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(v1.48f) Personal Reply-To: Aiko Huckauf X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1004537912.20010203140858@epost.de> To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re[2]: [pdftex] thumbpdf and page orientation In-reply-To: <3.0.1.16.20010128225858.4097f06e@localhost> References: <3.0.1.16.20010128225858.4097f06e@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 14:08:58 +0100 Sunday, January 28, 2001, 10:58:58 PM, Heiko Oberdiek wrote: > thumbpdf 2.8 supports landscape pages. Well, in the meantime I have upgraded my system and use thumbpdf 2.8. Unfortunately, the problem with the landscape-pages remained: The pdf-file produced with pdfTeX 14d is all right (portrait pages have portrait orientation, and landscape pages have landscape orientation - with Acrobat Reader 4.05), but after running thumpdf _all_ pages that follow the first landscape page are rotated, no matter if I use \begin{landscape} \begin{figure}[hptb] \thispagestyle{plain} \centering \includegraphics*[viewport=36 35 559 376,height=0.927\textwidth] {Pics/Spectrometer_1.pdf} \caption{Setup of Spectrometer 1} \label{Pic:Spektrometer_1} \end{figure} \end{landscape} \clearpage \newpage or \landscape \begin{figure}[hptb] \thispagestyle{plain} \centering \includegraphics*[viewport=36 35 559 376,height=0.927\textwidth] {Pics/Spectrometer_1.pdf} \caption{Setup of Spectrometer 1} \label{Pic:Spektrometer_1} \end{figure} \endlandscape What am I doing wrong? Is it possible that the problem is due to my Ghostscript settings? Aiko Huckauf _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 4-Feb-2001 8:12:14-GMT,6570;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA25681 for ; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 01:12:08 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 374892AE95; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 09:12:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from c008.sfo.cp.net (c008-h017.c008.sfo.cp.net [209.228.14.206]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f148Bcm27275 for ; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 09:11:38 +0100 Received: (cpmta 18695 invoked from network); 4 Feb 2001 00:11:33 -0800 Received: from ip93.las-vegas20.nv.pub-ip.psi.net (HELO computer) (38.29.215.93) by smtp.surfree.com (209.228.14.206) with SMTP; 4 Feb 2001 00:11:33 -0800 X-Sent: 4 Feb 2001 08:11:33 GMT Message-ID: <00ae01c08e82$c376a840$5dd71d26@computer> From: "Troy Kessler" To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00AB_01C08E3F.B403B6C0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Subject: [pdftex] Fw: TEX Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 00:16:22 -0800 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00AB_01C08E3F.B403B6C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Troy Kessler" To: Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2001 11:38 PM Subject: Fw: TEX > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Troy Kessler" > Newsgroups: sci.math > Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2001 11:33 PM > Subject: TEX > > > > Can you help me modify this file with \markright to have all page numbers > on > > the right? I would be infinitely grateful!! Thank you. > > > > > ------=_NextPart_000_00AB_01C08E3F.B403B6C0 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="p2ams.tex" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="p2ams.tex" %Sample file: article.tex %Typeset with AMSLaTeX format file %Preamble %\baselinestretch: \renewcommand{\baselinestretch}{2.0}=20 %Style section %\usepackage{amsmath} %\documentstyle{amsmath} \documentstyle[12pt]{amsart} %\documentstyle[amscd,amssymb,verbatim]{amsart} \pagestyle{myheadings} \markright{} \renewcommand{\baselinestretch}{2.0} \setlength{\oddsidemargin}{1.6cm} \setlength{\evensidemargin}{1.6cm} \setlength{\textwidth}{15cm} \setlength{\topmargin}{-.63cm} \setlength{\textheight}{22.5cm} \setlength{\headheight}{0cm} \setlength{\headsep}{.63cm} \setlength{\topskip}{0cm} \setlength{\footskip}{0cm} \begin{document} \begin{center} CHAPTER 2 \\ Computational Results \\ \end{center} In this chapter we will discuss the computations needed to prove Theorem = 2. Theorem 2 stated that the conjecture of Myerson and Sander is true for = all $m \leq 100$. The algorithm is essentially the algorithm they used to = prove the conjecture for $m \leq 8$ in their paper. I emailed Gerald Myerson and = he sent his results for $m \leq 16$ before I started my computations. I wanted = to check that my new algorithm produced the same results as theirs and it = did for all of his data. The only difference between our algorithms is that = he uses the function \begin{eqnarray} g(x)=3D[x]-\sum_{i=3D1}^{\infty}{[\frac{x}{b_i}]}-1 \end{eqnarray} to build a tree and I used \begin{eqnarray} \frac{ R_{k}(n_{j}) }{B_{k}} < \frac{ R_{k+1}(n_{j}) = }{B_{k+1}}. \end{eqnarray} \\ My algorithm was originally implemented in Mathematica 4.0 on the NSCEE = super computer at UNLV. I used Mathematica to prove the conjecture for all $m \leq 37$ and the proof for $m=3D37$ required 29 hours of computer = time. The rest of the computations were done with C++ and GNU'S MP. Ashley = Hatch and John Kilburg helped me translate the Mathematica code into C++. We = used GNU'S MP for the large integers that we needed to work with. The C++ = version of the algorithm was substantially faster and the computations were = finished on a computer in the Physics department in a couple of days. We will now = discuss my algorithm in detail. \\ \begin{center} Details Of Algorithm For Prime m less than 1806\\ \end{center} Set $Bmax=3D8$ \\ Calculate B[1] ... B[Bmax] using $B[k+1]=3DB[k]^2+B[k]$\\ Set L=3DEmpty List\\ \begin{eqnarray} \text{Define} \quad M[a,b]=3D\begin{cases} 1& \text{if b} \lvert \text{a and} \\ \frac{Mod[a,b]}{b}& \text{otherwise} \end{cases} \end{eqnarray} Build First Row \\ For k=3D1 to m \\ If $M[k,2] \geq M[k,6] \geq M[k,42]$\\ add k to list L\\ Increment k\\ Set len=3DLength of list L\\ Set sumlen=3Dlen\\ While $len>0$ Build Next Roe\\ For i=3D1 to len \\ Look at each list element and calculate children\\ q=3DFirst Element of L\\ Set $n=3Dm*q$\\ Set $t \equiv n \pmod{B_{Bmax}}$\\ Remove q from list L\\ For k=3D0 to m-1\\ For j=3D1 to Bmax\\ Set $r[k,j]=3DM[t+k,B_{j}]$\\ Increment j \\ Increment k \\ M=3DEmpty List \\ Put all children of q in List M\\ For k=3D0 to m-1\\ =20 If \begin{eqnarray} r[k,1] \geq r[k,2] \geq r[k,3] \geq ... \geq r[k,Bmax] \end{eqnarray} Add n+k to list M\\ Set $L=3DM\bigcup L$\\ Increment k\\ L is the new row of tree\\ Display L\\ Set len=3DLength of L\\ Set sumlen=3Dsumlen+len\\ End While Loop\\ Display number of nodes in tree which is m*sumlen+m-1\\ \begin{center} Comments on Alogrithm\\ \end{center} When calculating (4) in the C++ version the computer will check each = pair of inequalities from left to right and if one of these is false it will stop calculation and will conclude that the value of the whole statement is false. This is an important savings in execution time because the = computer only calculates the needed values of r[k,j] to decide the value of (4). \end{document} ------=_NextPart_000_00AB_01C08E3F.B403B6C0-- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 4-Feb-2001 21:48:56-GMT,3238;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA08096 for ; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 14:48:55 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id C0A302AEA4; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 20:21:00 +0100 (CET) Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f14JKBm23299 for ; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 20:20:12 +0100 Received: from remote142-148.home.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.142.148] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 14PUhf-0005Z7-00; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 20:20:03 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.20010204193026.508f9e02@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) To: Aiko Huckauf , pdftex@tug.org From: Heiko Oberdiek Subject: Re: [pdftex] thumbpdf and page orientation In-Reply-To: <1004537912.20010203140858@epost.de> References: <3.0.1.16.20010128225858.4097f06e@localhost> <3.0.1.16.20010128225858.4097f06e@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2001 19:30:26 +0100 At 14:08 03.02.2001 +0100, Aiko Huckauf wrote: >Sunday, January 28, 2001, 10:58:58 PM, Heiko Oberdiek wrote: > >> thumbpdf 2.8 supports landscape pages. >Well, in the meantime I have upgraded my system and use thumbpdf 2.8. >Unfortunately, the problem with the landscape-pages remained: >The pdf-file produced with pdfTeX 14d is all right (portrait pages >have portrait orientation, and landscape pages have landscape >orientation - with Acrobat Reader 4.05), but after running thumpdf >_all_ pages that follow the first landscape page are rotated, no >matter if I use > >\begin{landscape} Without a complete test file I cannot see, what code you are using to set the pdf page attribute /Rotate. There was a discussion about this topic in de.comp.text.tex last month: thumbpdf uses \global assignment of \pdfpageattr, and removes the entry after use, so that the next pages are not affected. As a result I have written packages pdflscape.sty, that uses this technique for the page attribute /Rotate and extends the landscape environment. I have put it today into the incoming directory of CTAN. Yours sincerely Heiko PS: Please, use "Re:" instead of "Re[2]:" in order to avoid Subject lines such as this: Re: Re[2]: Antwort: Re: AW: Re[3]: foo bar _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 6-Feb-2001 8:09:06-GMT,2555;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA29789 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 01:09:05 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 07B682AEB4; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 09:09:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from ccduck.ke.sanet.sk (ccduck.ke.sanet.sk [193.87.100.12]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f1688Fm00672 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 09:08:16 +0100 Received: from Klesc (km1i.fei.tuke.sk [147.232.5.37]) by ccduck.ke.sanet.sk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA20433 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 09:08:02 +0100 (MET ) Message-ID: <000801c0905f$d806efc0$2505e893@tuke.sk> From: =?iso-8859-2?B?SuFuIEJ1uWE=?= To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01C0901C.B230CAC0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Subject: [pdftex] subscribe pdftex Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 09:10:48 -0800 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C0901C.B230CAC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable subscribe pdftex ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C0901C.B230CAC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 
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------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C0901C.B230CAC0-- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 7-Feb-2001 0:58:01-GMT,2892;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA26388 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 17:58:00 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id E9D5E2AEB1; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 01:58:00 +0100 (CET) Received: from mailout04.sul.t-online.com (mailout04.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.18]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f170v3m05409 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 01:57:03 +0100 Received: from fwd00.sul.t-online.com by mailout04.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 14QIuo-0003mx-04; Wed, 07 Feb 2001 01:56:58 +0100 Received: from persephone.null (320008814328-0001@[217.2.235.251]) by fwd00.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 14QIuj-1lLxrMC; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 01:56:53 +0100 Received: by persephone.null (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E73A21348F; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 01:57:01 +0100 (CET) To: pdftex@tug.org Message-ID: <20010207015701.A673@persephone.null> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i From: reyerd@t-online.de (Christoph Dreyer) X-Sender: 320008814328-0001@t-dialin.net Subject: [pdftex] size of glyphs in postscript fonts Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 01:57:01 +0100 Hi! When I switch from Computer Modern to another font, like Times, the size of the glyphs changes too. This means that although I want the text to be typeset at 11pt, the result looks like it was typeset at 12pt: The linebreaks are at different positions and there are fewer words on a line. Is this the correct behaviour? Shouldn't fonts at the same size give, at least approximately, the same output? Is it possible to scale the fonts to their correct size? I've seen that the tfm-file has a parameter design-size. Is this the right place for manipulation? And what is the correct size for a font? The pfm-files have fields called points and pointsize. But these are always set to 10 and 240 respectively. Or should I use an em for scaling? When using one postscript font, the leading was too small. Does this have anything to do with the pointsize? Thanks for your answers. I know, it's a little bit offtopic. Christoph _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 7-Feb-2001 10:23:13-GMT,3309;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA08298 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 03:23:10 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 4B0B72AE9E; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 11:23:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from wisbech.cl.cam.ac.uk (mta1.cl.cam.ac.uk [128.232.0.15]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f17AMGm07615 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 11:22:18 +0100 Received: from pallas.cl.cam.ac.uk ([128.232.8.88] helo=cl.cam.ac.uk ident=rf) by wisbech.cl.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.092 #1) id 14QRjn-0004m6-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Wed, 07 Feb 2001 10:22:11 +0000 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] size of glyphs in postscript fonts In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 07 Feb 2001 01:57:01 +0100." <20010207015701.A673@persephone.null> From: Robin Fairbairns Message-Id: Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 10:22:10 +0000 > When I switch from Computer Modern to another font, like Times, the size > of the glyphs changes too. This means that although I want the text to > be typeset at 11pt, the result looks like it was typeset at 12pt: The > linebreaks are at different positions and there are fewer words on a > line. > > Is this the correct behaviour? yes (with some interpretation of what you say). > Shouldn't fonts at the same size give, at > least approximately, the same output? different designers have different subjective measures -- read knuth and you'll see him warning that "10pt" is a label rather than a measure. the best you can hope is that fonts of the same family fit together. try fitting two wildly different families together, and you see chaos (cf. the psnfss times.sty defaults of times, helvetica and courier ... fonts that couldn't fit together with the most earnest relationship counselling). this is why there's so much talk of compatibility ("what font do i use for \tt when i'm using font for \rm?"). > Is it possible to scale the fonts to their correct size? I've seen that > the tfm-file has a parameter design-size. Is this the right place for > manipulation? definitely not. put a scale factor into your map file (and name the result something different): the pslatex bundle does this to bludgeon ptm/phv/pcr together, and you can use it as an example. but in the last analysis, if you want to use times, you must surely have some reason: if you don't like the way it looks (as apparently you don't) why are you bothering in the first place? robin _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 7-Feb-2001 12:32:02-GMT,4369;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA10753 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 05:32:00 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 390122AEA0; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 13:32:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from cod.mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca (cod.mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca [142.176.61.253]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f17CVGm08191 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 13:31:16 +0100 Received: id IAA09361; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 08:30:59 -0400 Received: by gateway id <0G8E00M6T01JHZ@bionet.bio.dfo.ca> for pdftex@tug.org; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 08:29:43 -0400 (AST) Received: by gateway id <1NW4TDK0>; Wed, 07 Feb 2001 08:29:42 -0400 Content-return: allowed From: "White, George" Subject: RE: [pdftex] size of glyphs in postscript fonts To: "'reyerd@t-online.de '" Cc: "'pdftex@tug.org'" Message-id: <25DB90CB4178D4118AB300D0B72E7D030FC033@MSGMARBIO05> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 08:29:43 -0400 Your question is appropriate to the pdftex list: a) because pdftex encourages you to use the base fonts (e.g., Times-Roman) when you need compact pdf files, and b) because some tricks that you can use with dvips to help match font sizes don't seem to have a pdftex equivalent. There is no enforceable requirement that different font families have similar real sizes at a given TeX "size". Design differences mean that even if you choose similar real sizes the line breaks will be different. Many publication layouts are designed for Times-Roman. Because Computer Modern tends to need more space for a given "real" size, such layouts tend to have too few words on a line and to produce lots of poor line breaks when you use CM fonts scaled to match the size of Times-Roman was used to develop the layout. There have been some articles in TUGboat on scaling PostScript fonts to give a better match to other TeX fonts. If you are using LaTeX, some packages do take pains to choose a series of sizes (e.g., for subscripts, typewrite and sans fonts.,tc.) that better approximates the sizes of CM fonts. In some cases it may be easier to accept the sizes chosen by your macro package and adjust the page layout so that you end up with the desired final size by scaling the page using a "dvips -y.." option. I'm not aware of any corresponding trick when you are using pdftex to generate pdf files directly. -----Original Message----- From: reyerd@t-online.de To: pdftex@tug.org Sent: 2/6/01 8:57 PM Subject: [pdftex] size of glyphs in postscript fonts Hi! When I switch from Computer Modern to another font, like Times, the size of the glyphs changes too. This means that although I want the text to be typeset at 11pt, the result looks like it was typeset at 12pt: The linebreaks are at different positions and there are fewer words on a line. Is this the correct behaviour? Shouldn't fonts at the same size give, at least approximately, the same output? Is it possible to scale the fonts to their correct size? I've seen that the tfm-file has a parameter design-size. Is this the right place for manipulation? And what is the correct size for a font? The pfm-files have fields called points and pointsize. But these are always set to 10 and 240 respectively. Or should I use an em for scaling? When using one postscript font, the leading was too small. Does this have anything to do with the pointsize? Thanks for your answers. I know, it's a little bit offtopic. Christoph _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 8-Feb-2001 20:19:06-GMT,3743;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA29588 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 13:19:05 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id B6A052AE8E; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 21:19:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from pasture.ecn.purdue.edu (pasture.ecn.purdue.edu [128.46.161.85]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f18KJ0m17727 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 21:19:00 +0100 Received: from purdue.edu (hersh.nserl.purdue.edu [128.210.150.223]) by pasture.ecn.purdue.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3moyman) with ESMTP id PAA06205 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 15:18:52 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3A82FF84.6A5120FD@purdue.edu> From: Frederic Darboux Organization: NSERL X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [pdftex] pdf concatenation: wizard needed... Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 15:20:20 -0500 Hello. I am trying to concatenate 2 pdf files using the texexec program with the option --pdfarrange. According to the log file (see below), TeX needs more memory. Any hint about how to do this? Thanks Frederic This is pdfeTeX, Version 3.14159-14f-released-20000525-2.1 (Web2c 7.3.2x) (format=cont-en 2000.10.22) 8 FEB 2001 13:51 entering extended mode **&cont-en texexec (./texexec.tex{c:/Tex/TeX/texmf-var/pdftex/config/pdftex.cfg} ConTeXt ver: 2000.5.11 fmt: 2000.10.22 int: english mes: english language : language en is active system : cont-new loaded (c:/Tex/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-new.tex systems : beware: some patches loaded from cont-new.tex! ! TeX capacity exceeded, sorry [number of strings=100]. \endcsname { \@@oidiepte \docopyvalue ...name \@EA {\csname #2#3\endcsname }\fi \next1 #1,->\docopyparameter {#1} \doprocesscommaitem ...eg , \c!straal ,\c!hoek ,\c!diepte , \c!kader ,\c!kaderkleur , ... ... l.302 [\??ks] If you really absolutely need more capacity, you can ask a wizard to enlarge me. Here is how much of TeX's memory you used: 100 strings out of 100 1409 string characters out of 5000 294390 words of memory out of 1500001 21280 multiletter control sequences out of 10000+13480 7 words of font info for 0 fonts, out of 200000 for 1000 14 hyphenation exceptions out of 1000 19i,0n,29p,136b,10s stack positions out of 300i,100n,500p,200000b,4000s No pages of output. ....................................................... National Soil Erosion Research Laboratory 1196 SOIL Building Purdue University West Lafayette, Indiana, 47907-1196 USA Ph: +1 (765) 494-6645 Fax: +1 (765) 494-5948 Email: Web: _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 8-Feb-2001 22:30:02-GMT,2803;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA03737 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 15:30:01 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id D5D672AE8F; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 23:30:00 +0100 (CET) Received: from mailout03.sul.t-online.com (mailout03.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.81]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f18MTUm18376 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 23:29:30 +0100 Received: from fwd00.sul.t-online.com by mailout03.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 14QzYx-00006N-0A; Thu, 08 Feb 2001 23:29:15 +0100 Received: from persephone.null (320008814328-0001@[217.2.234.23]) by fwd00.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 14QzYq-1ffA6yC; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 23:29:08 +0100 Received: by persephone.null (Postfix, from userid 1000) id CB51F13494; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 18:16:12 +0100 (CET) To: "White, George" Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] size of glyphs in postscript fonts Message-ID: <20010208181612.D476@persephone.null> References: <25DB90CB4178D4118AB300D0B72E7D030FC033@MSGMARBIO05> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <25DB90CB4178D4118AB300D0B72E7D030FC033@MSGMARBIO05>; from WhiteG@mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca on Wed, Feb 07, 2001 at 08:29:43AM -0400 From: reyerd@t-online.de (Christoph Dreyer) X-Sender: 320008814328-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 18:16:12 +0100 Hi George! White, George schrieb am Mittwoch, dem 07.02.2001: > There is no enforceable requirement that different font families > have similar real sizes at a given TeX "size". I did not know this. > In some cases it may be easier to accept the sizes chosen by your > macro package and adjust the page layout so that you end up with the > desired final size by scaling the page using a "dvips -y.." option. > I'm not aware of any corresponding trick when you are using pdftex to > generate pdf files directly. Context allows to specify a wider range of sizes. Thanks. Christoph _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 9-Feb-2001 8:52:04-GMT,2981;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA17818 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 01:52:02 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 1F42A2AE90; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 09:52:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp7.xs4all.nl (smtp7.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.133]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f198p7m20497 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 09:51:07 +0100 Received: from server-1.pragma-ade.nl (s340-isdn2789.dial.xs4all.nl [194.109.190.229]) by smtp7.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA21175; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 09:51:00 +0100 (CET) Received: from laptop-1 (laptop-1.pragma-ade.nl [200.1.1.25]) by server-1.pragma-ade.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA15086; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 09:30:44 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20010209092656.014b6ae0@server-1> X-Sender: hagen@server-1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) To: Frederic Darboux From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: [pdftex] pdf concatenation: wizard needed... Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: <3A82FF84.6A5120FD@purdue.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 09:26:56 +0100 At 03:20 PM 2/8/01 -0500, Frederic Darboux wrote: >Here is how much of TeX's memory you used: > 100 strings out of 100 that's nearly nothing > 1409 string characters out of 5000 > 294390 words of memory out of 1500001 > 21280 multiletter control sequences out of 10000+13480 you need a bigger hash > 7 words of font info for 0 fonts, out of 200000 for 1000 > 14 hyphenation exceptions out of 1000 > 19i,0n,29p,136b,10s stack positions out of 300i,100n,500p,200000b,4000s you can change the values in texmf.cnf which you can locate with "kpsewhich texmf.cnf"; after that you need to regenerate the format (texexec --make or fmtutil). Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma@wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 9-Feb-2001 10:10:03-GMT,2254;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA19281 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 03:10:01 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id A17102AE8B; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 11:10:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.cs.uta.fi (mail.cs.uta.fi [153.1.55.25]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f19A95m20926 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 11:09:05 +0100 Received: from cs.uta.fi (IDENT:av@siwenna.cs.uta.fi [153.1.55.52]) by mail.cs.uta.fi (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id MAA09646 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 12:08:57 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <3A83C1B9.3040709@cs.uta.fi> From: Arto Viitanen Organization: University of Tampere, Dept. of CS User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux 2.2.17-21mdk i686; en-US; m18) Gecko/20001107 Netscape6/6.0 X-Accept-Language: fi, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [pdftex] floatingfigure and pdflatex Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 12:08:57 +0200 How does one use the floatingfigure environment (page 150 on The LaTeX Companion) in pdflatex? When I tried pdfximage with it, either the picture vanished or I got some wierd error messages. I tried it with JPEG -picture, so that might be the problem. -- Arto V. Viitanen av@cs.uta.fi University of Tampere, Department of Computer and Information Sciences Tampere, Finland http://www.cs.uta.fi/~av/ _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 9-Feb-2001 15:10:04-GMT,2638;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA24639 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 08:10:03 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 81CB62AE8D; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 16:10:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from merlin.ilstu.edu (merlin.ilstu.edu [138.87.4.8]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f19F9Zm22595 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 16:09:42 +0100 Received: from drrobin (drrobin.cob.ilstu.edu [138.87.204.154]) by merlin.ilstu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA17045 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 09:09:25 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <200102091509.JAA17045@merlin.ilstu.edu> X-Sender: drrobin@mail.ilstu.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 To: pdftex@tug.org From: Don Robinson Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: [pdftex] eepic and pdflatex Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 09:05:26 -0600 I teach statistics and use pdf files for various purposes. When drawing distributions (normal, t, etc.) I use diagonal lines (e.g. \line(1,1){length}) to shade appropriate parts of the distribution. For lines shorter than allowed by LaTeX's picture environment, my practice is to use bezier curves to fake straight lines (e.g., \qbezier(x1,y1)(x1,y1)(x2,y2)). The appearance in printed output is satisfactory, but in pdf files you can see the difference if the diagram is enlarged even slightly. A few months ago I started using the eepic package and replaced all straight-line bezier curves. The printed output looks better but when I try to create a pdf file I get the usual complaint: Non-pdf special ignored. Is there any way I can use the eepic package and create pdf files that show these lines? I am using the current TeXLive 5.0. Don R. Robinson Professor of Quantitative Methods Illinois State University drrobin@ilstu.edu _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 9-Feb-2001 15:37:01-GMT,2799;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA25306 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 08:36:59 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 8DC242AE90; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 16:37:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from ecnwall.ecn.nl (ecnwall.ecn.nl [130.112.1.86]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f19Fajm22787 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 16:36:45 +0100 Received: from ecntex.ecn.nl (ecntex.ecn.nl [130.112.1.26]) by ecnwall.ecn.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DE3B32D for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 16:36:39 +0100 (MET) Received: by ecntex.ecn.nl with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <1LSCN7LV>; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 16:36:39 +0100 Message-ID: <92D6AAE888CED411A16A00508BB0B827A23F70@ecntex.ecn.nl> From: "Dok, D. van" To: "PDFTeX Mailing List (E-mail)" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Subject: [pdftex] Using Truetype font symbols from TS1? Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 16:36:36 +0100 Hi, I'm using \documentclass[a4paper,dutch]{article} \usepackage[mycoding]{inputenc} \usepackage{times} \normalfont \usepackage[T1]{fontenc} \usepackage{textcomp} \usepackage{europs} \usepackage{babel} to get all the windows characters in the windows codepage to work. ``mycoding'' is a slight modification of ansinew to include the euro symbol in position 0x80. This works like a marvel for postscript fonts. I should like to do the same thing for TrueType fonts, and on http://www.radamir.com/tex/ttf-tex.htm is a complete description of how to install a TrueType font with pdfTeX. All is well except for the encoding vector: there is an encoding vector T1-WGL4.enc that comes with ttf2tfm, which maps a truetype font to the T1 encoding. For the iso-8859-1 set this is plenty, but the symbols in 0x80--0xBF are unavailable. How do I create a tfm file in the TS1 encoding from my TrueType font? Is there a TS1-WGL4.enc file somewhere? regards, Dennis van Dok _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 9-Feb-2001 15:44:10-GMT,7762;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA25518 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 08:44:09 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 749D52AE8F; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 16:44:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from interzone.ucc.ie (interzone.ucc.ie [143.239.1.134]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f19Fh1m22869 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 16:43:01 +0100 Received: from swift.ucc.ie (swift.ucc.ie [143.239.211.48]) by interzone.ucc.ie (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA19624; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 15:43:12 GMT Received: (from dongen@localhost) by swift.ucc.ie (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id PAA12148; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 15:42:24 GMT From: Marc van Dongen To: Don Robinson Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] eepic and pdflatex Message-ID: <20010209154223.D9794@cs.ucc.ie> References: <200102091509.JAA17045@merlin.ilstu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="gKMricLos+KVdGMg" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200102091509.JAA17045@merlin.ilstu.edu>; from drrobin@ilstu.edu on Fri, Feb 09, 2001 at 09:05:26AM -0600 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 15:42:24 +0000 --gKMricLos+KVdGMg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Don Robinson (drrobin@ilstu.edu) wrote: : I teach statistics and use pdf files for various purposes. When drawing : distributions (normal, t, etc.) I use diagonal lines (e.g. : \line(1,1){length}) to shade appropriate parts of the distribution. For : lines shorter than allowed by LaTeX's picture environment, my practice is : to use bezier curves to fake straight lines (e.g., : \qbezier(x1,y1)(x1,y1)(x2,y2)). The appearance in printed output is : satisfactory, but in pdf files you can see the difference if the diagram is : enlarged even slightly. A few months ago I started using the eepic package : and replaced all straight-line bezier curves. The printed output looks : better but when I try to create a pdf file I get the usual complaint: : Non-pdf special ignored. : : Is there any way I can use the eepic package and create pdf files that show : these lines? I am using the current TeXLive 5.0. This is not an answer to your question, but have you ever considered using metapost? If not, I would suggest you have a look at http://www.tug.org/metapost.html It is *ideal* for drawing graphs and text. I have attached some quickly hacked metapost code to shade a curve (it's a brute hack). I have also attached the resulting output. You can convert the eps to pdf, but pdflatex also lets you input metapost generated eps directly. Regards, Marc van Dongen -- Marc van Dongen, CS Dept | phone: +353 21 4903578 University College Cork, NUIC | Fax: +353 21 4903113 College Road, Cork, Ireland | Email: dongen@cs.ucc.ie --gKMricLos+KVdGMg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="shade.0" %!PS-Adobe-3.0 EPSF-3.0 %%BoundingBox: -1 -1 143 143 %%Creator: MetaPost %%CreationDate: 2000.09.26:1853 %%Pages: 1 %%DocumentFonts: eurm10 eurm7 /eurm10 /eurm10 def /eurm7 /eurm7 def /fshow {exch findfont exch scalefont setfont show}bind def %%EndProlog %%Page: 1 1 %%HiResBoundingBox: -0.99626 -0.99626 142.72852 142.72852 0 1.99252 dtransform truncate idtransform setlinewidth pop [] 0 setdash 1 setlinecap 1 setlinejoin 10 setmiterlimit newpath 0 0 moveto 9.70753 0.21846 19.30159 2.1372 28.34645 5.66911 curveto 38.67326 9.7016 48.05318 15.73734 56.6929 22.67647 curveto 67.13878 31.06625 76.46675 40.73157 85.03935 51.02466 curveto 95.45514 63.53087 104.73114 76.92775 113.3858 90.70934 curveto 123.74034 107.19777 133.20276 124.22989 141.73225 141.73225 curveto stroke 0 0.69739 dtransform truncate idtransform setlinewidth pop newpath 0 0 moveto 0 0 rlineto stroke newpath 4.72441 0 moveto 4.72441 0.24998 lineto stroke 0.69739 0 dtransform exch truncate exch idtransform pop setlinewidth newpath 9.44882 0 moveto 9.44882 0.75 lineto stroke newpath 14.17323 0 moveto 14.17323 1.56248 lineto stroke newpath 18.89763 0 moveto 18.89763 2.625 lineto stroke newpath 23.62204 0 moveto 23.62204 3.99998 lineto stroke newpath 28.34645 0 moveto 28.34645 5.68748 lineto stroke newpath 33.07086 0 moveto 33.07086 7.6875 lineto stroke newpath 37.79527 0 moveto 37.79527 9.99998 lineto stroke newpath 42.51968 0 moveto 42.51968 12.68752 lineto stroke newpath 47.24408 0 moveto 47.24408 15.68752 lineto stroke newpath 51.96849 0 moveto 51.96849 19.06252 lineto stroke newpath 56.6929 0 moveto 56.6929 22.6875 lineto stroke newpath 61.41731 0 moveto 61.41731 26.625 lineto stroke newpath 66.14172 0 moveto 66.14172 30.87502 lineto stroke newpath 70.86613 0 moveto 70.86613 35.4375 lineto stroke newpath 75.59053 0 moveto 75.59053 40.3125 lineto stroke newpath 80.31494 0 moveto 80.31494 45.50002 lineto stroke newpath 85.03935 0 moveto 85.03935 51 lineto stroke newpath 89.76376 0 moveto 89.76376 56.87498 lineto stroke newpath 94.48817 0 moveto 94.48817 63 lineto stroke newpath 99.21259 0 moveto 99.21259 69.43748 lineto stroke newpath 103.93698 0 moveto 103.93698 76.25002 lineto stroke newpath 108.66139 0 moveto 108.66139 83.31248 lineto stroke newpath 113.3858 0 moveto 113.3858 90.68752 lineto stroke newpath 118.11021 0 moveto 118.11021 98.37502 lineto stroke newpath 122.83463 0 moveto 122.83463 106.3125 lineto stroke newpath 127.55904 0 moveto 127.55904 114.62498 lineto stroke newpath 132.28343 0 moveto 132.28343 123.24998 lineto stroke newpath 137.00784 0 moveto 137.00784 132.24998 lineto stroke newpath 141.73225 0 moveto 141.73225 141.75 lineto stroke 0 0.99626 dtransform truncate idtransform setlinewidth pop newpath 70.86613 70.86613 moveto 87.59438 54.13797 lineto stroke newpath 83.8988 55.66866 moveto 87.59438 54.13797 lineto 86.06363 57.83351 lineto closepath gsave fill grestore stroke 58.66354 72.96613 moveto (x) eurm10 9.96265 fshow 63.90504 76.58153 moveto (2) eurm7 6.97385 fshow showpage %%EOF --gKMricLos+KVdGMg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="shade.mp" verbatimtex \documentclass{article} \usepackage{euler} \begin{document} etex; defaultfont := "cmr12"; defaultscale := 12pt /fontsize defaultfont; input mp-tool; prologues := 2; input boxes; u = 5cm; def f( expr x ) = x*x enddef; def shade( expr curve, lwb, upb, lines ) = pickup pencircle scaled 0.7pt; for i = 0 upto lines - 1: draw ((lwb+i*(upb-lwb)/(lines-1), 0)-- (lwb+i*(upb-lwb)/(lines-1), infinity)) cutafter curve; endfor; enddef; beginfig(0); path curve; pair posn; points = 6; size = points - 1; curve = (0,u*f( 0 )) for i = 1 upto size: ..(u*i/size,u*f( i/size )) endfor; pickup pencircle scaled 2pt; draw curve; shade( curve, 0, u, 31 ); pickup pencircle scaled 1pt; posn = (0.5u,0.5u); drawarrow posn--(((0,u)--(u,0)) intersectionpoint curve); label.ulft( btex $x^2$ etex, posn ); endfig; end. --gKMricLos+KVdGMg-- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 9-Feb-2001 18:30:11-GMT,3406;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA00510 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 11:30:05 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id B61732AE8F; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 19:30:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de (zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.53]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f19ITum23684 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 19:29:56 +0100 Received: from zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de.kammer.uni-hannover.de (reinhard@zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.54]) by zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA17788; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 19:28:47 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de: Host reinhard@zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.54] claimed to be zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de.kammer.uni-hannover.de From: Reinhard Kotucha MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14980.14109.601584.253675@zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de> To: Don Robinson Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: [pdftex] eepic and pdflatex In-Reply-To: <200102091509.JAA17045@merlin.ilstu.edu> References: <200102091509.JAA17045@merlin.ilstu.edu> X-Mailer: VM 6.87 under Emacs 20.7.2 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 19:29:49 +0100 >>>>> "Don" == Don Robinson writes: > Is there any way I can use the eepic package and create pdf > files that show these lines? I am using the current TeXLive > 5.0. As Marc van Dongen said, the best way would be to use metapost. If you already have a lot of graphics done with eepic, you could use dvips and epstopdf: Put the graphics into a LaTeX file, one figure per page and disable page numbering. Process the file with latex, not pdflatex. Then run the dvi file through dvips -E -i -S1. The parameters are explained in dvips's manpage. You will get one eps file for each page with a tight bounding box. These files can be converted to pdf with epstopdf. You can then include the pdf files into your document as usual (using the grapicx package). Regards, Reinhard -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Reinhard Kotucha Phone: +49-511-751355 Berggartenstr. 9 D-30419 Hannover mailto:reinhard@kammer.uni-hannover.de ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Microsoft isn't the answer. Microsoft is the question, and the answer is NO. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 10-Feb-2001 0:35:02-GMT,3605;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA11081 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 17:35:01 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id D81D92AE8B; Sat, 10 Feb 2001 01:35:00 +0100 (CET) Received: from pasture.ecn.purdue.edu (pasture.ecn.purdue.edu [128.46.161.85]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f1A0Y5m25028 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2001 01:34:06 +0100 Received: from purdue.edu (hersh.nserl.purdue.edu [128.210.150.223]) by pasture.ecn.purdue.edu (8.11.2/moyman) with ESMTP id f1A0Xu704903; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 19:33:56 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3A848CC8.31D3E7BD@purdue.edu> From: Frederic Darboux Organization: NSERL X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Hans Hagen , pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] pdf concatenation: wizard needed... References: <3.0.6.32.20010209092656.014b6ae0@server-1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 19:35:20 -0500 Hello I found the texmf.cnf file and edited it, but there was no variable equal to 100 with "string" in its name. Any idea where this parameter can be found? BTW: I did not change any variable value after TexLive installation... Thanks Frederic Hans Hagen wrote: > > At 03:20 PM 2/8/01 -0500, Frederic Darboux wrote: > > >Here is how much of TeX's memory you used: > > 100 strings out of 100 > > that's nearly nothing > > > 1409 string characters out of 5000 > > 294390 words of memory out of 1500001 > > 21280 multiletter control sequences out of 10000+13480 > > you need a bigger hash > > > 7 words of font info for 0 fonts, out of 200000 for 1000 > > 14 hyphenation exceptions out of 1000 > > 19i,0n,29p,136b,10s stack positions out of 300i,100n,500p,200000b,4000s > > you can change the values in texmf.cnf which you can locate with "kpsewhich > texmf.cnf"; after that you need to regenerate the format (texexec --make or > fmtutil). > > Hans > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma@wxs.nl > Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands > tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > pdftex mailing list > pdftex@tug.org > http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex -- ....................................................... National Soil Erosion Research Laboratory 1196 SOIL Building Purdue University West Lafayette, Indiana, 47907-1196 USA Ph: +1 (765) 494-6645 Fax: +1 (765) 494-5948 Email: Web: _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 10-Feb-2001 2:41:09-GMT,2311;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA13872 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 19:41:03 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id B4A4E2AE8B; Sat, 10 Feb 2001 03:41:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from menyapa.cc.columbia.edu (menyapa.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.59.38]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f1A2eLm25459 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2001 03:40:21 +0100 Received: from oemcomputer.columbia.edu (dialup-1-20.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.42.29]) by menyapa.cc.columbia.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA05826; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 21:40:04 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.0.20010209213647.00acbd50@pop.columbia.edu> X-Sender: kl206@pop.columbia.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 To: Don Robinson , pdftex@tug.org From: Kenneth Leonard Subject: Re: [pdftex] eepic and pdflatex In-Reply-To: <200102091509.JAA17045@merlin.ilstu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 21:38:38 -0500 I don't know if it would work for your purposes but I use the package eepicemu.sty (eepic emulation) which doesn't produce beautiful graphs, but they are certainly adequate. It is compatible with pdflatex. ________________________________________________ Kenneth L Leonard Assistant Professor of Economics, Columbia University 1032 International Affairs Building Mail Code 3308 New York, NY 10027 (212) 854-4092 Fax (212) 854 8059 www.columbia.edu/~kl206 _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 10-Feb-2001 13:19:16-GMT,2247;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA25126 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2001 06:19:11 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 21B6A2AE8B; Sat, 10 Feb 2001 14:19:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f1ADIem27381 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2001 14:18:41 +0100 Received: from remote142-127.home.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.142.127] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 14RZv5-00012R-00; Sat, 10 Feb 2001 14:18:32 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.20010210124332.3c3fcbd0@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) To: Arto Viitanen , pdftex@tug.org From: Heiko Oberdiek Subject: Re: [pdftex] floatingfigure and pdflatex In-Reply-To: <3A83C1B9.3040709@cs.uta.fi> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 12:43:32 +0100 At 12:08 09.02.2001 +0200, Arto Viitanen wrote: >How does one use the floatingfigure environment (page >150 on The LaTeX Companion) in pdflatex? When I tried >pdfximage with it Not a good idea to use \pdfximage directly, if you are using LaTeX, the graphics package hides the internals and works with different pdfTeX versions, that implement different internal commands. Yours sincerely Heiko _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 12-Feb-2001 1:13:19-GMT,141583;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA03952 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2001 18:13:05 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 6BD4C2AE92; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 02:13:03 +0100 (CET) Received: from math.lbl.gov (math.lbl.gov [128.3.7.22]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f1C1CCm06964 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 02:12:13 +0100 Received: from yangtze (yangtze.lbl.gov [128.3.3.228]) by math.lbl.gov (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id f1C1Bwe02016 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2001 17:11:59 -0800 (PST) From: Jon Wilkening X-Sender: wilkenin@yangtze To: pdftex@tug.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-559023410-959030623-981940320=:4906" Subject: [pdftex] corrupted pdf image Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 17:12:00 -0800 (PST) This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. ---559023410-959030623-981940320=:4906 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello, I am having a problem with pdflatex (I have several pdf images that look nice when viewed with acroread but become corrupted when they are included in my latax document). I'm using the version included in the redhat 7.0 tetex distribution, pdfTeX (Web2C 7.3.1) 3.14159-0.13d kpathsea version 3.3.1 The images were converted to pdf with epstopdf, and seem to be OK. Is this a well known problem that has been fixed? I've attached an example, if not. 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(bioserver1.biology.usu.edu [129.123.16.2]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f1C4bEm07778 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 05:37:14 +0100 Received: from biology.usu.edu (bnr233.bnr.usu.edu [129.123.10.179]) by bioserver1.biology.usu.edu with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id 1PWV459H; Sun, 11 Feb 2001 21:37:03 -0700 Message-ID: <3A87687A.3FADB8A9@biology.usu.edu> From: "James W. Haefner" Organization: Utah State University X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-22 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jon Wilkening Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] corrupted pdf image References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 21:37:14 -0700 Jon Wilkening wrote: > > Hello, > I am having a problem with pdflatex (I have several pdf images > that look nice when viewed with acroread but become corrupted > when they are included in my latax document). I'm using the > version included in the redhat 7.0 tetex distribution, > > pdfTeX (Web2C 7.3.1) 3.14159-0.13d > kpathsea version 3.3.1 > As always, it is crucial to have uptodate versions: pdftex is at least to -0.14f don't forget the latest pdftex.def I just went through the RH7 installation and I can help if you need to know where to put things (believe me, it is not obvious from any documentation I've seen). Jim Haefner jhaefner@biology.usu.edu _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 12-Feb-2001 5:26:35-GMT,3437;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA08841 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2001 22:26:02 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 22CF72AE9D; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 06:26:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from e4e.oac.uci.edu (e4e.oac.uci.edu [128.200.222.10]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f1C5Pbm07977 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 06:25:38 +0100 Received: from uci.edu (IDENT:zender@dust.ps.uci.edu [128.200.14.25]) by e4e.oac.uci.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA02859; Sun, 11 Feb 2001 21:25:27 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3A8773BD.4060905@uci.edu> From: Charlie Zender Organization: University of California at Irvine User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-22smp i686; en-US; m18) Gecko/20010208 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.text.tex To: help-texinfo@gnu.org, PDFTeX Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [pdftex] Possible bug in pdftexinfo.tex Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 21:25:17 -0800 Hi, The latest GNU texinfo.tex file (\texinfoversion{2000-12-11.07}) from ftp.gnu.org works fine with a long TeXinfo file I have. The texinfo.tex file that accompanies recent pdftex distributions, however, appears to have some problems. Namely, the file texinfo.tex in pdftex distribution pdftex-20010126, which has a late 1999 datestamp \def\texinfoversion{1999-08-19.17} % updated for pdfTeX appears to not support some texinfo 4.0 features. I believe the feature that the pdf texinfo.tex is failing on is handling index entries which contain entries of the format @acronym{FOO} plain text. The index files (e.g., doc.cps) that texi2dvi generates from a *.texi file appear to cause texindex to barf when the pdftexinfo.tex file is used. Of course, I do not think that texi2dvi is calling pdftex, I think it is calling plain tex. But I, and others, I believe, have in front of $TEXMFDIR/tex in our $TEXINPUTS variable so that pdftexinfo.tex is used instead of texinfo.tex. In any case, it appears that blithely calling texi2dvi with $TEXMFDIR/pdftex first in one's path will result in failure on perfectly legal *.texi files. My guess is that pdftexinfo.tex is out of date. Or perhaps I am doing something wrong and if so would appreciate knowing what. I thought the idea was that pdftexinfo.tex should work fine when called by regular tex, but should do special extra features when called by pdftex. Thanks, Charlie -- Charlie Zender zender@uci.edu (949) 824-2987/FAX-3256, Department of Earth System Science, University of California, Irvine CA 92697-3100 _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 12-Feb-2001 6:41:03-GMT,2722;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA10270 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2001 23:41:02 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 4A0802AEA1; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 07:41:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.cs.uta.fi (mail.cs.uta.fi [153.1.55.25]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f1C6eAm08286 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 07:40:10 +0100 Received: from cs.uta.fi (IDENT:av@siwenna.cs.uta.fi [153.1.55.52]) by mail.cs.uta.fi (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id IAA26276; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 08:39:52 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <3A878537.8070604@cs.uta.fi> From: Arto Viitanen Organization: University of Tampere, Dept. of CS User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux 2.2.17-21mdk i686; en-US; m18) Gecko/20001107 Netscape6/6.0 X-Accept-Language: fi, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Heiko Oberdiek , pdftex Subject: Re: [pdftex] floatingfigure and pdflatex References: <3.0.1.16.20010210124332.3c3fcbd0@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 08:39:51 +0200 Heiko Oberdiek wrote: > At 12:08 09.02.2001 +0200, Arto Viitanen wrote: > >> How does one use the floatingfigure environment (page >> 150 on The LaTeX Companion) in pdflatex? When I tried >> pdfximage with it > > > Not a good idea to use \pdfximage directly, if you > are using LaTeX, the graphics package hides the > internals and works with different pdfTeX versions, > that implement different internal commands. > That is nice to know, but it does not solve my problem: the included (either using includegraphics on graphicx package or direclty using pdftex's primitives) vanishes when using floatingfigure. -- Arto V. Viitanen av@cs.uta.fi University of Tampere, Department of Computer and Information Sciences Tampere, Finland http://www.cs.uta.fi/~av/ _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 12-Feb-2001 7:41:01-GMT,3966;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA11715 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 00:40:59 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 4C2442AE95; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 08:41:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk (toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk [163.1.20.20]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f1C7eDm08532 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 08:40:13 +0100 Received: from localhost (ripley@localhost) by toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id HAA01032; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 07:40:01 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: toucan.stats: ripley owned process doing -bs From: Prof Brian Ripley X-X-Sender: To: Charlie Zender Cc: , PDFTeX Mailing List Subject: Re: [pdftex] Possible bug in pdftexinfo.tex In-Reply-To: <3A8773BD.4060905@uci.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 07:40:01 +0000 (GMT) On Sun, 11 Feb 2001, Charlie Zender wrote: > Hi, > > The latest GNU texinfo.tex file (\texinfoversion{2000-12-11.07}) > from ftp.gnu.org works fine with a long TeXinfo file I have. > The texinfo.tex file that accompanies recent pdftex distributions, > however, appears to have some problems. Namely, the file texinfo.tex > in pdftex distribution pdftex-20010126, which has a late 1999 datestamp > > \def\texinfoversion{1999-08-19.17} % updated for pdfTeX > > appears to not support some texinfo 4.0 features. I believe the feature > that the pdf texinfo.tex is failing on is handling index entries which > contain entries of the format > > @acronym{FOO} plain text. > > The index files (e.g., doc.cps) that texi2dvi generates from a *.texi > file appear to cause texindex to barf when the pdftexinfo.tex file is > used. Of course, I do not think that texi2dvi is calling pdftex, I > think it is calling plain tex. But I, and others, I believe, > have in front of $TEXMFDIR/tex in our $TEXINPUTS > variable so that pdftexinfo.tex is used instead of texinfo.tex. > In any case, it appears that blithely calling texi2dvi with > $TEXMFDIR/pdftex first in one's path will result in failure on > perfectly legal *.texi files. My guess is that pdftexinfo.tex > is out of date. Or perhaps I am doing something wrong and if so > would appreciate knowing what. I thought the idea was that > pdftexinfo.tex should work fine when called by regular tex, but > should do special extra features when called by pdftex. My belief is that you should just use the texinfo.tex from the texinfo 4.0 distribution (or later), and use texi2dvi --pdf. That works fine for me on Unix: it does not work on Windows but calling the components directly does. It is the concept of pdftexinfo.tex that is out of date, I believe. -- Brian D. Ripley, ripley@stats.ox.ac.uk Professor of Applied Statistics, http://www.stats.ox.ac.uk/~ripley/ University of Oxford, Tel: +44 1865 272861 (self) 1 South Parks Road, +44 1865 272860 (secr) Oxford OX1 3TG, UK Fax: +44 1865 272595 _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 12-Feb-2001 7:49:11-GMT,2232;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA11845 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 00:49:09 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 8A7BE2B544; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 08:49:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from is.elta.co.il (is.elta.co.il [199.203.121.2]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f1C7mkm08619 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 08:48:46 +0100 Received: from is (is [199.203.121.2]) by is.elta.co.il (8.9.3/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA13388; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 09:45:36 +0200 (IST) From: Eli Zaretskii X-Sender: eliz@is To: Prof Brian Ripley Cc: Charlie Zender , help-texinfo@gnu.org, PDFTeX Mailing List Subject: Re: [pdftex] Possible bug in pdftexinfo.tex In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 09:45:36 +0200 (IST) On Mon, 12 Feb 2001, Prof Brian Ripley wrote: > My belief is that you should just use the texinfo.tex from the texinfo 4.0 > distribution (or later), and use texi2dvi --pdf. That works fine for me > on Unix: it does not work on Windows but calling the components directly > does. Why doesn't "texi2dvi --pdf" work on Windows, and what Windows port of the related packages (Texinfo, TeX, and PDFTeX) do you have installed? _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 12-Feb-2001 8:29:00-GMT,2944;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA12536 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 01:28:58 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 2742E2AE93; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 09:29:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk (toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk [163.1.20.20]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f1C8S1m08827 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 09:28:01 +0100 Received: from toucan.stats (toucan.stats [163.1.20.20]) by toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id IAA01132; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 08:27:41 GMT Message-Id: <200102120827.IAA01132@toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk> From: Prof Brian Ripley Reply-To: Prof Brian Ripley Subject: Re: [pdftex] Possible bug in pdftexinfo.tex To: eliz@is.elta.co.il Cc: help-texinfo@gnu.org, pdftex@tug.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: 8Qlw9tRNYiv7ieRmIiYHWg== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.3.0 @(#)CDE Version 1.3.5 SunOS 5.7 sun4m sparc Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 08:27:40 +0000 (GMT) > Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 09:45:36 +0200 (IST) > From: Eli Zaretskii > > > On Mon, 12 Feb 2001, Prof Brian Ripley wrote: > > > My belief is that you should just use the texinfo.tex from the texinfo 4.0 > > distribution (or later), and use texi2dvi --pdf. That works fine for me > > on Unix: it does not work on Windows but calling the components directly > > does. > > Why doesn't "texi2dvi --pdf" work on Windows, and what Windows port of > the related packages (Texinfo, TeX, and PDFTeX) do you have installed? I am using fptex, plus texinfo I compiled from the sources when fptex's was incomplete. texi2dvi uses shell features that the sh I use (cygwin) barfs on, I think quoting issues. But the general issue is texi2dvi is an sh script. Windows does not supply sh. -- Brian D. Ripley, ripley@stats.ox.ac.uk Professor of Applied Statistics, http://www.stats.ox.ac.uk/~ripley/ University of Oxford, Tel: +44 1865 272861 (self) 1 South Parks Road, +44 1865 272860 (secr) Oxford OX1 3TG, UK Fax: +44 1865 272595 _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 12-Feb-2001 8:43:01-GMT,2225;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA12780 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 01:42:59 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 6A14E2AE95; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 09:43:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from is.elta.co.il (is.elta.co.il [199.203.121.2]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f1C8gYm08943 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 09:42:34 +0100 Received: from is (is [199.203.121.2]) by is.elta.co.il (8.9.3/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA13768; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 10:40:05 +0200 (IST) From: Eli Zaretskii X-Sender: eliz@is To: Prof Brian Ripley Cc: help-texinfo@gnu.org, pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] Possible bug in pdftexinfo.tex In-Reply-To: <200102120827.IAA01132@toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 10:40:05 +0200 (IST) On Mon, 12 Feb 2001, Prof Brian Ripley wrote: > texi2dvi uses shell features that the sh I use (cygwin) barfs on, > I think quoting issues. But the general issue is > > texi2dvi is an sh script. > Windows does not supply sh. "sh texi2dvi" works for me on Windows (and even on MS-DOS), with no quoting-related problems. Doesn't this work for you? Perhaps you need to upgrade your port of Bash. I'm asking because perhaps texi2dvi needs to be modified to work reliably on Windows . _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 12-Feb-2001 9:14:02-GMT,3120;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA13329 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 02:14:00 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 8A6802AE93; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 10:14:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp8.xs4all.nl (smtp8.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.134]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f1C9Dam09084 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 10:13:36 +0100 Received: from server-1.pragma-ade.nl (s340-modem3208.dial.xs4all.nl [194.109.172.136]) by smtp8.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA26812; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 10:13:26 +0100 (CET) Received: from laptop-1 (laptop-1.pragma-ade.nl [200.1.1.25]) by server-1.pragma-ade.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA25256; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 10:07:51 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20010211222514.01dd2d70@server-1> X-Sender: hagen@server-1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) To: Frederic Darboux From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: [pdftex] pdf concatenation: wizard needed... Cc: Hans Hagen , pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: <3A848CC8.31D3E7BD@purdue.edu> References: <3.0.6.32.20010209092656.014b6ae0@server-1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 22:25:14 +0100 At 07:35 PM 2/9/01 -0500, Frederic Darboux wrote: >Hello > >I found the texmf.cnf file and edited it, but there was no variable >equal to 100 with "string" in its name. >Any idea where this parameter can be found? >BTW: I did not change any variable value after TexLive installation... There has been an 'error' in one of the texlive versions, but the latest should be ok main_memory.context = 1100000 hash_extra.context = 40000 pool_size.context = 750000 string_vacancies.context = 45000 max_strings.context = 55000 pool_free.context = 47500 nest_size.context = 500 param_size.context = 1500 save_size.context = 5000 stack_size.context = 1500 obj_tab_size.context = 300000 or larger -) Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma@wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 12-Feb-2001 13:29:13-GMT,2725;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA17765 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 06:29:12 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 33B422AE8C; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 14:29:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from wisbech.cl.cam.ac.uk (mta1.cl.cam.ac.uk [128.232.0.15]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f1CDSpm10139 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 14:28:51 +0100 Received: from pallas.cl.cam.ac.uk ([128.232.8.88] helo=cl.cam.ac.uk ident=rf) by wisbech.cl.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.092 #1) id 14SJ23-0003Vy-00; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 13:28:43 +0000 To: Arto Viitanen Cc: pdftex Subject: Re: [pdftex] floatingfigure and pdflatex In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 12 Feb 2001 08:39:51 +0200." <3A878537.8070604@cs.uta.fi> From: Robin Fairbairns Message-Id: Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 13:28:42 +0000 > Heiko Oberdiek wrote: > > > At 12:08 09.02.2001 +0200, Arto Viitanen wrote: > > > >> How does one use the floatingfigure environment (page > >> 150 on The LaTeX Companion) in pdflatex? When I tried > >> pdfximage with it note that the latex companion is an _old_ book, and documents the state of things as it was in 1993, before latex 2e was actually released (aiui, the authors used a pre-release of latex 2e to develop the book). > That is nice to know, but it does not solve my problem: > the included (either using includegraphics on graphicx > package or direclty using pdftex's primitives) vanishes > when using floatingfigure. in particular, floatfig (which is what the companion talks about) has long since been superseded by the package floatflt. are you in fact using floatfig? -- if so, it may be worth updating. i've (just) moved floatfig to the obsolete/ tree on ctan. ctan file info/companion.ctan has long pointed you at floatflt as a replacement for floatfig _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 12-Feb-2001 14:17:00-GMT,2451;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA18660 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 07:16:59 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 164CD2AE8C; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 15:17:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.cs.uta.fi (hci.cs.uta.fi [153.1.55.25]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f1CEGKm10384 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 15:16:21 +0100 Received: from cs.uta.fi (IDENT:av@siwenna.cs.uta.fi [153.1.55.52]) by mail.cs.uta.fi (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id QAA02087; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 16:16:13 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <3A87F02C.2050306@cs.uta.fi> From: Arto Viitanen Organization: University of Tampere, Dept. of CS User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux 2.2.17-21mdk i686; en-US; m18) Gecko/20010131 Netscape6/6.01 X-Accept-Language: fi, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robin Fairbairns , pdftex Subject: Re: [pdftex] floatingfigure and pdflatex References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 16:16:12 +0200 Robin Fairbairns wrote: > i've (just) moved floatfig to the obsolete/ tree on ctan. ctan file > info/companion.ctan has long pointed you at floatflt as a replacement > for floatfig Yes, I am using the floatflt that comes with the teTeX. Still, I cannot get the JPEG picture to show, either with the graphicx package or directly using pdfximage. -- Arto V. Viitanen av@cs.uta.fi University of Tampere, Department of Computer and Information Sciences Tampere, Finland http://www.cs.uta.fi/~av/ _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 12-Feb-2001 14:52:00-GMT,2931;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA19351 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 07:51:59 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id B44632AE8B; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 15:52:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from mephi.ru (danko.mephi.ru [194.67.67.34]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f1CEpQm10566 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 15:51:26 +0100 Received: from htsc.UUCP (uucp@localhost) by mephi.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with UUCP id RAA13002 for pdftex@tug.org; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 17:40:45 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from htsc.mephi.ru!kuzn@htsc.mephi.ru) Received: by htsc.mephi.ru (dMail for Windows v1.2P, 23Jul96); Mon, 12 Feb 2001 17:49:49 +0300 To: pdftex@tug.org Organization: MEPhI Message-Id: From: kuzn@htsc.mephi.ru (Kuznetsov A,V.) X-Mailer: dMail [Demos Mail for Windows v1.2 Professional] Lines: 32 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [pdftex] pdftex & AcroReader Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 17:49:49 +0300 (MSK) Dear pdftex users, this problem has already been discussed several times in mail-list, but its solution has only partly been obtained. When one uses AcroReader as viewer under TeXing, he should close document before translation (Ctrl + W) and reopen it after translation (Ctrl + <-). It is helpful when TeX-editor does that. We have found that for Windows, the following codes should be sent to AacroReader to close and restore the last opened document: wm_Command ($0111) with wParam=$E102 //to close wm_Command ($0111) with wParam=$179D //to restore For example, to operate AcroReader from WinEdt, the following macros can be used. //to translate SendMessage("Acrobat Reader", $0111, $E102, 0); // This SendMessage produces "Close" command Run("LaTeXPDF.bat %N","%P"); //The last should be modified to run compilation in Your configuration End; //to restore the previous view Run("Acrord32.exe ""%P\%N.pdf"""); // We open document window SendMessage("Acrobat Reader",$0111,$179D,0); // These SendMessage produces "Go Back" command to AcroReader End; A.Kuznetsov and K.Klementev _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 12-Feb-2001 15:15:01-GMT,3866;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA19827 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 08:15:00 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id A4BD82AE8D; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 16:15:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from pasture.ecn.purdue.edu (pasture.ecn.purdue.edu [128.46.161.85]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f1CFESm10714 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 16:14:28 +0100 Received: from purdue.edu (hersh.nserl.purdue.edu [128.210.150.223]) by pasture.ecn.purdue.edu (8.11.2/moyman) with ESMTP id f1CFEH725519; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 10:14:17 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3A87FE14.D79785E@purdue.edu> From: Frederic Darboux Organization: NSERL X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Hans Hagen , pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] pdf concatenation: wizard needed... References: <3.0.6.32.20010209092656.014b6ae0@server-1> <3.0.6.32.20010211222514.01dd2d70@server-1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 10:15:32 -0500 Well, it looks like I have similar values : main_memory.context = 1500000 hash_extra.context = 25000 pool_size.context = 750000 string_vacancies.context = 45000 max_strings.context = 55000 pool_free.context = 47500 nest_size.context = 500 param_size.context = 1500 save_size.context = 5000 stack_size.context = 1500 obj_tab_size.context = 256000 and no trace of a "100 lines"... Miracle needed? Frederic Hans Hagen wrote: > > At 07:35 PM 2/9/01 -0500, Frederic Darboux wrote: > >Hello > > > >I found the texmf.cnf file and edited it, but there was no variable > >equal to 100 with "string" in its name. > >Any idea where this parameter can be found? > >BTW: I did not change any variable value after TexLive installation... > > There has been an 'error' in one of the texlive versions, but the latest > should be ok > main_memory.context = 1100000 > hash_extra.context = 40000 > pool_size.context = 750000 > string_vacancies.context = 45000 > max_strings.context = 55000 > pool_free.context = 47500 > nest_size.context = 500 > param_size.context = 1500 > save_size.context = 5000 > stack_size.context = 1500 > obj_tab_size.context = 300000 > > or larger -) > > Hans > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma@wxs.nl > Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands > tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > pdftex mailing list > pdftex@tug.org > http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex -- ....................................................... National Soil Erosion Research Laboratory 1196 SOIL Building Purdue University West Lafayette, Indiana, 47907-1196 USA Ph: +1 (765) 494-6645 Fax: +1 (765) 494-5948 Email: Web: _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 12-Feb-2001 15:29:05-GMT,1871;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA20137 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 08:28:59 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id EAE092AE8C; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 16:29:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from billohost.com (www.billohost.com [209.196.35.10]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f1CFSWm10839 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 16:28:32 +0100 Received: (from karl@localhost) by billohost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA26963; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 10:28:18 -0500 Message-Id: <200102121528.KAA26963@billohost.com> From: karl@freefriends.org To: ripley@stats.ox.ac.uk Cc: zender@uci.edu, help-texinfo@gnu.org, pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] Possible bug in pdftexinfo.tex Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 10:28:18 -0500 My belief is that you should just use the texinfo.tex from the texinfo 4.0 distribution (or later), Right. and use texi2dvi --pdf. Or run pdftex filename.texi (modulo macro expansion or other issues that texi2dvi can affect.) It is the concept of pdftexinfo.tex that is out of date, I believe. Right. _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 12-Feb-2001 15:37:04-GMT,2729;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA20329 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 08:37:03 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 569692AE93; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 16:37:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk (toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk [163.1.20.20]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f1CFaFm10917 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 16:36:15 +0100 Received: from toucan.stats (toucan.stats [163.1.20.20]) by toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id PAA06589; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 15:35:50 GMT Message-Id: <200102121535.PAA06589@toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk> From: Prof Brian Ripley Reply-To: Prof Brian Ripley Subject: Re: [pdftex] Possible bug in pdftexinfo.tex To: karl@freefriends.org Cc: zender@uci.edu, pdftex@tug.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: QWKFTMjGdCQAw3TrlSIM6w== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.3.0 @(#)CDE Version 1.3.5 SunOS 5.7 sun4m sparc Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 15:35:49 +0000 (GMT) > Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 10:28:18 -0500 > From: karl@freefriends.org > > My belief is that you should just use the texinfo.tex from the texinfo 4.0 > distribution (or later), > > Right. > > and use texi2dvi --pdf. > > Or run > pdftex filename.texi > (modulo macro expansion or other issues that texi2dvi can affect.) You'll need to run it more than once and call texindex on index files (and to work out which ones are relevant), if you have a moderately complicated .texi file. When one is used to texi2dvi, one does not even know what the `other issues' are.... -- Brian D. Ripley, ripley@stats.ox.ac.uk Professor of Applied Statistics, http://www.stats.ox.ac.uk/~ripley/ University of Oxford, Tel: +44 1865 272861 (self) 1 South Parks Road, +44 1865 272860 (secr) Oxford OX1 3TG, UK Fax: +44 1865 272595 _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 12-Feb-2001 16:05:59-GMT,3100;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA21128 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 09:05:57 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 39A2A2AE8B; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 17:06:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp8.xs4all.nl (smtp8.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.134]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f1CG5qm11123 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 17:05:52 +0100 Received: from server-1.pragma-ade.nl (s340-isdn2599.dial.xs4all.nl [194.109.190.39]) by smtp8.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA12084; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 17:05:43 +0100 (CET) Received: from laptop-1 (laptop-1.pragma-ade.nl [200.1.1.25]) by server-1.pragma-ade.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA26880; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 16:57:21 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20010212165330.0094d560@server-1> X-Sender: hagen@server-1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) To: Frederic Darboux From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: [pdftex] pdf concatenation: wizard needed... Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: <3A87FE14.D79785E@purdue.edu> References: <3.0.6.32.20010209092656.014b6ae0@server-1> <3.0.6.32.20010211222514.01dd2d70@server-1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 16:53:30 +0100 At 10:15 AM 2/12/01 -0500, Frederic Darboux wrote: >Well, it looks like I have similar values : > >main_memory.context = 1500000 >hash_extra.context = 25000 >pool_size.context = 750000 >string_vacancies.context = 45000 >max_strings.context = 55000 >pool_free.context = 47500 >nest_size.context = 500 >param_size.context = 1500 >save_size.context = 5000 >stack_size.context = 1500 >obj_tab_size.context = 256000 > >and no trace of a "100 lines"... i assume that you have the latest context archive texexec --make --alone en nl will give you cont-*.efmt you have to move those to the web2c path, which you can locate with "kpsewhich plain.fmt" or alike Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma@wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 12-Feb-2001 16:44:58-GMT,3443;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA22527 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 09:44:57 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 0D9DA2AE8F; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 17:45:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from dsmail.hmi.de (dsmail.hmi.de [134.30.15.24]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f1CGiVm11371 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 17:44:31 +0100 Received: from hmi.de (pgu@pieck1.hmi.de [134.30.11.89]) by dsmail.hmi.de (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f1CGiNH04079; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 17:44:23 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <3A8812E7.C2213B40@hmi.de> From: Tim Brunne X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.18pre21 i686) X-Accept-Language: de, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] pdftex & AcroReader References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 17:44:23 +0100 Hi, does anybody have an idea how this may be accomplished on Unix/Linux systems, where acroread is run from the command line? I do not know enough about the Linux system (or even the X-Window System). But there should be some appropriate commands/signals. Possibly the X-Window Server may be activated to send those key sequences to the acrobat reader? I usually run a makefile in order to compile (La)TeX sources. So, a proper sequence of commands would be helpful. Yours, Tim P.S.: BTW, why are the latest postings of this mailing list not archived at tug.org? "Kuznetsov A,V." wrote: > > Dear pdftex users, > this problem has already been discussed several times in > mail-list, but its solution has only partly been obtained. > > When one uses AcroReader as viewer under TeXing, he should close > document before translation (Ctrl + W) and reopen it after > translation (Ctrl + <-). It is helpful when TeX-editor does that. > > We have found that for Windows, the following codes should be sent > to AacroReader to close and restore the last opened document: > wm_Command ($0111) with wParam=$E102 //to close > wm_Command ($0111) with wParam=$179D //to restore > > For example, to operate AcroReader from WinEdt, the following macros > can be used. > > //to translate > SendMessage("Acrobat Reader", $0111, $E102, 0); > // This SendMessage produces "Close" command > Run("LaTeXPDF.bat %N","%P"); > //The last should be modified to run compilation in Your configuration > End; > > //to restore the previous view > Run("Acrord32.exe ""%P\%N.pdf"""); > // We open document window > SendMessage("Acrobat Reader",$0111,$179D,0); > // These SendMessage produces "Go Back" command to AcroReader > End; _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 12-Feb-2001 18:01:12-GMT,2597;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA24922 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 11:01:10 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id AF6712AE8D; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 18:54:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from wizard.ucc.ie (wizard.ucc.ie [143.239.211.92]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f1CHrIm11786 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 18:53:18 +0100 Received: from cs.ucc.ie (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wizard.ucc.ie (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA29133; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 17:53:15 GMT Message-ID: <3A88230B.71FBB115@cs.ucc.ie> From: Frank Boehme X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.10 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tim Brunne Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] pdftex & AcroReader References: <3A8812E7.C2213B40@hmi.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 17:53:15 +0000 Tim Brunne wrote: > > Hi, > > does anybody have an idea how this may be > accomplished on Unix/Linux systems, where acroread > is run from the command line? I don't know really. Once I played around and I can now tell you that the following does *not* work: sending OS signals to the acroread process. Why didn't they write acroread so that one of the following gives the desired effect killall HUP acroread killall USR1 acroread killall USR2 acroread ??? The only solution would be to use software that records and plays X-events. This could be used to fake the necessary keystrokes. Frank -- Dr Frank Boehme | Email: f.boehme@cs.ucc.ie National University of Ireland, Cork | phone: +353-21-4903163 Dept of Computer Science | fax: +353-21-4903113 Cork, Ireland | _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 13-Feb-2001 14:01:04-GMT,3816;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA23881 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 07:01:03 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id D85302AE8D; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 15:01:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from mephi.ru (danko.mephi.ru [194.67.67.34]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f1DE0qm15965 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 15:00:53 +0100 Received: from htsc.UUCP (uucp@localhost) by mephi.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with UUCP id OAA20321 for pdftex@tug.org; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 14:42:13 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from htsc.mephi.ru!kuzn@htsc.mephi.ru) Received: by htsc.mephi.ru (dMail for Windows v1.2P, 23Jul96); Tue, 13 Feb 2001 14:54:57 +0300 To: pdftex@tug.org Organization: MEPhI Message-Id: From: kuzn@htsc.mephi.ru (Kuznetsov A,V.) X-Mailer: dMail [Demos Mail for Windows v1.2 Professional] Lines: 47 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [pdftex] font strategy in pdftex Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 14:54:57 +0300 (MSK) Dear pdftex developers, I found excessive font embedding in documents produced by pdftex. I use 3 ways (dvips+distiller, dvipdfm, pdftex) to generate pdf from the following file and font map. %%% FILE %%%% \def\test{abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz\\} \begin{document} \font\true=ptmr8r17 at 10 pt\selectfont\true\test \font\true=ptmr8r at 10 pt\selectfont\true\test \font\true=ptmr8r9 at 10 pt\selectfont\true\test \font\true=ptmr8r8 at 10 pt\selectfont\true\test \font\true=ptmr8r7 at 10 pt\selectfont\true\test \font\true=ptmr8r6 at 10 pt\selectfont\true\test \font\true=ptmr8r5 at 10 pt\selectfont\true\test \end{document} %%% This is the map for pdftex, maps for dvips and dvipdfm are similar %%% ptmr8r Times-Roman <8r.enc ptmr8r17 Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA25109 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 07:59:58 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 771242AE8E; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 16:00:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from nova.kettering.edu (nova.kettering.edu [192.138.137.2]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f1DExFm16267 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 15:59:15 +0100 Received: from gaspra.kettering.edu (IDENT:root@gaspra.kettering.edu [198.110.4.97]) by nova.kettering.edu (8.10.1/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f1DEx5F06230 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 09:59:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (IDENT:mwicks@localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gaspra.kettering.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA26804 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 09:59:10 -0500 From: "Mark A. Wicks" To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] font strategy in pdftex In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 09:59:10 -0500 (EST) On Tue, 13 Feb 2001, Kuznetsov A,V. wrote: > Dear pdftex developers, > I found excessive font embedding in documents > produced by pdftex. > [snip] > ptmr8r Times-Roman <8r.enc > ptmr8r17 ptmr8r9 ptmr8r8 ptmr8r7 As seen, only the standard font is used. > > The results are dramatically different. > Neither dvipdfm nor dvips+distiller embed standard resource > but pdftex embeds it six times. Why? Only Tz operator should > change horizontal scaling when an extended font is used [snip] > What is the reason for the excessive font embedding in pdftex? I am not a pdftex developer, but I think I understand the problem pretty well. You are correct that Tz can change the horizontal scaling to implement ExtendFont, but that doesn't solve the more general problem. What about SlantFont, for example? If I recall correctly, PDF, unlike PostScript, does not allow the font matrix to be modified on the fly. The slant of the font is determined from the font matrix contained in the embedded font. I believe that the only way to change the font matrix is to re-embed a new copy of the font using different font matrix for each instance, and that's apparently what pdftex is doing. Dvipdfm and Distiller handle this by modifying the graphics state rather than the text state. Having implemented this in dvipdfm, I know that this is very difficult to get right (I'll explain the issues to anybody who wants to know), and it produces some unnatural looking PDF output streams. However, it does produce the right result and allows the font to be embedded only once. > Moreover, such a font strategy leads to incorrect result. > Printer (or viewer) font will be used for unextended font > while creator's font is embedded for extended fonts. As it was Can't you explicitly embed the font in the unextended case? e.g., ptmr8r _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 13-Feb-2001 16:07:00-GMT,4821;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA26779 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 09:06:59 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 51A072AE8F; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 17:07:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f1DG6Km16685 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 17:06:20 +0100 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA12414; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 17:06:08 +0100 (MET) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA02439; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 17:05:49 +0100 (MET) From: Han The Thanh Message-Id: <200102131605.RAA02439@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Subject: Re: [pdftex] font strategy in pdftex In-Reply-To: from "Kuznetsov A,V." at "Feb 13, 1 02:54:57 pm" To: kuzn@htsc.mephi.ru (Kuznetsov A, V.) Cc: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 17:05:49 +0100 (MET) > I found excessive font embedding in documents > produced by pdftex. > > I use 3 ways (dvips+distiller, dvipdfm, pdftex) to generate pdf > from the following file and font map. > %%% FILE %%%% > \def\test{abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz\\} > \begin{document} > \font\true=ptmr8r17 at 10 pt\selectfont\true\test > \font\true=ptmr8r at 10 pt\selectfont\true\test > \font\true=ptmr8r9 at 10 pt\selectfont\true\test > \font\true=ptmr8r8 at 10 pt\selectfont\true\test > \font\true=ptmr8r7 at 10 pt\selectfont\true\test > \font\true=ptmr8r6 at 10 pt\selectfont\true\test > \font\true=ptmr8r5 at 10 pt\selectfont\true\test > \end{document} > %%% This is the map for pdftex, maps for dvips and dvipdfm are similar %%% > ptmr8r Times-Roman <8r.enc > ptmr8r17 ptmr8r9 ptmr8r8 ptmr8r7 ptmr8r6 ptmr8r5 %%%%%%%%%%%%%% > As seen, only the standard font is used. > > The results are dramatically different. > Neither dvipdfm nor dvips+distiller embed standard resource > but pdftex embeds it six times. Why? Only Tz operator should > change horizontal scaling when an extended font is used > (see 'PDF reference' sec.ed. 5.2.). > > Excessive font embedding increases file size, for example, > 1.987 kB for dvips+distiller, > 3.990 kB for dvipdfm and > 51.791 kB (!) for pdftex. > Moreover, such a font strategy leads to incorrect result. > Printer (or viewer) font will be used for unextended font > while creator's font is embedded for extended fonts. As it was > recently discussed in mail-list, these fonts can be different. > > What is the reason for the excessive font embedding in pdftex? in the early days of pdftex, I used to change the graphic state matrix to emulate FontExtend and FontSlant, so it could be used for truetype fonts as well. Afterward, when experimenting with hz-opt, I found it too problematic to do it this way. So I switched to changing the FontMatrix of Type1 font instead. This causes the output larger and avoids extending/slanting truetype fonts, but also makes the implementation cleaner and easier to extend, especially when playing with the hz-opt. Concerning use of builtin fonts, one can always embed the 14 base fonts by URW++ if he/she wishes. The current implementaion however doesn't check if two tfm share a single font file. It could have been improved, but I don't consider it worthwhile. It happens rarely, and having the file a little bit larger doesn't seem to hurt much. Regards, Thanh _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 13-Feb-2001 18:00:08-GMT,2537;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA00401 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 11:00:02 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id ADA942AE8C; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 19:00:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from dust.ps.uci.edu (dust.ps.uci.edu [128.200.14.25]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f1DHxum17227 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 18:59:56 +0100 Received: (from zender@localhost) by dust.ps.uci.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f1DHxYx25314; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 09:59:34 -0800 Message-Id: <200102131759.f1DHxYx25314@dust.ps.uci.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: dust.ps.uci.edu: zender set sender to zender@uci.edu using -f From: Charlie Zender To: PDFTeX Mailing List Reply-To: Charlie Zender Subject: [pdftex] RE: pdftex & AcroReader Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 09:59:34 -0800 Hi, > this problem has already been discussed several times in > mail-list, but its solution has only partly been obtained. > When one uses AcroReader as viewer under TeXing, he should close > document before translation (Ctrl + W) and reopen it after > translation (Ctrl + <-). It is helpful when TeX-editor does that. This does not work for me on Linux with acroread 4.0: Ctl+w does close the document, but Ctl+leftarrow does not reopen it (after translation or not) I assume by Ctl+ <- you mean control-leftarrow, but I also tried control-lessthan, control-lessthan-dash, control-backspace, control-tab and none of these reopened the document. Please clarify if you meant something else or if I am doing something wrong. Thanks, Charlie -- Charlie Zender zender@uci.edu (949) 824-2987/FAX-3256, Department of Earth System Science, University of California, Irvine CA 92697-3100 _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 13-Feb-2001 18:11:05-GMT,2738;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA00737 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 11:11:04 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 92B842AE91; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 19:11:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from idacrd.ccr-p.ida.org (idacrd.ccr-p.ida.org [206.181.22.66]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f1DIA5m17337 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 19:10:07 +0100 Received: from idacrd.ccr-p.ida.org (root@localhost) by idacrd.ccr-p.ida.org with ESMTP id NAA02426 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 13:09:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from idaccr.org (runner.princeton.idaccr.org [10.0.0.2]) by idacrd.ccr-p.ida.org with ESMTP id NAA02420 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 13:09:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from linus.princeton.idaccr.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by idaccr.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA09501; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 13:09:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from linus (IDENT:gold@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by linus.princeton.idaccr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA01010; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 13:09:45 -0500 Message-Id: <200102131809.NAA01010@linus.princeton.idaccr.org> To: Charlie Zender Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] RE: pdftex & AcroReader In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 13 Feb 2001 09:59:34 PST." <200102131759.f1DHxYx25314@dust.ps.uci.edu> From: David Goldschmidt Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 13:09:45 -0500 >>>>> "Charlie" == Charlie Zender writes: >> When one uses AcroReader as viewer under TeXing, he should close >> document before translation (Ctrl + W) and reopen it after translation >> (Ctrl + <-). It is helpful when TeX-editor does that. Charlie> This does not work for me on Linux with acroread 4.0: Charlie> Ctl+w does close the document, but Ctl+leftarrow does not reopen Charlie> it (after translation or not) Works for me on a standard PC running RH 6.2. David Goldschmidt _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 13-Feb-2001 21:45:59-GMT,2666;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA07402 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 14:45:58 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 3916A2AE8C; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 22:46:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.bremen.pop.de (mars.hamburg.pop.de [195.222.210.104]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f1DLjXm18259 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 22:45:33 +0100 Received: from uucp by mail.bremen.pop.de with local-rmail (Exim 2.02 #2) id 14SnMV-0004Zo-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 22:51:51 +0100 Received: (from uartcom@localhost) by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id WAA11825 for tug.org!pdftex; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 22:43:05 +0100 (MET) >Received: by artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de (Smail3.2 #1) id m14SnDQ-004wwSC; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 22:42:28 +0100 (MET) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= To: PDF-TeX mailing list Subject: Re: [pdftex] /pdfinfo {/Producer (foo)} not working Message-ID: <20010213224228.B5462@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mail-Followup-To: PDF-TeX mailing list References: <20010103140743.A652@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010103140743.A652@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de>; from ms@artcom-gmbh.de on Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 02:07:43PM +0100 Organization: ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Strasse 8, D-28359 Bremen X-Disclaimer: The views expressed are my own and not necessarily that of my employers. Received: from artcom8 by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 22:43 MET Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 22:42:28 +0100 On 2001-01-03 14:07:43 +0100, Martin Schröder wrote: > /pdfinfo is ignored. Am I doing something wrong? Well? Best regards Martin -- http://www.tm.oneiros.de/calendar/2001/ _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 13-Feb-2001 22:11:03-GMT,2962;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA08195 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 15:11:01 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 6CF4D2AE8D; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 23:11:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de (zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.53]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f1DMAMm18426 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 23:10:22 +0100 Received: from zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de.kammer.uni-hannover.de (reinhard@zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.54]) by zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA28237; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 23:09:06 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de: Host reinhard@zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.54] claimed to be zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de.kammer.uni-hannover.de From: Reinhard Kotucha MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14985.45253.353964.280217@zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de> To: Charlie Zender Cc: PDFTeX Mailing List Subject: [pdftex] RE: pdftex & AcroReader In-Reply-To: <200102131759.f1DHxYx25314@dust.ps.uci.edu> References: <200102131759.f1DHxYx25314@dust.ps.uci.edu> X-Mailer: VM 6.87 under Emacs 20.7.2 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 23:10:13 +0100 >>>>> "Charlie" == Charlie Zender writes: > Ctl+w does close the document, but Ctl+leftarrow does not reopen > it (after translation or not) It doesn't work for me with Ctl-CursorLeft, but it works if I use the cursor key in the numeric keypad. Maybe that depends on the window manager. Regards, Reinhard -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Reinhard Kotucha Phone: +49-511-751355 Berggartenstr. 9 D-30419 Hannover mailto:reinhard@kammer.uni-hannover.de ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Microsoft isn't the answer. Microsoft is the question, and the answer is NO. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 14-Feb-2001 2:27:14-GMT,2362;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA15181 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 19:27:09 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 18B422AE8C; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 03:27:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from ferret.slip.net (www6.sntccaidc.firstworld.net [216.127.92.134]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f1E2QDm19363 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 03:26:13 +0100 Received: from dialup-216-7-176-169.sirius.net ([216.7.176.169] helo=rsi) by ferret.slip.net with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 14Srdq-0005Ix-00; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 18:26:03 -0800 Received: from jll by rsi with local (Exim 3.13 #2) id 14Srdo-0002p9-00; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 18:26:00 -0800 From: John Lawless To: Frank Boehme , Tim Brunne Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] pdftex & AcroReader Message-ID: <20010213182600.A10855@redwoodscientific.com> References: <3A8812E7.C2213B40@hmi.de> <3A88230B.71FBB115@cs.ucc.ie> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre3i In-Reply-To: <3A88230B.71FBB115@cs.ucc.ie> Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 18:26:00 -0800 On Mon, Feb 12, 2001 at 05:53:15PM +0000, Frank Boehme wrote: > Tim Brunne wrote: > > does anybody have an idea how this may be accomplished on Unix/Linux > > systems, where acroread is run from the command line? One solution is not to use acroread. Ghostview has a "-watch" option to automatically update the screen display. It also responds to SIGHUP. See man gv. John _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 14-Feb-2001 2:27:14-GMT,2362;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA15181 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 19:27:09 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 18B422AE8C; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 03:27:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from ferret.slip.net (www6.sntccaidc.firstworld.net [216.127.92.134]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f1E2QDm19363 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 03:26:13 +0100 Received: from dialup-216-7-176-169.sirius.net ([216.7.176.169] helo=rsi) by ferret.slip.net with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 14Srdq-0005Ix-00; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 18:26:03 -0800 Received: from jll by rsi with local (Exim 3.13 #2) id 14Srdo-0002p9-00; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 18:26:00 -0800 From: John Lawless To: Frank Boehme , Tim Brunne Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] pdftex & AcroReader Message-ID: <20010213182600.A10855@redwoodscientific.com> References: <3A8812E7.C2213B40@hmi.de> <3A88230B.71FBB115@cs.ucc.ie> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre3i In-Reply-To: <3A88230B.71FBB115@cs.ucc.ie> Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 18:26:00 -0800 On Mon, Feb 12, 2001 at 05:53:15PM +0000, Frank Boehme wrote: > Tim Brunne wrote: > > does anybody have an idea how this may be accomplished on Unix/Linux > > systems, where acroread is run from the command line? One solution is not to use acroread. Ghostview has a "-watch" option to automatically update the screen display. It also responds to SIGHUP. See man gv. John _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 14-Feb-2001 8:12:59-GMT,2722;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA22570 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 01:12:58 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 6CCAE2AE8C; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 09:13:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from id080.wkap.nl (id080.wkap.nl [195.169.64.28]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f1E8CSm20568 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 09:12:28 +0100 Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON by wkap.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #37506) id <01K03FN96T2O95NN10@wkap.nl> for pdftex@tug.org; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 09:12:10 +0100 (MET) Received: from wkap.nl ([194.171.67.81]) by wkap.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #43155) with ESMTP id <01K03FN8OXUY9AORCG@wkap.nl> for pdftex@tug.org; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 09:12:09 +0100 (MET) From: S2P development Subject: Re: [pdftex] pdftex & AcroReader Cc: pdftex@tug.org Message-id: <3A8A3CB5.39DAD003@wkap.nl> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14-5.0 i686) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en References: <3A8812E7.C2213B40@hmi.de> <3A88230B.71FBB115@cs.ucc.ie> <20010213182600.A10855@redwoodscientific.com> Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 09:07:17 +0100 John Lawless wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 12, 2001 at 05:53:15PM +0000, Frank Boehme wrote: > > Tim Brunne wrote: > > > does anybody have an idea how this may be accomplished on Unix/Linux > > > systems, where acroread is run from the command line? > > One solution is not to use acroread. Ghostview has a "-watch" > option to automatically update the screen display. It also responds to > SIGHUP. See man gv. Or you can use the netscape plugin. It doesn't listen to HUP, but: netscape -remote 'openFile()' reopens the file (back to page 1), and standard netscape reload reallly reloads the document. Not perfect, but a lot better than acroread standalone behaviour. Greetings. Taco _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 14-Feb-2001 9:40:02-GMT,2429;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA24067 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 02:39:57 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 7B44B2AE8B; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 10:40:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp-relay.noc.dsvr.net (smtp-relay.noc.dsvr.net [212.69.192.4]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f1E9dbm20935 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 10:39:38 +0100 Received: from [212.69.192.215] (helo=svr2.design-web.co.uk) by smtp-relay.noc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14SyPI-0001oO-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 09:39:28 +0000 Received: from daltons.net (mail.radioscape.com [193.122.23.66]) by svr2.design-web.co.uk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f1E9dRP24588 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 09:39:27 GMT Message-ID: <3A8A52A0.53F67538@daltons.net> From: Barney Dalton X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en-gb] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.org References: <3A89A57E.A1F7AC14@daltons.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [pdftex] Re: how do bounding boxes and pdf files work? Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 09:40:48 +0000 Hi, I have used epstopdf to convert loads of graphics files to pdf to include in pdflatex, and up till now have had no problem. However I now have a problem eps file that looks fine in ghostview, and looks ok as a pdf in acroread as well. However when I use it in a pdflatex document the bounding box is wrong, and I get lots of whitespace round the image. Is it possible to manually edit the bounding box in a pdf file somehow? thanks barney _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 14-Feb-2001 10:16:59-GMT,5233;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA24753 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 03:16:58 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 8EF732AE90; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 11:17:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from mephi.ru (danko.mephi.ru [194.67.67.34]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f1EAGqm21120 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 11:16:53 +0100 Received: from htsc.UUCP (uucp@localhost) by mephi.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with UUCP id NAA28110 for pdftex@tug.org; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 13:05:51 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from htsc.mephi.ru!kuzn@htsc.mephi.ru) Received: by htsc.mephi.ru (dMail for Windows v1.2P, 23Jul96); Wed, 14 Feb 2001 13:16:05 +0300 To: pdftex@tug.org Organization: MEPhI Message-Id: From: kuzn@htsc.mephi.ru (Kuznetsov A,V.) X-Mailer: dMail [Demos Mail for Windows v1.2 Professional] Lines: 63 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [pdftex] Re: font strategy in pdftex Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 13:16:05 +0300 (MSK) The discussed problem must be made more exact as follows. To reduce pdf-document size, one uses 14 standard fonts which can be scaled to any size. However at big and small sizes scaled fonts look bad. More correct transformation should consist of scaling and extending of small/big fonts. My example represents Times-Roman fonts with set of extensions used in cmr fonts. However, when correct transformation is used, font strategy became very important (see comments below). Mark A. Wikcs wrote > I am not a pdftex developer, but I think I understand the problem > pretty well. You are correct that Tz can change the horizontal scaling to > implement ExtendFont, but that doesn't solve the more general problem. > What about SlantFont, for example? If I recall correctly, PDF, unlike > PostScript, does not allow the font matrix to be modified on the fly. > The slant of the font is determined from the font matrix contained in the > embedded font. I believe that the only way to change the font matrix is to > re-embed a new copy of the font using different font matrix for each > instance, and that's apparently what pdftex is doing. Yes, extended and slanted fonts are different cases in pdf, therefore slanted font should be embedded. But when one adds to my example similar set of slanted fonts with different extensions for different sizes, 13 fonts will be embedded. Whereas only a single slanted font is really needed. If one adds Helvetica in the same manner, 26 fonts will be embedded, but only two of them are needed. When one uses virtual font with Latin part from standard fonts and, for example, Cyrillic part from nonstandard fonts, 52 fonts will be embedded and only 6 are needed...... Number of fonts proliferates very quickly. Mark A. Wikcs wrote > Dvipdfm and Distiller handle this by modifying the graphics state > rather than the text state. Having implemented this in dvipdfm, I know > that this is very difficult to get right (I'll explain the issues to > anybody who wants to know), and it produces some unnatural looking PDF > output streams. However, it does produce the right result and allows the > font to be embedded only once. So a way towards the correct font strategy exists. Han The Thanh wrote > in the early days of pdftex, I used to change the graphic state matrix to > emulate FontExtend and FontSlant, so it could be used for truetype fonts as > well. Afterward, when experimenting with hz-opt, I found it too > problematic to do it this way. So I switched to changing the FontMatrix of > Type1 font instead. This causes the output larger and avoids > extending/slanting truetype fonts, but also makes the implementation > cleaner and easier to extend, especially when playing with the hz-opt. I think, the main problem related to Tz-operator usage is that 'the text state parameters are initialized to their default values at the beginning of each page'(PDF Ref. 5.2). So one should reinstall T_h parameter at any page. It seems difficult to use correctly Tz-operator when text is not broken up into pages but content of any page is known after TeX translation finishes. Is it possible to embed fonts and to optimize text-related operators after TeX'ing? Pdftex is the excellent program. I think that future is in pdfTeX'ing. Therefore it will be fine if the font strategy will be improved. A.Kuznetsov _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 14-Feb-2001 15:31:02-GMT,3050;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA00840 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 08:31:00 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id CD3872AE8B; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 16:31:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from bioserver1.biology.usu.edu (bioserver1.biology.usu.edu [129.123.16.2]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f1EFU3m22383 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 16:30:03 +0100 Received: from biology.usu.edu (bnr233.bnr.usu.edu [129.123.10.179]) by bioserver1.biology.usu.edu with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id 1PWV405W; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 08:29:53 -0700 Message-ID: <3A8AA480.3BB219FB@biology.usu.edu> From: "James W. Haefner" Organization: Utah State University X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-22 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] Re: how do bounding boxes and pdf files work? References: <3A89A57E.A1F7AC14@daltons.net> <3A8A52A0.53F67538@daltons.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 08:30:08 -0700 you don't say how you generated the file. If it possibly came from another application by "printing to a PS file" (eg, via MS Word), then you will get the full 8x11" page including margins as the bounding box. If so, in the app, set the page margins to 0" and have the app scale the fig to the page. Jim Haefner Barney Dalton wrote: > > Hi, > I have used epstopdf to convert loads of graphics files to pdf to > include in pdflatex, and up till now have had no problem. However I now > have a problem eps file that looks fine in ghostview, and looks ok as a > pdf in acroread as well. However when I use it in a pdflatex document > the bounding box is wrong, and I get lots of whitespace round the image. > > Is it possible to manually edit the bounding box in a pdf file somehow? > > thanks > barney > _______________________________________________ > pdftex mailing list > pdftex@tug.org > http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex -- James W. Haefner Department of Biology Email: jhaefner@biology.usu.edu Utah State University Voice: 435-797-3553 Logan, UT 84322-5305 Fax: 435-797-1575 _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 14-Feb-2001 18:11:01-GMT,2829;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA06100 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 11:10:59 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 3365E2AE8F; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 19:11:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f1EIAPm23149 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 19:10:25 +0100 Received: from remote142-176.home.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.142.176] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 14T6Nb-0001HS-00; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 19:10:15 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.20010214184753.33d72ef8@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) To: Martin =?iso-8859-1?Q?Schr=F6der?= , PDF-TeX mailing list From: Heiko Oberdiek Subject: Re: [pdftex] /pdfinfo {/Producer (foo)} not working In-Reply-To: <20010213224228.B5462@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> References: <20010103140743.A652@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <20010103140743.A652@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.daimi.au.dk id f1EIAPm23149 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 18:47:53 +0100 At 22:42 13.02.2001 +0100, Martin Schröder wrote: >On 2001-01-03 14:07:43 +0100, Martin Schröder wrote: >> /pdfinfo is ignored. Am I doing something wrong? > >Well? It seems that the pdfinfo part is introduced _after_ the default entry of pdfTeX, so that the resulting pdf file will contain \pdfinfo{/Producer(foo)/Creator(bar)} ==> /Producer (pdfTeX-0.14g) /Producer(foo)/Creator(bar) /Creator (TeX) AR seems to use the first entry, so that "foo" is hided. Workaround: Postprocess the file and replace the slash of the first /Producer entry with a percent character: %Producer (pdfTeX-0.14g) /Producer(...) Yours sincerely Heiko _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 14-Feb-2001 21:53:02-GMT,2433;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA12398 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 14:52:57 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 556162AE8C; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 22:53:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from troi.cc.rochester.edu (troi.cc.rochester.edu [128.151.224.20]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f1ELqcm24030 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 22:52:41 +0100 Received: from landsburg.com (landsburg.econ.rochester.edu [128.151.210.63]) by troi.cc.rochester.edu (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f1ELqNk09700; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 16:52:23 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3A8AFE1A.13F50F98@landsburg.com> From: "Steven E. Landsburg" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [pdftex] simple graphics question Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 16:52:26 -0500 I am writing plain TeX (*not* LaTeX) and want to be able to produce both .dvi and .pdf files from the same source. I have no problem doing this as long as there are no graphics involved. Now I'm trying to make the graphics work. What I've done: My document contains the lines \input eplain \input epsf \input graphicx \includegraphics[bb=100 100 200 200]{bigjug.jpg} What happens: pdftex gets to the \includegraphics line and says "non-PDF special ignored", then creates a .pdf file that fails to include the picture. I'm sure there's something very basic that I'm missing here. Can someone tell me what it is? Steven E. Landsburg steven@landsburg.com _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 14-Feb-2001 22:59:59-GMT,2767;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA14228 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 15:59:58 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 841BD2AE8B; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 00:00:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail3.ox.ac.uk [129.67.1.180]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f1EMx6m24346 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 23:59:06 +0100 Received: from heraldgate2.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.50] helo=frontend2.herald.ox.ac.uk ident=exim) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 14TAsq-0003AF-00; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 22:58:48 +0000 Received: from max19.public.ox.ac.uk ([192.76.27.19] helo=spqr2.oucs.ox.ac.uk ident=rahtz) by frontend2.herald.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 14TAsq-0003hj-00; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 22:58:49 +0000 X-Mailer: emacs 20.6.1 (via feedmail 8 Q); VM 6.86 under Emacs 20.6.1 From: "Sebastian Rahtz" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14987.3917.78129.963777@spqr2.oucs.ox.ac.uk> To: steven@landsburg.com Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] simple graphics question In-Reply-To: <3A8AFE1A.13F50F98@landsburg.com> References: <3A8AFE1A.13F50F98@landsburg.com> Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 23:05:49 +0000 Steven E. Landsburg writes: > \input epsf > \input graphicx gracious, dont include both! > \includegraphics[bb=100 100 200 200]{bigjug.jpg} omit the .jpg, and let the system find a suitable version of bigjug > What happens: > > pdftex gets to the \includegraphics line and says "non-PDF special > ignored", then creates a .pdf file that fails to include the > picture. > > I'm sure there's something very basic that I'm missing here. Can > someone tell me what it is? yes, you dont have an intelligent graphics.cfg like this: \@ifundefined{pdfoutput}{\ExecuteOptions{dvips}}{\ExecuteOptions{pdftex}} sebastian _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 15-Feb-2001 15:48:59-GMT,1755;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA04510 for ; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 08:48:57 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 30DA62AE96; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 16:49:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from cogpsy.uni-trier.de (cogpsy.uni-trier.de [136.199.84.52]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f1FFmFm28473 for ; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 16:48:15 +0100 Received: from ol ([136.199.4.148]) by cogpsy.uni-trier.de (AppleShare IP Mail Server 6.3.1) id 51124 via TCP with SMTP; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 16:48:06 +0100 Message-id: <1010215164806.e989e1.88c75434.ASIP6.3.1.51124@cogpsy.uni-trier.de> To: pdftex@tug.org From: Oliver Lindemann Reply-To: lindemann@cogpsy.uni-trier.de X-Mailer: Opera 5.00 build 828 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: [pdftex] (no subject) Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 16:49:07 +0100 SUB pdftex Oliver Lindemann _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 15-Feb-2001 16:34:00-GMT,3101;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA05892 for ; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 09:33:58 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 998632AE8F; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 17:34:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from sage.coe.uga.edu (sage.coe.uga.edu [128.192.22.2]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f1FGX9m28766 for ; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 17:33:09 +0100 Received: from coe.uga.edu.coe.uga.edu (IDENT:ecashin@kali.coe.uga.edu [128.192.22.62]) by sage.coe.uga.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA11354; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 11:32:57 -0500 (EST) To: "Steven E. Landsburg" Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] simple graphics question References: <3A8AFE1A.13F50F98@landsburg.com> From: Ed L Cashin In-Reply-To: "Steven E. Landsburg"'s message of "Wed, 14 Feb 2001 16:52:26 -0500" Message-ID: Lines: 33 User-Agent: Gnus/5.070099 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.99) Emacs/20.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: 15 Feb 2001 11:32:57 -0500 Steven E. Landsburg writes: > I am writing plain TeX (*not* LaTeX) and want to be able to > produce both .dvi and .pdf files from the same source. I > have no problem doing this as long as there are no graphics > involved. ... > I'm sure there's something very basic that I'm missing here. Can > someone tell me what it is? When using the plain macropackage and MetaPost figures, I use epsf or supp-pdf, depending on whether I'm making a dvi or pdf: % here we test to see whether we're doing % postscript or pdf: \ifx\pdfoutput\undefined \input epsf \special{papersize=11in,8.5in} \else \input supp-pdf % mp support for pdftex \pdfpageheight=8.5in % landscape letter pagesize \pdfpagewidth=11in \fi ... and another conditional part later where the graphics are loaded. I haven't done raster graphics inclusion, but if you aren't using a fancier macropackage like ConTeXt or LaTeX, then you'll probably need similar conditional graphics code too. -- --Ed Cashin integrit file verification system ecashin@coe.uga.edu http://integrit.sourceforge.net/ _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 16-Feb-2001 10:02:59-GMT,2617;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA00294 for ; Fri, 16 Feb 2001 03:02:57 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id E79FB2AE92; Fri, 16 Feb 2001 11:03:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from dep.oprit.rug.nl (dep.oprit.rug.nl [129.125.36.9]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f1GA27m00814 for ; Fri, 16 Feb 2001 11:02:07 +0100 Received: from client44-3.kabela.oprit.rug.nl (postfix@client44-3.kabelA.oprit.rug.nl [129.125.44.3]) by dep.oprit.rug.nl (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA12357; Fri, 16 Feb 2001 11:01:54 +0100 (MET) Received: from client44-3.kabelA.oprit.rug.nl (bitmuis.thuis.nl [10.0.0.3]) by client44-3.kabela.oprit.rug.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC8F52317E; Fri, 16 Feb 2001 11:01:50 +0100 (CET) From: siepo@cybercomm.nl Reply-To: siepo@cybercomm.nl Subject: OT (Re: [pdftex] simple graphics question) To: pdftex@tug.org Cc: sebastian.rahtz@computing-services.oxford.ac.uk In-Reply-To: <14987.3917.78129.963777@spqr2.oucs.ox.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: <20010216100150.DC8F52317E@client44-3.kabela.oprit.rug.nl> Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 11:01:13 +0100 (CET) On 14 Feb, Sebastian Rahtz wrote: > Steven E. Landsburg writes: > > \input epsf > > \input graphicx > gracious, dont include both! That reminds me: once upon a time I needed a macro to automatically scale an eps graphic proportionally to fit within a given rectangle. So the figure would fit horizontally if it was wide, or vertically if it was tall. I loaded epsf because it provided access to the boundingbox parameters, but I used the graphics package for actual figure inclusion. It worked ok, but I would have been happier if it could have been done with just the graphics package. Did I miss something? -- Siep _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 16-Feb-2001 14:58:01-GMT,2371;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA04754 for ; Fri, 16 Feb 2001 07:57:59 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 2C54B2AE95; Fri, 16 Feb 2001 15:58:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from mx1.caravan.ru (mx1.caravan.ru [217.23.130.2]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f1GEvXm02267 for ; Fri, 16 Feb 2001 15:57:34 +0100 Received: from virscan (helo=mx1.caravan.ru) by mx1.caravan.ru with scanned-ok (Exim 3.16 #2) id 14TmNO-0002Sc-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Fri, 16 Feb 2001 18:00:50 +0300 Received: from [217.23.130.83] (helo=CARAVAN.caravan.ru) by mx1.caravan.ru with smtp (Exim 3.16 #2) id 14TmNN-0002SQ-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Fri, 16 Feb 2001 18:00:50 +0300 Message-ID: <01cb01c09828$7576af00$538217d9@caravan.ru> From: "tvp" To: References: <20010216100150.DC8F52317E@client44-3.kabela.oprit.rug.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Subject: [pdftex] hexadecimal strings Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 17:55:08 +0300 Hi, I would like to produce bookmarks in Russian. Since cyrillic characters are excluded from PDF coding vector I have to use Unicode. Whether there is any way to produce rather than (literal) strings with \pdfoutline or another pdftex primitives? I will be very grateful for any recommendations. Konstantin Mousatov tvp@tvp.ru _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 16-Feb-2001 15:57:01-GMT,2261;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA05973 for ; Fri, 16 Feb 2001 08:57:00 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 7C0892AE8B; Fri, 16 Feb 2001 16:57:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from wisbech.cl.cam.ac.uk (mta1.cl.cam.ac.uk [128.232.0.15]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f1GFuUm02682 for ; Fri, 16 Feb 2001 16:56:31 +0100 Received: from pallas.cl.cam.ac.uk ([128.232.8.88] helo=cl.cam.ac.uk ident=rf) by wisbech.cl.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.092 #1) id 14TmxD-0005eH-00; Fri, 16 Feb 2001 15:37:51 +0000 To: siepo@cybercomm.nl Cc: pdftex@tug.org, sebastian.rahtz@computing-services.oxford.ac.uk Subject: Re: OT (Re: [pdftex] simple graphics question) In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 16 Feb 2001 11:01:13 +0100." <20010216100150.DC8F52317E@client44-3.kabela.oprit.rug.nl> From: Robin Fairbairns Message-Id: Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 15:37:50 +0000 > On 14 Feb, Sebastian Rahtz wrote: > > Steven E. Landsburg writes: > > > \input epsf > > > \input graphicx > > gracious, dont include both! > > That reminds me: once upon a time I needed a macro to automatically > scale an eps graphic proportionally to fit within a given rectangle. So > the figure would fit horizontally if it was wide, or vertically if it > was tall. doesn't [width=xxx,height=yyy,keepaspectratio] do that for you? _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 16-Feb-2001 16:00:05-GMT,3220;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA06071 for ; Fri, 16 Feb 2001 09:00:04 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 3D74B2AE9D; Fri, 16 Feb 2001 17:00:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de (zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.53]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f1GFxem02764 for ; Fri, 16 Feb 2001 16:59:40 +0100 Received: from zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de.kammer.uni-hannover.de (reinhard@zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.54]) by zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA04678; Fri, 16 Feb 2001 16:58:53 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de: Host reinhard@zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.54] claimed to be zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de.kammer.uni-hannover.de From: Reinhard Kotucha MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14989.20062.214172.486331@zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de> To: siepo@cybercomm.nl Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: OT (Re: [pdftex] simple graphics question) In-Reply-To: <20010216100150.DC8F52317E@client44-3.kabela.oprit.rug.nl> References: <14987.3917.78129.963777@spqr2.oucs.ox.ac.uk> <20010216100150.DC8F52317E@client44-3.kabela.oprit.rug.nl> X-Mailer: VM 6.87 under Emacs 20.7.2 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 16:59:26 +0100 >>>>> "siepo" == siepo writes: > That reminds me: once upon a time I needed a macro to > automatically scale an eps graphic proportionally to fit within > a given rectangle. So the figure would fit horizontally if it > was wide, or vertically if it was tall. I loaded epsf because it > provided access to the boundingbox parameters, but I used the Hi, you could try to use \includegraphics inside a box and then use \settowidth and \settoheight to get the size of the graphic. Regards, Reinhard -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Reinhard Kotucha Phone: +49-511-751355 Berggartenstr. 9 D-30419 Hannover mailto:reinhard@kammer.uni-hannover.de ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Microsoft isn't the answer. Microsoft is the question, and the answer is NO. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 16-Feb-2001 16:36:12-GMT,2777;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA07120 for ; Fri, 16 Feb 2001 09:36:11 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 724DD2AE90; Fri, 16 Feb 2001 17:36:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from narmada.river-valley.com ([202.88.232.42]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f1GGZVm02975 for ; Fri, 16 Feb 2001 17:35:31 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by narmada.river-valley.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA04463; Fri, 16 Feb 2001 22:10:08 +0530 From: Radhakrishnan C V To: pdftex@tug.org Cc: siepo@cybercomm.nl Subject: Re: OT (Re: [pdftex] simple graphics question) In-Reply-To: <14989.20062.214172.486331@zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 22:10:08 +0530 (IST) : >>>>> "siepo" == siepo writes: : : > That reminds me: once upon a time I needed a macro to : > automatically scale an eps graphic proportionally to fit within : > a given rectangle. So the figure would fit horizontally if it : > was wide, or vertically if it was tall. I loaded epsf because it : > provided access to the boundingbox parameters, but I used the : \def\myincludegraphics#1#2#3{% \global\setbox0=\hbox{\includegraphics{#3}}% \ifdim\ht0>\wd0% \includegraphics[height=#1]{#3}% \else% \ifdim\wd0>\ht0% \includegraphics[width=#2]{#3}% \else% \ifdim\wd0=\ht0%% \includegraphics[height=#1,widht=#2,keepaspectratio]{#3}% \fi\fi\fi } The usage is \myincludegraphics{}{}{} -- Radhakrishnan ------------------------------------------------------------------- GPG Fingerprint: 208E F5EB A4B4 2024 AEE9 575D 13DE E3B9 0292 70EF GPG Public key : http://www.river-valley.com/gpg/cvr.gpg _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 16-Feb-2001 20:06:01-GMT,2064;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA12665 for ; Fri, 16 Feb 2001 13:06:00 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 593772AE90; Fri, 16 Feb 2001 21:06:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from dep.oprit.rug.nl (dep.oprit.rug.nl [129.125.36.9]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f1GK5Om04112 for ; Fri, 16 Feb 2001 21:05:24 +0100 Received: from client44-3.kabela.oprit.rug.nl (postfix@client44-3.kabelA.oprit.rug.nl [129.125.44.3]) by dep.oprit.rug.nl (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA19594 for ; Fri, 16 Feb 2001 21:05:11 +0100 (MET) Received: from client44-3.kabelA.oprit.rug.nl (bitmuis.thuis.nl [10.0.0.3]) by client44-3.kabela.oprit.rug.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1197F2317E for ; Fri, 16 Feb 2001 21:05:09 +0100 (CET) From: siepo@cybercomm.nl Reply-To: siepo@cybercomm.nl Subject: Re: OT (Re: [pdftex] simple graphics question) To: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: <20010216200509.1197F2317E@client44-3.kabela.oprit.rug.nl> Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 21:04:31 +0100 (CET) So there were better ways to do it, without epsf. Thanks. Siep _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 17-Feb-2001 17:02:05-GMT,2746;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA06572 for ; Sat, 17 Feb 2001 10:02:04 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id E293A2AE8B; Sat, 17 Feb 2001 18:02:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from blaubaer.kn-bremen.de (blaubaer.kn-bremen.de [195.37.179.254]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f1HH1Um08524 for ; Sat, 17 Feb 2001 18:01:30 +0100 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by blaubaer.kn-bremen.de (8.9.1/8.9.1) with UUCP id SAA27513 for pdftex@tug.org; Sat, 17 Feb 2001 18:00:28 +0100 Received: (from ms@localhost) by lucien.kn-bremen.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA02892 for pdftex@tug.org; Sat, 17 Feb 2001 16:54:59 +0100 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: OT (Re: [pdftex] simple graphics question) Message-ID: <20010217165459.A2821@lucien.kn-bremen.de> Mail-Followup-To: pdftex@tug.org References: <20010216100150.DC8F52317E@client44-3.kabela.oprit.rug.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from Robin.Fairbairns@cl.cam.ac.uk on Fri, Feb 16, 2001 at 03:37:50PM +0000 Organization: ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Strasse 8, D-28359 Bremen X-Disclaimer: The views expressed are my own and not necessarily that of my employers. Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 16:54:59 +0100 On 2001-02-16 15:37:50 +0000, Robin Fairbairns wrote: > > On 14 Feb, Sebastian Rahtz wrote: > > That reminds me: once upon a time I needed a macro to automatically > > scale an eps graphic proportionally to fit within a given rectangle. So > > the figure would fit horizontally if it was wide, or vertically if it > > was tall. > > doesn't > > [width=xxx,height=yyy,keepaspectratio] > > do that for you? Yes. :-) Best regards Martin -- http://www.tm.oneiros.de/calendar/2001/ _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 19-Feb-2001 17:07:56-GMT,2239;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA26379 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 10:07:55 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 7962F2AE9E; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 18:08:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from nina.cs.keele.ac.uk (newnina.cs.keele.ac.uk [160.5.89.78]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f1JH7Hm25208 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 18:07:17 +0100 Received: from hepburn.cs.keele.ac.uk ([160.5.92.186] helo=ant-roy.co.uk) by nina.cs.keele.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 14UtmC-0001Ex-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 17:07:04 +0000 Message-ID: <3A915284.3030309@ant-roy.co.uk> From: Anthony Roy User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; 0.7) Gecko/20010109 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [pdftex] Commutative Diagrams in PDFLaTeX Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 17:06:12 +0000 Hi all, Before converting to PDFLaTeX, I used a package "diagrams.sty" by Paul Taylor for producing commutative diagrams. Unfortunately this package does not fully work with PDFLaTeX. Does anyone know of a similar package that is PDFLaTeX compatible? -- Anthony J. Roy Dept. of Computer Science, Keele University, ST5 5BG, UK. e-mail: work@ant-roy.co.uk web : http://www.ant-roy.co.uk/research/ Tel : +44 1782 583438 Fax : +44 1782 713082 _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 19-Feb-2001 17:35:54-GMT,2333;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA26931 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 10:35:53 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 3A6BA2AEA5; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 18:36:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from simak.acpub.duke.edu (simak.acpub.duke.edu [152.3.232.12]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f1JHZlm25363 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 18:35:47 +0100 Received: from duke.duke (dup112.provost.duke.edu [152.3.228.112]) by simak.acpub.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Duke-5.0.0) with ESMTP id MAA02250; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 12:35:32 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.0.20010219123323.00a49830@mail-gr.acpub.duke.edu> X-Sender: grath@mail-gr.acpub.duke.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 To: pdftex@tug.org From: Steve Grathwohl Subject: Re: [pdftex] Commutative Diagrams in PDFLaTeX In-Reply-To: <3A915284.3030309@ant-roy.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 12:34:21 -0500 At 12:06 PM 2/19/01, Anthony Roy wrote: >Hi all, > >Before converting to PDFLaTeX, I used a package "diagrams.sty" by Paul >Taylor for producing commutative diagrams. > >Unfortunately this package does not fully work with PDFLaTeX. Does anyone >know of a similar package that is PDFLaTeX compatible? > My vote is for xypic. Steve -- Steve Grathwohl Duke Mathematical Journal * International Mathematics Research Notices grath@duke.edu * +001 919-687-3634 * fax: +001 919-688-5595 http://www.dukemathjournal.org _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 19-Feb-2001 17:43:56-GMT,2578;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA27085 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 10:43:55 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id B2C8A2AED3; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 18:44:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from orion.math.iastate.edu (orion.math.iastate.edu [129.186.52.80]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f1JHhJm25453 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 18:43:19 +0100 Received: from bergman.math.iastate.edu (IDENT:cliff@bergman.math.iastate.edu [129.186.52.64]) by orion.math.iastate.edu (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA03702; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 11:43:04 -0600 Message-Id: <200102191743.LAA03702@orion.math.iastate.edu> From: Cliff Bergman To: home@ant-roy.co.uk Cc: pdftex@tug.org Reply-To: cbergman@iastate.edu Subject: Re: [pdftex] Commutative Diagrams in PDFLaTeX In-Reply-To: <3A915284.3030309@ant-roy.co.uk> Organization: Iowa State University X-Mailer: XCmail 1.2 - with PGP support, PGP engine version 0.5 (Linux) X-Mailerorigin: http://www.fsai.fh-trier.de/~schmitzj/Xclasses/XCmail/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 11:43:02 +0010 (CST) Quoted mail: > Hi all, > > Before converting to PDFLaTeX, I used a package "diagrams.sty" by Paul > Taylor for producing commutative diagrams. > > Unfortunately this package does not fully work with PDFLaTeX. Does > anyone know of a similar package that is PDFLaTeX compatible? > > I've been successfully using "pb-diagram", which is available on CTAN in the latex section. One interesting twist is that it works alone and also with both the xy-pic arrows and also the lamstex arrows. If you use that latter, be sure to pick up the fixed versions of lams?.mf, dated Jan. 1997. --cb _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 19-Feb-2001 17:49:58-GMT,2963;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA27208 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 10:49:56 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id DE09D2AECC; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 18:50:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from wizard.ucc.ie (wizard.ucc.ie [143.239.211.92]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f1JHnmm25516 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 18:49:48 +0100 Received: from cs.ucc.ie (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wizard.ucc.ie (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA29143 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 17:49:39 GMT Message-ID: <3A915CB2.6B3A6289@cs.ucc.ie> From: Frank Boehme X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.10 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] Commutative Diagrams in PDFLaTeX References: <5.0.2.1.0.20010219123323.00a49830@mail-gr.acpub.duke.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 17:49:39 +0000 Steve Grathwohl wrote: > > At 12:06 PM 2/19/01, Anthony Roy wrote: > >Hi all, > > > >Before converting to PDFLaTeX, I used a package "diagrams.sty" by Paul > >Taylor for producing commutative diagrams. > > > >Unfortunately this package does not fully work with PDFLaTeX. Does anyone > >know of a similar package that is PDFLaTeX compatible? > > > > My vote is for xypic. That works fine if the used glyphs are available as Type 1 fonts. There is no output driver for pdftex (last time I checked was some months ago). Curved arrows are implemented as Postscript specials (with dvips outupt) or are pieced together from a number of dots and lines. The latter is what you would have to use under pldflatex. You could also go via ps to pdf and input the graphics separately. But you would run into a problem is the bounding box around diagrams with curved arrows. IMHO, Metapost is still the best option to include programmed graphics under pdftex. Frank -- Dr Frank Boehme | Email: f.boehme@cs.ucc.ie National University of Ireland, Cork | phone: +353-21-4903163 Dept of Computer Science | fax: +353-21-4903113 Cork, Ireland | _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 19-Feb-2001 17:56:12-GMT,2573;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA27316 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 10:56:11 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id A57592AE8B; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 18:56:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from batman.npl.co.uk (batman.npl.co.uk [139.143.5.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f1JHtTm25573 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 18:55:29 +0100 Received: from herschel.npl.co.uk ([139.143.1.16]) by batman.npl.co.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f1JHsVf18665; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 17:54:31 GMT Received: (from root@localhost) by herschel.npl.co.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f1JHsUG15917; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 17:54:30 GMT Received: by herschel.npl.co.uk XSMTPD/VSCAN; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 17:54:30 GMT Received: from tempest.npl.co.uk (tempest [139.143.18.16]) by capulin.cise.npl.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA02216; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 17:54:29 GMT Received: (from rmb1@localhost) by tempest.npl.co.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) id RAA28796; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 17:54:28 GMT From: Robin Barker Message-Id: <200102191754.RAA28796@tempest.npl.co.uk> To: f.boehme@cs.ucc.ie Subject: Re: [pdftex] Commutative Diagrams in PDFLaTeX Cc: pdftex@tug.org X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 17:54:28 GMT > IMHO, Metapost is still the best option to include programmed graphics > under pdftex. > > Frank > I was going to do this (use mp for arrows and boxes) but I wanted hyperlinks from the boxes and I could not see how to get this to work from mp. -- Robin Barker | Email: Robin.Barker@npl.co.uk CMSC, Building 10, | Phone: +44 (0) 20 8943 7090 National Physical Laboratory, | Fax: +44 (0) 20 8977 7091 Teddington, Middlesex, UK. TW11 OLW | WWW: http://www.npl.co.uk _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 19-Feb-2001 18:07:58-GMT,2120;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA27587 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 11:07:57 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id D3E4E2AED6; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 19:08:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from zevs.idi.ntnu.no (zevs.idi.ntnu.no [129.241.164.12]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f1JI7Om25657 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 19:07:24 +0100 Received: from vier.idi.ntnu.no (vier.idi.ntnu.no [129.241.103.4]) by zevs.idi.ntnu.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA29838; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 19:07:10 +0100 (MET) From: Magnus Lie Hetland To: Cliff Bergman Cc: Subject: Re: [pdftex] Commutative Diagrams in PDFLaTeX In-Reply-To: <200102191743.LAA03702@orion.math.iastate.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 19:07:05 +0100 (MET) On Mon, 19 Feb 2001, Cliff Bergman wrote: > Quoted mail: [...] > I've been successfully using "pb-diagram", which is available on CTAN in > the latex section. IIRC, amscd works fine with pdftex. > --cb -- Magnus Lie Hetland (magnus at hetland dot org) "Reality is what refuses to disappear when you stop believing in it" -- Philip K. Dick _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 19-Feb-2001 22:02:56-GMT,3961;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA02790 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 15:02:54 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id E61702AEE4; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 23:03:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from macadam.mpce.mq.edu.au (macadam.mpce.mq.edu.au [137.111.216.12]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f1JM2Vm26709 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 23:02:31 +0100 Received: from hera.mpce.mq.edu.au (hera.mpce.mq.edu.au [137.111.219.13]) by macadam.mpce.mq.edu.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA08954; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 09:02:20 +1100 (EST) Received: (from ross@localhost) by hera.mpce.mq.edu.au (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id JAA06137; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 09:02:15 +1100 (EST) From: Ross Moore Message-Id: <200102192202.JAA06137@hera.mpce.mq.edu.au> Subject: Re: [pdftex] Commutative Diagrams in PDFLaTeX In-Reply-To: <3A915CB2.6B3A6289@cs.ucc.ie> from Frank Boehme at "Feb 19, 2001 05:49:39 pm" To: Frank Boehme Cc: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL71 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 09:02:14 +1100 (EST) > Steve Grathwohl wrote: > > > > > > My vote is for xypic. > > That works fine if the used glyphs are available as Type 1 fonts. There Fully hinted Type 1 fonts have been available freely from Y&Y since 1997. http://www.yandy.com/downloads.htm http://www.yandy.com/download/xy_fonts.zip > There is no output driver for pdftex (last time I checked was some months Yes, and no. There is no driver to do direct drawing in PDF, as with the PostScript backend. But there is a support-driver bundle: http://www-texdev.mpce.mq.edu.au/xypic/xypdf.tar.gz that handles color-changes. > ago). Curved arrows are implemented as Postscript specials (with dvips > outupt) or are pieced together from a number of dots and lines. The > latter is what you would have to use under pldflatex. You could also go Yes. The dots + lines + arrowheads works very well, with the hinted Type1 fonts providing the building blocks. Together with the available color support, this is enough for most purposes. If anyone wishes to provide full object-oriented drawing capabilities in PDF --- that is, a true PDF back-end for Xy-pic --- then I'd be glad to help; I just don't have the time to do it all myself. (The difficulties in this task stem from the lack, in PDF, of the programmable structures available with PostScript.) Hope this helps, Ross Moore > via ps to pdf and input the graphics separately. But you would run into > a problem is the bounding box around diagrams with curved arrows. > > IMHO, Metapost is still the best option to include programmed graphics > under pdftex. > > Frank > > -- > Dr Frank Boehme | Email: f.boehme@cs.ucc.ie > National University of Ireland, Cork | phone: +353-21-4903163 > Dept of Computer Science | fax: +353-21-4903113 > Cork, Ireland | > _______________________________________________ > pdftex mailing list > pdftex@tug.org > http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 20-Feb-2001 9:04:56-GMT,2044;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA15904 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 02:04:55 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id C6B4D2AEE0; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 10:05:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from hotmail.com (f287.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.236.165]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f1K944m29597 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 10:04:04 +0100 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 01:03:50 -0800 Received: from 203.129.228.100 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 09:03:49 GMT X-Originating-IP: [203.129.228.100] From: "Chandrasekar Chinnathambi" To: pdftex@tug.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Feb 2001 09:03:50.0006 (UTC) FILETIME=[0A450960:01C09B1C] Subject: [pdftex] merging pdf file Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 09:03:49 -0000
 
Hai,
Can u please tell me how to merge two pdf files.
Rgds
Chandra
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_______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 20-Feb-2001 10:34:55-GMT,2783;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA17519 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 03:34:54 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 7CACB2AEE6; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 11:35:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from narmada.river-valley.com ([202.88.232.42]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f1KAYJm30014 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 11:34:20 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by narmada.river-valley.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA02016; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 16:06:29 +0530 From: Radhakrishnan C V To: Chandrasekar Chinnathambi Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] merging pdf file In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 16:06:29 +0530 (IST) On Tue, 20 Feb 2001, Chandrasekar Chinnathambi wrote: : Can u please tell me how to merge two pdf files. Grab the package pdfpages.sty from CTAN. Create a TeX file as given below: \documentclass[a4paper]{article} \usepackage[final]{pdfpages} \begin{document} \includepdf[firstpage=, lastpage=] {} \includepdf[firstpage=, lastpage=] {} \end{document} Run pdfLaTeX over this document and you will get a composite pdf document. Hope this helps. By the way, what is this `u' in the `Can u please ...'? Only Indians write this dirty trash, while native English speakers dont do it. It might be better if you write standard English when you intend to communicate with others. -- Radhakrishnan ------------------------------------------------------------------- GPG Fingerprint: 208E F5EB A4B4 2024 AEE9 575D 13DE E3B9 0292 70EF GPG Public key : http://www.river-valley.com/gpg/cvr.gpg _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 21-Feb-2001 7:38:55-GMT,2271;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA18946 for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 00:38:54 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id C83082AE93; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 08:39:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from mephi.ru (danko.mephi.ru [194.67.67.34]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f1L7cim02922 for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 08:38:45 +0100 Received: from htsc.UUCP (uucp@localhost) by mephi.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with UUCP id KAA93748 for pdftex@tug.org; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 10:27:03 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from htsc.mephi.ru!kuzn@htsc.mephi.ru) Received: by htsc.mephi.ru (dMail for Windows v1.2P, 23Jul96); Wed, 21 Feb 2001 10:38:01 +0300 To: pdftex@tug.org Organization: MEPhI Message-Id: From: kuzn@htsc.mephi.ru (A.V. Kuznetsov) X-Mailer: dMail [Demos Mail for Windows v1.2 Professional] Lines: 16 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [pdftex] font transformations Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 10:38:01 +0300 (MSK) Experts, please, help me. What succession of the font transformations is used in pdftex, dvips and dvipdfm? a) It is determined by a font description in a map-file, for example, ptmro8re ...... "1.2 ExtendFont .167 SlantFont" or ptmro8re ... -e 1.2 -s .167 What transformation is the first in this case? b) It is predefined in each programm. Again, what transformation is made at first? Thank you in advance, A.Kuznetsov _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 21-Feb-2001 11:40:55-GMT,2745;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA23232 for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 04:40:54 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id F39CF2AE99; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 12:41:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz ([147.251.4.33]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f1LBeLm04014 for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 12:40:21 +0100 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA02604; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 12:38:54 +0100 (MET) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA20219; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 12:38:50 +0100 (MET) From: Han The Thanh Message-Id: <200102211138.MAA20219@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Subject: Re: [pdftex] font transformations In-Reply-To: from "A.V. Kuznetsov" at "Feb 21, 1 10:38:01 am" To: kuzn@htsc.mephi.ru (A.V. Kuznetsov) Cc: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 12:38:50 +0100 (MET) > Experts, please, help me. > What succession of the font transformations is used > in pdftex, dvips and dvipdfm? > > a) It is determined by a font description in a map-file, > for example, > ptmro8re ...... "1.2 ExtendFont .167 SlantFont" or > ptmro8re ... -e 1.2 -s .167 > What transformation is the first in this case? > > b) It is predefined in each programm. > Again, what transformation is made at first? pdftex always does slanting first, regardless the order given in the map entry. (see writet1.c) Thanh PS: Concerning the font embedding problem: yes it would certainly be great to make pdftex to embed one font file for multiple instances using various transformations of a single font. But I am sorry to say that I am not going to do it, as I don't consider it worthwhile for the needed effort. _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 21-Feb-2001 14:47:54-GMT,2891;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA26821 for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 07:47:53 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 9671C2AE93; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 15:48:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.bremen.pop.de (mars.hamburg.pop.de [195.222.210.104]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f1LElem11931 for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 15:47:40 +0100 Received: from uucp by mail.bremen.pop.de with local-rmail (Exim 2.02 #2) id 14VaeN-00059s-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 15:53:51 +0100 Received: (from uartcom@localhost) by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id PAA27064 for tug.org!pdftex; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 15:46:06 +0100 (MET) >Received: by artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de (Smail3.2 #1) id m14VaVs-004wwRC; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 15:45:04 +0100 (MET) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] URL for latest PDFTeX / what happend with tug.org? Message-ID: <20010221154504.E9737@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mail-Followup-To: pdftex@tug.org References: <3A701336.6B058338@gmx.de> <200101251420.PAA01918@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200101251420.PAA01918@anxur.fi.muni.cz>; from thanh@informatics.muni.cz on Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 03:20:39PM +0100 Organization: ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Strasse 8, D-28359 Bremen X-Disclaimer: The views expressed are my own and not necessarily that of my employers. Received: from artcom8 by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 15:46 MET Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 15:45:04 +0100 On 2001-01-25 15:20:39 +0100, Han The Thanh wrote: > I put pdftex releases on > ftp://ftp.cstug.cz/pub/tex/local/cstug/thanh/pdftex > > which is mirrored at > ftp://ftp.freesoftware.com/pub/tex/pdftex/ If you make such changes, please tell somebody (at least Sebastian), so that http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/ is updated? Currently the link provided there is dead. Best regards Martin -- http://www.tm.oneiros.de/calendar/2001/ _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 21-Feb-2001 15:05:55-GMT,3861;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA27191 for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 08:05:54 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 349892B612; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 16:06:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.bremen.pop.de (mars.hamburg.pop.de [195.222.210.104]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f1LF5Lm12124 for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 16:05:21 +0100 Received: from uucp by mail.bremen.pop.de with local-rmail (Exim 2.02 #2) id 14VavV-0005O2-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 16:11:33 +0100 Received: (from uartcom@localhost) by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id QAA27351 for tug.org!pdftex; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 16:02:50 +0100 (MET) >Received: by artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de (Smail3.2 #1) id m14Vaar-004wwRC; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 15:50:13 +0100 (MET) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= To: PDF-TeX mailing list Subject: Re: [pdftex] /pdfinfo {/Producer (foo)} not working Message-ID: <20010221155013.F9737@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mail-Followup-To: PDF-TeX mailing list References: <20010103140743.A652@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <20010103140743.A652@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <20010213224228.B5462@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <3.0.1.16.20010214184753.33d72ef8@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.16.20010214184753.33d72ef8@localhost>; from oberdiek@ruf.uni-freiburg.de on Wed, Feb 14, 2001 at 06:47:53PM +0100 Organization: ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Strasse 8, D-28359 Bremen X-Disclaimer: The views expressed are my own and not necessarily that of my employers. Received: from artcom8 by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 16:02 MET Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 15:50:13 +0100 On 2001-02-14 18:47:53 +0100, Heiko Oberdiek wrote: > It seems that the pdfinfo part is introduced _after_ > the default entry of pdfTeX, so that the resulting > pdf file will contain > \pdfinfo{/Producer(foo)/Creator(bar)} > ==> > /Producer (pdfTeX-0.14g) > /Producer(foo)/Creator(bar) > /Creator (TeX) > > AR seems to use the first entry, so that "foo" > is hided. Dictionaries in PDF have no defined order; the value of a multiple defined key is undefined per spec -- but most likely the first entry in the PDF file is taken. The reason for this misfeature is here: @ @= pdf_new_dict(obj_type_others, 0); @; if pdf_info_toks <> null then begin pdf_print_toks_ln(pdf_info_toks); delete_toks(pdf_info_toks); end; pdf_str_entry_ln("Creator", "TeX"); @; pdf_end_dict Changing this to @ @= pdf_new_dict(obj_type_others, 0); if pdf_info_toks <> null then begin pdf_print_toks_ln(pdf_info_toks); delete_toks(pdf_info_toks); end; @; ... would solve the problem. Best regards Martin -- http://www.tm.oneiros.de/calendar/2001/ _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 21-Feb-2001 15:12:58-GMT,2708;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA27332 for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 08:12:57 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 8F8232B5A4; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 16:13:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.bremen.pop.de (mars.hamburg.pop.de [195.222.210.104]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f1LFCpm12219 for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 16:12:51 +0100 Received: from uucp by mail.bremen.pop.de with local-rmail (Exim 2.02 #2) id 14Vb2k-0005WT-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 16:19:02 +0100 Received: (from uartcom@localhost) by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id QAA27625 for tug.org!pdftex; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 16:11:05 +0100 (MET) >Received: by artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de (Smail3.2 #1) id m14VauT-004wwRC; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 16:10:29 +0100 (MET) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= To: pdftex@tug.org Message-ID: <20010221161029.G9737@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mail-Followup-To: pdftex@tug.org References: <3.0.6.32.20001212190950.0140ed30@pop.wxs.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20001212190950.0140ed30@pop.wxs.nl>; from pragma@wxs.nl on Tue, Dec 12, 2000 at 07:09:50PM +0100 Organization: ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Strasse 8, D-28359 Bremen X-Disclaimer: The views expressed are my own and not necessarily that of my employers. Received: from artcom8 by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 16:11 MET Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [pdftex] Re: thanh's thesis Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 16:10:29 +0100 On 2000-12-12 19:09:50 +0100, Hans Hagen wrote: > You can find a copy of thanh's thesis at: > > http://www.pragma-ade.com/pragma-ade/pdftex/thesis.pdf > http://www.pragma-ade.com/pragma-ade/pdftex/thesis-lin.pdf s/pragma-ade\/// :-) Will there be a book? Best regards Martin -- http://www.tm.oneiros.de/calendar/2001/ _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 21-Feb-2001 18:04:55-GMT,2306;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA02712 for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 11:04:54 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 0EA212AE8F; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 19:05:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f1LI4mm13414 for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 19:04:48 +0100 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA06469; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 19:04:36 +0100 (MET) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA27355; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 19:04:35 +0100 (MET) From: Han The Thanh Message-Id: <200102211804.TAA27355@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Subject: Re: [pdftex] /pdfinfo {/Producer (foo)} not working In-Reply-To: <20010221155013.F9737@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> from =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= at "Feb 21, 1 03:50:13 pm" To: ms@artcom-gmbh.de (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?=) Cc: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 19:04:35 +0100 (MET) > Dictionaries in PDF have no defined order; the value of a > multiple defined key is undefined per spec -- but most likely the > first entry in the PDF file is taken. yes indeed. > The reason for this misfeature is here: I want to make sure the Producer key is fixed Thanh _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 21-Feb-2001 18:20:55-GMT,3057;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA03197 for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 11:20:53 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id EEC7F2AEAB; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 19:21:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.bremen.pop.de (mars.hamburg.pop.de [195.222.210.104]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f1LIKZm13531 for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 19:20:35 +0100 Received: from uucp by mail.bremen.pop.de with local-rmail (Exim 2.02 #2) id 14VdyR-0007hc-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 19:26:47 +0100 Received: (from uartcom@localhost) by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id TAA29715 for tug.org!pdftex; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 19:19:06 +0100 (MET) >Received: by artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de (Smail3.2 #1) id m14VdqA-004wwRC; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 19:18:14 +0100 (MET) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] /pdfinfo {/Producer (foo)} not working Message-ID: <20010221191814.I9737@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mail-Followup-To: pdftex@tug.org References: <20010221155013.F9737@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <200102211804.TAA27355@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200102211804.TAA27355@anxur.fi.muni.cz>; from thanh@informatics.muni.cz on Wed, Feb 21, 2001 at 07:04:35PM +0100 Organization: ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Strasse 8, D-28359 Bremen X-Disclaimer: The views expressed are my own and not necessarily that of my employers. Received: from artcom8 by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 19:19 MET Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 19:18:14 +0100 On 2001-02-21 19:04:35 +0100, Han The Thanh wrote: > > Dictionaries in PDF have no defined order; the value of a > > multiple defined key is undefined per spec -- but most likely the > > first entry in the PDF file is taken. > > yes indeed. > > > The reason for this misfeature is here: > > I want to make sure the Producer key is fixed If the order of statements were changed as by the patch the /Producer(pdfTeX) would still be included -- but _after_ any Producer key from the document, i.e. the document could override the key. Best regards Martin -- http://www.tm.oneiros.de/calendar/2001/ _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 22-Feb-2001 8:40:54-GMT,2671;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA26101 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 01:40:53 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id B7FAA2AE8C; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 09:41:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from mephi.ru (danko.mephi.ru [194.67.67.34]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f1M8eJm16876 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 09:40:20 +0100 Received: from htsc.UUCP (uucp@localhost) by mephi.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with UUCP id LAA05706 for pdftex@tug.org; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 11:28:35 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from htsc.mephi.ru!kuzn@htsc.mephi.ru) Received: by htsc.mephi.ru (dMail for Windows v1.2P, 23Jul96); Thu, 22 Feb 2001 11:39:52 +0300 To: pdftex@tug.org Organization: MEPhI Message-Id: From: kuzn@htsc.mephi.ru (A.V. Kuznetsov) X-Mailer: dMail [Demos Mail for Windows v1.2 Professional] Lines: 19 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [pdftex] ToUnicode CMap Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 11:39:52 +0300 (MSK) As known, there are two aspects of the language problem in pdf and ps documents: showing of a text and determination of a text content. The former is successfully solved in pdftex, dvips and dvipdfm by embedding of needed fonts but the latter is still open for Cyrillic and many other languages. To solve the latter problem one should embed ToUnicode CMap with the font (PDF 1.3 Reference 5.9 sec.ed.). This CMap relates codes of font's glyphs to Unicode codes, it can easily be made when such relations are known. It seems to be necessary to embed ToUnicode CMap in embedded font program. Data for ToUnicode CMap generation can be obtained from a separate file containing code-to-code relations. This file can be connected with corresponding font like encoding file in font-map. Is it possible in pdftex's future? A.Kuznetsov _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 22-Feb-2001 9:11:02-GMT,2932;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA26654 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 02:10:54 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id DD5642AE8C; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 10:11:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp9.xs4all.nl (smtp9.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.135]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f1M9Afm17060 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 10:10:41 +0100 Received: from server-1.pragma-ade.nl (s340-isdn1096.dial.xs4all.nl [194.109.184.72]) by smtp9.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA02541; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 10:10:29 +0100 (CET) Received: from laptop-1 (laptop-1.pragma-ade.nl [200.1.1.25]) by server-1.pragma-ade.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA16028; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 10:02:44 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20010222085124.01c17400@server-1> X-Sender: hagen@server-1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) To: Martin =?iso-8859-1?Q?Schr=F6der?= From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: [pdftex] Re: thanh's thesis Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: <20010221161029.G9737@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> References: <3.0.6.32.20001212190950.0140ed30@pop.wxs.nl> <3.0.6.32.20001212190950.0140ed30@pop.wxs.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.daimi.au.dk id f1M9Afm17060 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 08:51:24 +0100 At 04:10 PM 2/21/01 +0100, Martin Schröder wrote: >On 2000-12-12 19:09:50 +0100, Hans Hagen wrote: >> You can find a copy of thanh's thesis at: >> >> http://www.pragma-ade.com/pragma-ade/pdftex/thesis.pdf >> http://www.pragma-ade.com/pragma-ade/pdftex/thesis-lin.pdf > >s/pragma-ade\/// :-) right, we moved the whole site to a dedicated server Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma@wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 22-Feb-2001 9:11:37-GMT,2827;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA26663 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 02:11:36 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 6A9542AE97; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 10:11:03 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp9.xs4all.nl (smtp9.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.135]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f1M9Aom17064 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 10:10:50 +0100 Received: from server-1.pragma-ade.nl (s340-isdn1096.dial.xs4all.nl [194.109.184.72]) by smtp9.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA02660; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 10:10:37 +0100 (CET) Received: from laptop-1 (laptop-1.pragma-ade.nl [200.1.1.25]) by server-1.pragma-ade.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA16030; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 10:02:44 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20010222085532.00afe6c0@server-1> X-Sender: hagen@server-1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) To: Han The Thanh From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: [pdftex] /pdfinfo {/Producer (foo)} not working Cc: ms@artcom-gmbh.de (Martin =?iso-8859-1?Q?Schr=F6der?= ), pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: <200102211804.TAA27355@anxur.fi.muni.cz> References: <20010221155013.F9737@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 08:55:32 +0100 At 07:04 PM 2/21/01 +0100, Han The Thanh wrote: >> Dictionaries in PDF have no defined order; the value of a >> multiple defined key is undefined per spec -- but most likely the >> first entry in the PDF file is taken. > >yes indeed. > >> The reason for this misfeature is here: > >I want to make sure the Producer key is fixed Which is a good thing. Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma@wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 22-Feb-2001 9:13:48-GMT,3387;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA26732 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 02:13:47 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 0C6112AEAB; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 10:12:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp9.xs4all.nl (smtp9.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.135]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f1M9BLm17136 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 10:11:21 +0100 Received: from server-1.pragma-ade.nl (s340-isdn1096.dial.xs4all.nl [194.109.184.72]) by smtp9.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA02615; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 10:10:33 +0100 (CET) Received: from laptop-1 (laptop-1.pragma-ade.nl [200.1.1.25]) by server-1.pragma-ade.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA16032; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 10:02:45 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20010222090133.00afecd0@server-1> X-Sender: hagen@server-1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) To: Martin =?iso-8859-1?Q?Schr=F6der?= From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: [pdftex] /pdfinfo {/Producer (foo)} not working Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: <20010221191814.I9737@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> References: <200102211804.TAA27355@anxur.fi.muni.cz> <20010221155013.F9737@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <200102211804.TAA27355@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.daimi.au.dk id f1M9BLm17136 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 09:01:33 +0100 At 07:18 PM 2/21/01 +0100, Martin Schröder wrote: >On 2001-02-21 19:04:35 +0100, Han The Thanh wrote: >> > Dictionaries in PDF have no defined order; the value of a >> > multiple defined key is undefined per spec -- but most likely the >> > first entry in the PDF file is taken. >> >> yes indeed. >> >> > The reason for this misfeature is here: >> >> I want to make sure the Producer key is fixed > >If the order of statements were changed as by the patch the >/Producer(pdfTeX) would still be included -- but _after_ any >Producer key from the document, i.e. the document could override >the key. But that is exactly what is not wanted, since pdftex is the producer. You can always use the other fields to smuggle your name into the doc. Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma@wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 22-Feb-2001 9:24:39-GMT,3364;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA26950 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 02:24:38 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 5A5912AE8B; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 10:23:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.bremen.pop.de (mars.hamburg.pop.de [195.222.210.104]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f1M9MWm17237 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 10:22:32 +0100 Received: from uucp by mail.bremen.pop.de with local-rmail (Exim 2.02 #2) id 14Vs3H-0007ou-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 10:28:43 +0100 Received: (from uartcom@localhost) by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id KAA04716 for tug.org!pdftex; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 10:21:05 +0100 (MET) >Received: by artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de (Smail3.2 #1) id m14Vrvm-004wwRC; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 10:20:58 +0100 (MET) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] /pdfinfo {/Producer (foo)} not working Message-ID: <20010222102058.L9737@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mail-Followup-To: pdftex@tug.org References: <200102211804.TAA27355@anxur.fi.muni.cz> <20010221155013.F9737@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <200102211804.TAA27355@anxur.fi.muni.cz> <20010221191814.I9737@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <3.0.6.32.20010222090133.00afecd0@server-1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20010222090133.00afecd0@server-1>; from pragma@wxs.nl on Thu, Feb 22, 2001 at 09:01:33AM +0100 Organization: ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Strasse 8, D-28359 Bremen X-Disclaimer: The views expressed are my own and not necessarily that of my employers. Received: from artcom8 by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 10:21 MET Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 10:20:58 +0100 On 2001-02-22 09:01:33 +0100, Hans Hagen wrote: > >If the order of statements were changed as by the patch the > >/Producer(pdfTeX) would still be included -- but _after_ any > >Producer key from the document, i.e. the document could override > >the key. > > But that is exactly what is not wanted, since pdftex is the producer. You > can always use the other fields to smuggle your name into the doc. :-{ My company would like to hide the fact that we are using pdfTeX from our customers (while I would like to announce it to them). Of course we could always produce a patched version... Btw: If this is really a feature, the documentation (e.g. the web companion) is wrong as the Producer entry can _not_ be set. Best regards Martin -- http://www.tm.oneiros.de/calendar/2001/ _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 22-Feb-2001 10:10:55-GMT,3387;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA27923 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 03:10:54 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 6D0322AE8D; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 11:11:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp9.xs4all.nl (smtp9.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.135]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f1MAAem17483 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 11:10:40 +0100 Received: from server-1.pragma-ade.nl (s340-isdn1096.dial.xs4all.nl [194.109.184.72]) by smtp9.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA29003; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 11:10:28 +0100 (CET) Received: from laptop-1 (laptop-1.pragma-ade.nl [200.1.1.25]) by server-1.pragma-ade.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA16200; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 11:02:15 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20010222105734.018b5bf0@server-1> X-Sender: hagen@server-1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) To: kuzn@htsc.mephi.ru (A.V. Kuznetsov) From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: [pdftex] ToUnicode CMap Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 10:57:34 +0100 At 11:39 AM 2/22/01 +0300, A.V. Kuznetsov wrote: >As known, there are two aspects of the language problem in pdf and >ps documents: showing of a text and determination of a text >content. The former is successfully solved in pdftex, dvips and >dvipdfm by embedding of needed fonts but the latter is still open >for Cyrillic and many other languages. > >To solve the latter problem one should embed ToUnicode CMap with >the font (PDF 1.3 Reference 5.9 sec.ed.). This CMap relates codes >of font's glyphs to Unicode codes, it can easily be made when such >relations are known. > >It seems to be necessary to embed ToUnicode CMap in embedded font >program. Data for ToUnicode CMap generation can be obtained from a >separate file containing code-to-code relations. This file can be >connected with corresponding font like encoding file in font-map. >Is it possible in pdftex's future? This can be done by defining pdf font resources but hooking it into your font system could be non trivial [i implemented in context a couple of month on behalf of central european users] Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma@wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 22-Feb-2001 10:11:39-GMT,3815;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA27933 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 03:11:38 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id E532C2AE9D; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 11:11:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp9.xs4all.nl (smtp9.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.135]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f1MAAfm17487 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 11:10:41 +0100 Received: from server-1.pragma-ade.nl (s340-isdn1096.dial.xs4all.nl [194.109.184.72]) by smtp9.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA29014; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 11:10:28 +0100 (CET) Received: from laptop-1 (laptop-1.pragma-ade.nl [200.1.1.25]) by server-1.pragma-ade.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA16199; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 11:02:14 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20010222105231.00b10510@server-1> X-Sender: hagen@server-1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) To: Martin =?iso-8859-1?Q?Schr=F6der?= From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: [pdftex] /pdfinfo {/Producer (foo)} not working Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: <20010222102058.L9737@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> References: <3.0.6.32.20010222090133.00afecd0@server-1> <200102211804.TAA27355@anxur.fi.muni.cz> <20010221155013.F9737@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <200102211804.TAA27355@anxur.fi.muni.cz> <20010221191814.I9737@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <3.0.6.32.20010222090133.00afecd0@server-1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.daimi.au.dk id f1MAAfm17487 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 10:52:31 +0100 At 10:20 AM 2/22/01 +0100, Martin Schröder wrote: >On 2001-02-22 09:01:33 +0100, Hans Hagen wrote: >> >If the order of statements were changed as by the patch the >> >/Producer(pdfTeX) would still be included -- but _after_ any >> >Producer key from the document, i.e. the document could override >> >the key. >> >> But that is exactly what is not wanted, since pdftex is the producer. You >> can always use the other fields to smuggle your name into the doc. > >:-{ > >My company would like to hide the fact that we are using pdfTeX incredible, then how is linux called in your company, and word, and times roman, and ... >from our customers (while I would like to announce it to them). Well, tell your boss that it is hard coded. It is widely accepted that one cannot change anything in ms binaries, so a manager should understand. Also, you don't change font producer info either do you? >Of course we could always produce a patched version... Indeed. Or parse the pdf file with perl and change "pdftex" into "artcom'. Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma@wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 22-Feb-2001 10:27:55-GMT,3347;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA28227 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 03:27:54 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 37BAD2AE8B; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 11:28:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f1MARHm17628 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 11:27:17 +0100 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA08449; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 11:27:04 +0100 (MET) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA22463; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 11:27:03 +0100 (MET) From: Han The Thanh Message-Id: <200102221027.LAA22463@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Subject: Re: [pdftex] ToUnicode CMap In-Reply-To: from "A.V. Kuznetsov" at "Feb 22, 1 11:39:52 am" To: kuzn@htsc.mephi.ru (A.V. Kuznetsov) Cc: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 11:27:02 +0100 (MET) > As known, there are two aspects of the language problem in pdf and > ps documents: showing of a text and determination of a text > content. The former is successfully solved in pdftex, dvips and > dvipdfm by embedding of needed fonts but the latter is still open > for Cyrillic and many other languages. > > To solve the latter problem one should embed ToUnicode CMap with > the font (PDF 1.3 Reference 5.9 sec.ed.). This CMap relates codes > of font's glyphs to Unicode codes, it can easily be made when such > relations are known. > > It seems to be necessary to embed ToUnicode CMap in embedded font > program. Data for ToUnicode CMap generation can be obtained from a > separate file containing code-to-code relations. This file can be > connected with corresponding font like encoding file in font-map. > Is it possible in pdftex's future? this feature was asked by a czech fellow a time ago. I provided a hook for this purpose called \pdffontattr, which can be used to append further entries into the font dictionary. I have to admit that I didn't use it yet -- what is provided here is the fastest hook for the fellow to get his work done. I am sure you know pretty well the pdf spec, so it should not be a problem to create the ToUnicode CMap using the existing pdftex primitives. You can also contact the man who needed this feature by email: koala@informatics.muni.cz Regards, Thanh _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 22-Feb-2001 10:28:55-GMT,3696;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA28256 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 03:28:54 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id C858D2AED8; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 11:28:03 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.bremen.pop.de (mars.hamburg.pop.de [195.222.210.104]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f1MAROm17632 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 11:27:24 +0100 Received: from uucp by mail.bremen.pop.de with local-rmail (Exim 2.02 #2) id 14Vt42-0000Cu-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 11:33:34 +0100 Received: (from uartcom@localhost) by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id LAA05647 for tug.org!pdftex; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 11:26:05 +0100 (MET) >Received: by artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de (Smail3.2 #1) id m14Vsw8-004wwRC; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 11:25:24 +0100 (MET) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] /pdfinfo {/Producer (foo)} not working Message-ID: <20010222112524.P9737@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mail-Followup-To: pdftex@tug.org References: <3.0.6.32.20010222090133.00afecd0@server-1> <200102211804.TAA27355@anxur.fi.muni.cz> <20010221155013.F9737@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <200102211804.TAA27355@anxur.fi.muni.cz> <20010221191814.I9737@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <3.0.6.32.20010222090133.00afecd0@server-1> <20010222102058.L9737@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <3.0.6.32.20010222105231.00b10510@server-1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20010222105231.00b10510@server-1>; from pragma@wxs.nl on Thu, Feb 22, 2001 at 10:52:31AM +0100 Organization: ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Strasse 8, D-28359 Bremen X-Disclaimer: The views expressed are my own and not necessarily that of my employers. Received: from artcom8 by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 11:26 MET Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 11:25:24 +0100 On 2001-02-22 10:52:31 +0100, Hans Hagen wrote: > At 10:20 AM 2/22/01 +0100, Martin Schröder wrote: > >My company would like to hide the fact that we are using pdfTeX > > incredible, then how is linux called in your company, and word, and times > roman, and ... Hans, welcome in the "closed source" world. :-) Some RIPs output the /Producer key on each printed plate. Reading "pdfTeX " there might give others (i.e. competitors) the idea of also using pdfTeX and could irritate customers ("what is this pdfTeX? I though the plates were done by ArtCom?"). And the documentation tells me I can change the key... > >Of course we could always produce a patched version... >Indeed. Or parse the pdf file with perl and change "pdftex" into >"artcom'. Unlikely as the files are LARGE (250 MB is common). Instead we'll do an incremental update and attach a changed info dict. Best regards Martin -- http://www.tm.oneiros.de/calendar/2001/ _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 22-Feb-2001 11:06:54-GMT,2216;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA29003 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 04:06:53 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id A06FE2AEC7; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 12:07:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from albert.physik.hu-berlin.de (mail.physik.hu-berlin.de [141.20.47.11]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f1MB65m17897 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 12:06:05 +0100 Received: from pbp4 (mail@pbp4.physik.hu-berlin.de [141.20.42.26]) by albert.physik.hu-berlin.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA03734 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 12:05:52 +0100 Received: from tannert (helo=localhost) by pbp4 with local-smtp (Exim 3.16 #1 (Debian)) id 14VtZJ-0000KT-00 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 12:05:53 +0100 From: Sebastian Tannert X-Sender: tannert@pbp4 To: pdftex@tug.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [pdftex] Bitmaps with transparent background? Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 12:05:53 +0100 (CET) Hello, reading of the manuals and the FAQ of pdfTeX did not gave a answer to the question: Is it possible to include a bitmap graphic with transparent background? And when it is possible, how it is done, I tried with PNG but this result in black background. May be PDF does not allow transparent background in bitmaps? Thanks! Sebastian _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 22-Feb-2001 11:17:00-GMT,2689;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA29214 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 04:16:59 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 3D75D2AE8D; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 12:17:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from ecnwall.ecn.nl (ecnwall.ecn.nl [130.112.1.86]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f1MBGAm18004 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 12:16:10 +0100 Received: from ecntex.ecn.nl (ecntex.ecn.nl [130.112.1.26]) by ecnwall.ecn.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F7F62BA for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 12:15:53 +0100 (MET) Received: by ecntex.ecn.nl with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <1LSCPL35>; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 12:15:53 +0100 Message-ID: <92D6AAE888CED411A16A00508BB0B827A23F94@ecntex.ecn.nl> From: "Dok, D. van" To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: RE: [pdftex] Bitmaps with transparent background? MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 12:15:53 +0100 > -----Original Message----- > From: Sebastian Tannert [mailto:tannert@physik.hu-berlin.de] > Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2001 12:06 > To: pdftex@tug.org > Subject: [pdftex] Bitmaps with transparent background? > Is it possible to include a bitmap graphic with transparent > background? > And when it is possible, how it is done, I tried with PNG but > this result in black background. > May be PDF does not allow transparent background in bitmaps? > I have a similar question: does pdftex have a concept of `layers' such as would be found in graphical design tools? I've been successful so far putting one thing over another by working bottom-to-top. I have the feeling this works more by accident then by design. In other words, does the PDF specification have a concept of `transparency' and `layers' and, if so, how can it be addressed from pdftex? regards, Dennis van Dok _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 22-Feb-2001 12:40:55-GMT,4144;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA00983 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 05:40:54 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 291612AE8B; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 13:41:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp3.xs4all.nl (smtp3.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.132]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f1MCefm18441 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 13:40:41 +0100 Received: from server-1.pragma-ade.nl (s340-isdn1096.dial.xs4all.nl [194.109.184.72]) by smtp3.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA05661; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 13:40:28 +0100 (CET) Received: from laptop-1 (laptop-1.pragma-ade.nl [200.1.1.25]) by server-1.pragma-ade.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA16514; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 13:17:46 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20010222131329.00b091a0@server-1> X-Sender: hagen@server-1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) To: "Dok, D. van" From: Hans Hagen Subject: RE: [pdftex] Bitmaps with transparent background? Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: <92D6AAE888CED411A16A00508BB0B827A23F94@ecntex.ecn.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 13:13:29 +0100 At 12:15 PM 2/22/01 +0100, Dok, D. van wrote: >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Sebastian Tannert [mailto:tannert@physik.hu-berlin.de] >> Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2001 12:06 >> To: pdftex@tug.org >> Subject: [pdftex] Bitmaps with transparent background? > >> Is it possible to include a bitmap graphic with transparent >> background? >> And when it is possible, how it is done, I tried with PNG but >> this result in black background. >> May be PDF does not allow transparent background in bitmaps? >> > >I have a similar question: does pdftex have a concept of `layers' such as >would be found in graphical design tools? I've been successful so far >putting one thing over another by working bottom-to-top. I have the feeling >this works more by accident then by design. > >In other words, does the PDF specification have a concept of `transparency' >and `layers' and, if so, how can it be addressed from pdftex? In the pdf spec you can find more about that. There are several layers, for instance one for text and one for annotations. If you stack things as you say, they end up like that in the text/graphic layer (indeed bottom up, like in postscript). It is possible to compose the text layer of multiple streams (which is what acrobat does when it add bitmaps below ocr text) but the functionality depends on viewers (like searching in the pure recognized text and showing the bitmaps). The annotation layer is independant and has its own coordinates, and (unfortunately) does not scale. PDF would have been more powerful when annotation refs would have been part of the stream. Transparancy is more a graphic attribute and as soon as the png libs support it, it should work ok in pdftex. One way of manipulating graphics is to play with their attributes, Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma@wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 22-Feb-2001 12:43:56-GMT,2639;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA01042 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 05:43:55 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 2C43E2AEC7; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 13:44:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from plane.elvenkind.com (qn-212-127-141-231.quicknet.nl [212.127.141.231]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f1MCh2m18515 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 13:43:02 +0100 Received: from elvenkind.com (IDENT:siep@oban.home [10.10.0.7]) by plane.elvenkind.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA13340; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 13:42:32 +0100 From: siep@elvenkind.com Message-Id: <200102221242.NAA13340@plane.elvenkind.com> Reply-To: siep@elvenkind.com Subject: Re: [pdftex] Bitmaps with transparent background? To: tannert@physik.hu-berlin.de Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 13:42:29 +0100 (CET) On 22 Feb, Sebastian Tannert wrote: > Hello, > > reading of the manuals and the FAQ of pdfTeX did not gave a answer > to the question: > > Is it possible to include a bitmap graphic with transparent background? > And when it is possible, how it is done, I tried with PNG but > this result in black background. > May be PDF does not allow transparent background in bitmaps? > > Thanks! > > Sebastian > > _______________________________________________ > pdftex mailing list > pdftex@tug.org > http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex Postscript-based illustration programs (also Sketch which is open source and available under Linux) are often capable of applying a clipping path to objects. However, you would probably have to create yourself such a clipping path coinciding with the outline of the bitmap. But this is not a pretty solution. -- Siep Kroonenberg siep@elvenkind.com _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 22-Feb-2001 14:03:54-GMT,2360;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA02784 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 07:03:53 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 3533D2AE8D; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 15:04:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f1ME3im18914 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 15:03:44 +0100 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA05638 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 15:03:32 +0100 (MET) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA19674 for pdftex@tug.org; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 15:03:30 +0100 (MET) From: Han The Thanh To: pdfTeX Subject: Re: [pdftex] Bitmaps with transparent background? Message-ID: <20010222150330.A19320@anxur.fi.muni.cz> References: <92D6AAE888CED411A16A00508BB0B827A23F94@ecntex.ecn.nl> <3.0.6.32.20010222131329.00b091a0@server-1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20010222131329.00b091a0@server-1>; from pragma@wxs.nl on Thu, Feb 22, 2001 at 01:13:29PM +0100 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 15:03:30 +0100 > >In other words, does the PDF specification have a concept of `transparency' > >and `layers' and, if so, how can it be addressed from pdftex? the new spec of pdf is said to include it, but it's not released yet. Of course, this is not supported in pdftex yet. Thanh _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 22-Feb-2001 16:31:55-GMT,2048;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA06977 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 09:31:54 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 62FBC2AE8C; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 17:32:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from magnet.fsu.edu (magnet.fsu.edu [146.201.250.2]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f1MGVFm20016 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 17:31:15 +0100 Received: from [146.201.232.112] (hallmac.magnet.fsu.edu [146.201.232.112]) by magnet.fsu.edu (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA20626 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 11:31:01 -0500 (EST) Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: To: pdftex@tug.org From: Donavan Hall Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Subject: [pdftex] handling epsf and pdf graphics Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 11:31:00 -0500 I often run into this problem. I create a LaTeX document with epsf figures using the epsfig package. Then later I want to make the same LaTeX file into a PDF document with pdftex. What is a good approach to use when including graphics that allows for both LaTeXing and pdftexing a document and have the figures survive without modifying the original LaTeX file? Thanks, Donavan _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 22-Feb-2001 16:37:59-GMT,3124;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA07178 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 09:37:58 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 1FBD82AEAB; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 17:38:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from wizard.ucc.ie (wizard.ucc.ie [143.239.211.92]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f1MGbpm20109 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 17:37:51 +0100 Received: from cs.ucc.ie (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wizard.ucc.ie (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA02911; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 16:37:36 GMT Message-ID: <3A954050.49487C4A@cs.ucc.ie> From: Frank Boehme X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.10 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Donavan Hall Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] handling epsf and pdf graphics References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 16:37:36 +0000 Donavan Hall wrote: > > I often run into this problem. I create a LaTeX document with epsf > figures using the epsfig package. Then later I want to make the same > LaTeX file into a PDF document with pdftex. What is a good approach > to use when including graphics that allows for both LaTeXing and > pdftexing a document and have the figures survive without modifying > the original LaTeX file? \ifx\pdfoutput\undefined \usepackage[dvips]{graphics} \else \usepackage[pdftex]{graphics} \usepackage{type1cm} \fi ... \includegraphics{filename_without_extension} Frank -- Dr Frank Boehme | Email: f.boehme@cs.ucc.ie National University of Ireland, Cork | phone: +353-21-4903163 Dept of Computer Science | fax: +353-21-4903113 Cork, Ireland | _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 22-Feb-2001 16:55:53-GMT,2747;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA07732 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 09:55:53 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 7AFA92AEC7; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 17:56:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from server-7.tower-4.starlabs.net (mail.london-1.starlabs.net [212.125.75.12]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f1MGtgm20240 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 17:55:42 +0100 X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 28053 invoked from network); 22 Feb 2001 16:51:22 -0000 Received: from nagmx1e.nag.co.uk (HELO nag.co.uk) (62.232.54.130) by server-7.tower-4.starlabs.net with SMTP; 22 Feb 2001 16:51:22 -0000 Received: from penguin.nag.co.uk (IDENT:root@penguin.nag.co.uk [192.156.217.14]) by nag.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA17405; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 16:55:26 GMT Message-Id: <200102221651.QAA06688@penguin.nag.co.uk> Received: by penguin.nag.co.uk (8.9.3) id QAA06688; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 16:51:12 GMT From: David Carlisle To: f.boehme@cs.ucc.ie Cc: hall@magnet.fsu.edu, pdftex@tug.org In-reply-to: <3A954050.49487C4A@cs.ucc.ie> (message from Frank Boehme on Thu, 22 Feb 2001 16:37:36 +0000) Subject: Re: [pdftex] handling epsf and pdf graphics References: <3A954050.49487C4A@cs.ucc.ie> Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 16:51:12 GMT \ifx\pdfoutput\undefined \usepackage[dvips]{graphics} \else \usepackage[pdftex]{graphics} \usepackage{type1cm} \fi Or better, just \usepackage{graphics} most distributions have a graphics.cfg file that will automatically select the right option. David _____________________________________________________________________ This message has been checked for all known viruses by Star Internet delivered through the MessageLabs Virus Control Centre. For further information visit http://www.star.net.uk/stats.asp _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 22-Feb-2001 17:00:56-GMT,3252;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA07864 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 10:00:55 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 1153C2AEED; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 18:01:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from magnet.fsu.edu (magnet.fsu.edu [146.201.250.2]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f1MH09m20334 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 18:00:09 +0100 Received: from [146.201.232.112] (hallmac.magnet.fsu.edu [146.201.232.112]) by magnet.fsu.edu (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA23001 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 11:59:56 -0500 (EST) Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3A954050.49487C4A@cs.ucc.ie> References: <3A954050.49487C4A@cs.ucc.ie> To: pdftex@tug.org From: Donavan Hall Subject: Re: [pdftex] handling epsf and pdf graphics Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 11:59:55 -0500 >Donavan Hall wrote: > > > > I often run into this problem. I create a LaTeX document with epsf > > figures using the epsfig package. Then later I want to make the same > > LaTeX file into a PDF document with pdftex. What is a good approach > > to use when including graphics that allows for both LaTeXing and > > pdftexing a document and have the figures survive without modifying > > the original LaTeX file? > >\ifx\pdfoutput\undefined > > >\usepackage[dvips]{graphics} > >\else > > >\usepackage[pdftex]{graphics} > > >\usepackage{type1cm} > >\fi > >... > >\includegraphics{filename_without_extension} Frank- Thanks for the quick response. While this works fine for the pdftexing. I get the following when I run LaTeX: ! LaTeX Error: File `rawdata' not found. See the LaTeX manual or LaTeX Companion for explanation. Type H for immediate help. ... l.212 ^^I\includegraphics{rawdata} ? H I could not locate the file with any of these extensions: .eps,.ps,.eps.gz,.ps.gz,.eps.Z Try typing to proceed. If that doesn't work, type X to quit. ? epsf You want to edit file ceco115dHvA.tex at line 212 Output written on ceco115dHvA.dvi (4 pages, 9764 bytes). Transcript written on ceco115dHvA.log. Memory allocated: 2770778 bytes. Time elapsed: 7.8 seconds. Of course \includegraphics{rawdata.epsf} works with LaTeXing, but defeats the pdftexing. Anything obvious that I am still missing? -Donavan _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 22-Feb-2001 17:09:06-GMT,3053;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA08224 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 10:09:04 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 41F042AE8D; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 18:09:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from wizard.ucc.ie (wizard.ucc.ie [143.239.211.92]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f1MH8pm20413 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 18:08:51 +0100 Received: from cs.ucc.ie (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wizard.ucc.ie (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA03957; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 17:08:39 GMT Message-ID: <3A954797.D5D6FF26@cs.ucc.ie> From: Frank Boehme X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.10 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Donavan Hall Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] handling epsf and pdf graphics References: <3A954050.49487C4A@cs.ucc.ie> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 17:08:39 +0000 Donavan Hall wrote: > Frank- > > Thanks for the quick response. While this works fine for the > pdftexing. I get the following when I run LaTeX: > > ! LaTeX Error: File `rawdata' not found. > > See the LaTeX manual or LaTeX Companion for explanation. > Type H for immediate help. > ... > > l.212 ^^I\includegraphics{rawdata} > > ? H > I could not locate the file with any of these extensions: > .eps,.ps,.eps.gz,.ps.gz,.eps.Z > Try typing to proceed. > If that doesn't work, type X to quit. > ? epsf > You want to edit file ceco115dHvA.tex at line 212 > Output written on ceco115dHvA.dvi (4 pages, 9764 bytes). > Transcript written on ceco115dHvA.log. > > Memory allocated: 2770778 bytes. > Time elapsed: 7.8 seconds. > > Of course \includegraphics{rawdata.epsf} works with LaTeXing, but > defeats the pdftexing. Change the extension of the EPS graphics file from epsf to eps, which is the default for [divps]graphics. Frank -- Dr Frank Boehme | Email: f.boehme@cs.ucc.ie National University of Ireland, Cork | phone: +353-21-4903163 Dept of Computer Science | fax: +353-21-4903113 Cork, Ireland | _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 22-Feb-2001 17:13:06-GMT,2864;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA08326 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 10:13:05 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 095702B616; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 18:10:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from server-9.tower-4.starlabs.net (mail.london-1.starlabs.net [212.125.75.12]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f1MH9Wm20440 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 18:09:33 +0100 X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 24388 invoked from network); 22 Feb 2001 17:05:35 -0000 Received: from nagmx1e.nag.co.uk (HELO nag.co.uk) (62.232.54.130) by server-9.tower-4.starlabs.net with SMTP; 22 Feb 2001 17:05:35 -0000 Received: from penguin.nag.co.uk (IDENT:root@penguin.nag.co.uk [192.156.217.14]) by nag.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA17560; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 17:09:16 GMT Message-Id: <200102221704.RAA06838@penguin.nag.co.uk> Received: by penguin.nag.co.uk (8.9.3) id RAA06838; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 17:04:57 GMT From: David Carlisle To: hall@magnet.fsu.edu Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-reply-to: (message from Donavan Hall on Thu, 22 Feb 2001 11:59:55 -0500) Subject: Re: [pdftex] handling epsf and pdf graphics References: <3A954050.49487C4A@cs.ucc.ie> Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 17:04:57 GMT > Of course \includegraphics{rawdata.epsf} works with LaTeXing, but as shown in the error message .epsf is not one of the default extensions used by the dvips option, but you can easily add a new extension, as shown in the graphics package documentation. something like see \DeclareGraphicsExtensions (to add .epsf to the list of extensions added by default) and \DeclareGraphicsRule (to tell latex that .epsf files are postscript) David _____________________________________________________________________ This message has been checked for all known viruses by Star Internet delivered through the MessageLabs Virus Control Centre. For further information visit http://www.star.net.uk/stats.asp _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 23-Feb-2001 8:35:59-GMT,2468;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA01815 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 01:35:58 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 16F402AE92; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 09:36:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from aleph.net.uniovi.es (aleph.net.uniovi.es [156.35.11.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f1N8Zqm24786 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 09:35:52 +0100 Received: from bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es (bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es [156.35.56.38]) by aleph.net.uniovi.es (PMDF V6.0-24 #45227) with ESMTP id <01K0G13G8EK8008TXO@aleph.net.uniovi.es> for pdftex@tug.org; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 09:35:38 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost (carmenes@localhost) by bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f1N8ZsC14936 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 09:35:54 +0100 From: Ricardo Sanchez Carmenes X-Sender: carmenes@bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es To: pdftex@tug.org Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: [pdftex] Fonts in multiple pdf images Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 09:35:54 +0100 (CET) Hi! Sorry if this has already been asked and replied. Using \pdfximage, I am integrating quit a number of pdf files that consist mainly of text. They all use the same 4 or 5 fonts. However, the resulting file is quite huge, as the same font is incorporated at every instance in the resulting file. Is there a way to avoid this, so that fonts that are already incorporated are not incorporated again with new pdf images that make use of them ? Thanks, Ricardo. _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 23-Feb-2001 19:01:55-GMT,2078;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA16184 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 12:01:54 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 1C7682AE8B; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 20:02:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from magnet.fsu.edu (magnet.fsu.edu [146.201.250.2]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f1NJ1Km32668 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 20:01:20 +0100 Received: from [146.201.232.112] (hallmac.magnet.fsu.edu [146.201.232.112]) by magnet.fsu.edu (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA28097 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 14:01:05 -0500 (EST) Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: To: pdftex@tug.org From: Donavan Hall Subject: Re: [pdftex] handling epsf and pdf graphics Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 14:01:07 -0500 FYI- All the suggestions given by David and Frank worked nicely. I suppose this information exists somewhere, but I wrote up my experiences and put them on my web site. http://magnet.fsu.edu/~hall/docscripting/tex/articles/latexpdf.html dvi and pdf versions of the same file are available from links on http://magnet.fsu.edu/~hall/docscripting/tex/articles/index.html Thanks a lot for your help. -Donavan _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 23-Feb-2001 19:19:53-GMT,2415;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA16720 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 12:19:52 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 7024F2AE8F; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 20:20:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from wizard.ucc.ie (wizard.ucc.ie [143.239.211.92]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f1NJJhm00328 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 20:19:43 +0100 Received: from cs.ucc.ie (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wizard.ucc.ie (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA18096; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 19:19:30 GMT Message-ID: <3A96B7C1.D4AC2AAD@cs.ucc.ie> From: Frank Boehme X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.10 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Donavan Hall , pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] handling epsf and pdf graphics References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 19:19:30 +0000 Donavan Hall wrote: > I suppose this information exists somewhere, Yes, its a FAQ. > http://magnet.fsu.edu/~hall/docscripting/tex/articles/latexpdf.html Lemme quote you: "I have suggested graphicx because it provides the ability to resize your figures during processing." Well, graphics also allows for resizing: \resizebox{arg1}{arg2} (BTW, if argn=!, then you get proportional scaling.) regards, Frank -- Dr Frank Boehme | Email: f.boehme@cs.ucc.ie National University of Ireland, Cork | phone: +353-21-4903163 Dept of Computer Science | fax: +353-21-4903113 Cork, Ireland | _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 23-Feb-2001 21:46:54-GMT,3631;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA20830 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 14:46:53 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 070D42AE8F; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 22:47:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from pretoria.ime.unicamp.br (pretoria.ime.unicamp.br [143.106.22.7]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f1NLksm00934 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 22:46:54 +0100 Received: from ime.unicamp.br (net96144.ime.unicamp.br [143.106.96.144]) by pretoria.ime.unicamp.br (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id SAA12667 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 18:46:37 -0300 (EST) Message-ID: <3A96DBAE.CB98A3C7@ime.unicamp.br> From: margarida X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [pdftex] square root in metapost Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 18:53:01 -0300 Hi, I am having trouble including the square root symbol in a metapost picture. If I process the picture in metapost by itself, everything works fine. The troble arises when trying to use pdflatex to process the metapost commands directly as in the error.tex file below \documentclass{article} \nofiles \begin{document} \input supp-pdf.tex \newwrite\mpfile \immediate \openout\mpfile = \jobname.mp \immediate \write \mpfile { beginfig(0); label.lft (btex $\displaystyle \frac{a-b}{2}$ etex, (1cm,0)); label.top (btex $\sqrt{ab}$ etex, (3cm,0)); endfig; end;} \immediate \closeout \mpfile \immediate \write 18 {mpost \jobname.mp} % call metapost on \jobname.mp Figure: \convertMPtoPDF{\jobname.0}{1}{1} \end{document} The log says This is pdfTeX, Version 3.14159-14f-released-20000525 (CMacTeX) (format=pdflatex 2001.2.23) 23 FEB 2001 18:32 **&pdflatex error.tex (error.tex{/AplHD/CMacTeX^^ca3.6/texmf/pdftex/config/pdftex.cfg} LaTeX2e <2000/06/01> Babel and hyphenation patterns for american, french, german, portuges, nohyphenation, loaded. ----- snip, snip (nonrelevant material, I think) ----- loading : Context Support Macros / Missing ----- snip, snip ----- loading : Context Support Macros / PDF ----- snip, snip ----- ! Use of \@sqrt doesn't match its definition. \IfFileExists #1#2#3->\openin \@inputcheck #1 \ifeof \@inputcheck \ifx \inpu... l.12 end;} ? x Without the square root text the file runs OK. Any help is appreciated. Cheers, Margarida ******************************************************* Margarida P. Mello Dept. of Applied Math. 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Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 12:15:22 +0100 (CET) Hi, I'm using LaTeX and pdflatex on a document, I need to use bouth programs (so that I would have html, dvi, txt, pdf and ps) on the same source code, how can I make pdflatex produce a list of bookmarks wich is shown on the left side of the acrobat reader? (and is it possible to make thumbnails to?) Please make it simple, I'm only a beginner with tex-latex. -°) LINUX /\\ is BEST !!!!!!! _\_V-- the (Jan Keirse: jan.keirse@mailandnews.com Tel: +32 51 22 11 82) _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 24-Feb-2001 14:53:53-GMT,2642;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA10189 for ; Sat, 24 Feb 2001 07:53:52 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id AEF012AE90; Sat, 24 Feb 2001 15:54:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail1.ox.ac.uk [129.67.1.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f1OErBm04263 for ; Sat, 24 Feb 2001 15:53:11 +0100 Received: from heraldgate2.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.50] helo=frontend2.herald.ox.ac.uk ident=exim) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #3) id 14Wg48-0000Nn-00; Sat, 24 Feb 2001 14:52:56 +0000 Received: from max69.public.ox.ac.uk ([192.76.27.69] helo=spqr2.oucs.ox.ac.uk ident=rahtz) by frontend2.herald.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 14Wg48-0007pE-00; Sat, 24 Feb 2001 14:52:56 +0000 X-Mailer: emacs 20.6.1 (via feedmail 8 Q); VM 6.86 under Emacs 20.6.1 From: "Sebastian Rahtz" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14999.50117.900693.567717@spqr2.oucs.ox.ac.uk> To: jan@pandora.be Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] I want bookmarks! In-Reply-To: References: Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 14:23:01 +0000 Jan Keirse writes: > Hi, I'm using LaTeX and pdflatex on a document, I need to use bouth > programs (so that I would have html, dvi, txt, pdf and ps) on the same > source code, how can I make pdflatex produce a list of bookmarks wich is > shown on the left side of the acrobat reader? (and is it possible to make > thumbnails to?) Please make it simple, I'm only a beginner with tex-latex. \usepackage[bookmarks=true]{hyperref} for the thumbnails, look for the utility "thumbpdf" on CTAN sebastian _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 25-Feb-2001 20:28:53-GMT,2391;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA11714 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2001 13:28:52 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 3A3AC2AE8B; Sun, 25 Feb 2001 21:29:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from jakorasia.nic.fi (jakorasia.nic.fi [212.38.224.80]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f1PKSkm15001 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2001 21:28:46 +0100 Received: from iki.fi (netti-1-70.dyn.nic.fi [212.38.225.70]) by jakorasia.nic.fi (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA00908; Sun, 25 Feb 2001 22:28:26 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <3A996AE9.3343B012@iki.fi> From: Kalle Tuulos X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.org, wilkenin@math.lbl.gov Subject: Re: [pdftex] corrupted pdf image Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 22:28:25 +0200 Jon Wilkening wrote: > > Hello, > I am having a problem with pdflatex (I have several pdf images > that look nice when viewed with acroread but become corrupted > when they are included in my latax document). I'm using the > version included in the redhat 7.0 tetex distribution, > > pdfTeX (Web2C 7.3.1) 3.14159-0.13d > kpathsea version 3.3.1 Hello Jon, I have exactly same problem. My LaTeX-installation is MikTeX 2.0 (in Windows 95) which has pdftex version 0.14f. I have asked about this problem from ghostscript bug e-mail list also if it would be bug in eps2pdf conversion, but I haven't still got an answer. If you find any solution, please tell me also :-) BR, - Kalle _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 25-Feb-2001 21:00:52-GMT,2860;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA12327 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2001 14:00:51 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id D3F732AE92; Sun, 25 Feb 2001 22:01:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from math.lbl.gov (math.lbl.gov [128.3.7.22]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f1PL0Im15159 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2001 22:00:18 +0100 Received: from ohio.lbl.gov (ohio.lbl.gov [128.3.3.152]) by math.lbl.gov (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id f1PKxnG24431; Sun, 25 Feb 2001 12:59:49 -0800 (PST) From: Jon Wilkening X-Sender: wilkenin@ohio.lbl.gov To: Kalle Tuulos Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] corrupted pdf image In-Reply-To: <3A996AE9.3343B012@iki.fi> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 12:59:54 -0800 (PST) Hi Kalle, the problem was solved for me when I updated pdftex to 0.14f. Try using epstopdf instead of eps2pdf. You can get epstopdf from the pdftex support page http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex. hope this helps, Jon On Sun, 25 Feb 2001, Kalle Tuulos wrote: > Jon Wilkening wrote: > > > > Hello, > > I am having a problem with pdflatex (I have several pdf images > > that look nice when viewed with acroread but become corrupted > > when they are included in my latax document). I'm using the > > version included in the redhat 7.0 tetex distribution, > > > > pdfTeX (Web2C 7.3.1) 3.14159-0.13d > > kpathsea version 3.3.1 > > Hello Jon, > > I have exactly same problem. My LaTeX-installation is MikTeX 2.0 (in > Windows 95) which has pdftex version 0.14f. I have asked about this > problem from ghostscript bug e-mail list also if it would be bug in > eps2pdf conversion, but I haven't still got an answer. > > If you find any solution, please tell me also :-) > > BR, > - Kalle > _______________________________________________ > pdftex mailing list > pdftex@tug.org > http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex > _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 26-Feb-2001 9:34:53-GMT,3226;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA27065 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 02:34:51 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 95E0D2AE8B; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 10:35:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp3.xs4all.nl (smtp3.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.132]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f1Q9YRm18065 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 10:34:27 +0100 Received: from server-1.pragma-ade.nl (s340-modem3115.dial.xs4all.nl [194.109.172.43]) by smtp3.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA11158; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 10:34:12 +0100 (CET) Received: from laptop-1 (laptop-1.pragma-ade.nl [200.1.1.25]) by server-1.pragma-ade.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA00680; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 10:29:50 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20010226102438.00b4c560@server-1> X-Sender: hagen@server-1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) To: margarida From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: [pdftex] square root in metapost Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: <3A96DBAE.CB98A3C7@ime.unicamp.br> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 10:24:38 +0100 At 06:53 PM 2/23/01 -0300, margarida wrote: >Hi, > >I am having trouble including the square root symbol in a >metapost picture. If I process the picture in metapost by >itself, everything works fine. The troble arises when trying >to use pdflatex to process the metapost commands directly as >in the error.tex file below Looks like unwanted expansion. You can try \string\sqrt and \string\frac in you example. >Without the square root text the file runs OK. Any help is >appreciated. If you have a bit recent version of context, you can say: \starttext \setupMPpage[offset=1pt] \startMPpage label.lft (btex $\displaystyle \frac{a-b}{2}$ etex, (1cm,0)) ; label.top (btex $\sqrt{ab}$ etex, (3cm,0)) ; \stopMPpage \stoptext and get a stand alone graphic, that can be included in latex. (more on that in the mtafun manual). I will send you the pdf off list Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma@wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 26-Feb-2001 12:05:53-GMT,2781;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA29646 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 05:05:52 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id ED8D12AE92; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 13:06:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from uscmail.usc.es (uscmail.usc.es [193.144.75.8]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f1QC58m18953 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 13:05:08 +0100 Received: from fmares.usc.es (fmares.usc.es [193.144.64.164]) by uscmail.usc.es (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA28407 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 13:04:54 +0100 (MET) Received: from fmmeteo.usc.es (fmgea.usc.es [193.144.64.239]) by fmares.usc.es (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA01445 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 13:04:50 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <3A9A4664.24123AD@fmmeteo.usc.es> From: Irene =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sendi=F1a?= Nadal Organization: GFNL: http://fmmeteo.usc.es/ X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.7 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: [pdftex] Links at table of contents Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 13:04:52 +0100 Hi, I have two problems in using pdflatex that I would like someone could tell me how to fixe them. The first one is how to make not linkable the table of contents. I already have the bookmarks option to navigate through the document. The second one is that in the bookmarks file, levels below \subsection, that is \subsubsection, appear at the same position as the previous level of sectioning. Actually, they appear correctly in the toc file. I hope someone could help me. Thanks, -- Irene -------------------------------------------------------------- Irene Sendiña Nadal < mailto:irene@fmmeteo.usc.es> Grupo de Fisica non Lineal Fax/tel: +34 981522089 15706 Campus Sur, Santiago de Compostela -------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 26-Feb-2001 13:29:53-GMT,1959;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA01145 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 06:29:52 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id AA2612AE95; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 14:30:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from jakorasia.nic.fi (jakorasia.nic.fi [212.38.224.80]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f1QDTom19394 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 14:29:50 +0100 Received: from iki.fi (netti-1-261.dyn.nic.fi [212.38.226.6]) by jakorasia.nic.fi (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA01154 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 15:29:29 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <3A9A5A35.A9D49638@iki.fi> From: Kalle Tuulos X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] corrupted pdf image References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 15:29:25 +0200 [about corrupted PDF images in pdflatex output] > the problem was solved for me when I updated pdftex to 0.14f. Strange... Is there any (public) bug database for pdftex? BR, - Kalle _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 27-Feb-2001 0:07:53-GMT,2738;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA20681 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 17:07:52 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 562352AE8C; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 01:08:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.epost.de (mail.epost.de [64.39.38.70] (may be forged)) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f1R07Um22270 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 01:07:30 +0100 Received: from B8711.pppool.de (213.7.135.17) by mail.epost.de (5.5.020) id 3A997E8700009A79 for pdftex@tug.org; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 01:06:45 +0100 From: Aiko Huckauf X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.49) UNREG / CD5BF9353B3B7091 Reply-To: Aiko Huckauf X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <92217768.20010227010720@epost.de> To: pdftex@tug.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [pdftex] clipping of pdf-graphics Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 01:07:20 +0100 Hi, yesterday I have upgraded from pdfTeX 0.14d (included in MiKTeX 1.20e) to pdfTeX 0.14f (included in MiKTeX 2). Afterwards the following problem occured: In my thesis I have lots of graphics included as pdf-files. With my old system, I had no problems to clip these graphics by use of the viewport command, for example \includegraphics*[viewport=21 379 569 793,width=\textwidth]{Fig1.pdf} But with the new system the graphics are obviously _not_ clipped: in the log-file I found the explicit message "no clipping support in pdfTeX" which never occured before, as long as I used pdfTeX 0.14d. The pdf-graphics were produced from the corresponding eps-files with Ghostscript 6.50, and for the viewport command I used the bounding box parameters of the eps-file. Once again: With pdfTeX 0.14d it worked fine! Can anybody give me a hint why it doesn't work any longer with the new pdfTeX version? Or is there another way to clip pdf-graphics with pdfTeX 0.14f? Aiko Huckauf _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 27-Feb-2001 9:36:52-GMT,2541;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA02712 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 02:36:51 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 9C7852AE8F; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 10:37:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de (waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.4.42]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f1R9a3m24490 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 10:36:03 +0100 Received: from ls1sol02.cs.uni-dortmund.de (ls1sol02.cs.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.56.62]) by waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de with ESMTP id KAA20412; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 10:35:47 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <200102270935.KAA08359@ls1sol02.cs.uni-dortmund.de> Received: from ls1sol02 (ls1sol02 [129.217.56.62]) by ls1sol02.cs.uni-dortmund.de id KAA08359; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 10:35:47 +0100 (MET) From: Stephan.Lehmke@cs.uni-dortmund.de Reply-To: Stephan.Lehmke@cs.uni-dortmund.de Subject: Re: [pdftex] clipping of pdf-graphics To: pdftex@tug.org Cc: Aiko.Huckauf@epost.de MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: XQZLqEnmuGfYrIWin58jCg== Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 10:35:46 +0100 (MET) Aiko Huckauf wrote on Tue, 27 Feb 2001 01:07:20 +0100: > > But with the new system the graphics are obviously _not_ clipped: in > the log-file I found the explicit message > > "no clipping support in pdfTeX" > > which never occured before, as long as I used pdfTeX 0.14d. Maybe you have a new pdftex, but an old pdftex.def? Grab a new one from http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/pdftex.def and try what happens. regards Stephan -- Stephan Lehmke Stephan.Lehmke@cs.uni-dortmund.de Fachbereich Informatik, LS I Tel. +49 231 755 6434 Universitaet Dortmund FAX 6555 D-44221 Dortmund, Germany _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 27-Feb-2001 10:00:52-GMT,2402;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA03131 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 03:00:51 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 90D7F2AE99; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 11:01:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.epost.de (mail.epost.de [64.39.38.72] (may be forged)) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f1RA0Pm24707 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 11:00:25 +0100 Received: from B876a.pppool.de (213.7.135.106) by mail.epost.de (5.5.020) id 3A98E2AC000148E1 for pdftex@tug.org; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 11:00:05 +0100 From: Aiko Huckauf X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.49) UNREG / CD5BF9353B3B7091 Reply-To: Aiko Huckauf X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <34953811.20010227110007@epost.de> To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] clipping of pdf-graphics In-reply-To: <200102270935.KAA08359@ls1sol02.cs.uni-dortmund.de> References: <200102270935.KAA08359@ls1sol02.cs.uni-dortmund.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 11:00:07 +0100 >> But with the new system the graphics are obviously _not_ clipped: in >> the log-file I found the explicit message >> >> "no clipping support in pdfTeX" >> >> which never occured before, as long as I used pdfTeX 0.14d. > Maybe you have a new pdftex, but an old pdftex.def? > Grab a new one from http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/pdftex.def > and try what happens. Yes, indeed, it was that simple. With the new pdftex.def everything's working fine again. Thank you very much for the hint! Aiko Huckauf _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 27-Feb-2001 11:42:53-GMT,6399;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA04993 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 04:42:51 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 6A73E2AE8E; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 12:43:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from uscmail.usc.es (uscmail.usc.es [193.144.75.8]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f1RBgUm25256 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 12:42:30 +0100 Received: from fmares.usc.es (fmares.usc.es [193.144.64.164]) by uscmail.usc.es (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA07528 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 12:42:14 +0100 (MET) Received: from fmmeteo.usc.es (fmgea.usc.es [193.144.64.239]) by fmares.usc.es (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA28247 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 12:42:11 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <3A9B9294.D185760A@fmmeteo.usc.es> From: Irene =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sendi=F1a?= Nadal Reply-To: Thierry Bouche Organization: GFNL: http://fmmeteo.usc.es/ X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.7 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdflist Subject: Re: [pdftex] Links at table of contents References: <3A9A4664.24123AD@fmmeteo.usc.es> <200102261243.NAA14359@mozart.ujf-grenoble.Fr> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------F430CAB7DBD4EBC1411DCA99" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 12:42:12 +0100 --------------F430CAB7DBD4EBC1411DCA99 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Hi, > > » The first one is how to make not linkable the table of contents. I > » already have > » the bookmarks option to navigate through the document. > > this is automatic, you can make page numbers active instead of tac > entries with the option linktocpage, but that's all. > Ok. This works. > > Why wouldn't you want that anyway? It is a matter of taste :-). > > » The second one is that in the bookmarks file, levels below \subsection, > » that > » is \subsubsection, appear at the same position as the previous level of > » sectioning. Actually, they appear correctly in the toc file. > > Normally, these are correct. > > \def\toclevel@paragraph{4} > \def\toclevel@subparagraph{5} > > If you define your own sectionning commands below subsection, you need > to define their \toclevel@ (\subsection is 3, etc.) > > Hope this helps... I could not fix this. If I look to the hiperref.sty file, there I can modified the toclevels. They are defined as 0,1,2,3,4... for chapter/section/subsection/ subsubsection/... And if I change some of them and run pdflatex, the bookmarks levels change. For example, if I put them to 0, all the entries are aligned to the left, etc. But it seems that level 4 behaves as level 3... I should say that I am not an expert in latex. -- Irene -------------------------------------------------------------- Irene Sendiña Nadal < mailto:irene@fmmeteo.usc.es> Grupo de Fisica non Lineal Fax/tel: +34 981522089 15706 Campus Sur, Santiago de Compostela -------------------------------------------------------------- --------------F430CAB7DBD4EBC1411DCA99 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit  
Hi,

» The first one is how to make not linkable the table of contents.  I
» already have
» the bookmarks option to navigate through the document.

this is automatic, you can make page numbers active instead of tac
entries with the option linktocpage, but that's all.
 

Ok. This works.
 
Why wouldn't you want that anyway?
It is a matter of taste :-).
 
» The second one is that in the bookmarks file, levels below  \subsection,
» that
» is \subsubsection, appear at the same position as the previous level of
» sectioning. Actually, they appear correctly in the toc file.

Normally, these are correct.

\def\toclevel@paragraph{4}
\def\toclevel@subparagraph{5}

If you define your own sectionning commands below subsection, you need
to define their \toclevel@ (\subsection is 3, etc.)

Hope this helps...

    I could not fix this. If I look to the hiperref.sty file, there I can modified the
toclevels. They are defined as 0,1,2,3,4... for chapter/section/subsection/
subsubsection/... And if I change some of them and run pdflatex, the
bookmarks levels change. For example, if I put them to 0, all the entries
are aligned to the left, etc. But it seems that level 4 behaves as level 3...
I should say that I am not an expert in latex.
  
-- 
        Irene
--------------------------------------------------------------        
 Irene Sendiña Nadal            < mailto:irene@fmmeteo.usc.es>    
 Grupo de Fisica non Lineal             Fax/tel: +34 981522089           
 15706 Campus Sur, Santiago de Compostela           
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  --------------F430CAB7DBD4EBC1411DCA99-- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 27-Feb-2001 13:28:53-GMT,2965;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA07040 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 06:28:51 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 284E82AE8C; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 14:29:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f1RDShm25675 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 14:28:44 +0100 Received: from remote142-133.home.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.142.133] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 14XkAp-0003K3-00; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 14:28:16 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.20010227130948.0ac7e370@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) To: Irene =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sendi=F1a?= Nadal , pdftex@tug.org From: Heiko Oberdiek Subject: Re: [pdftex] Links at table of contents In-Reply-To: <3A9A4664.24123AD@fmmeteo.usc.es> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.daimi.au.dk id f1RDShm25675 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 13:09:48 +0100 At 13:04 26.02.2001 +0100, Irene Sendiña Nadal wrote: > >The first one is how to make not linkable the table of contents. I >already have >the bookmarks option to navigate through the document. What is the problem with a linkable table of contents? * You can make invisible links (zero border or black link color) * You can make the page number to a link instead with option "linktocpage". * The links can be disabled with environment "NoHyper". >The second one is that in the bookmarks file, levels below \subsection, >that >is \subsubsection, appear at the same position as the previous level of >sectioning. Actually, they appear correctly in the toc file. Perhaps there is a missing \subsection level? Do you use an uptodate hyperref? This works for me: \documentclass{article} \usepackage{hyperref} \begin{document} \section{section A} \subsection{subsection B} \subsubsection{subsubsection C} \end{document} Yours sincerely Heiko _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 27-Feb-2001 15:51:51-GMT,2823;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA10416 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 08:51:50 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id D2E932AE8C; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 16:52:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f1RFpXm26305 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 16:51:33 +0100 Received: from remote142-176.home.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.142.176] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 14XmPC-0005QR-00; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 16:51:15 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.20010227143420.29c7c5b6@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) To: Irene =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sendi=F1a?= Nadal , pdflist From: Heiko Oberdiek Subject: Re: [pdftex] Links at table of contents In-Reply-To: <3A9B9294.D185760A@fmmeteo.usc.es> References: <3A9A4664.24123AD@fmmeteo.usc.es> <200102261243.NAA14359@mozart.ujf-grenoble.Fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.daimi.au.dk id f1RFpXm26305 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 14:34:20 +0100 At 12:42 27.02.2001 +0100, Irene Sendiña Nadal wrote: > I could not fix this. If I look to the hiperref.sty file, there I can >modified the >toclevels. They are defined as 0,1,2,3,4... for chapter/section/subsection/ >subsubsection/... And if I change some of them and run pdflatex, the >bookmarks levels change. For example, if I put them to 0, all the entries >are aligned to the left, etc. But it seems that level 4 behaves as level 3... There are many reasons, why it works and why not. So the best is to make a minimal test file, that shows the problem, but that does not contain packages and stuff, that are not necessary to produce the problem. Yours sincerely Heiko PS: Please no HTML. _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 27-Feb-2001 22:45:52-GMT,2373;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA23480 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 15:45:50 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 110B02AEAB; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 23:46:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from jakorasia.nic.fi (jakorasia.nic.fi [212.38.224.80]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f1RMjvm28131 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 23:45:57 +0100 Received: from iki.fi (netti-1-14.dyn.nic.fi [212.38.225.14]) by jakorasia.nic.fi (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA24675; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 00:45:23 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <3A9C2DC5.879435AE@iki.fi> From: Kalle Tuulos X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bug-gs@ghostscript.com, miktex@dsts.dk, pdftex@tug.org References: <3A95452B.2B12EABC@iki.fi> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [pdftex] Re: Problems in pdf-images in pdflatex output Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 00:44:21 +0200 I wrote: > Have you any idea, why images included into LaTeX-document are > somewhat broken in PDF output when viewed with Acrobat 4.0? If same > file viewed with GSView, everything looks ok. My installation is > following: MikTeX 2.0 (/w pdflatex 0.14f) + Ghostscript 6.50. Some more information: if viewed with Acrobat 4.05, included PDF images look fine. So this seems to be some already corrected bug in Adobe Acrobat Reader. But, still I would like to have a work-around because the recipients for my document use version 4.0 and I can not affect the version they use. BR, - Kalle _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 28-Feb-2001 0:34:52-GMT,2166;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA26342 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 17:34:51 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 54DAC2AEA1; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 01:35:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from austin.jhcloos.com (austin.jhcloos.com [206.224.83.202]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f1S0YYm28549 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 01:34:35 +0100 Received: by austin.jhcloos.com (Postfix, from userid 500) id 0CB1E2B200; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 00:34:19 +0000 (UTC) To: pdftex@tug.org From: "James H. Cloos Jr." Message-ID: Lines: 18 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [pdftex] crop marks off page ? Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: 27 Feb 2001 18:34:18 -0600 I'm sure this has been asked before, but I cannot find a ref to it in my archives (and would certainly have saved it if I saw it....). Is it possible to have crop marks outside of the specified page dimensions such that they do not display when the pdf is read in reader but do show up when printed to eg letter or a4 paper given that fit to page is turned off and that the specified page size is less than eg letter or a4? If so, how? Thanks. -JimC -- James H. Cloos, Jr. 1024D/ED7DAEA6 E9E9 F828 61A4 6EA9 0F2B 63E7 997A 9F17 ED7D AEA6 _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 28-Feb-2001 13:26:52-GMT,1943;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA11725 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 06:26:51 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 0F3A02AE8F; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 14:27:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from jupiter.fsci.fuk.kindai.ac.jp (jupiter.fsci.fuk.kindai.ac.jp [157.13.51.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f1SDQ4m31507 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 14:26:05 +0100 Received: by jupiter.fsci.fuk.kindai.ac.jp (8.9.3+3.2W/3.7W-kfsci) id WAA01367; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 22:28:05 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <200102281328.WAA01367@jupiter.fsci.fuk.kindai.ac.jp> To: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailer: Mew version 1.70 on Emacs 19.34.1 / Mule 2.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Akira Kakuto Subject: [pdftex] Version string (14h-pretest-20010126) Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 22:28:04 +0900 I think line 35 of pdftex.ch : @d pdftex_version_string=='13h-pretest-20010126' {current pdf\TeX\ version} should be @d pdftex_version_string=='14h-pretest-20010126' {current pdf\TeX\ version} -- Akira Kakuto _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 28-Feb-2001 13:54:52-GMT,3502;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA12253 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 06:54:51 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 21DBE2AE8F; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 14:55:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from lester.tcs.informatik.uni-muenchen.de (lester.tcs.informatik.uni-muenchen.de [129.187.228.109]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f1SDsUm31693 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 14:54:30 +0100 Received: from horace.tcs.informatik.uni-muenchen.de (root@horace.tcs.informatik.uni-muenchen.de [129.187.228.92]) by lester.tcs.informatik.uni-muenchen.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA22870 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 14:54:13 +0100 Received: from horace.tcs.informatik.uni-muenchen.de (backnet@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by horace.tcs.informatik.uni-muenchen.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA13545 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 14:54:13 +0100 Message-Id: <200102281354.OAA13545@horace.tcs.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: pdftex@tug.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 From: Rolf Backofen (2) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.daimi.au.dk id f1SDsUm31693 Subject: [pdftex] pdflatex+seminar+overlay Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 14:54:13 +0100 Hello, I'm trying to use the seminar documentclass with pdflatex, and everything works well except the overlay environment of seminar. There is only one single page produced containing all overlays in one. Is there a replacement for semlayer that works with pdflatex and seminar, or what else must be done? Here is a short example texfile showing the problem. I would be grateful for any hints. Rolf \documentclass[a4,semhelv,semlayer]{seminar} \usepackage[pdftex]{color,graphicx} \usepackage[pdftex]{basiccolors} %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% %%%%% Fix for pdflatex \newif\ifpdf \ifx\pdfoutput\undefined \pdffalse % we are not running PDFLaTeX \else \pdfoutput=1 % we are running PDFLaTeX \pdftrue \fi \ifpdf \pdfpagewidth=297truemm % your milage may vary.... % ^^^^ \pdfpageheight=210truemm \pdfhorigin=1truein % default value(?), but doesn't work without \pdfvorigin=1truein % default value(?), but doesn't work without \fi %%% End of fix %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% \begin{document} \DeclareGraphicsExtensions{.jpg,.png,.pdf} \begin{slide} \begin{itemize} \item This should be on the first slide of the overlay \item \begin{overlay}{1} and this should be on the first overlay \end{overlay} \end{itemize} \end{slide} \end{document} _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 28-Feb-2001 15:12:52-GMT,2369;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA13830 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 08:12:51 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 457822AE97; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 16:13:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f1SFCVm32026 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 16:12:31 +0100 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA10956; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 16:12:14 +0100 (MET) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA03512; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 16:12:10 +0100 (MET) From: Han The Thanh To: Akira Kakuto Cc: pdfTeX Subject: Re: [pdftex] Version string (14h-pretest-20010126) Message-ID: <20010228161210.A3049@anxur.fi.muni.cz> References: <200102281328.WAA01367@jupiter.fsci.fuk.kindai.ac.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <200102281328.WAA01367@jupiter.fsci.fuk.kindai.ac.jp>; from kakuto@fsci.fuk.kindai.ac.jp on Wed, Feb 28, 2001 at 10:28:04PM +0900 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 16:12:10 +0100 > I think line 35 of pdftex.ch : > @d pdftex_version_string=='13h-pretest-20010126' {current pdf\TeX\ version} > should be > @d pdftex_version_string=='14h-pretest-20010126' {current pdf\TeX\ version} I fixed this typo (reported by Fabrice) in the latest source (at texlive server). Thanh _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 28-Feb-2001 16:10:51-GMT,2761;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA15475 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 09:10:50 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 28D1A2AE8F; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 17:11:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from postfix1-2.free.fr (postfix1-2.free.fr [213.228.0.130]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f1SGAPm32385 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 17:10:25 +0100 Received: from [213.228.7.191] (nas-cbv-1-6-209.dial.proxad.net [213.228.6.209]) by postfix1-2.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 402481028E4; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 17:09:38 +0100 (CET) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: michel.bovani@pop.free.fr Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <200101261221.NAA12498@anxur.fi.muni.cz> References: <200101261221.NAA12498@anxur.fi.muni.cz> To: Han The Thanh , pdftex@tug.org (pdfTeX) From: Michel Bovani Subject: Re: [pdftex] pdftex update Cc: tom@kiffe.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 17:06:14 +0100 At 13:21 +0100 26/01/01, Han The Thanh wrote: >Hi, > >I released another pretest of pdftex (20010126) at >ftp://ftp.cstug.cz/pub/tex/local/cstug/thanh/pdftex > I have a font problem with this version (pdf figures fonts). Here is the main test file : \documentclass{article} \usepackage[pdftex]{graphicx} \begin{document} \includegraphics{fig0} \end{document} I obtain fig0.pdf by 1 - latexing fig0.tex \documentclass{article} \pagestyle{empty} \begin{document} A \end{document} 2- dvips -E -o fig0.eps fig0.dvi 3- running epstopdf or distiller (same result) on fig0.eps The main file then works perfectly with 14g pretest but *not* with 14h (pdftex quits, log file is empty...). BTW if I replace "A" in fig0.tex by "\rule{5mm}{5mm}" 014h works perfectly, reason why I thing to a font inclusion problem... It's the CMacTeX version of 014h. -- Michel Bovani _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 1-Mar-2001 2:52:51-GMT,1981;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA03805 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 19:52:49 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 13F9C2AE8C; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 03:53:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from danube.river-valley.com ([210.212.246.92]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f212qPm02720 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 03:52:26 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by danube.river-valley.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f218PuJ04749 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 08:25:57 GMT From: Radhakrishnan C V To: pdfTeX In-Reply-To: <20010228161210.A3049@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [pdftex] [Off-topic] Software Freedom Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 08:25:54 +0000 (/etc/localtime) Those who love the software freedom as defined by the Free Software Foundation may kindly visit: http://www.freedevelopers.net/freedomdec wherein they can sign the Declaration of Software Freedom along with Richard Stallman and be part of it. Radhakrishnan _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 2-Mar-2001 14:09:50-GMT,3931;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA21350 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 07:09:49 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id EC1F52AE8C; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 15:10:00 +0100 (CET) Received: from pretoria.ime.unicamp.br (pretoria.ime.unicamp.br [143.106.22.7]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f22E9mm11814 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 15:09:48 +0100 Received: from ime.unicamp.br (net96144.ime.unicamp.br [143.106.96.144]) by pretoria.ime.unicamp.br (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id LAA20787; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 11:09:25 -0300 (EST) Message-ID: <3A9FAB12.86E55432@ime.unicamp.br> From: margarida X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Hans Hagen Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] square root in metapost References: <3.0.6.32.20010226102438.00b4c560@server-1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 11:16:01 -0300 Hi, thank you very much for the help. The \string solution worked out well. Unfortunately I don't know of a context version for the Macintosh and am not knowledgeable enough to create one from the source, so I can't use the second suggestion. One thing I noticed is that if I run epstodpf on the ps file created by metapost I loose the text. Is there a workaround for this problem? Best regards, Margarida Hans Hagen wrote: > At 06:53 PM 2/23/01 -0300, margarida wrote: > >Hi, > > > >I am having trouble including the square root symbol in a > >metapost picture. If I process the picture in metapost by > >itself, everything works fine. The troble arises when trying > >to use pdflatex to process the metapost commands directly as > >in the error.tex file below > > Looks like unwanted expansion. You can try \string\sqrt and \string\frac in > you example. > > >Without the square root text the file runs OK. Any help is > >appreciated. > > If you have a bit recent version of context, you can say: > > \starttext > > \setupMPpage[offset=1pt] > > \startMPpage > label.lft (btex $\displaystyle \frac{a-b}{2}$ etex, (1cm,0)) ; > label.top (btex $\sqrt{ab}$ etex, (3cm,0)) ; > \stopMPpage > > \stoptext > > and get a stand alone graphic, that can be included in latex. (more on that > in the mtafun manual). > > I will send you the pdf off list > > Hans > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma@wxs.nl > Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands > tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ******************************************************* Margarida P. Mello Dept. of Applied Math. Tel.: +55 19 3289-4547 (home) IMECC - Unicamp +55 19 3788-5966 (work) Fax: +55 19 3289-1466 e-mail: margarid@ime.unicamp.br ******************************************************* _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 2-Mar-2001 17:20:50-GMT,2261;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA26910 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 10:20:49 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 7709A2AE8C; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 18:21:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from web1610.mail.yahoo.com (web1610.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.164]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f22HKnm13381 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 18:20:49 +0100 Received: (qmail 17860 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Mar 2001 17:20:32 -0000 Message-ID: <20010302172032.17859.qmail@web1610.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [128.3.132.186] by web1610.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 02 Mar 2001 09:20:32 PST From: "Nigel W. Moriarty" To: pdftex@tug.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [pdftex] stymied Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 09:20:32 -0800 (PST) pdflatex runs on some simple files but This is pdfTeX, Version 3.14159-13d (Web2C 7.3.1) (Fatal format file error; I'm stymied) on a more complicated file that worked yesterday. Is it because I changed the file somehow or have I not set up correctly. Nigel ===== --- Nigel Moriarty | Office:(510) 643 2468 242 Hesse Hall | Fax :(510) 642 1850 University of California at Berkeley| Berkeley CA 94720-1740 |moriarty@me.berkeley.edu __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 3-Mar-2001 23:51:49-GMT,2376;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA10420 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 16:51:48 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 1B2092AE8B; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 00:52:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f23NpXm19457 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 00:51:34 +0100 Received: from remote142-171.home.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.142.171] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 14ZLnq-0002h6-00; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 00:51:11 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.20010303223138.3d3ffa2e@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) To: Michel Bovani , Han The Thanh , pdftex@tug.org (pdfTeX) From: Heiko Oberdiek Subject: Re: [pdftex] pdftex update Cc: tom@kiffe.com In-Reply-To: References: <200101261221.NAA12498@anxur.fi.muni.cz> <200101261221.NAA12498@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 22:31:38 +0100 At 17:06 28.02.2001 +0100, Michel Bovani wrote: >2- dvips -E -o fig0.eps fig0.dvi With standard setup you are including the CM fonts in pk format (bitmap). It is better to include the Type1 format of the CM fonts. Many TeX distributions provide options for this purpose, eg: -Pcmz -Pamz -Ppdf -Pwww ... Yours sincerely Heiko _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 4-Mar-2001 11:00:50-GMT,2675;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA24298 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 04:00:49 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 4553A2AE97; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 12:01:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from lantana.wanadoo.fr (smtp-rt-8.wanadoo.fr [193.252.19.51]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f24B07m26815 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 12:00:07 +0100 Received: from mahonia.wanadoo.fr (193.252.19.58) by lantana.wanadoo.fr; 4 Mar 2001 11:59:49 +0100 Received: from [194.2.149.177] (194.2.149.177) by mahonia.wanadoo.fr; 4 Mar 2001 11:59:37 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: michel.bovani@pop.wanadoo.fr Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.16.20010303223138.3d3ffa2e@localhost> References: <200101261221.NAA12498@anxur.fi.muni.cz> <200101261221.NAA12498@anxur.fi.muni.cz> <3.0.1.16.20010303223138.3d3ffa2e@localhost> To: Heiko Oberdiek , Han The Thanh , pdftex@tug.org (pdfTeX) From: Michel Bovani Subject: Re: [pdftex] pdftex update Cc: tom@kiffe.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 11:59:34 +0100 At 22:31 +0100 3/03/01, Heiko Oberdiek wrote: >At 17:06 28.02.2001 +0100, Michel Bovani wrote: > >>2- dvips -E -o fig0.eps fig0.dvi > >With standard setup you are including the CM fonts in >pk format (bitmap). It is better to include the >Type1 format of the CM fonts. Yes, of course. I *don't* use standard setup, I have p +bsr.map in my config.ps (I hate pk format, in fact:) I also try to include other type1 fonts, like adobe garamond, in a pdf image, in to include this image with pdftex 014h 20010126 : it did not work again... Have somebody try my test file with this version of pdftex, especially with cmactex 3.7 beta ? -- Michel Bovani _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 4-Mar-2001 20:59:48-GMT,2690;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA06590 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 13:59:47 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 164502AE8B; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 22:00:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail2.ox.ac.uk [163.1.2.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f24KxXm28951 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 21:59:33 +0100 Received: from heraldgate2.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.50] helo=frontend2.herald.ox.ac.uk ident=exim) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 14Zfaz-0004F0-00; Sun, 04 Mar 2001 20:59:13 +0000 Received: from max43.public.ox.ac.uk ([192.76.27.43] helo=spqr2.oucs.ox.ac.uk ident=rahtz) by frontend2.herald.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 14Zfaz-0007bn-00; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 20:59:14 +0000 X-Mailer: emacs 20.6.1 (via feedmail 8 Q); VM 6.86 under Emacs 20.6.1 From: "Sebastian Rahtz" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15010.41130.271977.596581@spqr2.oucs.ox.ac.uk> To: nw_moriarty@yahoo.com Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] stymied In-Reply-To: <20010302172032.17859.qmail@web1610.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20010302172032.17859.qmail@web1610.mail.yahoo.com> Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 20:08:10 +0000 Nigel W. Moriarty writes: > pdflatex runs on some simple files but > > This is pdfTeX, Version 3.14159-13d (Web2C 7.3.1) > (Fatal format file error; I'm stymied) > > on a more complicated file that worked yesterday. Is > it because I changed the file somehow or have I not > set up correctly. your setup is screwed, ie you have a mismatch between versions of pdftex and its format files. running fmtutil --byfmt pdftex fmtutil --byfmt pdflatex can do no harm. if they fail, saying that the pool file does not match, you *are* up the creek. sebastian _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 4-Mar-2001 23:29:49-GMT,3143;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA09806 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 16:29:47 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 8C0522AE93; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 00:30:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp3.xs4all.nl (smtp3.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.132]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f24NTBm29629 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 00:29:11 +0100 Received: from server-1.pragma-ade.nl (s340-isdn2788.dial.xs4all.nl [194.109.190.228]) by smtp3.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA08976; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 00:28:53 +0100 (CET) Received: from laptop-1 ([200.1.1.42]) by server-1.pragma-ade.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA22124; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 00:24:07 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20010304221542.01756e30@server-1> X-Sender: hagen@server-1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) To: margarida From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: [pdftex] square root in metapost Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: <3A9FAB12.86E55432@ime.unicamp.br> References: <3.0.6.32.20010226102438.00b4c560@server-1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 22:15:42 +0100 At 11:16 AM 3/2/01 -0300, margarida wrote: >Hi, > >thank you very much for the help. The \string solution worked out well. >Unfortunately I don't know of a context version for the Macintosh and am not there is at least one mac user on the context mailing list >knowledgeable enough to create one from the source, so I can't use the second >suggestion. One thing I noticed is that if I run epstodpf on the ps file >created by metapost I loose the text. Is there a workaround for this problem? Go to our home page [www.pragma-ade.com] and fetch mptopdf [follow metapost link] There is a small format mptopdf that does a good job on it. This approach is better with fonts. If there are more users with this kind of problem, i can set up a mp to pdf process on our cod server. Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma@wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 5-Mar-2001 11:12:49-GMT,2950;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA25268 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 04:12:48 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id E1AD42AE8C; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 12:13:00 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.bremen.pop.de (mars.hamburg.pop.de [195.222.210.104]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f25BCwm32471 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 12:12:59 +0100 Received: from uucp by mail.bremen.pop.de with local-rmail (Exim 2.02 #2) id 14Zt11-000345-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 12:18:59 +0100 Received: (from uartcom@localhost) by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id MAA19482 for tug.org!pdftex; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 12:12:04 +0100 (MET) >Received: by artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de (Smail3.2 #1) id m14Zstx-004wwRC; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 12:11:41 +0100 (MET) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= To: pdfTeX Subject: Re: [pdftex] Version string (14h-pretest-20010126) Message-ID: <20010305121141.H22252@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mail-Followup-To: pdfTeX References: <200102281328.WAA01367@jupiter.fsci.fuk.kindai.ac.jp> <20010228161210.A3049@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010228161210.A3049@anxur.fi.muni.cz>; from thanh@informatics.muni.cz on Wed, Feb 28, 2001 at 04:12:10PM +0100 Organization: ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Strasse 8, D-28359 Bremen X-Disclaimer: The views expressed are my own and not necessarily that of my employers. Received: from artcom8 by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 12:12 MET Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 12:11:41 +0100 On 2001-02-28 16:12:10 +0100, Han The Thanh wrote: > > I think line 35 of pdftex.ch : > > @d pdftex_version_string=='13h-pretest-20010126' {current pdf\TeX\ version} > > should be > > @d pdftex_version_string=='14h-pretest-20010126' {current pdf\TeX\ version} > > I fixed this typo (reported by Fabrice) in the latest source (at texlive > server). Is ftp.fi.muni.cz still the main repository? Or where is it? Best regards Martin -- http://www.tm.oneiros.de/calendar/2001/ _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 5-Mar-2001 12:35:50-GMT,3122;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA26915 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 05:35:48 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 32DDF2AE8D; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 13:36:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f25CZQm00661 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 13:35:26 +0100 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA20525; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 13:35:05 +0100 (MET) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA07184; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 13:35:04 +0100 (MET) From: Han The Thanh To: Michel Bovani Cc: pdfTeX , tom@kiffe.com Subject: Re: [pdftex] pdftex update Message-ID: <20010305133504.B6620@anxur.fi.muni.cz> References: <200101261221.NAA12498@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from michel.bovani@wanadoo.fr on Wed, Feb 28, 2001 at 05:06:14PM +0100 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 13:35:04 +0100 Hi, > >I released another pretest of pdftex (20010126) at > >ftp://ftp.cstug.cz/pub/tex/local/cstug/thanh/pdftex > > > > I have a font problem with this version (pdf figures fonts). > > Here is the main test file : > > \documentclass{article} > \usepackage[pdftex]{graphicx} > \begin{document} > \includegraphics{fig0} > \end{document} > > I obtain fig0.pdf by > 1 - latexing fig0.tex > \documentclass{article} > \pagestyle{empty} > \begin{document} > A > \end{document} > > 2- dvips -E -o fig0.eps fig0.dvi > > 3- running epstopdf or distiller (same result) on fig0.eps > > The main file then works perfectly with 14g pretest but *not* with > 14h (pdftex quits, log file is empty...). > > BTW if I replace "A" in fig0.tex by "\rule{5mm}{5mm}" 014h works > perfectly, reason why I thing to a font inclusion problem... I tested this problem in my linux box, but didn't find anything odd. This doesn't seem to be easy. Unfortunately I don't have a mac to test cmactex. Please be patient. Regards, Thanh _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 6-Mar-2001 16:45:54-GMT,3489;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA11721 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 09:45:52 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 74F342AE8B; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 17:46:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from moutvdom01.kundenserver.de (moutvdom01.kundenserver.de [195.20.224.200]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f26Gj4m10662 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 17:45:05 +0100 Received: from [195.20.224.219] (helo=mrvdom03.kundenserver.de) by moutvdom01.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 14aKZm-0004om-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 17:44:42 +0100 Received: from pd9502cf1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([217.80.44.241] helo=servus) by mrvdom03.kundenserver.de with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 14aKZa-0002Vp-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 17:44:30 +0100 From: "Ulrich Dirr" To: "pdfTeX" Subject: [pdftex] character protruding Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 17:43:38 +0100 Hi. I'm working with fpTeX v0.4 on Win2k. With this pdfTeX 0.14h is installed. I tried to use \pdfprodrudechars=2 with this test file: -------------------------------------------------------------- \documentclass{article} \usepackage[LY1]{fontenc} \usepackage{JensonMM} \pdfoutput=1 \pdfpagewidth=21cm \pdfpageheight=29.7cm \pdfprotrudechars=2 \input{protcode} \AtBeginDocument{% \setprotcode\font} \begin{document} This is version \the\pdftexversion \pdftexrevision\ of pdfTeX. Ah! perhaps a burning match might be some good, if she could draw it from the bundle and strike it against the wall, just to warm [...] -------------------------------------------------------------- First: the result (in PDF and DVI) is disappointing; hyphenated words stuck out horribly in the margin (with \rpcode#1`\-=700 in protrude.tex!). And all other punctuation marks not at all! Is LY1 the bad boy? How do I have to setup my fonts (tfm, pfm, pfb, afm, etc.) so that everything works as expected (and I can't use 8r or something like this because the font has its own encoding with special ligatures (e.g. ft, tt, "...", etc.). Do I need virtual fonts? I think I don't need them, everything is in the PFB. Please help me. Regards, Ulrich Dirr -- Art & Satz Ulrich Dirr Arnimstraße 9 81369 München Germany/Deutschland -- fon (+49 89) 743 30 60 fax (+49 89) 743 30 61 email ud@art-satz.de -- -=*:-) _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 6-Mar-2001 16:51:05-GMT,2698;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA11867 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 09:50:59 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id F37AB2AE8F; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 17:51:00 +0100 (CET) Received: from zambeze.ujf-grenoble.fr (zambeze.ujf-grenoble.fr [152.77.2.3]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f26GoFm10760 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 17:50:15 +0100 Received: from mozart.ujf-grenoble.Fr (mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.241.5]) by zambeze.ujf-grenoble.fr (Pro-8.9.3/8.9.3/Configured by AD & JE 25/10/1999) with ESMTP id RAA06113; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 17:49:57 +0100 (MET) Received: (from bouche@localhost) by mozart.ujf-grenoble.Fr (8.9.3/8.8.5) id RAA25021; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 17:49:56 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <200103061649.RAA25021@mozart.ujf-grenoble.Fr> From: Thierry Bouche To: "Ulrich Dirr" Cc: "pdfTeX" Subject: Re: [pdftex] character protruding In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.22 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 17:49:56 +0100 (MET) Concernant « [pdftex] character protruding », Ulrich Dirr écrit : « » First: the result (in PDF and DVI) is disappointing; hyphenated words » stuck out horribly in the margin (with \rpcode#1`\-=700 in » protrude.tex!). And all other punctuation marks not at all! Ahumm, you're using the first protruding syntax with a newer engine for which those pcodes mean thousandths of an em, NOT of the char's width... try to compute by hand the width of - in em. and give rpcode 70 % of that... Thierry Bouche __ « Ils vivent pour vivre, et nous, hélas ! nous vivons pour savoir. » Charles Baudelaire, Paris. _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 6-Mar-2001 17:50:04-GMT,4855;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA13861 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 10:49:57 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 747712AE8B; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 18:50:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f26HnUm11024 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 18:49:30 +0100 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA04248; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 18:49:11 +0100 (MET) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA22611; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 18:49:09 +0100 (MET) From: Han The Thanh To: Ulrich Dirr Cc: pdfTeX Subject: Re: [pdftex] character protruding Message-ID: <20010306184909.B22284@anxur.fi.muni.cz> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="+HP7ph2BbKc20aGI" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from ud@art-satz.de on Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 05:43:38PM +0100 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 18:49:09 +0100 --+HP7ph2BbKc20aGI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline The meaning of rpcode\lpcode changed from 0.14h. I attached the code I use myself for `daily' use. This code assumes OT1 encoding. 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(v1.49) UNREG / CD5BF9353B3B7091 Reply-To: Aiko Huckauf X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <316980136.20010307035051@epost.de> To: pdftex@tug.org In-reply-To: <20010302172032.17859.qmail@web1610.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20010302172032.17859.qmail@web1610.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [pdftex] Type1-font Helvetica Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 03:50:51 +0100 Hi, I try to produce a document (pure text, no formulas) using Helvetica as font for the text itself, the pagenumbers and the headings. I tried it in two different ways: 1. I run LaTeX on my document, convert dvi into ps (using dvips) and ps into pdf (using Ghostscript). 2. I run pdfTeX on my document and get the pdf file directly. Now the point is: When I open the two pdf documents with Adobe Acrobat Reader, I get the same font information, "Helvetica", as expected. What I don't understand: Obviously the fonts in the two pdf-files are _not_ identical (the difference can best be seen at the capital "G"). I have the font definition files hv.pfb/pfm etc. for Helvetica, but how do I tell pdfTeX to use _this_ font instead of some Helvetica-substitute? Aiko Huckauf _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 7-Mar-2001 8:28:47-GMT,3372;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA06425 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 01:28:46 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 1D14B2AE8C; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 09:29:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from ecnwall.ecn.nl (ecnwall.ecn.nl [130.112.1.86]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f278SKm14267 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 09:28:22 +0100 Received: from ecntex.ecn.nl (ecntex.ecn.nl [130.112.1.26]) by ecnwall.ecn.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DE1726A; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 09:27:57 +0100 (MET) Received: by ecntex.ecn.nl with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <1LSCQZLY>; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 09:27:57 +0100 Message-ID: <92D6AAE888CED411A16A00508BB0B827A23FB3@ecntex.ecn.nl> From: "Dok, D. van" To: "'Aiko Huckauf'" , pdftex@tug.org Subject: RE: [pdftex] Type1-font Helvetica MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 09:27:56 +0100 > -----Original Message----- > From: Aiko Huckauf [mailto:Aiko.Huckauf@epost.de] > Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2001 03:51 > To: pdftex@tug.org > Subject: [pdftex] Type1-font Helvetica > > > Hi, > > I try to produce a document (pure text, no formulas) using Helvetica > as font for the text itself, the pagenumbers and the headings. > I tried it in two different ways: > > 1. I run LaTeX on my document, convert dvi into ps (using dvips) and > ps into pdf (using Ghostscript). > 2. I run pdfTeX on my document and get the pdf file directly. > > Now the point is: When I open the two pdf documents with Adobe Acrobat > Reader, I get the same font information, "Helvetica", as expected. > What I don't understand: Obviously the fonts in the two pdf-files are > _not_ identical (the difference can best be seen at the capital "G"). > > I have the font definition files hv.pfb/pfm etc. for Helvetica, but > how do I tell pdfTeX to use _this_ font instead of some > Helvetica-substitute? Helvetica is one of the 35 or so standard fonts that are built-in to acrobat reader and all pdf/postscript interpreters, such as ghostview and PostScript printers. So pdfTeX does the right thing to not include it with the PDF file. I don't know why dvips behaves otherwise. I've encountered funny things with standard fonts myself: when I print a document typeset in Times Roman, I notice slight differences between the printed result (on a PostScript printer) and within Acrobat Reader. Notably the pilcrow sign is solid on screen, but hollow on the printer. Dennis van Dok _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 7-Mar-2001 9:17:47-GMT,3193;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA07298 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 02:17:46 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id D3B522AE8B; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 10:18:00 +0100 (CET) Received: from moutvdom00.kundenserver.de (moutvdom00.kundenserver.de [195.20.224.149]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f279Hnm14494 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 10:17:49 +0100 Received: from [195.20.224.219] (helo=mrvdom03.kundenserver.de) by moutvdom00.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 14aa4X-00076k-00; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 10:17:29 +0100 Received: from pd9502cd5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([217.80.44.213] helo=servus) by mrvdom03.kundenserver.de with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 14aa4H-0005aB-00; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 10:17:13 +0100 From: "Ulrich Dirr" To: "Han The Thanh" Cc: "pdfTeX" Subject: Re: [pdftex] character protruding Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20010306184909.B22284@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 10:16:27 +0100 > The meaning of rpcode\lpcode changed from 0.14h. I attached > the code I use myself for `daily' use. This code assumes OT1 > encoding. Thank you. I think everything is working now -- except ... ... that the regular font (AJen.tfm; /FontName /AJen def; AJen.pfb) only protrudes the hyphen but nothing else (in both PDF and DVI mode). I've tested it with a preamble like \AtBeginDocument{ \setprotcode\font {\Sans \setprotcode\font} {\Serif \setprotcode\font} } and defined, e.g. \Serif \newcommand{\Serif}{% \fontfamily{ajmm}\fontencoding{LY1}\fontseries{m}% \fontshape{n}\selectfont} etc. I'm experiencing the same behavior with my small caps font (the italic, bold, bolditalic variations are o.k.). What could be wrong? How can I debug this? Another question: is it possible to have different prodruding values for different fonts/font sizes? Regards, Ulrich Dirr -- Art & Satz Ulrich Dirr Arnimstraße 9 81369 München Germany/Deutschland -- fon (+49 89) 743 30 60 fax (+49 89) 743 30 61 email ud@art-satz.de -- -=*:-) _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 7-Mar-2001 15:02:47-GMT,2537;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA13804 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 08:02:46 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 5CAD42AE8D; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 16:03:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from mta6 (mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.17]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f27F2lm16247 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 16:02:48 +0100 Received: from ool-18bc2375.dyn.optonline.net (ool-18bc2375.dyn.optonline.net [24.188.35.117]) by mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.0 Patch 2 (built Dec 14 2000)) with ESMTP id <0G9U002V11RMC3@mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for pdftex@tug.org; Wed, 07 Mar 2001 10:02:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from ats@localhost) by ool-18bc2375.dyn.optonline.net (8.11.2/8.9.3) id f27F1vg28030; Wed, 07 Mar 2001 10:01:57 -0500 From: Alan Shutko In-reply-to: <92D6AAE888CED411A16A00508BB0B827A23FB3@ecntex.ecn.nl> To: pdftex@tug.org Message-id: <87zoexipze.fsf@wesley.springies.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.0.98 Lines: 12 References: <92D6AAE888CED411A16A00508BB0B827A23FB3@ecntex.ecn.nl> Subject: [pdftex] Re: Type1-font Helvetica Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 10:00:05 -0500 "Dok, D. van" writes: > I've encountered funny things with standard fonts myself: when I print a > document typeset in Times Roman, I notice slight differences between the > printed result (on a PostScript printer) and within Acrobat Reader. Probably because Acrobat 4 doesn't come with Times Roman anymore, but with Times New Roman. -- Alan Shutko - In a variety of flavors! Men seldom show dimples to girls who have pimples. _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 7-Mar-2001 16:21:47-GMT,2478;000000000011 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA16045 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 09:21:46 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id E11FC2AE8D; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 17:22:00 +0100 (CET) Received: from ecnwall.ecn.nl (ecnwall.ecn.nl [130.112.1.86]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f27GLEm16661 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 17:21:15 +0100 Received: from ecntex.ecn.nl (ecntex.ecn.nl [130.112.1.26]) by ecnwall.ecn.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E45C33E for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 17:20:56 +0100 (MET) Received: by ecntex.ecn.nl with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <1LSCQ7TN>; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 17:20:56 +0100 Message-ID: <92D6AAE888CED411A16A00508BB0B827A23FB7@ecntex.ecn.nl> From: "Dok, D. van" To: "PDFTeX Mailing List (E-mail)" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Subject: [pdftex] hoffsets, voffset and better solutions Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 17:20:55 +0100 This is slightly off-topic as far as pdftex is concerned, but I like the knowledgable crowd ;) I'm making documents with folding lines, which should divide the paper in three equal parts. Problems arise when I share these documents with other people. First of all, they must take care to switch off the `fit to page' option in Acrobat Reader as it will reduce the page to make the lines fit within the printable area. But even then, different printers have different characteristics and some of them print with a considerable offset. I could use a different hoffset/voffset for each user, but does anyone know a better solution? Dennis van Dok _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 7-Mar-2001 16:33:18-GMT,2481;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from suncore.math.utah.edu (suncore0.math.utah.edu [128.110.198.5]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA16462; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 09:33:17 -0700 (MST) Received: (from beebe@localhost) by suncore.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA03193; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 09:33:16 -0700 (MST) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 09:33:16 -0700 (MST) From: "Nelson H. F. Beebe" To: "Dok, D. van" , pdftex@tug.org Cc: beebe@math.utah.edu X-US-Mail: "Center for Scientific Computing, Department of Mathematics, 322 INSCC, University of Utah, 155 S 1400 E RM 233, Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA" X-Telephone: +1 801 581 5254 X-FAX: +1 801 585 1640, +1 801 581 4148 X-URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe Subject: Re: [pdftex] hoffsets, voffset and better solutions In-Reply-To: Your message of Wed, 7 Mar 2001 17:20:55 +0100 Message-ID: Dennis van Dok writes on Wed, 7 Mar 2001 17:20:55 +0100 >> I'm making documents with folding lines, which should divide the paper in >> three equal parts. ... >> different printers have different characteristics and some of >> them print with a considerable offset. Indeed. That is a common problem: even printers from the same vendor model line may have slightly different (perhaps as much as 5mm) notions of where (0,0) is in the page coordinate system. For that reason, my dvialw has a configuration option to fiddle the origin for a particular printer. Because of this printer-specific variation, I see no way to deal with it cleanly at the PostScript or PDF level. Ideally, printers should have a calibration mechanism to adjust the (0,0) point; however, I don't recall ever seeing any laser printer with such an adjustment. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Nelson H. F. Beebe Tel: +1 801 581 5254 - - Center for Scientific Computing FAX: +1 801 585 1640, +1 801 581 4148 - - University of Utah Internet e-mail: beebe@math.utah.edu - - Department of Mathematics, 322 INSCC beebe@acm.org beebe@computer.org - - 155 S 1400 E RM 233 beebe@ieee.org - - Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7-Mar-2001 16:39:49-GMT,5864;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA16678 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 09:39:48 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 42E1A2B9CD; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 17:40:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from cod.mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca (cod.mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca [142.176.61.253]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f27GdMm16941 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 17:39:22 +0100 Received: id MAA08542; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 12:37:10 -0400 Received: by gateway id <0G9U0095G63HV3@bionet.bio.dfo.ca> for pdftex@tug.org; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 12:35:41 -0400 (AST) Received: by gateway id ; Wed, 07 Mar 2001 12:35:40 -0400 Content-return: allowed From: "White, George" Subject: RE: [pdftex] Type1-font Helvetica To: "'Aiko Huckauf '" , "'pdftex@tug.org '" Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 12:35:37 -0400 Helvetica is a _huge_ problem. On a Win32 PC, and in Acrobat 4.05, asking for Helvetica usually gets Arial. Ghostscript users often get URW NimbusSanL. I think Arial URW NimbusSanL have been tweaked to approximate the Helvetica metrics, but the match is not perfect and the glyphs are not the same. Furthermore, Helvetica Oblique is a synthetic font, so the vert. bar symbol (|) is slanted, while Arial has a true italic with unslanted (|) and URW NimbusSanL-ReguItal looks similar to Helvetica-Oblique. Dizzy yet? If you create a drawing on a Win32 PC using "Helvetica-Oblique", you may be seeing Arial, so you might have something like "a|b" in an expression. If you view this with gs, you might be using URW NimbusSanL-ReguItal, so the "|" could be confused with "/". If you make PDF the "|" might be vertical, but when you print to a printer with real Helvetica-Oblique, it looks more like "/". This has all been discussed on this list before, and there is no simple solution. Moreover, the available workarounds are fraught with problems of intellectual honesty. If you really need to keep your files small, you will want to make sure that you only use glyphs that don't look too different between Arial, URW NimbusSanL, and Helvetica, and you have to accept some differences in appearance across platforms, viewers, and printers. If you aren't willing to accept such differences, you need to embed fonts. Since pdftex avoids embedding the base fonts, for most people this means embedding the URW fonts. There is some dispute over the intellectual honesty of using "clone" fonts. I think the URW fonts are good honest original designs, and the fact that they have been scaled to match Adobe metrics a bit dicey from the standpoint of intellectual property. Others think even this is theft and don't like to use URW fonts. Unless/until pdftex and/or ghostscript supports embedding base fonts, you need Adobe Acrobat. I would prefer that TeX distributions include and use the URW fonts, but this is really a personal tradeoff between misgivings over the theft of Adobe's metrics and being more honest about what fonts are actually used. The present system encourages average users to think they are doing "the right thing" (e.g., using Adobe fonts) when they are really using other, cloned, fonts. It also makes it harder to understand the issues that prompted the original posting. My understanding is that Adobe changed to different fonts in Acrobat Reader 4 because they felt the cost of licensing the original base fonts would be too great. Since Adobe "owns" the metrics of the base fonts, I have no problem with them purchasing other fonts and scaling them to the same metrics. If Adobe feels it is acceptable to use Arial when you request Helvetica, does that make it OK for (pdf)TeX to specify fonts that only a small fraction of users will actually be using? If you head isn't spinning by now you don't "get it"! -----Original Message----- From: Aiko Huckauf To: pdftex@tug.org Sent: 3/6/01 10:50 PM Subject: [pdftex] Type1-font Helvetica Hi, I try to produce a document (pure text, no formulas) using Helvetica as font for the text itself, the pagenumbers and the headings. I tried it in two different ways: 1. I run LaTeX on my document, convert dvi into ps (using dvips) and ps into pdf (using Ghostscript). 2. I run pdfTeX on my document and get the pdf file directly. Now the point is: When I open the two pdf documents with Adobe Acrobat Reader, I get the same font information, "Helvetica", as expected. What I don't understand: Obviously the fonts in the two pdf-files are _not_ identical (the difference can best be seen at the capital "G"). I have the font definition files hv.pfb/pfm etc. for Helvetica, but how do I tell pdfTeX to use _this_ font instead of some Helvetica-substitute? Aiko Huckauf _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 7-Mar-2001 16:47:19-GMT,22235;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA16869 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 09:47:18 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 54AA52B9D1; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 17:41:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.bremen.pop.de (mars.hamburg.pop.de [195.222.210.104]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f27GeUm16990 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 17:40:30 +0100 Received: from uucp by mail.bremen.pop.de with local-rmail (Exim 2.02 #2) id 14ah53-0007RA-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 17:46:29 +0100 Received: (from uartcom@localhost) by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id RAA15403 for tug.org!pdftex; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 17:38:05 +0100 (MET) >Received: by artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de (Smail3.2 #1) id m14agwR-004wwRC; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 17:37:35 +0100 (MET) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= To: PDF-TeX mailing list Message-ID: <20010307173735.U22252@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mail-Followup-To: PDF-TeX mailing list Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Organization: ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Strasse 8, D-28359 Bremen X-Disclaimer: The views expressed are my own and not necessarily that of my employers. 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The name of the color is foo%bar (or foo#25bar). Any chance of fixing this? Best regards Martin -- http://www.tm.oneiros.de/calendar/2001/ --JIpyCmsTxyPLrmrM Content-Type: application/postscript Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="seppercent.ps" %! 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F. Beebe" To: "Dok, D. van" , pdftex@tug.org Cc: beebe@math.utah.edu X-US-Mail: "Center for Scientific Computing, Department of Mathematics, 322 INSCC, University of Utah, 155 S 1400 E RM 233, Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA" X-Telephone: +1 801 581 5254 X-FAX: +1 801 585 1640, +1 801 581 4148 X-URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe Subject: Re: [pdftex] hoffsets, voffset and better solutions In-Reply-To: Your message of Wed, 7 Mar 2001 17:20:55 +0100 Message-ID: Dennis van Dok writes on Wed, 7 Mar 2001 17:20:55 +0100 >> I'm making documents with folding lines, which should divide the paper in >> three equal parts. ... >> different printers have different characteristics and some of >> them print with a considerable offset. Indeed. That is a common problem: even printers from the same vendor model line may have slightly different (perhaps as much as 5mm) notions of where (0,0) is in the page coordinate system. For that reason, my dvialw has a configuration option to fiddle the origin for a particular printer. Because of this printer-specific variation, I see no way to deal with it cleanly at the PostScript or PDF level. Ideally, printers should have a calibration mechanism to adjust the (0,0) point; however, I don't recall ever seeing any laser printer with such an adjustment. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Nelson H. F. Beebe Tel: +1 801 581 5254 - - Center for Scientific Computing FAX: +1 801 585 1640, +1 801 581 4148 - - University of Utah Internet e-mail: beebe@math.utah.edu - - Department of Mathematics, 322 INSCC beebe@acm.org beebe@computer.org - - 155 S 1400 E RM 233 beebe@ieee.org - - Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7-Mar-2001 16:33:49-GMT,3631;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA16489 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 09:33:48 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 82DE22B9C6; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 17:34:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from sunshine.math.utah.edu (sunshine.math.utah.edu [128.110.198.2]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f27GXcm16813 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 17:33:38 +0100 Received: from suncore.math.utah.edu (suncore0.math.utah.edu [128.110.198.5]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA16462; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 09:33:17 -0700 (MST) Received: (from beebe@localhost) by suncore.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA03193; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 09:33:16 -0700 (MST) From: "Nelson H. F. Beebe" To: "Dok, D. van" , pdftex@tug.org Cc: beebe@math.utah.edu X-US-Mail: "Center for Scientific Computing, Department of Mathematics, 322 INSCC, University of Utah, 155 S 1400 E RM 233, Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA" X-Telephone: +1 801 581 5254 X-FAX: +1 801 585 1640, +1 801 581 4148 X-URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe Subject: Re: [pdftex] hoffsets, voffset and better solutions In-Reply-To: Your message of Wed, 7 Mar 2001 17:20:55 +0100 Message-ID: Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 09:33:16 -0700 (MST) Dennis van Dok writes on Wed, 7 Mar 2001 17:20:55 +0100 >> I'm making documents with folding lines, which should divide the paper in >> three equal parts. ... >> different printers have different characteristics and some of >> them print with a considerable offset. Indeed. That is a common problem: even printers from the same vendor model line may have slightly different (perhaps as much as 5mm) notions of where (0,0) is in the page coordinate system. For that reason, my dvialw has a configuration option to fiddle the origin for a particular printer. Because of this printer-specific variation, I see no way to deal with it cleanly at the PostScript or PDF level. Ideally, printers should have a calibration mechanism to adjust the (0,0) point; however, I don't recall ever seeing any laser printer with such an adjustment. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Nelson H. F. Beebe Tel: +1 801 581 5254 - - Center for Scientific Computing FAX: +1 801 585 1640, +1 801 581 4148 - - University of Utah Internet e-mail: beebe@math.utah.edu - - Department of Mathematics, 322 INSCC beebe@acm.org beebe@computer.org - - 155 S 1400 E RM 233 beebe@ieee.org - - Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 8-Mar-2001 13:20:48-GMT,4319;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA15934 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 06:20:46 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 45E1D2AE8B; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 14:21:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from moutvdom01.kundenserver.de (moutvdom01.kundenserver.de [195.20.224.200]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f28DK1m22063 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 14:20:02 +0100 Received: from [195.20.224.209] (helo=mrvdom02.schlund.de) by moutvdom01.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 14b0KU-0004wO-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 14:19:42 +0100 Received: from pd9502cda.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([217.80.44.218] helo=servus) by mrvdom02.schlund.de with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 14b0Jp-0008HR-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 14:19:01 +0100 From: "Ulrich Dirr" To: "pdfTeX" Subject: [pdftex] migrating to pdfTeX, possible problems Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 14:17:56 +0100 Hi. I would like to use pdfTeX for a special project (chess book) I'm currently working on. I'm wondering if it's possible to get everything with pdf(La)TeX what I've got so far the traditional way via LaTeX2e. e.g. (i) \def\WB{{\DiagramFont \ifblackfield\special{color push cmyk 0 0 0 0.3}% z\special{color pop}P\else P\fi}} this kind of definition is used several times in the style file to achieve coloring (\textcolor didn't work here). This way I can see the color with a DVI viewer. And the color is getting into the postscript file, too -- which is later necessary for color separation. How can I achieve this with pdfTeX? (pdftricks? low level pdf operators?) (ii) several packages are loaded. Do you know any not working with pdfTeX (or needs special configuration)? \usepackage{type1cm} \usepackage{pstcol,pst-plot} % pstcol loads pstricks and color see below (iv) on pstricks; color package useable? \usepackage[dvipsone]{graphicx} \graphicspath{{bilder/}} \usepackage{calc} \usepackage{ifthen} \usepackage{fancyhdr} \usepackage[LY1]{fontenc} \usepackage{JensonMM} \usepackage{multicol} \usepackage[cam,a4center,axes]{crop} \usepackage{array} \usepackage{colortbl} \usepackage{lettrine} \usepackage{endnotes} (iii) is there anything to care of concerning LaTeX page layout commands? (e.g. offsets) (iv) I know PSTricks is not working (in PDF mode). But how can I get, e.g. the baseline grid (for proofs): [...] {\psset{xunit=1mm,yunit=1dd} \multido{\r=519.7+-13,\i=1+1}{41}{% \rput[Br](86.576,\r){% \color{graythirty}\line(1,0){165}\color{black}}} \multido{\n=494+-13,\i=1+1}{37}{% \rput[Br](90.576,\n){\tiny\i}}} (v) where can I find up-to-date documentation? I think Mr Rahtz' book is one year old ... (second edition planned?) Of course it would be very nice if everything would work in both output modes. It is intended to produce a PDF version afterwards with hypertext links and all that stuff for a CD version, so ... Thank you very much in advance for any help. And thank you for all your great work! Regards, Ulrich Dirr -- Art & Satz Ulrich Dirr Arnimstraße 9 81369 München Germany/Deutschland -- fon (+49 89) 743 30 60 fax (+49 89) 743 30 61 email ud@art-satz.de -- -=*:-) _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 9-Mar-2001 15:46:48-GMT,3280;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA28128 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 08:46:46 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 766AB2AE8B; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 16:47:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from seralph10.essex.ac.uk (seralph10.essex.ac.uk [155.245.240.160]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f29Fk9m27727 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 16:46:09 +0100 Received: from sernt14.essex.ac.uk ([155.245.240.183]) by seralph10.essex.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 14bP5M-000159-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Fri, 09 Mar 2001 15:45:44 +0000 Received: from essex.ac.uk (mjrpc.essex.ac.uk [155.245.210.9]) by sernt14.essex.ac.uk with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id GKT5DB04; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 15:43:48 -0000 Message-ID: <3AA8FA20.8FAC04DF@essex.ac.uk> From: Martin Reed Organization: University of Essex X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [pdftex] Pdflatex and seminar Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 15:43:28 +0000 Hi, I am trying to use pdflatex with seminar but am having problems with it. I guess this must be a common problem, but I cannot find any searchable verion of the tug mail lists, is there one? My problem is that the slides appear as landscape but small on a mostly empty a4 portrait page. I have tried setting the slide/paper sizes with commands like: \def\paperwidth{210mm} \def\paperheight{297mm} \input sem-page.sty \slidewidth 222mm \slideheight 152mm in seminar.con as described in seminar documentation and have tried various combinations of paper/slide sizes. However, the end effect seems to be that slides either appears only half on the paper or with lots of white space. Is there an answer to this? I am using: pdfTeX (Web2C 7.3.1) 3.14159-0.13d and seminar from tetex 1.0.6-7 Martin. PS I have tried vtex/free on Linux, and it works but is slow as it always has to convert eps graphics each time (i know there is a draft mode but...). So I would really like to use pdflatex which is also open source. -- / Dr. M.J. Reed Room: 4SB.6.15 \ | Dept. Electronic Systems Engineering Tel:+44 (0)1206 872479 | | University of Essex, Colchester CO4 3SQ, UK FAX:+44 (0)1206 872900 | \ mailto:mjreed@essex.ac.uk Web: http://esewww.essex.ac.uk/~mjreed / _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 9-Mar-2001 15:55:50-GMT,3576;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA28380 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 08:55:49 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id A2C1F2AE8F; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 16:56:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from doraemon.bu.edu (DORAEMON.BU.EDU [128.197.128.77]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f29Fsvm27834 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 16:54:57 +0100 Received: from localhost (yrchen@localhost) by doraemon.bu.edu (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f29FvSK21356; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 10:57:28 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: doraemon.bu.edu: yrchen owned process doing -bs From: Ying-Jui Chen To: Martin Reed Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] Pdflatex and seminar In-Reply-To: <3AA8FA20.8FAC04DF@essex.ac.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 10:57:28 -0500 (EST) Hi, Here is what I found out from the web and is used as my preamble: \documentclass[semrot,12pt]{seminar} \newif\ifpdf \ifx\pdfoutput\undefined \pdffalse \else \pdfoutput=1 \pdftrue \fi \ifpdf \usepackage[pdftex]{graphicx} \pdfcompresslevel=9 \pdfpagewidth=11truein %297truemm % your milage may vary.... \pdfpageheight=8.5truein %210truemm \pdfhorigin=1truein % default value(?), but doesn't work without \pdfvorigin=1truein % default value(?), but doesn't work without \else \usepackage{graphicx} \fi I hope this helps! YJ On Fri, 9 Mar 2001, Martin Reed wrote: > Hi, > > I am trying to use pdflatex with seminar but am having problems with it. > I guess this must be a common problem, but I cannot find any searchable > verion of the tug mail lists, is there one? > > My problem is that the slides appear as landscape but small on a mostly > empty a4 portrait page. > > I have tried setting the slide/paper sizes with commands like: > \def\paperwidth{210mm} > \def\paperheight{297mm} > \input sem-page.sty > \slidewidth 222mm > \slideheight 152mm > > in seminar.con as described in seminar documentation and have tried > various combinations of paper/slide sizes. However, the end effect seems > to be that slides either appears only half on the paper or with lots of > white space. Is there an answer to this? > > I am using: > pdfTeX (Web2C 7.3.1) 3.14159-0.13d > and seminar from tetex 1.0.6-7 > > > Martin. > > PS I have tried vtex/free on Linux, and it works but is slow as it > always has to convert eps graphics each time (i know there is a draft > mode but...). So I would really like to use pdflatex which is also open > source. > > -- Regards, Ying-Jui Chen, PhD student, ECE Dept, Boston University 617/353-9570 http://multirate.bu.edu/~yrchen _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 9-Mar-2001 20:24:46-GMT,2609;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA06788 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 13:24:45 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 9C36F2AE8C; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 21:25:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de (waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.4.42]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f29KOEm29196 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 21:24:14 +0100 Received: from pluto.cs.uni-dortmund.de (pluto.cs.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.56.59]) by waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de with ESMTP id VAA12321; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 21:23:21 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <200103092023.VAA20462@pluto.cs.uni-dortmund.de> Received: from pluto (pluto [129.217.56.59]) by pluto.cs.uni-dortmund.de id VAA20462; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 21:23:21 +0100 (MET) From: Kolloquium Reply-To: Kolloquium Subject: Re: [pdftex] Pdflatex and seminar To: pdftex@tug.org, mjreed@essex.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: ea7nHoqN5YjBFvMtRBLipw== Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 21:23:21 +0100 (MET) Martin Reed wrote on Fri, 09 Mar 2001 15:43:28 +0000: > > I am trying to use pdflatex with seminar but am having problems with it. > I guess this must be a common problem, but I cannot find any searchable > verion of the tug mail lists, is there one? > > My problem is that the slides appear as landscape but small on a mostly > empty a4 portrait page. Using hyperref (in a moderately new version) will fix this, as well as http://lrb.cs.uni-dortmund.de/~lehmke/texpower/fixseminar.sty regards Stephan -- Stephan Lehmke Stephan.Lehmke@cs.uni-dortmund.de Fachbereich Informatik, LS I Tel. +49 231 755 6434 Universitaet Dortmund FAX 6555 D-44221 Dortmund, Germany _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 9-Mar-2001 20:29:51-GMT,2318;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA06924 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 13:29:50 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 327DF2AE92; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 21:30:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de (waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.4.42]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f29KTsm29277 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 21:29:54 +0100 Received: from pluto.cs.uni-dortmund.de (pluto.cs.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.56.59]) by waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de with ESMTP id VAA12458 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 21:29:35 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <200103092029.VAA20468@pluto.cs.uni-dortmund.de> Received: from pluto (pluto [129.217.56.59]) by pluto.cs.uni-dortmund.de id VAA20468; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 21:29:34 +0100 (MET) From: Stephan.Lehmke@cs.uni-dortmund.de Reply-To: Stephan.Lehmke@cs.uni-dortmund.de Subject: Re: [pdftex] Pdflatex and seminar To: pdftex@tug.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: Mo0N7NQhHjLtO13DDBuJ1Q== Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 21:29:34 +0100 (MET) Kolloquium wrote on Fri, 9 Mar 2001 21:23:21 +0100 (MET): > > Using hyperref (in a moderately new version) will fix this, That was me; sorry for using the wrong address. Does this mean everybody may post on this list now? ;-) regards Stephan -- Stephan Lehmke Stephan.Lehmke@cs.uni-dortmund.de Fachbereich Informatik, LS I Tel. +49 231 755 6434 Universitaet Dortmund FAX 6555 D-44221 Dortmund, Germany _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 9-Mar-2001 20:59:47-GMT,7081;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA07787 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 13:59:45 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id D20AF2AE90; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 22:00:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from bells.cs.ucl.ac.uk (bells.cs.ucl.ac.uk [128.16.5.31]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f29Kx1m29426 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 21:59:02 +0100 Received: from klingon.cs.ucl.ac.uk by bells.cs.ucl.ac.uk with local SMTP id ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 20:58:40 +0000 To: pdftex@tug.org Cc: W.Langdon@cs.ucl.ac.uk Message-ID: <27992.984171517@cs.ucl.ac.uk> From: Bill LANGDON Subject: [pdftex] make (pdftex-20010126) pdftexbin fails on SUN gcc 2.95.2 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 20:58:37 +0000 Dear pdftex, Aparently the first time I sent this email to the wrong email address:-( However Thomas Esser was kind enought to point this out to me. Also you might be interested in the comment I had from Himanshu Gohel ------------------------------ Well, it's a link error, which means the configuration didn't go correctly. Either you have to set some flags, or maybe tweak the configure for SunOS, though I have built tetex (a long time ago) on SunOS without any such problems. ------------------------------ I have also tried restarting from scratch and running configure --datadir=/opt/tex/lib --with-pdftex (We have LaTeX installed in /opt/tex/bin/latex) But make stopped again on kpsewhich configure produced several lines like: running /bin/sh ./configure --datadir=/opt/tex/lib --with-pdftex --prefix=/usr/local/teTeX --cache-file=../.././config.cache --srcdir=. "--prefix=/usr/local/teTeX" Is a bit suspicious? I don't have write access to it. So I tried again (from the start) with configure --datadir=/opt/tex/lib --with-pdftex --prefix=/tmp/pdftex but make failed on kpsewhich as before:-( Thanks again Bill ps: Am I missing the obvious? Can I get pdftex already compiled for SUN unix workstations? ------- Forwarded Message Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 17:25:37 +0000 From: Bill LANGDON To: tetex-pretest@informatik.uni-hannover.de cc: W.Langdon@cs.ucl.ac.uk Subject: make (pdftex-20010126) pdftexbin fails on SUN gcc 2.95.2 I thought you migt be interested in the following;-) I followed README except configure -datadir /opt/tex/lib make pdftexbin failed on first attempt with ...................................................................... gcc -o kpsewhich -static kpsewhich.o ../kpathsea/STATIC/libkpathsea.a -lm Undefined first referenced symbol in file dlclose /usr/lib/libc.a(nss_deffinder.o) dlsym /usr/lib/libc.a(nss_deffinder.o) dlopen /usr/lib/libc.a(nss_deffinder.o) ld: fatal: Symbol referencing errors. No output written to kpsewhich collect2: ld returned 1 exit status *** Error code 1 make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `kpsewhich' Current working directory /tmp/pdftex/src/texk/kpathsea *** Error code 1 make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `../kpathsea/libkpathsea.la' Current working directory /tmp/pdftex/src/texk/web2c *** Error code 1 make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `pdftexbin' ...................................................................... running make in src/texk/ksearpath seems to fix this but then make fails later with: ...................................................................... rm -f libGoo.a ar rc libGoo.a GString.o gmempp.o gfile.o gmem.o parseargs.o ./../klibtool link c++ -o pdftex -static pdftexini.o pdftex0.o pdftex1.o pdftex 2.o pdftex3.o pdftexextra.o pdftexdir/libpdf.a ../../libs/libtiff/libtiff.a .. /../libs/libpng/libpng.a ../../libs/zlib/libz.a ../../libs/xpdf/xpdf/libxpdf.a ../../libs/xpdf/goo/libGoo.a lib/lib.a ../kpathsea/libkpathsea.la -lm c++ -o pdftex -static pdftexini.o pdftex0.o pdftex1.o pdftex2.o pdftex3.o pdfte xextra.o pdftexdir/libpdf.a ../../libs/libtiff/libtiff.a ../../libs/libpng/libp ng.a ../../libs/zlib/libz.a ../../libs/xpdf/xpdf/libxpdf.a ../../libs/xpdf/goo/ libGoo.a lib/lib.a ../kpathsea/STATIC/libkpathsea.a -lm Undefined first referenced symbol in file dlclose /usr/lib/libc.a(nss_deffinder.o) __builtin_delete pdftexdir/libpdf.a(pdftoepdf.o) __builtin_new pdftexdir/libpdf.a(pdftoepdf.o) __rtti_user ../../libs/xpdf/xpdf/libxpdf.a(GfxState.o) terminate(void) pdftexdir/libpdf.a(pdftoepdf.o) __builtin_vec_new pdftexdir/libpdf.a(pdftoepdf.o) __builtin_vec_delete ../../libs/xpdf/goo/libGoo.a(GString.o) __rtti_si ../../libs/xpdf/xpdf/libxpdf.a(GfxState.o) dlsym /usr/lib/libc.a(nss_deffinder.o) dlopen /usr/lib/libc.a(nss_deffinder.o) ld: fatal: Symbol referencing errors. No output written to pdftex collect2: ld returned 1 exit status *** Error code 1 make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `pdftex' Current working directory /tmp/pdftex/src/texk/web2c *** Error code 1 make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `pdftexbin' ...................................................................... I noticed running make in the subdirectory uses "STATIC" in a different way to running the main make. Thank you Bill gcc -v Reading specs from /opt/gcc295/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.7/2.95.2/specs gcc version 2.95.2 19991024 (release) W. B. Langdon, Phone +44 20 7679 4436 Computer Science, Fax +44 20 7387 1397 University College, London, Gower Street, London, WC1E 6BT, UK http://www.cs.ucl.ac.uk/staff/W.Langdon EuroGP Lake Como 18-20 April http://evonet.dcs.napier.ac.uk/eurogp2001 GECCO San Francisco 7-11 July http://www.isgec.org/GECCO-2001 GP+EM Journal http://www.wkap.nl/journalhome.htm/1389-2576 ------- End of Forwarded Message _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 9-Mar-2001 21:38:46-GMT,3290;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA08835 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 14:38:44 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id EAB382AE95; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 22:39:00 +0100 (CET) Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f29Lc6m29620 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 22:38:07 +0100 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA21947; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 22:37:46 +0100 (MET) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA03253; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 22:37:46 +0100 (MET) From: Han The Thanh To: Bill LANGDON Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] make (pdftex-20010126) pdftexbin fails on SUN gcc 2.95.2 Message-ID: <20010309223746.A3168@anxur.fi.muni.cz> References: <27992.984171517@cs.ucl.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <27992.984171517@cs.ucl.ac.uk>; from W.Langdon@cs.ucl.ac.uk on Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 08:58:37PM +0000 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 22:37:46 +0100 > I have also tried restarting from scratch and running > configure --datadir=/opt/tex/lib --with-pdftex > (We have LaTeX installed in /opt/tex/bin/latex) > But make stopped again on kpsewhich > > configure produced several lines like: > running /bin/sh ./configure --datadir=/opt/tex/lib --with-pdftex --prefix=/usr/local/teTeX --cache-file=../.././config.cache --srcdir=. > > "--prefix=/usr/local/teTeX" > Is a bit suspicious? I don't have write access to it. > So I tried again (from the start) with > configure --datadir=/opt/tex/lib --with-pdftex --prefix=/tmp/pdftex > but make failed on kpsewhich as before:-( I also have this problem on a sun machine. The solution is following: ---------------------------------------------------------- static linking on solaris: libkpathsea.a(tilde.o) -> getpwnam -> libc.a(getpwnam.o) -> _fgetpwent_r -> libc.a(getpwnam_r.o) -> _nss_getent -> libc.a(nss_common.o) -> nss_default_finders -> libc.a(nss_deffinder.o) -> dlclose,dlsym,dlopen (undefined) Added dlsym.o to libc.a: void *dlopen() { return 0; } void *dlsym() { return 0; } int dlclose() { return -1; } ---------------------------------------------------------- This comment comes from the documentation of kpathsea lib Regards, Thanh _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 10-Mar-2001 9:14:46-GMT,2765;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA23038 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 02:14:45 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 9742D2AE8E; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 10:15:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2A9Eqm31885 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 10:14:52 +0100 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA14044 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 10:14:32 +0100 (MET) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA16543 for pdftex@tug.org; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 10:14:32 +0100 (MET) From: Han The Thanh To: PDF-TeX mailing list Subject: Re: [pdftex] [bug] color names are not encoded correctly when including files Message-ID: <20010310101431.A16348@anxur.fi.muni.cz> References: <20010307173735.U22252@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20010307173735.U22252@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de>; from ms@artcom-gmbh.de on Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 05:37:35PM +0100 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 10:14:32 +0100 > when including pdf files which have color names which include a % > char (which must be encoded as '#25'), pdfTeX (Web2C 7.3.1) > 3.14159-0.14f-released-20000525 produces color names which > include a % -- which is incorrect. > > Enclosed are a small postscript file (seppercent.ps) which when > distilled (seppercent.pdf) and enclosed in latex (test1.tex) > produces an incorrent pdf (test1.pdf). The name of the color is > foo%bar (or foo#25bar). > > Any chance of fixing this? I uploaded a new version of pdftex which has this problem fixed. Please check it out at ftp://ftp.cstug.cz/pub/tex/local/cstug/thanh/pdftex/... (also submitted to the texlive5 server) Thanh _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 10-Mar-2001 18:48:46-GMT,5086;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA02808 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 11:48:44 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 095BD2AE93; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 19:49:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from bells.cs.ucl.ac.uk (bells.cs.ucl.ac.uk [128.16.5.31]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f2AImfm01249 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 19:48:41 +0100 Received: from klingon.cs.ucl.ac.uk by bells.cs.ucl.ac.uk with local SMTP id ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 18:47:36 +0000 To: Han The Thanh Cc: pdftex@tug.org, W.Langdon@cs.ucl.ac.uk Subject: Re: [pdftex] make (pdftex-20010126) pdftexbin fails on SUN gcc 2.95.2 In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 09 Mar 2001 22:37:46 +0100." <20010309223746.A3168@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Message-ID: <11358.984250055@cs.ucl.ac.uk> From: Bill LANGDON Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 18:47:35 +0000 Dear Thanh, Many thanks for your helpful and speedy reply. I have progressed the installation a little with your help. I have create and compiled dlsym.c as you suggested and inserted it into a copy of libc.a "make" fails kpsewhich as before as expected and then I manually run: gcc -o kpsewhich -static kpsewhich.o ../kpathsea/STATIC/libkpathsea.a /tmp/pdftex/libc.a -lm which works fine and then I rerun make. It progresses much futher but then fails with: gcc -o pdftex -static pdftexini.o pdftex0.o pdftex1.o pdftex2.o pdftex3.o pdftexextra.o pdftexdir/libpdf.a ../../libs/libtiff/libtiff.a ../../libs/libpng/libpng.a ../../libs/zlib/libz.a ../../libs/xpdf/xpdf/libxpdf.a ../../libs/xpdf/goo/libGoo.a lib/lib.a ../kpathsea/STATIC/libkpathsea.a /tmp/pdftex/libc.a /opt/gcc295/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.7/2.95.2/libgcc.a -lm Undefined first referenced symbol in file __builtin_delete pdftexdir/libpdf.a(pdftoepdf.o) __builtin_new pdftexdir/libpdf.a(pdftoepdf.o) __rtti_user ../../libs/xpdf/xpdf/libxpdf.a(GfxState.o) terminate(void) pdftexdir/libpdf.a(pdftoepdf.o) __builtin_vec_new pdftexdir/libpdf.a(pdftoepdf.o) __builtin_vec_delete ../../libs/xpdf/goo/libGoo.a(GString.o) __rtti_si ../../libs/xpdf/xpdf/libxpdf.a(GfxState.o) ld: fatal: Symbol referencing errors. No output written to pdftex collect2: ld returned 1 exit status The only doucmentation about these missing routines suggests they should be in /opt/gcc295/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.7/2.95.2/libgcc.a but they arent. Possibly the compilation should be done with -fnobuiltin? -fPIC? Is this what Himanshu Gohel meant by "the configuration didn't go correctly" ? I'm afraid I did not understand your comments on "static linking on solaris:" As always any help would be most welcome Thank you Bill > > I have also tried restarting from scratch and running > > configure --datadir=/opt/tex/lib --with-pdftex > > (We have LaTeX installed in /opt/tex/bin/latex) > > But make stopped again on kpsewhich > > > > configure produced several lines like: > > running /bin/sh ./configure --datadir=/opt/tex/lib --with-pdftex --prefix= > /usr/local/teTeX --cache-file=../.././config.cache --srcdir=. > > > > "--prefix=/usr/local/teTeX" > > Is a bit suspicious? I don't have write access to it. > > So I tried again (from the start) with > > configure --datadir=/opt/tex/lib --with-pdftex --prefix=/tmp/pdftex > > but make failed on kpsewhich as before:-( > > I also have this problem on a sun machine. The solution is following: > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > static linking on solaris: > libkpathsea.a(tilde.o) -> getpwnam -> libc.a(getpwnam.o) -> _fgetpwent_r -> > libc.a(getpwnam_r.o) -> _nss_getent -> libc.a(nss_common.o) -> > nss_default_finders -> libc.a(nss_deffinder.o) -> > dlclose,dlsym,dlopen (undefined) > > Added dlsym.o to libc.a: > void *dlopen() { return 0; } > void *dlsym() { return 0; } > int dlclose() { return -1; } > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > This comment comes from the documentation of kpathsea lib > > Regards, > Thanh _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 10-Mar-2001 23:27:46-GMT,3216;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA07785 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 16:27:45 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id D873C2AE99; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 00:28:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.bremen.pop.de (mars.hamburg.pop.de [195.222.210.104]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2ANRim02193 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 00:27:44 +0100 Received: from uucp by mail.bremen.pop.de with local-rmail (Exim 2.02 #2) id 14bsrk-0006Y2-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 00:33:40 +0100 Received: (from uartcom@localhost) by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id AAA16477 for tug.org!pdftex; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 00:25:05 +0100 (MET) >Received: by artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de (Smail3.2 #1) id m14bsjA-004wwRC; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 00:24:48 +0100 (MET) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] Pdflatex and seminar Message-ID: <20010311002448.A24579@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mail-Followup-To: pdftex@tug.org References: <3AA8FA20.8FAC04DF@essex.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from yrchen@bu.edu on Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 10:57:28AM -0500 Organization: ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Strasse 8, D-28359 Bremen X-Disclaimer: The views expressed are my own and not necessarily that of my employers. Received: from artcom8 by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 00:25 MET Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 00:24:48 +0100 On 2001-03-09 10:57:28 -0500, Ying-Jui Chen wrote: > Here is what I found out from the web and is used as my preamble: > \documentclass[semrot,12pt]{seminar} > > \newif\ifpdf > \ifx\pdfoutput\undefined > \pdffalse > \else > \pdfoutput=1 > \pdftrue > \fi > > \ifpdf > \usepackage[pdftex]{graphicx} > \pdfcompresslevel=9 > \pdfpagewidth=11truein %297truemm % your milage may vary.... > \pdfpageheight=8.5truein %210truemm > \pdfhorigin=1truein % default value(?), but doesn't work without > \pdfvorigin=1truein % default value(?), but doesn't work without While this may work, it's better to use the geometry package to set page dimensions. It even has a pdftex option. Best regards Martin -- http://www.tm.oneiros.de/calendar/2001/ _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 11-Mar-2001 3:21:46-GMT,3940;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA11949 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 20:21:45 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 16E502AE9D; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 04:22:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.de [194.221.183.20]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f2B3LXm03057 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 04:21:33 +0100 Received: (qmail 24549 invoked by uid 0); 11 Mar 2001 03:21:12 -0000 Received: from brln-3e36e4dd.pool.mediaways.net (HELO gmx.de) (62.54.228.221) by mail.gmx.net (mp025-rz3) with SMTP; 11 Mar 2001 03:21:12 -0000 Message-ID: <3AAAEF28.57F60FDB@gmx.de> From: Steffen Evers X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.18pre21 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org, tex2pdf-announce@lists.berlios.de, tex2pdf-devel@lists.berlios.de, pdftex@tug.org Cc: Constant , Alvaro Tejero Cantero , Matej Cepl , Garrick Chien WELSH , ben , Philip Ducharme , baruch.even@writeme.com, fredg@animeworld.org, humbert@hagen.de, amnissin@lut.fi, bpgupta@its.caltech.edu, faizal@mfaizal.net, shecter@darmstadt.gmd.de, olaf.gabler@gmx.de, rainer.dorsch@informatik.uni-stuttgart.de, wolfgang.engelmann@uni-tuebingen.de Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [pdftex] tex2pdf (former lyx2pdf) new versions !!! Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 04:21:12 +0100 Hello everyone, after several month break I was driven to continue the development of tex2pdf by a lot of thankful feedback and patches. I stopped my work because I thought that the script is no longer demanded because of LyX' built-in PDF export, but than I realized that LyX is only calling pdflatex which tex2pdf does as well. The image translation, etc. has to be done manually without tex2pdf. So, it is still usefull! Stable version: lyx2pdf 1.8 Development version: tex2pdf 2.0 beta 2 The beta should work properly as well!! Highlights: * (tex2pdf) works with LyX and LaTeX files as input * supports thumbpdf to generate thumbnails of all pages * parses included LaTeX files for images * support for pstex_t files with included EPS image * parameter section to adjust to your personel flavor * bibtex support I have opened a project at BerliOS to make life easier. Have a look if you like: http://developer.berlios.de/projects/tex2pdf/ There are two mailing lists at BerliOS as well: http://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/tex2pdf-announce http://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/tex2pdf-devel Join them if you like. I will announce future releases only on my mailing lists, though, I might post it on the pdftex and lyx-users mailing list, too, as long as nobody minds. For LyX 1.1.6 users: Using tex2pdf as LyX export should work but requires the flag originaldir. Unfortunately this flag seems not to be recognized. So you still have to do it externally. Have fun with it!!! Bye, Steffen _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 11-Mar-2001 10:23:45-GMT,3859;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA19207 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 03:23:44 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 602B22AEB1; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 11:24:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2BANFm09588 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 11:23:15 +0100 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA20319; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 11:22:52 +0100 (MET) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA28657; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 11:22:51 +0100 (MET) From: Han The Thanh To: Bill LANGDON Cc: Han The Thanh , pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] make (pdftex-20010126) pdftexbin fails on SUN gcc 2.95.2 Message-ID: <20010311112250.B28363@anxur.fi.muni.cz> References: <20010309223746.A3168@anxur.fi.muni.cz> <11358.984250055@cs.ucl.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <11358.984250055@cs.ucl.ac.uk>; from W.Langdon@cs.ucl.ac.uk on Sat, Mar 10, 2001 at 06:47:35PM +0000 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 11:22:50 +0100 Dear Bill, > Many thanks for your helpful and speedy reply. I have > progressed the installation a little with your help. > > I have create and compiled dlsym.c as you suggested and inserted it > into a copy of libc.a "make" fails kpsewhich as before as expected yes you need to put the modified libc.a somewhere so the linker will find it before the system' one. > gcc -o pdftex -static pdftexini.o pdftex0.o pdftex1.o pdftex2.o pdftex3.o pdftexextra.o pdftexdir/libpdf.a ../../libs/libtiff/libtiff.a ../../libs/libpng/libpng.a ../../libs/zlib/libz.a ../../libs/xpdf/xpdf/libxpdf.a ../../libs/xpdf/goo/libGoo.a lib/lib.a ../kpathsea/STATIC/libkpathsea.a /tmp/pdftex/libc.a /opt/gcc295/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.7/2.95.2/libgcc.a -lm > Undefined first referenced > symbol in file > __builtin_delete pdftexdir/libpdf.a(pdftoepdf.o) > __builtin_new pdftexdir/libpdf.a(pdftoepdf.o) > __rtti_user ../../libs/xpdf/xpdf/libxpdf.a(GfxState.o) > terminate(void) pdftexdir/libpdf.a(pdftoepdf.o) > __builtin_vec_new pdftexdir/libpdf.a(pdftoepdf.o) > __builtin_vec_delete ../../libs/xpdf/goo/libGoo.a(GString.o) > __rtti_si ../../libs/xpdf/xpdf/libxpdf.a(GfxState.o) > ld: fatal: Symbol referencing errors. No output written to pdftex > collect2: ld returned 1 exit status I think that someone had this problem as well and the solution was to use g++ instead of gcc for linking. Anyway, I put a binary version for solris of the latest pdftex on the same location (ftp://ftp.cstug.cz/pub/tex/local/cstug/thanh/pdftex/...) Regards, Thanh _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 11-Mar-2001 10:38:46-GMT,4607;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA19450 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 03:38:44 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 9F2A02AEA1; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 11:39:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from moutvdom01.kundenserver.de (moutvdom01.kundenserver.de [195.20.224.200]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2BAcqm09697 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 11:38:52 +0100 Received: from [195.20.224.209] (helo=mrvdom02.schlund.de) by moutvdom01.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 14c3F9-0003xs-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 11:38:31 +0100 Received: from pd9502cf8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([217.80.44.248] helo=servus) by mrvdom02.schlund.de with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 14c3Dm-0000ou-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 11:37:06 +0100 From: "Ulrich Dirr" To: "pdfTeX" Subject: [pdfTeX] using typesetting features Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 11:36:05 +0100 Hi. Now that I've managed my beginner's problems running fpTeX and pdfTeX correctly I'm really impressed by the new typesetting features in pdfTeX! It improved the appearance of the typeset page significantly. Still I've some questions I could not solve by myself ... (1) Are there command line options for pdfTeX so that more information on, e.g. TFM file loading, paths, etc. are provided (in conjunction with the expanding feature)? (2) I've a problem with graphics inclusion. I used Destiller to convert a EPS to PDF. But when viewing, Acrobat complains about "not understanding the color model". It's a PhotoShop duotone-EPS. And I'm wondering what happens to the quality of the picture by this conversion (having high quality offset printing in mind). (3) To reduce .STY file inclusion (in this case: letterspace.sty) I would like to use \pdffontexpand such that it's possible to apply tracking only for my chapter headings (where a small amount of tracking *is* useful). But I don't know how! My main problem -- and this is true for (4), too -- is that I don't know how I can use these plain TeX font selecting commands (like, e.g. \font\xxx=tir at 10dd stretch nn shrink mm step i) together with LaTeX2e's font selecting scheme (where I define the font family and the size will be context-sensitive). ??? (4) Besides my main setup for the body type I'm using another font family. Now I would like to setup this font family so that character protruding and expanding is working similar to the body font (with different values of course; and variants like italic, bold, bolditalic). Because of my confusion regarding the plain/LaTeX2e font selection method used, I hope someone can help me! Especially I don't know how I can get the same result of macro \setupfont for the new font family (\setprotcode\font is confusing me). My defintions (stolen from Thanh's appendix of the dissertation) so far: [...] \input{protcode} \input{efcode} \pdfprotrudechars=2 \pdfadjustspacing=2 \def\setupfont{ \setprotcode\font \resetefcode\font \pdffontexpand\font 30 30 10 1000 } \def\setupfam{ \setupfont {\itshape\setupfont} {\scshape\setupfont} {\bfseries\setupfont} {\itshape\bfseries\setupfont} } \AtBeginDocument{% \setupfam {\small\setupfont} {\footnotesize\setupfont} } Any help appreciated! Regards, Ulrich Dirr -- Art & Satz Ulrich Dirr Arnimstraße 9 81369 München Germany/Deutschland -- fon (+49 89) 743 30 60 fax (+49 89) 743 30 61 email ud@art-satz.de -- -=*:-) _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 11-Mar-2001 21:52:46-GMT,2959;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA01001 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 14:52:44 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id EE3232B9C7; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 22:53:00 +0100 (CET) Received: from dnsman.oce.orst.edu (dnsman.OCE.ORST.EDU [128.193.64.33]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2BLqgm12084 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 22:52:43 +0100 Received: from hecate (dhcp-96-43.apl.washington.edu [128.95.96.43]) by dnsman.oce.orst.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id NAA22913 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 13:52:18 -0800 (PST) From: "Jody M. Klymak" To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Subject: [pdftex] Poorly formed PDF file? Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 13:58:47 -0000 Hello, I am having trouble including some PDF files into my PDFLaTeX documents. The resulting PDF files look OK in in Acrobat, but will not print to post-script printers, choking when they reach the offending figure. Similarly, creating a postscript file in Acrobat makes a PS file that Ghostscript cannot interpret. I suspect that my graphics preparation path is to blame - in particular Matlab eps file->Illustrator PDFfile -> PDFLaTeX. Also, note that GSView manages to print the PDF file, but at a very slow speed. Thats fine for me, but I want people to be able to use these documents, and expecting them to get ghostscript is unreasonable. Any hints would be appreciated. I've put the offending files at ftp://ftp.apl.washington.edu/pub/incoming/jklymak/test/test.tex ftp://ftp.apl.washington.edu/pub/incoming/jklymak/test/test.pdf ftp://ftp.apl.washington.edu/pub/incoming/jklymak/test/test.ps ftp://ftp.apl.washington.edu/pub/incoming/jklymak/test/kimap1.pdf I am using fpTeX 0.4: This is pdfTeX, Version 3.14159-14h-pretest-20010210 (Web2c 7.3.3.1) Thanks, Jody _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 12-Mar-2001 7:47:45-GMT,3462;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA12371 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 00:47:44 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id AA3FE2B9CE; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 08:48:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.iitp.ru (mail.iitp.ru [195.19.65.51]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2C7lAm14268 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 08:47:10 +0100 Received: from venets (venets.iitp.ru [195.19.65.3]) by mail.iitp.ru (8.11.2/Our config) with SMTP id f2C7klc58460; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 10:46:47 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from venets@iitp.ru) Message-ID: <001301c0aac8$90852580$034113c3@iitp.ru> From: "Vladimir Venets" To: "Jody M. Klymak" , References: Subject: Re: [pdftex] Poorly formed PDF file? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 10:46:31 +0300 I print your pdf file on HP LaserJetIID (very old) without any problems. Regards, Vladimir Venets ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jody M. Klymak" To: Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2001 4:58 PM Subject: [pdftex] Poorly formed PDF file? > > Hello, > > I am having trouble including some PDF files into my PDFLaTeX documents. > The resulting PDF files look OK in in Acrobat, but will not print to > post-script printers, choking when they reach the offending figure. > Similarly, creating a postscript file in Acrobat makes a PS file that > Ghostscript cannot interpret. > > I suspect that my graphics preparation path is to blame - in particular > Matlab eps file->Illustrator PDFfile -> PDFLaTeX. > > Also, note that GSView manages to print the PDF file, but at a very slow > speed. Thats fine for me, but I want people to be able to use these > documents, and expecting them to get ghostscript is unreasonable. > > Any hints would be appreciated. I've put the offending files at > ftp://ftp.apl.washington.edu/pub/incoming/jklymak/test/test.tex > ftp://ftp.apl.washington.edu/pub/incoming/jklymak/test/test.pdf > ftp://ftp.apl.washington.edu/pub/incoming/jklymak/test/test.ps > ftp://ftp.apl.washington.edu/pub/incoming/jklymak/test/kimap1.pdf > > I am using fpTeX 0.4: > This is pdfTeX, Version 3.14159-14h-pretest-20010210 (Web2c 7.3.3.1) > > Thanks, Jody > > _______________________________________________ > pdftex mailing list > pdftex@tug.org > http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex > _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 12-Mar-2001 7:59:46-GMT,1858;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA12565 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 00:59:45 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 925FF2B9D3; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 09:00:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from esemetz.ese-metz.fr (esemetz.ese-metz.fr [193.48.224.212]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2C7xCm14387; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 08:59:12 +0100 Received: from NEVERYON.ese-metz.fr (neveryon.ese-metz.fr [193.48.224.220]) by esemetz.ese-metz.fr (8.11.0/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2C7x4l29345; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 08:59:04 +0100 To: pdftex@tug.org, fptex@tug.org From: Fabrice Popineau Message-ID: Lines: 6 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090001 (Oort Gnus v0.01) XEmacs/21.2 (Thelxepeia (GTK Inside)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [pdftex] newest pdftex win32 version Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: 12 Mar 2001 08:58:32 +0100 I have updated the standalone win32 binaries for texlive : ftp://ftp.dante.de/pub/fptex/standalone/pdftex-0.14h-pretest-20010310-win32.zip -- Fabrice _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 12-Mar-2001 10:02:45-GMT,4289;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA14676 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 03:02:44 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 28AD32B9D5; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 11:03:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2CA27m15025 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 11:02:07 +0100 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA03388; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 11:01:46 +0100 (MET) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA13989; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 11:01:45 +0100 (MET) From: Han The Thanh To: Ulrich Dirr Cc: pdfTeX Subject: Re: [pdfTeX] using typesetting features Message-ID: <20010312110145.B12864@anxur.fi.muni.cz> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from ud@art-satz.de on Sun, Mar 11, 2001 at 11:36:05AM +0100 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 11:01:45 +0100 > Still I've some questions I could not solve by myself ... > > (1) > Are there command line options for pdfTeX so that more information on, > e.g. TFM file loading, paths, etc. are provided (in conjunction with > the expanding feature)? unfortunately no. > (2) > I've a problem with graphics inclusion. I used Destiller to convert a > EPS to PDF. But when viewing, Acrobat complains about "not > understanding the color model". It's a PhotoShop duotone-EPS. > > And I'm wondering what happens to the quality of the picture by this > conversion (having high quality offset printing in mind). I am sorry that I cannot say anything here. > (3) > To reduce .STY file inclusion (in this case: letterspace.sty) I would > like to use \pdffontexpand such that it's possible to apply tracking > only for my chapter headings (where a small amount of tracking *is* > useful). But I don't know how! My main problem -- and this is true for > (4), too -- is that I don't know how I can use these plain TeX font > selecting commands (like, e.g. \font\xxx=tir at 10dd stretch nn shrink > mm step i) together with LaTeX2e's font selecting scheme (where I > define the font family and the size will be context-sensitive). ??? using \pdffontexpand is *not* the way to letterspace a font. I recommend using a virtual font for that purpose. It requires the extra work to generate a font (and to learn fontinst if you didn't happen to use it), but it is the most robust solution I know so far. In most common case, however the soul package is sufficient. > (4) > Besides my main setup for the body type I'm using another font family. > > Now I would like to setup this font family so that character > protruding and expanding is working similar to the body font (with > different values of course; and variants like italic, bold, > bolditalic). > > Because of my confusion regarding the plain/LaTeX2e font selection > method used, I hope someone can help me! > > Especially I don't know how I can get the same result of macro > \setupfont for the new font family (\setprotcode\font is confusing > me). \setprotcode\font means "set up the margin kerns for the current font", so to active a new font family one can say eg: {\fontfamily{ptm}\selectfont \setupfam} HTH, Thanh _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 12-Mar-2001 10:50:45-GMT,2785;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA15530 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 03:50:44 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id D46A62B9CD; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 11:51:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from zambeze.ujf-grenoble.fr (zambeze.ujf-grenoble.fr [152.77.2.3]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2CAoKm15336 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 11:50:20 +0100 Received: from mozart.ujf-grenoble.Fr (mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.241.5]) by zambeze.ujf-grenoble.fr (Pro-8.9.3/8.9.3/Configured by AD & JE 25/10/1999) with ESMTP id LAA00083; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 11:49:54 +0100 (MET) Received: (from bouche@localhost) by mozart.ujf-grenoble.Fr (8.9.3/8.8.5) id LAA00830; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 11:49:53 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <200103121049.LAA00830@mozart.ujf-grenoble.Fr> From: Thierry Bouche To: Han The Thanh Cc: Ulrich Dirr , pdfTeX Subject: Re: [pdfTeX] using typesetting features In-Reply-To: <20010312110145.B12864@anxur.fi.muni.cz> References: <20010312110145.B12864@anxur.fi.muni.cz> X-Mailer: VM 6.22 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 11:49:53 +0100 (MET) Concernant « Re: [pdfTeX] using typesetting features », Han The Thanh écrit : « » > Still I've some questions I could not solve by myself ... » > » > (1) » > Are there command line options for pdfTeX so that more information on, » > e.g. TFM file loading, paths, etc. are provided (in conjunction with » > the expanding feature)? » » unfortunately no. well, not at the tex level, but with kpathsea debug options, you can know quite precisely what happens (pdftex -kp 6 .. for a start) Thierry Bouche __ « Ils vivent pour vivre, et nous, hélas ! nous vivons pour savoir. » Charles Baudelaire, Paris. _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 12-Mar-2001 15:25:44-GMT,2742;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA20983 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 08:25:43 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 3B4152B9D9; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 16:26:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de (waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.4.42]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2CFPpm16739 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 16:25:51 +0100 Received: from ls1sol02.cs.uni-dortmund.de (ls1sol02.cs.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.56.62]) by waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de with ESMTP id QAA29643 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 16:25:29 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <200103121525.QAA14983@ls1sol02.cs.uni-dortmund.de> Received: from ls1sol02 (ls1sol02 [129.217.56.62]) by ls1sol02.cs.uni-dortmund.de id QAA14983; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 16:25:28 +0100 (MET) From: Stephan.Lehmke@cs.uni-dortmund.de Reply-To: Stephan.Lehmke@cs.uni-dortmund.de Subject: Re: [pdftex] Pdflatex and seminar To: pdftex@tug.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-MD5: 6RO+h9ynRZy+WgPDYbEa+Q== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by tug.daimi.au.dk id f2CFPpm16739 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 16:25:28 +0100 (MET) Martin Schröder wrote on Sun, 11 Mar 2001 00:24:48 +0100: > > While this may work, it's better to use the geometry package to > set page dimensions. It even has a pdftex option. How exactly do you get geometry and seminar to cooperate? \documentclass[letterpaper,landscape]{seminar} \usepackage[pdftex]{geometry} \begin{document} \begin{slide} Test. \end{slide} \end{document} doesn't look healthy. Playing with geometry's mag option didn't seem to have any effect (but maybe I've been doing it wrong). regards Stephan -- Stephan Lehmke Stephan.Lehmke@cs.uni-dortmund.de Fachbereich Informatik, LS I Tel. +49 231 755 6434 Universitaet Dortmund FAX 6555 D-44221 Dortmund, Germany _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 12-Mar-2001 15:44:45-GMT,2106;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA21415 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 08:44:44 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 2425B2B9D1; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 16:45:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from mr2.tufts.edu (mr2.tufts.edu [130.64.1.39]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2CFiKm16879 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 16:44:21 +0100 Received: from topato (208-59-178-3.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com [208.59.178.3]) by mr2.tufts.edu (PMDF V5.2-33 #37773) with SMTP id <0GA300M51D1A7K@mr2.tufts.edu> for pdftex@tug.org; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 10:43:58 -0500 (EST) From: Douglas Melniker To: pdftex@tug.org Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Subject: [pdftex] continuous pages in acrobat Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 10:41:49 -0500 Hello, Is there a command to put in your pdflatex document so that when the pdf file is opened in Acrobat it will default to "Continuous" rather than "Single page?" Thank you, Doug Melniker _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 12-Mar-2001 17:02:46-GMT,2541;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA23426 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 10:02:44 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 86A902B9DF; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 18:03:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from bassia.wanadoo.fr (smtp-rt-5.wanadoo.fr [193.252.19.159]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2CH2Bm17285 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 18:02:11 +0100 Received: from villosa.wanadoo.fr (193.252.19.122) by bassia.wanadoo.fr; 12 Mar 2001 18:01:01 +0100 Received: from [194.2.149.159] (194.2.149.159) by villosa.wanadoo.fr; 12 Mar 2001 18:00:20 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: michel.bovani@pop.wanadoo.fr Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: To: Douglas Melniker , pdftex@tug.org From: Michel Bovani Subject: Re: [pdftex] continuous pages in acrobat Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 18:00:04 +0100 At 10:41 -0500 12/03/01, Douglas Melniker wrote: >Hello, > >Is there a command to put in your pdflatex document so that when the pdf >file is opened in Acrobat it will default to "Continuous" rather than >"Single page?" \usepackage{hyperref} \hypersetup{pdfpagelayout=SinglePage} -> Display one page at a time. \hypersetup{pdfpagelayout=OneColumn} -> Display the pages in one column. \hypersetup{pdfpagelayout=TwoColumnLeft} -> Display the pages in two columns, with odd-numbered pages on the left. \hypersetup{pdfpagelayout=TwoColumnRight} -> Display the pages in two columns, with odd-numbered pages on the right. -- Michel Bovani _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 12-Mar-2001 17:03:25-GMT,3970;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA23454 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 10:03:24 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 7668E2B9E6; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 18:03:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from dnsman.oce.orst.edu (dnsman.OCE.ORST.EDU [128.193.64.33]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2CH2xm17290 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 18:02:59 +0100 Received: from hecate (dhcp-96-43.apl.washington.edu [128.95.96.43]) by dnsman.oce.orst.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id JAA05196; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 09:02:33 -0800 (PST) From: "Jody M. Klymak" To: "Vladimir Venets" , Subject: RE: [pdftex] Poorly formed PDF file? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 In-Reply-To: <001301c0aac8$90852580$034113c3@iitp.ru> Importance: Normal Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 09:09:03 -0000 Hello Vladimir, Yes, I have no trouble printing it to a HPGL printer either. It is a PDF->Postscript problem. Thanks, Jody -----Original Message----- From: pdftex-admin@tug.org [mailto:pdftex-admin@tug.org]On Behalf Of Vladimir Venets Sent: Monday, March 12, 2001 7:47 AM To: Jody M. Klymak; pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] Poorly formed PDF file? I print your pdf file on HP LaserJetIID (very old) without any problems. Regards, Vladimir Venets ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jody M. Klymak" To: Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2001 4:58 PM Subject: [pdftex] Poorly formed PDF file? > > Hello, > > I am having trouble including some PDF files into my PDFLaTeX documents. > The resulting PDF files look OK in in Acrobat, but will not print to > post-script printers, choking when they reach the offending figure. > Similarly, creating a postscript file in Acrobat makes a PS file that > Ghostscript cannot interpret. > > I suspect that my graphics preparation path is to blame - in particular > Matlab eps file->Illustrator PDFfile -> PDFLaTeX. > > Also, note that GSView manages to print the PDF file, but at a very slow > speed. Thats fine for me, but I want people to be able to use these > documents, and expecting them to get ghostscript is unreasonable. > > Any hints would be appreciated. I've put the offending files at > ftp://ftp.apl.washington.edu/pub/incoming/jklymak/test/test.tex > ftp://ftp.apl.washington.edu/pub/incoming/jklymak/test/test.pdf > ftp://ftp.apl.washington.edu/pub/incoming/jklymak/test/test.ps > ftp://ftp.apl.washington.edu/pub/incoming/jklymak/test/kimap1.pdf > > I am using fpTeX 0.4: > This is pdfTeX, Version 3.14159-14h-pretest-20010210 (Web2c 7.3.3.1) > > Thanks, Jody > > _______________________________________________ > pdftex mailing list > pdftex@tug.org > http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex > _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 12-Mar-2001 18:37:45-GMT,3942;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA26244 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 11:37:44 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 992302B9E1; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 19:38:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from cod.mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca (cod.mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca [142.176.61.253]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f2CIbvm17757 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 19:37:57 +0100 Received: id OAA12125; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 14:38:35 -0400 Received: by gateway id <0GA300JIXL1NU1@bionet.bio.dfo.ca> for pdftex@tug.org; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 14:36:59 -0400 (AST) Received: by gateway id ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 14:36:58 -0400 Content-return: allowed From: "White, George" Subject: RE: [pdftex] Poorly formed PDF file? To: "'Jody M. Klymak '" , "'pdftex@tug.org '" Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 14:36:56 -0400 We routinely create PDF files with Matlab EPS files, but converted using ghostscript (e.g., via eps2pdf) rather than Illustrator. I was able to print your test.pdf, using acroread 4.05 on SGI Irix to an HP LJ5SiMX-PS printer. I think your problem is with the PS driver or the printer (perhaps it is short on memory -- that has been a constant problem for us). The matlab graphics are quite detailed for the size at which your are printing and the purpose (to locate a study area). You could try to use a less detailed coastline. Gv displays an error message when I try to view your test.ps file: ERROR: undefined OFFENDING COMMAND: get STACK: /DeviceRenderingInfo -dictionary- /DeviceRenderingInfo -mark- Your PS file was generated with a driver for a Tek850DX printer, which I don't have. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jody M. Klymak" To: Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2001 4:58 PM Subject: [pdftex] Poorly formed PDF file? Hello, I am having trouble including some PDF files into my PDFLaTeX documents. The resulting PDF files look OK in in Acrobat, but will not print to post-script printers, choking when they reach the offending figure. Similarly, creating a postscript file in Acrobat makes a PS file that Ghostscript cannot interpret. I suspect that my graphics preparation path is to blame - in particular Matlab eps file->Illustrator PDFfile -> PDFLaTeX. Also, note that GSView manages to print the PDF file, but at a very slow speed. Thats fine for me, but I want people to be able to use these documents, and expecting them to get ghostscript is unreasonable. Any hints would be appreciated. I've put the offending files at ftp://ftp.apl.washington.edu/pub/incoming/jklymak/test/test.tex ftp://ftp.apl.washington.edu/pub/incoming/jklymak/test/test.pdf ftp://ftp.apl.washington.edu/pub/incoming/jklymak/test/test.ps ftp://ftp.apl.washington.edu/pub/incoming/jklymak/test/kimap1.pdf I am using fpTeX 0.4: This is pdfTeX, Version 3.14159-14h-pretest-20010210 (Web2c 7.3.3.1) Thanks, Jody _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 13-Mar-2001 11:17:48-GMT,2284;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA20892 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 04:17:47 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 6DA992AE8C; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 12:18:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from matthieu.taktile.com (APastourelles-101-2-3-178.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.253.241.178]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2DBHPm21484 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 12:17:25 +0100 Received: from matthieu by matthieu.taktile.com with local (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian)) id 14cmnX-0006Iu-00 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 12:17:03 +0100 To: pdftex@tug.org Message-ID: <20010313121703.A24227@matthieu.taktile.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i From: matthieu foillard Subject: [pdftex] PS pictures Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 12:17:03 +0100 hello, i've add some ps picture to a latex document with a command like this : \includegraphics[width=4.939cm]{./images/pro.ps} the dvi/ps document is ok, i can see the picture but when i convert it to PDF, this picture isn't present, why ? moreover, i'm using The Gimp to convert origninal (tiff) image to ps but the ps picture is really poor quality, how can i improve quality for both screen display and printing ? thank for your help, -- Matthieu Foillard TAKTILE, 8 rue Euryale Dehaynin/75019 PARIS TEL 01 40 18 42 53 GSM 06 86 57 41 70 -- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 13-Mar-2001 12:52:04-GMT,2277;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA22810 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 05:52:02 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 61F9F2AE8C; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 13:52:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from narmada.river-valley.com ([202.88.232.42]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2DCotm21864 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 13:50:56 +0100 Received: from localhost (IDENT:cvr@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by narmada.river-valley.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA04369; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 17:46:54 +0530 From: Radhakrishnan C V To: matthieu foillard Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] PS pictures In-Reply-To: <20010313121703.A24227@matthieu.taktile.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 17:46:54 +0530 (IST) On Tue, 13 Mar 2001, matthieu foillard wrote: [...] : moreover, i'm using The Gimp to convert origninal (tiff) image to ps : but the ps picture is really poor quality, how can i improve quality : for both screen display and printing ? pdfTeX now supports inclusion of graphic files in *.tif format. So you can directly include your graphics: \includegraphics[width=4.939cm]{./images/pro.tif} -- Radhakrishnan __________________________________________________________________ I have signed it at http://FreeDevelopers.Net/freedomdec, did you? _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 13-Mar-2001 14:46:45-GMT,2697;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA25434 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 07:46:44 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 9A4962AD02; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 15:47:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.bremen.pop.de (mars.hamburg.pop.de [195.222.210.104]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2DEkPm23755 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 15:46:25 +0100 Received: from uucp by mail.bremen.pop.de with local-rmail (Exim 2.02 #2) id 14cq9q-0002Np-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 15:52:18 +0100 Received: (from uartcom@localhost) by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id PAA13983 for tug.org!pdftex; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 15:43:06 +0100 (MET) >Received: by artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de (Smail3.2 #1) id m14cq0L-004wwSC; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 15:42:29 +0100 (MET) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= To: PDF-TeX mailing list Message-ID: <20010313154229.S22252@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mail-Followup-To: PDF-TeX mailing list Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Organization: ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Strasse 8, D-28359 Bremen X-Disclaimer: The views expressed are my own and not necessarily that of my employers. Received: from artcom8 by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 15:43 MET Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [pdftex] Problems with LARGE tiffs Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 15:42:29 +0100 pdfTeX (Web2C 7.3.1) 3.14159-0.14f-released-20000525 keeps all different tiffs of a document in memory at the same time. This causes problems with LARGE tiffs: I just tried to include a 63 MB tiff (tiger.ps in high resolution) 10 times under different names on a machine with 631 MB virtual memory. pdfTeX exited after the sixth tiff. Can this (IMHO bug) be fixed? Thanks in advance Martin -- http://www.tm.oneiros.de/calendar/2001/ _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 13-Mar-2001 15:21:44-GMT,2643;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA26338 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 08:21:43 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 49D982AE93; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 16:22:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2DFLhm27733 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 16:21:43 +0100 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA21623 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 16:21:21 +0100 (MET) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA26236 for pdftex@tug.org; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 16:21:20 +0100 (MET) From: Han The Thanh To: PDF-TeX mailing list Subject: Re: [pdftex] Problems with LARGE tiffs Message-ID: <20010313162120.A25882@anxur.fi.muni.cz> References: <20010313154229.S22252@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20010313154229.S22252@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de>; from ms@artcom-gmbh.de on Tue, Mar 13, 2001 at 03:42:29PM +0100 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 16:21:20 +0100 On Tue, Mar 13, 2001 at 03:42:29PM +0100, Martin Schröder wrote: > pdfTeX (Web2C 7.3.1) 3.14159-0.14f-released-20000525 keeps all > different tiffs of a document in memory at the same time. This > causes problems with LARGE tiffs: I just tried to include a 63 MB > tiff (tiger.ps in high resolution) 10 times under different names > on a machine with 631 MB virtual memory. pdfTeX exited after the > sixth tiff. > > Can this (IMHO bug) be fixed? my decision to support tiff was rather a disaster. Tip: don't use tiff; use png of jpeg or pdf instead. Thanh _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 13-Mar-2001 15:26:46-GMT,2027;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA26508 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 08:26:45 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 0E7D42AE92; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 16:27:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp1.nikoma.de (smtp1.nikoma.de [212.122.128.19]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2DFQGm27817 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 16:26:16 +0100 Received: from bigfoot.com (dialin118.pg7-nt.stuttgart.nikoma.de [213.54.62.118]) by smtp1.nikoma.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA22677 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 16:25:49 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from MartinTauchmann@bigfoot.com) Message-ID: <3AAE3AD2.190F403F@bigfoot.com> From: Martin Tauchmann Organization: http://MartinTauchmann.home.pages.de X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16 i686) X-Accept-Language: de, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [pdftex] texi2pdf with hyperref Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 16:20:50 +0100 @url and @email does not work with file "pdftex/texinfo/pdftexinfo.tex" Is it possible to use the hyperref-package in texinfo? PS: Please send me a CC. -- Regards, (S)Mar+y _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 13-Mar-2001 16:23:46-GMT,3102;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA28137 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 09:23:44 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 5E8252AE8D; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 17:24:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from aleph.net.uniovi.es (aleph.net.uniovi.es [156.35.11.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2DGNLm28205 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 17:23:24 +0100 Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON.aleph.net.uniovi.es by aleph.net.uniovi.es (PMDF V6.0-24 #45227) id <01K15MMKYKDS005OPD@aleph.net.uniovi.es> for pdftex@tug.org; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 17:21:46 +0100 (MET) Received: from bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es (bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es [156.35.56.38]) by aleph.net.uniovi.es (PMDF V6.0-24 #45227) with ESMTP id <01K15MMJMX9S007BFO@aleph.net.uniovi.es>; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 17:21:44 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost (carmenes@localhost) by bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f2DGMO227972; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 17:22:25 +0100 From: Ricardo Sanchez Carmenes Subject: Re: [pdftex] Problems with LARGE tiffs In-reply-to: <20010313162120.A25882@anxur.fi.muni.cz> X-Sender: carmenes@bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es To: Han The Thanh Cc: PDF-TeX mailing list Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 17:22:24 +0100 (CET) On Tue, 13 Mar 2001, Han The Thanh wrote: > On Tue, Mar 13, 2001 at 03:42:29PM +0100, Martin Schröder wrote: > > pdfTeX (Web2C 7.3.1) 3.14159-0.14f-released-20000525 keeps all > > different tiffs of a document in memory at the same time. This > > causes problems with LARGE tiffs: I just tried to include a 63 MB > > tiff (tiger.ps in high resolution) 10 times under different names > > on a machine with 631 MB virtual memory. pdfTeX exited after the > > sixth tiff. > > > > Can this (IMHO bug) be fixed? > > my decision to support tiff was rather a disaster. > Tip: don't use tiff; use png of jpeg or pdf instead. Tip expansion: many packages allow to convert tiff (or other fig formats) to png without loss of quality. Example: tifftopnm and pnmtopng progs from the netpbm92 package. Regards, Ricardo. _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 13-Mar-2001 16:32:54-GMT,2615;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA28394 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 09:32:53 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id EBA1D2AE8C; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 17:33:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from interzone.ucc.ie (interzone.ucc.ie [143.239.1.134]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2DGWQm28302 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 17:32:26 +0100 Received: from swift.ucc.ie (swift.ucc.ie [143.239.211.48]) by interzone.ucc.ie (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA11742; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 16:32:27 GMT Received: (from dongen@localhost) by swift.ucc.ie (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id QAA14255; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 16:31:24 GMT From: Marc van Dongen To: Ricardo Sanchez Carmenes Cc: Han The Thanh , PDF-TeX mailing list Subject: Re: [pdftex] Problems with LARGE tiffs Message-ID: <20010313163124.H12604@cs.ucc.ie> References: <20010313162120.A25882@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from carmenes@bioquimica.uniovi.es on Tue, Mar 13, 2001 at 05:22:24PM +0100 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 16:31:24 +0000 Ricardo Sanchez Carmenes (carmenes@bioquimica.uniovi.es) wrote: [snip] : Tip expansion: many packages allow to convert tiff (or other fig formats) : to png without loss of quality. Example: tifftopnm and pnmtopng progs : from the netpbm92 package. Tip: You indicate how to convert from tiff to png without loss of quality. Unless I am overlooking something, you could add a few {\DeclareGraphicsRule}s. Regards, Marc van Dongen _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 13-Mar-2001 17:06:45-GMT,3466;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA29394 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 10:06:43 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 6F73A2AE8E; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 18:07:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp3.xs4all.nl (smtp3.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.132]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2DH5tm28467 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 18:06:45 +0100 Received: from server-1.pragma-ade.nl (s340-modem3211.dial.xs4all.nl [194.109.172.139]) by smtp3.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA08088; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 18:05:19 +0100 (CET) Received: from laptop-1 (laptop-1.pragma-ade.nl [200.1.1.25]) by server-1.pragma-ade.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA23801; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 17:48:35 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20010313174020.018afd10@server-1> X-Sender: hagen@server-1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) To: Han The Thanh From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: [pdftex] Problems with LARGE tiffs Cc: PDF-TeX mailing list In-Reply-To: <20010313162120.A25882@anxur.fi.muni.cz> References: <20010313154229.S22252@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <20010313154229.S22252@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.daimi.au.dk id f2DH5tm28467 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 17:40:20 +0100 At 04:21 PM 3/13/01 +0100, Han The Thanh wrote: >On Tue, Mar 13, 2001 at 03:42:29PM +0100, Martin Schröder wrote: >> pdfTeX (Web2C 7.3.1) 3.14159-0.14f-released-20000525 keeps all >> different tiffs of a document in memory at the same time. This >> causes problems with LARGE tiffs: I just tried to include a 63 MB >> tiff (tiger.ps in high resolution) 10 times under different names >> on a machine with 631 MB virtual memory. pdfTeX exited after the >> sixth tiff. >> >> Can this (IMHO bug) be fixed? > >my decision to support tiff was rather a disaster. >Tip: don't use tiff; use png of jpeg or pdf instead. Some final products demand cmyk and afaik png does not support that. An alternativ eis to convert the tiffs to pdf using distiller or gs and then include the pdf file. This is also much faster. Speed alone for me is a reason not to use tif inclusion. Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma@wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 13-Mar-2001 19:51:45-GMT,2171;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA04535 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 12:51:44 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id DDD012AE8F; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 20:52:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from lug.calpoly.edu (lug.ee.calpoly.edu [129.65.26.2]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2DJppm29221 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 20:51:51 +0100 Received: from localhost (wbrooks@localhost) by lug.calpoly.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA08390 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 11:51:29 -0800 From: Bill Brooks To: PDF-TeX mailing list Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [pdftex] pdftex produces blank documents on MacOS Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 11:51:29 -0800 (PST) Hi, I'm using pdfTeX (Web2C 7.3.1) 3.14159-0.13d on Linux; this version comes with the regular RedHat Linux 6.2. My problem is that any documents I produce with it are completely blank when viewed with Acrobat Reader 4.0 on the Apple Macintosh. Just to make sure it wasn't me, I downloaded the source for pdfTeX-FAQ.tex from the website and compiled it, same thing: views great on Linux and Solaris, but on the Mac it shows up as 21 blank pages. Has anyone else run into this? Any solutions? Bill _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 13-Mar-2001 21:35:44-GMT,2724;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA07613 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 14:35:42 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id F2A772AEEA; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 22:36:00 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.inka.de (quechua.inka.de [212.227.14.2]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2DLZ1m29738 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 22:35:01 +0100 Received: from moebius.inka.de by mail.inka.de with uucp (rmailwrap 0.4) id 14cwRD-000274-00; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 22:34:39 +0100 Received: (from skirsch@localhost) by moebius.inka.de (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) id TAA09737; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 19:55:16 +0100 From: Sebastian Marius Kirsch To: Hans Hagen Cc: Han The Thanh , PDF-TeX mailing list Subject: Re: [pdftex] Problems with LARGE tiffs Message-ID: <20010313195516.E564@moebius.inka.de> References: <20010313154229.S22252@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <20010313154229.S22252@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <20010313162120.A25882@anxur.fi.muni.cz> <3.0.6.32.20010313174020.018afd10@server-1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20010313174020.018afd10@server-1>; from pragma@wxs.nl on Tue, Mar 13, 2001 at 05:40:20PM +0100 X-MSMail-Priority: Low X-Priority: 5 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 19:55:16 +0100 On Tue, Mar 13, 2001 at 05:40:20PM +0100, Hans Hagen wrote: > Some final products demand cmyk and afaik png does not support that. An > alternativ eis to convert the tiffs to pdf using distiller or gs and then > include the pdf file. Tip: Use pdflib by Thomas Merz (http://www.pdflib.com/) for conversion to PDF. A generic tifftopdf script using pdflib is about 20 lines in Perl. -- Yours, Sebastian Kirsch C is for CLARA who wasted away D is for DESMOND thrown out of a sleigh _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 14-Mar-2001 8:27:44-GMT,2638;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA21423 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 01:27:43 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 0D3D52AE8D; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 09:28:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2E8Rum32113 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 09:27:56 +0100 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA25783; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 09:27:34 +0100 (MET) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA09747; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 09:27:30 +0100 (MET) From: Han The Thanh To: Bill Brooks Cc: PDF-TeX mailing list Subject: Re: [pdftex] pdftex produces blank documents on MacOS Message-ID: <20010314092730.A9559@anxur.fi.muni.cz> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from wbrooks@lug.ee.calpoly.edu on Tue, Mar 13, 2001 at 11:51:29AM -0800 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 09:27:30 +0100 > I'm using pdfTeX (Web2C 7.3.1) 3.14159-0.13d on Linux; this version comes > with the regular RedHat Linux 6.2. > > My problem is that any documents I produce with it are completely blank > when viewed with Acrobat Reader 4.0 on the Apple Macintosh. Just to make > sure it wasn't me, I downloaded the source for pdfTeX-FAQ.tex from the > website and compiled it, same thing: views great on Linux and Solaris, but > on the Mac it shows up as 21 blank pages. > > Has anyone else run into this? Any solutions? upgrade pdftex. Thanh _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 14-Mar-2001 11:29:48-GMT,3152;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA24673 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 04:29:47 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 7EB102AD02; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 12:30:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from macadam.mpce.mq.edu.au (macadam.mpce.mq.edu.au [137.111.216.12]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2EBTCm00640 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 12:29:12 +0100 Received: from hera.mpce.mq.edu.au (hera.mpce.mq.edu.au [137.111.219.13]) by macadam.mpce.mq.edu.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA06536; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 22:28:58 +1100 (EST) Received: (from ross@localhost) by hera.mpce.mq.edu.au (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id WAA13778; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 22:28:57 +1100 (EST) From: Ross Moore Message-Id: <200103141128.WAA13778@hera.mpce.mq.edu.au> Subject: Re: [pdftex] pdftex produces blank documents on MacOS In-Reply-To: <20010314092730.A9559@anxur.fi.muni.cz> from Han The Thanh at "Mar 14, 2001 09:27:30 am" To: Han The Thanh Cc: Bill Brooks , PDF-TeX mailing list X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL71 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 22:28:57 +1100 (EST) > > I'm using pdfTeX (Web2C 7.3.1) 3.14159-0.13d on Linux; this version comes > > with the regular RedHat Linux 6.2. > > > > My problem is that any documents I produce with it are completely blank > > when viewed with Acrobat Reader 4.0 on the Apple Macintosh. Just to make > > sure it wasn't me, I downloaded the source for pdfTeX-FAQ.tex from the > > website and compiled it, same thing: views great on Linux and Solaris, but > > on the Mac it shows up as 21 blank pages. > > > > Has anyone else run into this? Any solutions? > > upgrade pdftex. No; this problem has nothing to do with pdfTeX at all. The files were transferred to the Mac in text-mode, rather than binary. This upsets various things. It also happens in reverse; if you transfer a PDF made on a Mac to another system, you *must* use binary mode, else all pages will appear blank in any reader -- on a Mac or other system. Hope this helps, Ross Moore > Thanh > _______________________________________________ > pdftex mailing list > pdftex@tug.org > http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 14-Mar-2001 12:04:48-GMT,2378;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA25368 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 05:04:47 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 1E5E72AE93; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 13:05:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from matups.math.u-psud.fr (mathups.math.u-psud.fr [129.175.52.4]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2EC4em00836 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 13:04:41 +0100 Received: from topodyn.math.u-psud.fr (topodyn.math.u-psud.fr [129.175.50.70]) by matups.math.u-psud.fr (8.11.0/jtpda-5.3.3) with ESMTP id f2EC3EX00368 ; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 13:03:14 +0100 (MET) Received: (from lcs@localhost) by topodyn.math.u-psud.fr (8.9.2/8.9.2) id NAA14193; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 13:03:13 +0100 (MET) From: Laurent Siebenmann Message-Id: <200103141203.NAA14193@topodyn.math.u-psud.fr> To: lcs@topodyn.math.u-psud.fr, pdftex@tug.org, pragma@wxs.nl, skirsch@moebius.inka.de Subject: Re: [pdftex] Problems with LARGE tiffs Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 13:03:13 +0100 (MET) Hans Hagen wrote: > An alternative is to convert > the tiffs to pdf using distiller or gs and then > include the pdf file. Could you detail the Distiller recipe please Hans? Sebastian Kirsch writes: > A generic tifftopdf script using pdflib is > about 20 lines in Perl. Seb! Which species of TIFF have you successfully tested? I presume the 20 lines of Perl make the size of the PDF just a bit bigger than the size of the TIFF?? Is the TIFF nicely centered (say as Distiller does for EPSFs)? Cheers Laurent S. _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 14-Mar-2001 12:59:44-GMT,3589;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA26326 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 05:59:43 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 2B9182AE8C; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 14:00:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.inka.de (quechua.inka.de [212.227.14.2]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2ECxZm01131 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 13:59:35 +0100 Received: from moebius.inka.de by mail.inka.de with uucp (rmailwrap 0.4) id 14dArr-0004nE-00; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 13:59:07 +0100 Received: (from skirsch@localhost) by moebius.inka.de (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) id NAA13699; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 13:41:33 +0100 From: Sebastian Marius Kirsch To: Laurent Siebenmann Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] Problems with LARGE tiffs Message-ID: <20010314134133.A13306@moebius.inka.de> References: <200103141203.NAA14193@topodyn.math.u-psud.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200103141203.NAA14193@topodyn.math.u-psud.fr>; from Laurent.Siebenmann@math.u-psud.fr on Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 01:03:13PM +0100 X-MSMail-Priority: Low X-Priority: 5 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 13:41:33 +0100 On Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 01:03:13PM +0100, Laurent Siebenmann wrote: > Seb! Which species of TIFF have you successfully > tested? I'm sorry, I haven't tested TIFF in particular; I usually use either PNG or JPEG, not being in the prepress business. But pdflib is linked against TIFFlib (http://www.libtiff.org/), so it should be able to cope with anything the TIFFlib can handle as well. I believe that pdfTeX also uses TIFFlib? > I presume the 20 lines of Perl make the size of the PDF just a bit > bigger than the size of the TIFF?? Depends on the compression of both the original TIFF file and the PDF file, I'd say. TIFF images are compressed in the PDF file the same way all other streams are. > Is the TIFF nicely centered (say as Distiller does for EPSFs)? I usually choose a page size that is the size of the TIFF image. I don't know offhand whether pdflib allows you to set the different Boxes (MediaBox, TrimBox, CropBox etc. etc. pp.), I think not. If you need it, I suggest you write to Thomas Merz about it; I'm sure he will be grateful for your input, and it should be a trivial change. BTW: Ever tried using Acrobat Reader on a monochrome display? Blech! All the fonts are completely messed up! xpdf doesn't work either on a monochrome display, only GhostScript manages to produce something readable. -- Yours, Sebastian Kirsch There's one thing computing teaches you, and that's that there's no point to remembering everything. Being able to find things is what's important. _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 14-Mar-2001 13:28:45-GMT,3351;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA26867 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 06:28:44 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id DDBE02AE8E; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 14:29:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp7.xs4all.nl (smtp7.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.133]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2EDSvm01348 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 14:28:57 +0100 Received: from server-1.pragma-ade.nl (s340-isdn2928.dial.xs4all.nl [194.109.191.112]) by smtp7.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA07395; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 14:28:34 +0100 (CET) Received: from laptop-1 (laptop-1.pragma-ade.nl [200.1.1.25]) by server-1.pragma-ade.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA27986; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 14:22:35 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20010314140525.0096e2d0@server-1> X-Sender: hagen@server-1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) To: Laurent Siebenmann From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: [pdftex] Problems with LARGE tiffs Cc: lcs@topodyn.math.u-psud.fr, pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: <200103141203.NAA14193@topodyn.math.u-psud.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 14:05:25 +0100 At 01:03 PM 3/14/01 +0100, Laurent Siebenmann wrote: > > >Hans Hagen wrote: > >> An alternative is to convert >> the tiffs to pdf using distiller or gs and then >> include the pdf file. > >Could you detail the Distiller recipe please Hans? Well, i would make an eps of the tiff and feed it into distiller. Or faster: use acrobat (formerly known as exchange) which can do the conversion directly. >Sebastian Kirsch writes: > > > A generic tifftopdf script using pdflib is > > about 20 lines in Perl. > >Seb! Which species of TIFF have you successfully >tested? I presume the 20 lines of Perl make >the size of the PDF just a bit bigger than the >size of the TIFF?? Is the TIFF nicely centered >(say as Distiller does for EPSFs)? pdf supports some of the tiff (png,jpg) compression schemes, not (the many many alternativec of) tiff itself, so some kind of mapping has to take place. this is why inclusion takes so long compared to pdf inclusion. Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma@wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 14-Mar-2001 15:17:44-GMT,2626;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA29103 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 08:17:43 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 971562AEEA; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 16:18:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2EFHCm02036 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 16:17:13 +0100 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA01167; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 16:16:50 +0100 (MET) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA28525; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 16:16:49 +0100 (MET) From: Han The Thanh To: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= Cc: pdfTeX Subject: Re: [pdftex] Problems with LARGE tiffs Message-ID: <20010314161649.A27322@anxur.fi.muni.cz> References: <20010313154229.S22252@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <20010313162120.A25882@anxur.fi.muni.cz> <20010314142009.C22252@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20010314142009.C22252@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de>; from ms@artcom-gmbh.de on Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 02:20:09PM +0100 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 16:16:49 +0100 > > > Can this (IMHO bug) be fixed? > > > > my decision to support tiff was rather a disaster. > > In writetif.c raster is allocated, but never freed. This fixes > it: > > *** writetif.c 2001/03/14 12:45:46 1.1 > --- writetif.c 2001/03/14 12:46:30 > *************** > *** 137,141 **** > --- 137,142 ---- > } > } > pdfendstream(); > + _TIFFfree (raster); > } > #endif thanks for the fix, it will be included in the next release. Regards, Thanh _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 15-Mar-2001 11:58:44-GMT,2621;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA28852 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 04:58:43 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 92EAA2AD02; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 12:59:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from aleph.net.uniovi.es (aleph.net.uniovi.es [156.35.11.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2FBw4m06991 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 12:58:04 +0100 Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON.aleph.net.uniovi.es by aleph.net.uniovi.es (PMDF V6.0-24 #45227) id <01K185YRW2EO009EOI@aleph.net.uniovi.es> for pdftex@tug.org; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 12:57:41 +0100 (MET) Received: from bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es (bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es [156.35.56.38]) by aleph.net.uniovi.es (PMDF V6.0-24 #45227) with ESMTP id <01K185YR9IIU009CVI@aleph.net.uniovi.es> for pdftex@tug.org; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 12:57:35 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost (carmenes@localhost) by bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f2FBwIL02831 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 12:58:19 +0100 From: Ricardo Sanchez Carmenes To: pdftex@tug.org Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: [pdftex] Adding security pw to pdftex Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 12:58:18 +0100 (CET) How difficult would be to add security password to pdf files generated by pdftex ? This feature would be very useful. There is a package (htmldoc from Easy software), distributed in source under the GPL, that transforms html documents directly to pdf, and that has this ability implemented. This means that it shouldn't be too difficult to implement in pdftex as well without infringing copyrights (unless htmldoc is already doing so). Regards, Ricardo. _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 15-Mar-2001 13:21:44-GMT,2165;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA00346 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 06:21:43 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 76E172AE8D; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 14:22:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from uscmail.usc.es (uscmail.usc.es [193.144.75.8]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2FDLTm07395 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 14:21:30 +0100 Received: from fmares.usc.es (fmares.usc.es [193.144.64.164]) by uscmail.usc.es (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA13418 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 14:21:05 +0100 (MET) Received: from fmmeteo.usc.es (fmgea.usc.es [193.144.64.239]) by fmares.usc.es (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA03643 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 14:21:02 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <3AB0C1BE.C73605B1@fmmeteo.usc.es> From: Irene =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sendi=F1a?= Nadal Organization: GFNL: http://fmmeteo.usc.es/ X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.7 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [pdftex] How to produce individual pdf chapters... Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 14:21:02 +0100 Hi, Is it possible from a main file (with the several \include{chapter1}...) to obtain separate chapters in individual pdf files when you compile with pdflatex?. Irene _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 15-Mar-2001 13:34:46-GMT,3843;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA00608 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 06:34:45 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id F1E9A2AE93; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 14:35:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de (waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.4.42]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2FDYBm07507 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 14:34:11 +0100 Received: from peano.cs.uni-dortmund.de (peano.cs.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.28.154]) by waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de with ESMTP id OAA28708; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 14:33:48 +0100 (MET) Received: from peano.cs.uni-dortmund.de (tinne@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by peano.cs.uni-dortmund.de (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id OAA29768; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 14:33:48 +0100 Message-Id: <200103151333.OAA29768@peano.cs.uni-dortmund.de> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 (debian) To: Ricardo Sanchez Carmenes Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] Adding security pw to pdftex In-Reply-To: Message from Ricardo Sanchez Carmenes of "Thu, 15 Mar 2001 12:58:18 +0100." References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: Karsten Tinnefeld Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 14:33:47 +0100 > How difficult would be to add security password to pdf files > generated by pdftex ? This feature would be very useful. To create encrypted pdf, you need to license the rc4 algorithm from RSA Inc. You can produce an identical file by using publically available software that implements the algorithm, but this is by definition not encrypted pdf, as RSA refuses to accept that the public algorithm does the same as rc4 and adobe has specified it using their property. Check http://www.ozemail.com.au/~geoffk/pdfencrypt/ http://www.ncat.edu/~grogans/algorithm_history_and_descriptio.htm http://partners.adobe.com/asn/developer/technotes/acrobatpdf.html for more information. > There is a package (htmldoc from Easy software), distributed > in source under the GPL, that transforms html documents directly > to pdf, and that has this ability implemented. This means that > it shouldn't be too difficult to implement in pdftex as well > without infringing copyrights (unless htmldoc is already doing so). Why didn't you just point us to http://www.easysw.com/htmldoc/ ? htmldoc-1.8.12/htmldoc/rc4.c has * "$Id: rc4.c,v 1.3 2000/06/05 17:55:45 mike Exp $" * * RC4 functions for HTMLDOC. * * Original code by Tim Martin * Copyright 1999 by Carnegie Mellon University, All Rights Reserved Karsten -- Karsten Tinnefeld tinnefeld@ls2.cs.uni-dortmund.de Fachbereich Informatik, Lehrstuhl 2 T +49 231 755-4737 Universität Dortmund, D-44221 Dortmund, Deutschland F +49 231 755-2047 _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 15-Mar-2001 14:45:43-GMT,3933;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA02151 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 07:45:42 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 665BD2AE8D; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 15:46:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from aleph.net.uniovi.es (aleph.net.uniovi.es [156.35.11.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2FEjOm08038 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 15:45:24 +0100 Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON.aleph.net.uniovi.es by aleph.net.uniovi.es (PMDF V6.0-24 #45227) id <01K18BSZD9XS008DQJ@aleph.net.uniovi.es> for pdftex@tug.org; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 15:44:45 +0100 (MET) Received: from bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es (bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es [156.35.56.38]) by aleph.net.uniovi.es (PMDF V6.0-24 #45227) with ESMTP id <01K18BSXRCOO009IF3@aleph.net.uniovi.es>; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 15:44:42 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost (carmenes@localhost) by bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f2FEjPY03713; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 15:45:25 +0100 From: Ricardo Sanchez Carmenes Subject: Re: [pdftex] Adding security pw to pdftex In-reply-to: <200103151333.OAA29768@peano.cs.uni-dortmund.de> To: Karsten Tinnefeld Cc: pdftex@tug.org Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 15:45:25 +0100 (CET) On Thu, 15 Mar 2001, Karsten Tinnefeld wrote: > > How difficult would be to add security password to pdf files > > generated by pdftex ? This feature would be very useful. > > To create encrypted pdf, you need to license the rc4 algorithm from RSA > Inc. You can produce an identical file by using publically available > software that implements the algorithm, but this is by definition not > encrypted pdf, as RSA refuses to accept that the public algorithm does > the same as rc4 and adobe has specified it using their property. If I am not missing anything, as far as the result is the same, and copyrights are no broken, why not using the public software for this purpose ? The interest here would be to have compatible encription implemented, not to reach official certification from the RSA, isn't it? > Check > http://www.ozemail.com.au/~geoffk/pdfencrypt/ > http://www.ncat.edu/~grogans/algorithm_history_and_descriptio.htm > http://partners.adobe.com/asn/developer/technotes/acrobatpdf.html > for more information. Thanks, I'll have a look. I haven't read anything about encription issues for the last 3--4 years, so I am certainly outdated. > > There is a package (htmldoc from Easy software), distributed > > in source under the GPL, that transforms html documents directly > > to pdf, and that has this ability implemented. This means that > > it shouldn't be too difficult to implement in pdftex as well > > without infringing copyrights (unless htmldoc is already doing so). > > Why didn't you just point us to http://www.easysw.com/htmldoc/ ? Because I did not have the exact url with me. But it was no so difficult to find ... or was it ? Regards, Ricardo. _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 15-Mar-2001 15:36:43-GMT,2574;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA03451 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 08:36:42 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id A0CB62AE8D; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 16:37:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (quim-234.fe.up.pt [193.136.33.212]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2FFaZm08318 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 16:36:37 +0100 Received: from villate by localhost with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 14dZns-0000dC-00; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 15:36:40 +0000 From: "Jaime E . Villate" To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Irene_Sendi=F1a_Nadal?= Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] How to produce individual pdf chapters... Message-ID: <20010315153639.B2377@fe.up.pt> References: <3AB0C1BE.C73605B1@fmmeteo.usc.es> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3AB0C1BE.C73605B1@fmmeteo.usc.es>; from irene@fmmeteo.usc.es on Thu, Mar 15, 2001 at 02:21:02PM +0100 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 15:36:39 +0000 On Thu, Mar 15, 2001 at 02:21:02PM +0100, Irene Sendiña Nadal wrote: > Is it possible from a main file (with the several > \include{chapter1}...) > to obtain separate chapters in individual pdf files when you compile > with pdflatex?. Sure, that's a LaTeX, rather than pdflatex issue. I do it this way: typein[\chaps]{Which sections (or all)?} \ifthenelse{\equal{\chaps}{all}}{}{\includeonly{\chaps}} \begin{document} \include{chap1} \include{chap2} \include{chap3} ... when I process the file with pdflatex, I answer to the prompt "\chaps=" with the list of chapters that I want to process and pdftex produces a pdf file of those chapters. I hope this helps. Jaime Villate _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 15-Mar-2001 15:42:45-GMT,3288;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA03573 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 08:42:44 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id A08E52AEEA; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 16:43:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from tibre.ujf-grenoble.fr (tibre.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.238.31]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2FFghm08404 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 16:42:43 +0100 Received: from mozart.ujf-grenoble.Fr (mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.241.5]) by tibre.ujf-grenoble.fr (Pro-8.9.3/8.9.3/Configured by AD & JE 25/10/1999) with ESMTP id QAA17054; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 16:41:48 +0100 (MET) Received: (from bouche@localhost) by mozart.ujf-grenoble.Fr (8.9.3/8.8.5) id QAA21210; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 16:41:48 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <200103151541.QAA21210@mozart.ujf-grenoble.Fr> From: Thierry Bouche To: "Jaime E . Villate" Cc: Irene =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Sendi=F1a?= Nadal , pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] How to produce individual pdf chapters... In-Reply-To: <20010315153639.B2377@fe.up.pt> References: <3AB0C1BE.C73605B1@fmmeteo.usc.es> <20010315153639.B2377@fe.up.pt> X-Mailer: VM 6.22 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 16:41:48 +0100 (MET) Concernant « Re: [pdftex] How to produce individual pdf chapters... », Jaime E . Villate écrit : « » On Thu, Mar 15, 2001 at 02:21:02PM +0100, Irene Sendiña Nadal wrote: » > Is it possible from a main file (with the several » > \include{chapter1}...) » > to obtain separate chapters in individual pdf files when you compile » > with pdflatex?. » Sure, that's a LaTeX, rather than pdflatex issue. I do it this way: » » typein[\chaps]{Which sections (or all)?} » \ifthenelse{\equal{\chaps}{all}}{}{\includeonly{\chaps}} » » \begin{document} » \include{chap1} » \include{chap2} » \include{chap3} the problem is that hyperlinks won't work if you do this that way. You can shipout only the relevant pages, but hyperlinks will point to non existing anchors for the other chapters. What would be required would be a different process for each chapter, maintaining external links. I'm afraid that the solution would be to make separate documents for each chapter, and using xr... Thierry Bouche __ « Ils vivent pour vivre, et nous, hélas ! nous vivons pour savoir. » Charles Baudelaire, Paris. _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 15-Mar-2001 18:16:43-GMT,3404;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA07972 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 11:16:42 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 341A42AE8B; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 19:17:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from uscmail.usc.es (uscmail.usc.es [193.144.75.8]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2FIGwm09265 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 19:16:58 +0100 Received: from fmares.usc.es (fmares.usc.es [193.144.64.164]) by uscmail.usc.es (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA26022; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 19:16:35 +0100 (MET) Received: from fmmeteo.usc.es (fmgea.usc.es [193.144.64.239]) by fmares.usc.es (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA12305; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 19:16:32 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <3AB10700.EB08891@fmmeteo.usc.es> From: Irene =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sendi=F1a?= Nadal Organization: GFNL: http://fmmeteo.usc.es/ X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.7 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Jaime E . Villate" Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] How to produce individual pdf chapters... References: <3AB0C1BE.C73605B1@fmmeteo.usc.es> <20010315153639.B2377@fe.up.pt> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 19:16:32 +0100 "Jaime E . Villate" wrote: > On Thu, Mar 15, 2001 at 02:21:02PM +0100, Irene Sendiña Nadal wrote: > > Is it possible from a main file (with the several > > \include{chapter1}...) > > to obtain separate chapters in individual pdf files when you compile > > with pdflatex?. > Sure, that's a LaTeX, rather than pdflatex issue. I do it this way: > > typein[\chaps]{Which sections (or all)?} > \ifthenelse{\equal{\chaps}{all}}{}{\includeonly{\chaps}} > > \begin{document} > \include{chap1} > \include{chap2} > \include{chap3} > ... > > when I process the file with pdflatex, I answer to the prompt "\chaps=" with > the list of chapters that I want to process and pdftex produces a pdf file of > those chapters. > I hope this helps. > > Jaime Villate Ok, I try to do what you say: \typein[\chaps]{all} \ifthenelse{\equal{\chaps}{all}}{}{\includeonly{\chaps}} \begin{document} \include{cap1} \include{cap2} \end{document} with two files named cap1.tex and cap2.tex. When I process the main.tex appears the prompt \chap= and.... what it is supposed I should type. I tried with the names cap1,cap2, etc.and then it comes out a message "!undefined control sequence" about the input line \ifthenelse{\equal{\chaps}{all}}{}{\includeonly{\chaps}}. Do you know what happens?. irene _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 15-Mar-2001 18:25:46-GMT,3174;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA08203 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 11:25:45 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id A37402AE8F; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 19:26:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de (zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.53]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2FIP4m09361 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 19:25:04 +0100 Received: from zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de.kammer.uni-hannover.de (reinhard@zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.54]) by zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA08122; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 19:23:28 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de: Host reinhard@zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.54] claimed to be zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de.kammer.uni-hannover.de From: Reinhard Kotucha MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Message-ID: <15025.2277.52360.902903@zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de> To: Irene Sendiña Nadal Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] How to produce individual pdf chapters... In-Reply-To: <3AB10700.EB08891@fmmeteo.usc.es> References: <3AB0C1BE.C73605B1@fmmeteo.usc.es> <20010315153639.B2377@fe.up.pt> <3AB10700.EB08891@fmmeteo.usc.es> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under Emacs 20.7.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.daimi.au.dk id f2FIP4m09361 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 19:24:37 +0100 >>>>> "Irene" == Irene Sendiña Nadal writes: > etc.and then it comes out a message "!undefined control > sequence" about the input line > \ifthenelse{\equal{\chaps}{all}}{}{\includeonly{\chaps}}. Do you > know what happens?. Did you load the ifthen package? \ifthenelse is not built into the LaTeX kernel. \usepackage{ifthen} \ifthenelse{\equal{\cha... Regards, Reinhard -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Reinhard Kotucha Phone: +49-511-751355 Berggartenstr. 9 D-30419 Hannover mailto:reinhard@kammer.uni-hannover.de ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Microsoft isn't the answer. Microsoft is the question, and the answer is NO. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 15-Mar-2001 18:34:46-GMT,3125;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA08477 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 11:34:45 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 2A85E2AD02; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 19:35:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from salmon.maths.tcd.ie (salmon.maths.tcd.ie [134.226.81.11]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f2FIYHm09441 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 19:34:17 +0100 Received: from boole.maths.tcd.ie by salmon.maths.tcd.ie with SMTP id ; 15 Mar 2001 18:33:55 +0000 (GMT) From: Timothy Murphy To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] How to produce individual pdf chapters... Message-ID: <20010315183355.A92118@boole.maths.tcd.ie> References: <3AB0C1BE.C73605B1@fmmeteo.usc.es> <20010315153639.B2377@fe.up.pt> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010315153639.B2377@fe.up.pt>; from villate@fe.up.pt on Thu, Mar 15, 2001 at 03:36:39PM +0000 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 18:33:55 +0000 On Thu, Mar 15, 2001 at 03:36:39PM +0000, Jaime E . Villate wrote: > > Is it possible from a main file (with the several > > \include{chapter1}...) > > to obtain separate chapters in individual pdf files when you compile > > with pdflatex?. > Sure, that's a LaTeX, rather than pdflatex issue. I do it this way: > > typein[\chaps]{Which sections (or all)?} > \ifthenelse{\equal{\chaps}{all}}{}{\includeonly{\chaps}} > > \begin{document} > \include{chap1} > \include{chap2} > \include{chap3} > ... > > when I process the file with pdflatex, I answer to the prompt "\chaps=" with (1) There is a package "askinclude" which does what you suggest, and which I find saves a lot of time. (2) I think you misunderstood the question. As I understood it, the questioner was asking for a method of producing each of the chapters in a separate PDF file. Certainly one could do that by the process above, but you would have to repeat it n times, where n = no of chapters. I'd quite like what the questioner asks, but with the addition of a table of contents (in PDF or HTML?) which points to the different chapters. > http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: tim@maths.tcd.ie tel: 086-233 6090 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 16-Mar-2001 0:40:43-GMT,2620;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA18444 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 17:40:42 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id AEBF52AE8B; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 01:41:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [194.221.183.20]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f2G0eMm10936 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 01:40:22 +0100 Received: (qmail 25121 invoked by uid 0); 16 Mar 2001 00:39:58 -0000 Received: from brln-3e36e621.pool.mediaways.net (HELO gmx.de) (62.54.230.33) by mail.gmx.net (mp003-rz3) with SMTP; 16 Mar 2001 00:39:58 -0000 Message-ID: <3AB15EDC.EAFA2D84@gmx.de> From: Steffen Evers X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.18pre21 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: LyX Users , Tex2pdf Announce List , Pdftex List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [pdftex] tex2pdf 2.0 released Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 01:31:24 +0100 tex2pdf 2.0 finished: I have cleaned up the code a lot and made it work with LyX again. You can get it from http://tex2pdf.berlios.de/ It works as a converter for PDF inside LyX now. You don't need to set any flags. Just use 'tex2pdf $$i' in Edit->Preferences->Converters->Converters: LaTeX->PDF(pdflatex). Feedback is wanted, of cause: mailto:tex2pdf-devel@lists.berlios.de . I think this is it for a while... except someone finds something really bad or wants to work on it himself. Anyone is welcome to send me patches and suggestions. I will collect them and keep it in mind for the next release. Most welcome are patches against the CVS Repository on the tex2pdf's developer site. If someone likes to port it to Perl: Go ahead! Bye, Steffen _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 16-Mar-2001 12:49:11-GMT,2301;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA02509 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 05:49:06 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 9E9A42AD02; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 13:49:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp-relay.noc.dsvr.net (smtp-relay.noc.dsvr.net [212.69.192.4]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2GCmXm14038 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 13:48:35 +0100 Received: from [212.69.198.36] (helo=svr2.design-web.co.uk) by smtp-relay.noc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14dteD-00073e-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 12:48:01 +0000 Received: from daltons.net (host213-122-226-33.btinternet.com [213.122.226.33]) by svr2.design-web.co.uk (8.11.2/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2GClh630977 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 12:47:47 GMT Message-ID: <3AB20A0A.844B0BEA@daltons.net> From: Barney Dalton X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.14 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] How to produce individual pdf chapters... References: <3AB0C1BE.C73605B1@fmmeteo.usc.es> <20010315153639.B2377@fe.up.pt> <20010315183355.A92118@boole.maths.tcd.ie> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 12:41:46 +0000 > I'd quite like what the questioner asks, > but with the addition of a table of contents > (in PDF or HTML?) > which points to the different chapters. Me Too! What would be involved to get this to work? barney _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 16-Mar-2001 12:59:15-GMT,2626;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA02670 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 05:59:11 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 502662AE90; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 13:59:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from zambeze.ujf-grenoble.fr (zambeze.ujf-grenoble.fr [152.77.2.3]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2GCwRm14152 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 13:58:28 +0100 Received: from mozart.ujf-grenoble.Fr (mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.241.5]) by zambeze.ujf-grenoble.fr (Pro-8.9.3/8.9.3/Configured by AD & JE 25/10/1999) with ESMTP id NAA13810; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 13:57:52 +0100 (MET) Received: (from bouche@localhost) by mozart.ujf-grenoble.Fr (8.9.3/8.8.5) id NAA13323; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 13:57:51 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <200103161257.NAA13323@mozart.ujf-grenoble.Fr> From: Thierry Bouche To: Barney Dalton Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] How to produce individual pdf chapters... In-Reply-To: <3AB20A0A.844B0BEA@daltons.net> References: <3AB0C1BE.C73605B1@fmmeteo.usc.es> <20010315153639.B2377@fe.up.pt> <20010315183355.A92118@boole.maths.tcd.ie> <3AB20A0A.844B0BEA@daltons.net> X-Mailer: VM 6.22 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 13:57:51 +0100 (MET) » > I'd quite like what the questioner asks, » > but with the addition of a table of contents » > (in PDF or HTML?) » > which points to the different chapters. » » Me Too! What would be involved to get this to work? this can't be done with one pdflatex run. You maybe could do it with a makefile, the pb being how to generate a toc from multiple latex files, which is sureley doable with a write or even from .aux. Thierry Bouche _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 16-Mar-2001 13:12:30-GMT,2207;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA02938 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 06:12:21 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 7AF4D2AEED; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 14:12:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from ecnwall.ecn.nl (ecnwall.ecn.nl [130.112.1.86]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2GDB7m14273 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 14:11:08 +0100 Received: from ecntex.ecn.nl (ecntex.ecn.nl [130.112.1.26]) by ecnwall.ecn.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA5821BB for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 14:10:38 +0100 (MET) Received: by ecntex.ecn.nl with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 14:10:39 +0100 Message-ID: <92D6AAE888CED411A16A00508BB0B827A23FCA@ecntex.ecn.nl> From: "Dok, D. van" To: "PDFTeX Mailing List (E-mail)" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Subject: [pdftex] linearized PDF Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 14:10:37 +0100 Hi, AFAIK, pdftex doesn't currently produce linearized PDF. This feature would make reading a PDF file in a browser go more smoothly: skipping to page 100 causes the acrobat reader plugin to read just page 100. Is this feature going to be implemented in a later version of pdfTeX? Or not at all? Are there perhaps other ways to convert PDF to linearized PDF (without acrobat)? Dennis van Dok _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 16-Mar-2001 13:32:55-GMT,2562;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA03323 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 06:32:52 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id F1C742AE8F; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 14:33:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from camus.cybercable.fr (camus.cybercable.fr [212.198.0.200]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f2GDWNm14411 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 14:32:24 +0100 Received: (qmail 26755599 invoked from network); 16 Mar 2001 13:31:53 -0000 Received: from r64m74.cybercable.tm.fr (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([195.132.64.74]) (envelope-sender ) by camus.cybercable.fr (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 16 Mar 2001 13:31:53 -0000 Received: (from chlick@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.10.0/8.10.0) id f2GDVvA01974; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 14:31:57 +0100 To: "Dok, D. van" Cc: "PDFTeX Mailing List (E-mail)" Subject: Re: [pdftex] linearized PDF References: <92D6AAE888CED411A16A00508BB0B827A23FCA@ecntex.ecn.nl> From: Damien WYART Organization: Centre d'Etude et De Recherche en Informatique du CNAM In-Reply-To: <92D6AAE888CED411A16A00508BB0B827A23FCA@ecntex.ecn.nl> ("Dok, D. van"'s message of "Fri, 16 Mar 2001 14:10:37 +0100") Message-ID: Lines: 10 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090001 (Oort Gnus v0.01) Emacs/21.0.99 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: 16 Mar 2001 14:31:57 +0100 * "Dok, D. van" [010316 14:10]: > Are there perhaps other ways to convert PDF to linearized PDF (without > acrobat)? Ghostscript can do that, with a little utility called pdfopt. See for more info on gs. -- Damien WYART / dwyart@noos.fr _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 16-Mar-2001 13:54:44-GMT,2856;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA03859 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 06:54:42 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 9DC5F2AE92; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 14:55:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from dsmail.hmi.de (dsmail.hmi.de [134.30.15.24]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2GDsDm14580 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 14:54:13 +0100 Received: from hmi.de (pgu@pieck1.hmi.de [134.30.11.89]) by dsmail.hmi.de (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f2GDroj10438; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 14:53:50 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <3AB21AEC.D41DA04C@hmi.de> From: Tim Brunne X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.18pre21 i686) X-Accept-Language: de, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] How to produce individual pdf chapters... References: <3AB0C1BE.C73605B1@fmmeteo.usc.es> <20010315153639.B2377@fe.up.pt> <20010315183355.A92118@boole.maths.tcd.ie> <3AB20A0A.844B0BEA@daltons.net> <200103161257.NAA13323@mozart.ujf-grenoble.Fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 14:53:48 +0100 Thierry Bouche wrote: > > » > I'd quite like what the questioner asks, > » > but with the addition of a table of contents > » > (in PDF or HTML?) > » > which points to the different chapters. > » > » Me Too! What would be involved to get this to work? > > this can't be done with one pdflatex run. You maybe could do it with a > makefile, the pb being how to generate a toc from multiple latex > files, which is sureley doable with a write or even from .aux. I am interested in a solution to this problem too. I am required to submit my thesis chapter-wise, with a (hyper-) table of contents for the whole work. Maybe also links between different chapters should work (as external links), as they are working, as if the whole thesis was one file. --- The university library suggests to do this manually with the destiller from Adobe. Boring. So: Is there a solution of this problem existing somewhere already? Regards, Tim Brunne _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 16-Mar-2001 22:51:43-GMT,2719;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA18087 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 15:51:42 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id B23262AE8B; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 23:52:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk (sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk [129.215.72.230]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2GMpWm16767 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 23:51:32 +0100 Received: from maxwell (maxwell.epcc.ed.ac.uk [129.215.62.25]) by sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA10300; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 22:51:08 GMT From: "Tony Kennedy" To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Subject: [pdftex] Problem with pdftex and metafont generated fonts Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 22:50:22 -0000 I have created a font using Metafont which works perfectly when used with TeX, but using pdftex I get the wrong characters selected from the font. The problem manifests itself even when producing a table of characters from the font using testfont.tex. I could provide lots more information, but I at the moment I have no idea what is relevant to the problem. I would welcome any suggestions. The version of pdftex I am using is: This is pdfTeX, Version 3.14159-14d (MiKTeX 1.20e) (preloaded format=plain 2000.8.22) 15 MAR 2001 22:02 -Tony- --- Anthony D Kennedy Maxwell Institute for High Performance Computing Applications, JCMB 4404, The University of Edinburgh, Mayfield Road, Edinburgh, EH9 3JZ, Scotland +44 131 650 5272 (office) +44 131 447 0086 (home) mailto:adk@ph.ed.ac.uk +44 788 182 5458 (mobile) +44 131 650 6555 (FAX) http://www.ph.ed.ac.uk/~adk _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 17-Mar-2001 0:12:43-GMT,2335;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA20270 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 17:12:42 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 810472AE90; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 01:13:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from lug.calpoly.edu (lug.ee.calpoly.edu [129.65.26.2]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2H0Crm17143 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 01:12:53 +0100 Received: from localhost (wbrooks@localhost) by lug.calpoly.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA15612 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 16:12:29 -0800 From: Bill Brooks To: Pdftex List Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [pdftex] Setting the font the LaTeX 1 way (or, how do I use bibtex.sty?) Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 16:12:29 -0800 (PST) Hi, I'm using pdftex to generate .pdf files from my LaTeX sources. Since I started using LaTeX after the release of LaTeX 2/e, I never had a way of finding out how to set the font in a LaTeX document the "old" way. Unfortunately, I want to generate a list of all the documents in my BibTeX .bib file, and the style that allows me to do that, biblist.sty, is a LaTeX 2.09 style, so I can't issue a \usepackage{times} command so that the generated .pdf file is readable both in Acrobat and when printed. Does anyone have a way out of this? Does anyone know the 2.09 equivalent of \usepackage{times}? Thanks in advance for any help you can offer. Bill _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 17-Mar-2001 19:54:43-GMT,2864;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA12005 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 12:54:42 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 4C1B32AD02; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 20:55:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp-2.nordnet.fr (smtp-2.nordnet.fr [194.206.126.252]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2HJshm21050 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 20:54:43 +0100 Received: from default (gate11-205.nordnet.fr [195.146.225.205]) by smtp-2.nordnet.fr (8.9.3/8.9.0) with ESMTP id UAA16936; Sat, 17 Mar 2001 20:54:10 +0100 Message-Id: <200103171954.UAA16936@smtp-2.nordnet.fr> Reply-To: From: "Christophe Declercq" To: "Bill Brooks" , "Pdftex List" Subject: Re: [pdftex] Setting the font the LaTeX 1 way (or, how do I use bibtex.sty?) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 21:00:40 +0100 Hi, > De : Bill Brooks > A : Pdftex List > Objet : [pdftex] Setting the font the LaTeX 1 way (or, how do I use bibtex.sty?) > Date : samedi 17 mars 2001 01:12 > > Hi, > > I'm using pdftex to generate .pdf files from my LaTeX sources. Since I > started using LaTeX after the release of LaTeX 2/e, I never had a way of > finding out how to set the font in a LaTeX document the "old" way. > Unfortunately, I want to generate a list of all the documents in my BibTeX > .bib file, and the style that allows me to do that, biblist.sty, is a > LaTeX 2.09 style, so I can't issue a \usepackage{times} command so that > the generated .pdf file is readable both in Acrobat and when printed. > > Does anyone have a way out of this? Does anyone know the 2.09 equivalent > of \usepackage{times}? Thanks in advance for any help you can offer. Try the 'listbib' package: it is a LaTeX2e package and it is based on the old 'biblist.sty'. Regards. Christophe _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 18-Mar-2001 9:58:44-GMT,2770;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA26319 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 02:03:42 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 1C5412AD02; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 10:04:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from lorica.ucc.usyd.edu.au (lorica.ucc.usyd.edu.au [129.78.64.15]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2I93Cm28736 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 10:03:12 +0100 Received: from mail.usyd.edu.au (p2488.net10.usyd.edu.au [10.0.9.184]) by lorica.ucc.usyd.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA28714 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 20:02:35 +1100 (EST) Message-ID: <3AB47B1C.2603E458@mail.usyd.edu.au> From: Robert Howlett X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdfTeX mailing list Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [pdftex] pdf file not displaying properly in browser Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 20:08:45 +1100 Hi, I am puzzled by a minor problem that I am having now that I have not had before, at least for several years. The pdf files I create using pdftex (under Win95 or Win98) display OK using acrord32, but when I upload them to the place where my students are supposed to find them and then attempt to view them in my web browser (both IE 5.50 and Netscape 4.76) not all the fonts show up. I'm using only cm fonts. On my win95 machine I'm using pdftex 0.14h and on the win98 machine pdftex 0.14q. It appears to make no difference which of these I use. I guess it must be something to do with the browser plug-in. If I save the files to my disk and then view them outside the browser then everything is OK. Worse still, the behaviour seems to be erratic: sometimes it's OK and sometimes not. Any ideas, anyone? The files I'm referring to in particular are http://www.maths.usyd.edu.au/u/bobh/MATH2902/wk1.pdf and http://www.maths.usyd.edu.au/u/bobh/MATH2902/wk3.pdf Bob Howlett _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 18-Mar-2001 23:11:43-GMT,4560;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA11331 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 16:11:41 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 8D03E2AE8E; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 00:12:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from netweb602 (mailhost3.net-serv.co.uk [193.60.158.9]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f2INBQm31307 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 00:11:26 +0100 Received: from DAVE (62.188.10.94) by netweb602 with MERCUR-SMTP/POP3/IMAP4-Server (v3.30.03 AS-0098310) for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 23:14:55 +0000 Message-ID: <001801c0b000$da6032c0$0701a8c0@brokerforms.co.uk> From: "David Etherington" To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0015_01C0B000.D9878600" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Subject: [pdftex] positioning of images Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 23:12:06 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C0B000.D9878600 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I'm very new pdftex, indeed also to tex, and I could do with some help. I want to position an image (pdf) on a page in an absolute position. In fact I want to position a number of images in absolute positions on = one page. Sort of imposition. How do I do this? I've got it to include the images (pdf's) but they just sort of stack up = on one another. How do I say - move to position x,y and put an image here then to x,y = and another image here. If you have an answer please email me direct cos I don't know where this = stuff gets posted to. Yeah, I'm a novice. Thanks, Dave Etherington. dre@expansion.co.uk ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C0B000.D9878600 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,
 
I'm very new pdftex, indeed also to = tex, and I=20 could do with some help.
 
I want to position an image (pdf) on a = page in an=20 absolute position.
 
In fact I want to position a number of = images in=20 absolute positions on one page.
 
Sort of imposition.
 
How do I do this?
 
I've got it to include the images = (pdf's) but they=20 just sort of stack up on one another.
 
How do I say - move to position x,y and = put an=20 image here then to x,y and another image here.
 
If you have an answer please email me = direct cos I=20 don't know where this stuff gets posted to.
 
Yeah, I'm a novice.
 
 
Thanks,
 
Dave Etherington.
dre@expansion.co.uk
------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C0B000.D9878600-- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 18-Mar-2001 23:30:42-GMT,3580;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA11706 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 16:30:41 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id B43442AE8B; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 00:31:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de (waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.4.42]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2INUQm31420 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 00:30:26 +0100 Received: from peano.cs.uni-dortmund.de (peano.cs.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.28.154]) by waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de with ESMTP id AAA09361; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 00:30:02 +0100 (MET) Received: from peano.cs.uni-dortmund.de (tinne@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by peano.cs.uni-dortmund.de (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id AAA12790; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 00:30:00 +0100 Message-Id: <200103182330.AAA12790@peano.cs.uni-dortmund.de> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 (debian) To: "David Etherington" , dre@expansion.co.uk Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] positioning of images In-Reply-To: Message from "David Etherington" of "Sun, 18 Mar 2001 23:12:06 GMT." <001801c0b000$da6032c0$0701a8c0@brokerforms.co.uk> References: <001801c0b000$da6032c0$0701a8c0@brokerforms.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: Karsten Tinnefeld Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 00:30:00 +0100 > I'm very new pdftex, indeed also to tex, and I could do with some help. > I want to position an image (pdf) on a page in an absolute position. I guess you're using the latex macro package with (pdf)tex. If not, buy a TeXbook and take a holiday. You wish to use the picture environment to place stuff absolutely as part of a running text. For absolute positioning on the background of a page, check e.g. the bophook-package on CTAN:macros/latex/supported/bophook at http://www.tex.ac.uk/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/supported/bophook/ (disclaimer: by me). > If you have an answer please email me direct cos I don't know where this > stuff gets posted to. List-help: List-post: List-subscribe: , List-id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-archive: > Please let this be. Please use one mail address, not two. Karsten -- Karsten Tinnefeld tinnefeld@ls2.cs.uni-dortmund.de Fachbereich Informatik, Lehrstuhl 2 T +49 231 755-4737 Universität Dortmund, D-44221 Dortmund, Deutschland F +49 231 755-2047 _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 19-Mar-2001 0:06:42-GMT,3052;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA12338 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 17:06:41 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id AE8282AE98; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 01:07:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail3.ox.ac.uk [129.67.1.180]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2J065m31607 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 01:06:05 +0100 Received: from heraldgate2.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.50] helo=frontend2.herald.ox.ac.uk ident=exim) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 14enAu-00050J-00; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 00:05:28 +0000 Received: from max80.public.ox.ac.uk ([192.76.27.80] helo=spqr2.oucs.ox.ac.uk ident=rahtz) by frontend2.herald.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 14enAs-00065J-00; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 00:05:26 +0000 X-Mailer: emacs 20.6.1 (via feedmail 8 Q); VM 6.86 under Emacs 20.6.1 From: "Sebastian Rahtz" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15029.17305.405749.922455@spqr2.oucs.ox.ac.uk> To: wbrooks@lug.ee.calpoly.edu Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] Setting the font the LaTeX 1 way (or, how do I use bibtex.sty?) In-Reply-To: References: Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 23:24:09 +0000 Bill Brooks writes: > started using LaTeX after the release of LaTeX 2/e, I never had a way of > finding out how to set the font in a LaTeX document the "old" way. think yourself lucky > Unfortunately, I want to generate a list of all the documents in my BibTeX > .bib file, and the style that allows me to do that, biblist.sty, is a > LaTeX 2.09 style, so I can't issue a \usepackage{times} command so that > the generated .pdf file is readable both in Acrobat and when > printed. have you tried biblist with current LaTeX and it fails? I just assumed that it works. if not, its almost certainly trivial to fix, and then everyone would be happy. mind you, I suspect there is something better these days anyway.... > Does anyone know the 2.09 equivalent > of \usepackage{times}? yes, intimately. you dont want me to tell you sebastian _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 19-Mar-2001 8:57:53-GMT,3240;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA22561 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 01:57:49 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id EED582AE92; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 09:58:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.bremen.pop.de (mars.hamburg.pop.de [195.222.210.104]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2J8vfm01249 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 09:57:42 +0100 Received: from uucp by mail.bremen.pop.de with local-rmail (Exim 2.02 #2) id 14evZV-0005pg-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 10:03:25 +0100 Received: (from uartcom@localhost) by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id JAA22135 for tug.org!pdftex; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 09:55:05 +0100 (MET) >Received: by artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de (Smail3.2 #1) id m14evRM-004wwRC; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 09:55:00 +0100 (MET) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] positioning of images Message-ID: <20010319095500.X22252@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mail-Followup-To: pdftex@tug.org References: <001801c0b000$da6032c0$0701a8c0@brokerforms.co.uk> <200103182330.AAA12790@peano.cs.uni-dortmund.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200103182330.AAA12790@peano.cs.uni-dortmund.de>; from tinne@ls2.cs.uni-dortmund.de on Mon, Mar 19, 2001 at 12:30:00AM +0100 Organization: ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Strasse 8, D-28359 Bremen X-Disclaimer: The views expressed are my own and not necessarily that of my employers. Received: from artcom8 by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 09:55 MET Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 09:55:00 +0100 On 2001-03-19 00:30:00 +0100, Karsten Tinnefeld wrote: > environment to place stuff absolutely as part of a running text. For > absolute positioning on the background of a page, check e.g. the > bophook-package on CTAN:macros/latex/supported/bophook at > http://www.tex.ac.uk/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/supported/bophook/ > (disclaimer: by me). Or the eso-pic package on CTAN:macros/latex/supported/ms/contrib/ http://ftp.dante.de/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/supported/ms/contrib/ (disclaimer: uses a package by me). If you're new to TeX you might want to take a look at ConTeXt (http://www.pragma-ade.com/support.htm); it has some nice features regarding pdfTeX. Best regards Martin -- http://www.tm.oneiros.de/calendar/2001/ _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 19-Mar-2001 10:16:42-GMT,3172;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA24026 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 03:16:41 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 8DB5D2AE90; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 11:17:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from dsgt.demon.co.uk (dsgt.demon.co.uk [158.152.245.107]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2JAGlm01726 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 11:16:48 +0100 Received: from dsgt (Administrators@localhost) by dsgt.demon.co.uk (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA00190; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 10:17:50 GMT Resent-Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 10:17:50 GMT Resent-From: jwrmartin@dsgt.demon.co.uk Resent-Message-Id: <200103191017.KAA00190@dsgt.demon.co.uk> From: "John Martin" To: "Pdftex@Tug. Org" Cc: "Sebastian Rahtz" Subject: RE: [pdftex] Setting the font the LaTeX 1 way (or, how do I use bibtex.sty?) Message-ID: <000c01c0b05d$d9f39400$6bf5989e@demon.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <15029.17305.405749.922455@spqr2.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 10:17:50 -0000 |-----Original Message----- |From: pdftex-admin@tug.org [mailto:pdftex-admin@tug.org]On Behalf Of |Sebastian Rahtz |Sent: 18 March 2001 23:24 |To: wbrooks@lug.ee.calpoly.edu |Cc: pdftex@tug.org |Subject: Re: [pdftex] Setting the font the LaTeX 1 way (or, how do I use |bibtex.sty?) | | |Bill Brooks writes: | > started using LaTeX after the release of LaTeX 2/e, I never had a way of | > finding out how to set the font in a LaTeX document the "old" way. |think yourself lucky | | > Unfortunately, I want to generate a list of all the documents |in my BibTeX | > .bib file, and the style that allows me to do that, biblist.sty, is a | > LaTeX 2.09 style, so I can't issue a \usepackage{times} command so that | > the generated .pdf file is readable both in Acrobat and when | > printed. | |have you tried biblist with current LaTeX and it fails? I just assumed |that it works. if not, its almost certainly trivial to fix, and then |everyone would be happy. I use biblist with pdftex (.13d--.14f) and it works snaglessly. John _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 19-Mar-2001 10:26:43-GMT,3182;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA24213 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 03:26:42 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 5FC672B450; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 11:27:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from dsgt.demon.co.uk (dsgt.demon.co.uk [158.152.245.107]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2JAQGm01821 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 11:26:16 +0100 Received: from dsgt (Administrators@localhost) by dsgt.demon.co.uk (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA00209 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 10:27:20 GMT Resent-Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 10:27:20 GMT Resent-From: jwrmartin@dsgt.demon.co.uk Resent-Message-Id: <200103191027.KAA00209@dsgt.demon.co.uk> From: "John Martin" To: "Pdftex@Tug. Org" Message-ID: <000d01c0b05f$2e022c90$6bf5989e@demon.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Subject: [pdftex] Chapter numbering and chapter bibliographies Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 10:27:20 -0000 I am generating a large (>200pp), multi-chapter document that I need to maintain on a chapter-by-chapter basis (course notes for my students). Currently, I am using hyperref and the latest (nearly) versions of pdflatex, etc. I have no problems with the basic stuff, but have yet to tackle/resolve a few bits and pieces. Before I don my digital waders and get into the bowels of latex.ltx et al, I would like to check that no-one else has invented this wheel before me. The things I want to sort out are: 1. Numbering by chapter and getting the thumbnail labels to follow suit. Prologue stuff (title pages, contents, etc) would be i, ii, iii, ..., chapters would be 1-1..1-n_1, M-1..M-n_x, epilogue pages (index, etc) would be roman continuing from the prologue pages. 2. Bibliographic references by chapter with correct hyperlinking. I currently use chapterbib with the osa bst and this appears correct, includes all the correct BiBTeX entries but the hyperlinking is wrong. Has anyone had better experiences with bibunits? Is this sort of thing sorted out by natbib? I would be grateful for comments/advice or even an indication that you've done it and it works! John _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 19-Mar-2001 11:09:54-GMT,4930;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA25019 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 04:09:53 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 778AA2AE98; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 12:10:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from netweb602 (mailhost3.net-serv.co.uk [193.60.158.9]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f2JB9rm02144 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 12:09:53 +0100 Received: from DAVE (62.188.24.195) by netweb602 with MERCUR-SMTP/POP3/IMAP4-Server (v3.30.03 AS-0098310) for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 11:12:23 +0000 Message-ID: <000f01c0b065$158e32c0$0701a8c0@brokerforms.co.uk> From: "David Etherington" To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000C_01C0B065.148ACC80" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Subject: [pdftex] absolute positioning of graphics(pdf's) using pdftex Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 11:09:34 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C0B065.148ACC80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi again, I am still looking for a way to absolutely position graphics (pdf's) in = a tex document for use with pdftex. 1) I do not require any text in the document 2) I simply want to say:- page height=3D10in page width=3D10in include graphic.pdf @position 4in x 3in =20 include graphic.pdf @position 8in x 7in /newpage include graphic.pdf @position 4in x 3in etc etc 3) I have downloaded MikTeX for windows and have all the extra bits like = latex. 4) I am very new to tex and to be honest cannot find help 5) I have had message re bophook but I do not know how to include this, = set it up, what its syntax is etc. Please Help. 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Hi again,
 
I am still looking for a way to = absolutely position=20 graphics (pdf's) in a tex document for use with pdftex.
 
1) I do not require any text in the=20 document
2) I simply want to say:-
 
page height=3D10in
page width=3D10in
 
include graphic.pdf @position 4in x=20 3in
 
include graphic.pdf @position 8in x=20 7in
 
/newpage
 
include graphic.pdf @position 4in x=20 3in
 
 
etc
 
etc
 
3) I have downloaded MikTeX for windows = and have=20 all the extra bits like latex.
 
4) I am very new to tex and to be = honest cannot=20 find help
 
5) I have had message re bophook but I = do not know=20 how to include this, set it up, what its syntax is etc.
 
Please Help.
 
 
Thanks.
------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C0B065.148ACC80-- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 19-Mar-2001 13:08:41-GMT,4150;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA27107 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 06:08:40 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 3A7472AE8D; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 14:09:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp9.xs4all.nl (smtp9.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.135]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2JD8em02766 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 14:08:40 +0100 Received: from server-1.pragma-ade.nl (s340-isdn2213.dial.xs4all.nl [194.109.188.165]) by smtp9.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA06616; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 14:08:14 +0100 (CET) Received: from laptop-1 (laptop-1.pragma-ade.nl [200.1.1.25]) by server-1.pragma-ade.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA01303; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 13:57:42 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20010319135256.009c6d40@server-1> X-Sender: hagen@server-1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) To: "David Etherington" From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: [pdftex] absolute positioning of graphics(pdf's) using pdftex Cc: In-Reply-To: <000f01c0b065$158e32c0$0701a8c0@brokerforms.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 13:52:56 +0100 At 11:09 AM 3/19/01 -0000, David Etherington wrote: > Hi again, I am still looking for a way to absolutely position >graphics (pdf's) in a tex document for use with pdftex. 1) I do not >require any text in the document 2) I simply want to say:- page >height=10in page width=10in include graphic.pdf @position 4in x 3in >include graphic.pdf @position 8in x 7in /newpage include graphic.pdf >@position 4in x 3in etc etc 3) I have downloaded MikTeX for >windows and have all the extra bits like latex. 4) I am very new to tex >and to be honest cannot find help 5) I have had message re bophook but I >do not know how to include this, set it up, what its syntax is etc. >Please Help. Thanks. just use plain tex: \pdfoutput=1 \pdfpagewidth=21cm \pdfpageheight=29.7cm \hoffset=-1in \voffset=-1in \newbox\currentgraphic \newbox\collectedgraphics \def\addsomegraphic#1#2#3% file dx dy {\hsize\pdfpagewidth \vsize\pdfpageheight \setbox\currentgraphic=\hbox {\immediate\pdfximage{#1}\pdfrefximage\pdflastximage} \setbox\collectedgraphics=\vbox to \vsize {\offinterlineskip \ifvoid\collectedgraphics\else \ht\collectedgraphics0pt \wd\collectedgraphics0pt \box\collectedgraphics \fi \vskip#3 \wd\currentgraphic0pt \hbox to \hsize{\hskip#2\box\currentgraphic\hss} \vss}} \def\flushgraphics% {\shipout\box\collectedgraphics} \addsomegraphic{koe.pdf}{0cm}{0cm} \flushgraphics \addsomegraphic{koe.pdf}{3cm}{5cm} \addsomegraphic{koe.pdf}{4cm}{7cm} \flushgraphics \addsomegraphic{koe.pdf}{13cm}{15cm} \addsomegraphic{koe.pdf}{10cm}{11cm} \flushgraphics \end If there is any real demand for such things ... i can make it nicer Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma@wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 19-Mar-2001 13:28:41-GMT,2938;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA27458 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 06:28:40 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 4D2AE2B44F; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 14:29:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de (waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.4.42]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2JDSGm02967 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 14:28:16 +0100 Received: from peano.cs.uni-dortmund.de (peano.cs.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.28.154]) by waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de with ESMTP id OAA22783; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 14:27:51 +0100 (MET) Received: from peano.cs.uni-dortmund.de (tinne@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by peano.cs.uni-dortmund.de (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id OAA00515; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 14:27:51 +0100 Message-Id: <200103191327.OAA00515@peano.cs.uni-dortmund.de> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 (debian) To: "David Etherington" Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] positioning of images In-Reply-To: Message from "David Etherington" of "Mon, 19 Mar 2001 10:12:32 GMT." <001801c0b05d$1da3e020$0701a8c0@brokerforms.co.uk> References: <001801c0b000$da6032c0$0701a8c0@brokerforms.co.uk> <200103182330.AAA12790@peano.cs.uni-dortmund.de> <001801c0b05d$1da3e020$0701a8c0@brokerforms.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: Karsten Tinnefeld Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 14:27:51 +0100 David, > Thanks, but this really isn't very helpful. > > Imagine being new to Word, and then you showing me an example of VB > embedding into an access document. > > You'd think I was nuts. > > Yeah, great advice, buy a book. > 5) HOW DO I ABSOLUTELY POSITION A PDF ON A PAGE USING PDFTEX!!!!!!!!!! Thanks too. Do you really think I am going to discuss with you this way? Karsten -- Karsten Tinnefeld tinnefeld@ls2.cs.uni-dortmund.de Fachbereich Informatik, Lehrstuhl 2 T +49 231 755-4737 Universität Dortmund, D-44221 Dortmund, Deutschland F +49 231 755-2047 _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 19-Mar-2001 14:54:42-GMT,2502;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA29178 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 07:54:41 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id D529B2AE92; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 15:55:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from ember.terry.uga.edu (ember.terry.uga.edu [128.192.28.146]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2JEs9m03523 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 15:54:09 +0100 Received: from terry.uga.edu.terry.uga.edu (IDENT:ecashin@ping.terry.uga.edu [128.192.98.41]) by ember.terry.uga.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA26356; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 09:53:44 -0500 To: Robert Howlett Cc: pdfTeX mailing list Subject: Re: [pdftex] pdf file not displaying properly in browser References: <3AB47B1C.2603E458@mail.usyd.edu.au> From: Ed L Cashin In-Reply-To: <3AB47B1C.2603E458@mail.usyd.edu.au> Message-ID: Lines: 15 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: 19 Mar 2001 09:53:44 -0500 Robert Howlett writes: ... > I am puzzled by a minor problem that I am having now that I have not > had before, at least for several years. The pdf files I create using > pdftex (under Win95 or Win98) display OK using acrord32, but when I > upload them to the place where my students are supposed to find them > and then attempt to view them in my web browser (both IE 5.50 and > Netscape 4.76) not all the fonts show up. Are you uploading and downloading as text or as binary? -- --Ed Cashin PGP public key: ecashin@terry.uga.edu http://www.terry.uga.edu/~ecashin/pgp/ _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 19-Mar-2001 14:58:44-GMT,2461;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA29284 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 07:58:43 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id ACFD72B44A; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 15:59:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from ember.terry.uga.edu (imsp.terry.uga.edu [128.192.28.146]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2JEwYm03605 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 15:58:34 +0100 Received: from terry.uga.edu.terry.uga.edu (IDENT:ecashin@ping.terry.uga.edu [128.192.98.41]) by ember.terry.uga.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA26565; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 09:58:08 -0500 To: pdftex@tug.org Cc: "David Etherington" Subject: Re: [pdftex] positioning of images References: <001801c0b000$da6032c0$0701a8c0@brokerforms.co.uk> <200103182330.AAA12790@peano.cs.uni-dortmund.de> From: Ed L Cashin Message-ID: Lines: 17 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: 19 Mar 2001 09:58:08 -0500 Karsten Tinnefeld writes: [OP wrote] > > I'm very new pdftex, indeed also to tex, and I could do with some help. > > I want to position an image (pdf) on a page in an absolute position. > > I guess you're using the latex macro package with (pdf)tex. If not, > buy a TeXbook and take a holiday. ... and while on holiday, the original poster might also check out ConTeXt, which has a feature for absolute positioning: http://www.pragma-ade.com/context.htm -- --Ed Cashin PGP public key: ecashin@terry.uga.edu http://www.terry.uga.edu/~ecashin/pgp/ _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 19-Mar-2001 21:51:50-GMT,3474;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA13512 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 14:51:49 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 5C3482AE98; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 22:52:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from lorica.ucc.usyd.edu.au (lorica.ucc.usyd.edu.au [129.78.64.15]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2JLp9m05565 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 22:51:10 +0100 Received: from pilum.ucc.usyd.edu.au (IDENT:root@pilum.ucc.usyd.edu.au [129.78.64.178]) by lorica.ucc.usyd.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA10636; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 08:50:32 +1100 (EST) Received: (from wwwmail@localhost) by pilum.ucc.usyd.edu.au (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f2JLofx26428; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 08:50:41 +1100 To: Ed L Cashin Subject: Re: [pdftex] pdf file not displaying properly in browser Message-ID: <985038641.3ab67f317db45@www-mail.usyd.edu.au> From: rhowlett@mail.usyd.edu.au Cc: pdftex@tug.org References: <3AB47B1C.2603E458@mail.usyd.edu.au> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: IMP/PHP IMAP webmail program 2.2.3 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 08:50:41 +1100 (EST) Quoting Ed L Cashin : > Robert Howlett writes: > > ... > > I am puzzled by a minor problem that I am having now that I have not > > had before, at least for several years. The pdf files I create using > > pdftex (under Win95 or Win98) display OK using acrord32, but when I > > upload them to the place where my students are supposed to find them > > and then attempt to view them in my web browser (both IE 5.50 and > > Netscape 4.76) not all the fonts show up. > > Are you uploading and downloading as text or as binary? > > -- > --Ed Cashin PGP public key: > ecashin@terry.uga.edu http://www.terry.uga.edu/~ecashin/pgp/ > > Binary. I now believe that the phenomenon is this: when I first click on the link to the pdf file, the data is transmitted OK and the acrobat reader plug-in starts but the page remains blank. If I now click the browser's "back" button and then the "forward" button then the pdf file comes up OK on the screen. I usually use Netscape but on one occasion IE did something similar. The strange thing is that I've been making and posting these pdf files for years and never had this particular behaviour before (as far as I can remember). All that has changed is the version of pdftex and the version of the browser. Bob ------------------------------------------------- This mail sent through IMP: www-mail.usyd.edu.au _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 19-Mar-2001 22:26:41-GMT,4552;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA14526 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 15:26:40 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 9B6232AE92; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 23:27:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from macadam.mpce.mq.edu.au (macadam.mpce.mq.edu.au [137.111.216.12]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2JMQTm05777 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 23:26:32 +0100 Received: from hera.mpce.mq.edu.au (hera.mpce.mq.edu.au [137.111.219.13]) by macadam.mpce.mq.edu.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA05132; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 09:26:14 +1100 (EST) Received: (from ross@localhost) by hera.mpce.mq.edu.au (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id JAA09784; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 09:26:13 +1100 (EST) From: Ross Moore Message-Id: <200103192226.JAA09784@hera.mpce.mq.edu.au> Subject: Re: [pdftex] pdf file not displaying properly in browser In-Reply-To: <985038641.3ab67f317db45@www-mail.usyd.edu.au> from "rhowlett@mail.usyd.edu.au" at "Mar 20, 2001 08:50:41 am" To: rhowlett@mail.usyd.edu.au Cc: Ed L Cashin , pdftex@tug.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL71 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 09:26:12 +1100 (EST) > Quoting Ed L Cashin : > > > Robert Howlett writes: > > > > ... > > > I am puzzled by a minor problem that I am having now that I have not > > > had before, at least for several years. The pdf files I create using > > > pdftex (under Win95 or Win98) display OK using acrord32, but when I > > > upload them to the place where my students are supposed to find them > > > and then attempt to view them in my web browser (both IE 5.50 and > > > Netscape 4.76) not all the fonts show up. > > > > I now believe that the phenomenon is this: when I first click > on the link to the pdf file, the data is transmitted OK and the > acrobat reader plug-in starts but the page remains blank. If > I now click the browser's "back" button and then the "forward" > button then the pdf file comes up OK on the screen. I usually > use Netscape but on one occasion IE did something similar. Hi Bob, This is similar to a phenomenon that I've observed on a Mac. When the browser downloads the PDF some fonts are reported as missing, yet they can be verified to be on the system. Hit the refresh button; the file refreshes perfectly, with no font problem. Well, that actually depends on whether it is a Netscape refresh or an MSIE refresh. With MSIE the refresh works, as it reads the downloaded file from the cache; but with Netscape the problem persists, as it brings in the data afresh. If the cache file is opened manually using Acrobat or Acrobat Reader, there is no font problem. Of course this only happens when there are non-standard fonts in the document. (Don't ask me to define `standard' here. :-) > The strange thing is that I've been making and posting these > pdf files for years and never had this particular behaviour > before (as far as I can remember). All that has changed is the > version of pdftex and the version of the browser. Test other browsers, and try opening the cached version of the file directly in Acrobat Reader. If these all work, then the updated browser is a dud. That's no solace when you know that your students may have the same browser version. Maybe you can trace it to a particular font, as in my case. Then stop using that font. :-) All the best, Ross Moore > > Bob > > ------------------------------------------------- > This mail sent through IMP: www-mail.usyd.edu.au > _______________________________________________ > pdftex mailing list > pdftex@tug.org > http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 19-Mar-2001 22:28:43-GMT,3281;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA14563 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 15:28:42 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 32F262AD02; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 23:29:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from nova.kettering.edu (nova.kettering.edu [192.138.137.2]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2JMS2m05847 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 23:28:02 +0100 Received: from gaspra.kettering.edu (IDENT:root@gaspra.kettering.edu [198.110.4.97]) by nova.kettering.edu (8.10.1/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f2JMRSo00014; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 17:27:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (IDENT:mwicks@localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gaspra.kettering.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA12522; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 17:27:38 -0500 From: "Mark A. Wicks" To: rhowlett@mail.usyd.edu.au Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] pdf file not displaying properly in browser In-Reply-To: <985038641.3ab67f317db45@www-mail.usyd.edu.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 17:27:38 -0500 (EST) On Tue, 20 Mar 2001 rhowlett@mail.usyd.edu.au wrote: > > Robert Howlett writes: > > > > ... > > > I am puzzled by a minor problem that I am having now that I have not > > > had before, at least for several years. The pdf files I create using > I now believe that the phenomenon is this: when I first click > on the link to the pdf file, the data is transmitted OK and the > acrobat reader plug-in starts but the page remains blank. If > I now click the browser's "back" button and then the "forward" > button then the pdf file comes up OK on the screen. I usually > use Netscape but on one occasion IE did something similar. > > The strange thing is that I've been making and posting these > pdf files for years and never had this particular behaviour > before (as far as I can remember). All that has changed is the > version of pdftex and the version of the browser. That behavior sounds like well-known bug that occured with certain combinations of Netscape and the Acrobat reader plug-in. I don't recall IE being affected. I thought it had been fixed and I haven't seen it in a while. If it's the same problem, the workaround is to load the document into Acrobat (the full-product, not the reader) and select the "optimize" option. New versions of GS have a stand-alone optimizer. _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 19-Mar-2001 22:58:41-GMT,3734;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA15412 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 15:58:40 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 412AF2B44A; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 23:59:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de (zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.53]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2JMwhm05970 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 23:58:43 +0100 Received: from zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de.kammer.uni-hannover.de (reinhard@zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.54]) by zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA14552; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 23:56:59 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de: Host reinhard@zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.54] claimed to be zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de.kammer.uni-hannover.de From: Reinhard Kotucha MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15030.36618.230823.955828@zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de> To: rhowlett@mail.usyd.edu.au Cc: Ed L Cashin , pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] pdf file not displaying properly in browser In-Reply-To: <985038641.3ab67f317db45@www-mail.usyd.edu.au> References: <3AB47B1C.2603E458@mail.usyd.edu.au> <985038641.3ab67f317db45@www-mail.usyd.edu.au> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under Emacs 20.7.2 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 23:58:18 +0100 >>>>> "Bob" == rhowlett writes: > Binary. > I now believe that the phenomenon is this: when I first click on > the link to the pdf file, the data is transmitted OK and the > acrobat reader plug-in starts but the page remains blank. If I > now click the browser's "back" button and then the "forward" > button then the pdf file comes up OK on the screen. I usually > use Netscape but on one occasion IE did something similar. > The strange thing is that I've been making and posting these pdf > files for years and never had this particular behaviour before > (as far as I can remember). All that has changed is the version > of pdftex and the version of the browser. I had some problems with acroread when the page cache was activated. It's some time ago and I don't remember what kind of problem it was. But disabling the page cache in the File->Preferences->General helped. Maybe it's worth a try. Regards, Reinhard -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Reinhard Kotucha Phone: +49-511-751355 Berggartenstr. 9 D-30419 Hannover mailto:reinhard@kammer.uni-hannover.de ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Microsoft isn't the answer. Microsoft is the question, and the answer is NO. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 20-Mar-2001 3:23:41-GMT,3862;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA21890 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 20:23:40 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 9D36D2AE8C; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 04:24:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from lorica.ucc.usyd.edu.au (lorica.ucc.usyd.edu.au [129.78.64.15]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2K3NUm07246 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 04:23:31 +0100 Received: from pilum.ucc.usyd.edu.au (IDENT:root@pilum.ucc.usyd.edu.au [129.78.64.178]) by lorica.ucc.usyd.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA00985; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 14:22:54 +1100 (EST) Received: (from wwwmail@localhost) by pilum.ucc.usyd.edu.au (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f2K3N3G05882; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 14:23:03 +1100 To: Ross Moore Subject: Re: [pdftex] pdf file not displaying properly in browser Message-ID: <985058583.3ab6cd17459cf@www-mail.usyd.edu.au> From: rhowlett@mail.usyd.edu.au Cc: pdftex@tug.org References: <200103192226.JAA09784@hera.mpce.mq.edu.au> In-Reply-To: <200103192226.JAA09784@hera.mpce.mq.edu.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: IMP/PHP IMAP webmail program 2.2.3 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 14:23:03 +1100 (EST) Quoting Ross Moore : > Hi Bob, > > This is similar to a phenomenon that I've observed on a Mac. > When the browser downloads the PDF some fonts are reported as missing, > yet they can be verified to be on the system. > Hit the refresh button; the file refreshes perfectly, with no font > problem. > > Well, that actually depends on whether it is a Netscape refresh > or an MSIE refresh. With MSIE the refresh works, as it reads the > downloaded > file from the cache; but with Netscape the problem persists, as it > brings in the data afresh. If the cache file is opened manually using > Acrobat or Acrobat Reader, there is no font problem. > > Of course this only happens when there are non-standard fonts in the > document. > (Don't ask me to define `standard' here. :-) > > > > The strange thing is that I've been making and posting these > > pdf files for years and never had this particular behaviour > > before (as far as I can remember). All that has changed is the > > version of pdftex and the version of the browser. > > Test other browsers, and try opening the cached version of the file > directly in Acrobat Reader. If these all work, then the updated > browser > is a dud. > > That's no solace when you know that your students may have the same > browser version. Maybe you can trace it to a particular font, as in my > case. > Then stop using that font. :-) > > > All the best, > > Ross Moore > Hi Ross, For a while I thought that it was cmbx10 and/or cmbx12 that was triggering the problem -- but the problem is hard to reproduce; so I'm not sure. Sometimes I wonder whether I imagined it ... None of the students have complained; so I guess I'll forget about it until they do. Bob ------------------------------------------------- This mail sent through IMP: www-mail.usyd.edu.au _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 20-Mar-2001 3:24:42-GMT,4480;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA21914 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 20:24:41 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 034662AE93; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 04:25:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from aecl.ca (mail.aecl.ca [132.225.5.10]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2K3ODm07309 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 04:24:13 +0100 Received: from crs27.crl.aecl.ca ([132.225.33.23]) by gw.aecl.ca with ESMTP id <115250>; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 22:13:04 -0500 Received: by crs27.crl.aecl.ca with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 22:23:35 -0500 Message-ID: <0F36CD681E3DD311B49E00805F3160BC01AF063C@crs27.crl.aecl.ca> From: "Beuthe, Thomas" To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: FW: [pdftex] pdf file not displaying properly in browser MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 22:23:30 -0500 Hey! There are even more interesting problems that can occur if you're not even using the "directly create a pdf via pdftex" route. Consider the poor sap who uses distiller (a commercial product), and doesn't realise that there's something called Settings > job options > fonts and in here, there's something called "never embed" which, by default contains all of the usual fonts contained on a PC. Things like times and so on. But, what if you happen to have a mac? Oops. Or, like me you are distilling postscripts put out by Corel which have neat Greek characters in them that get ignored, but my system doesn't have these fonts resident? What happens? When you try to display the file, the Greek symbols just aren't there. Error messages? Nope! There never were any! What a feature that is! It took me three solid days to find that one. So much for "portable". Lesson to everyone: make sure you ALWAYS embed ALL of your fonts! Otherwise your pdf file may only by "df" and not "p". Just thought you might be interested... -----Original Message----- From: Mark A. Wicks [mailto:mwicks@kettering.edu] Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 5:28 PM To: rhowlett@mail.usyd.edu.au Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] pdf file not displaying properly in browser On Tue, 20 Mar 2001 rhowlett@mail.usyd.edu.au wrote: > > Robert Howlett writes: > > > > ... > > > I am puzzled by a minor problem that I am having now that I have not > > > had before, at least for several years. The pdf files I create using > I now believe that the phenomenon is this: when I first click > on the link to the pdf file, the data is transmitted OK and the > acrobat reader plug-in starts but the page remains blank. If > I now click the browser's "back" button and then the "forward" > button then the pdf file comes up OK on the screen. I usually > use Netscape but on one occasion IE did something similar. > > The strange thing is that I've been making and posting these > pdf files for years and never had this particular behaviour > before (as far as I can remember). All that has changed is the > version of pdftex and the version of the browser. That behavior sounds like well-known bug that occured with certain combinations of Netscape and the Acrobat reader plug-in. I don't recall IE being affected. I thought it had been fixed and I haven't seen it in a while. If it's the same problem, the workaround is to load the document into Acrobat (the full-product, not the reader) and select the "optimize" option. New versions of GS have a stand-alone optimizer. _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 20-Mar-2001 3:34:46-GMT,3243;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA22311 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 20:34:45 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id E98AC2AE8D; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 04:35:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from lorica.ucc.usyd.edu.au (lorica.ucc.usyd.edu.au [129.78.64.15]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2K3Y6m07350 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 04:34:07 +0100 Received: from pilum.ucc.usyd.edu.au (IDENT:root@pilum.ucc.usyd.edu.au [129.78.64.178]) by lorica.ucc.usyd.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA07273; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 14:33:30 +1100 (EST) Received: (from wwwmail@localhost) by pilum.ucc.usyd.edu.au (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f2K3XdC06201; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 14:33:39 +1100 To: "Mark A. Wicks" Subject: Re: [pdftex] pdf file not displaying properly in browser Message-ID: <985059219.3ab6cf933b26d@www-mail.usyd.edu.au> From: rhowlett@mail.usyd.edu.au Cc: pdftex@tug.org References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: IMP/PHP IMAP webmail program 2.2.3 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 14:33:39 +1100 (EST) Quoting "Mark A. Wicks" : > That behavior sounds like well-known bug that occured with certain > combinations of Netscape and the Acrobat reader plug-in. I don't > recall > IE being affected. I thought it had been fixed and I haven't seen it in > a > while. If it's the same problem, the workaround is to load the > document > into Acrobat (the full-product, not the reader) and select the > "optimize" > option. New versions of GS have a stand-alone optimizer. > I thought it happened with IE once -- but I haven't reproduced it. I haven't tried the GS optimizer. On a few occasions (quite a while ago) I had some problems with some optimized pdf files that I was trying to read on the web, and I came to the conclusion that I didn't want to optimize my pdf files. But it seems that most people think optimizing is good. I guess the problem I encountered was actually unrelated to the fact that the files were optimized. I'd like to know the pros and cons (if there are any cons) of optimizing one's pdftex-produced pdf files. Bob ------------------------------------------------- This mail sent through IMP: www-mail.usyd.edu.au _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 20-Mar-2001 9:08:43-GMT,2753;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA29325 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 02:08:42 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 2D5012AD02; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 10:09:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp9.xs4all.nl (smtp9.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.135]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2K98xm08473 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 10:08:59 +0100 Received: from server-1.pragma-ade.nl (s340-isdn2310.dial.xs4all.nl [194.109.189.6]) by smtp9.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA21473; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 10:08:29 +0100 (CET) Received: from laptop-1 (laptop-1.pragma-ade.nl [200.1.1.25]) by server-1.pragma-ade.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA05227; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 09:48:25 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20010320094252.017424c0@server-1> X-Sender: hagen@server-1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) To: rhowlett@mail.usyd.edu.au From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: [pdftex] pdf file not displaying properly in browser Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: <985059219.3ab6cf933b26d@www-mail.usyd.edu.au> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 09:42:52 +0100 At 02:33 PM 3/20/01 +1100, rhowlett@mail.usyd.edu.au wrote: > >I'd like to know the pros and cons (if there are any cons) of >optimizing one's pdftex-produced pdf files. Optimizing is always a good idea and as far as i know rather robust too (nowadays). Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma@wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 20-Mar-2001 9:09:20-GMT,3965;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA29343 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 02:09:19 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id BEC972AE8F; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 10:09:03 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp9.xs4all.nl (smtp9.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.135]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2K990m08477 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 10:09:00 +0100 Received: from server-1.pragma-ade.nl (s340-isdn2310.dial.xs4all.nl [194.109.189.6]) by smtp9.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA21579; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 10:08:35 +0100 (CET) Received: from laptop-1 (laptop-1.pragma-ade.nl [200.1.1.25]) by server-1.pragma-ade.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA05226; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 09:48:24 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20010320094036.01711e60@server-1> X-Sender: hagen@server-1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) To: Reinhard Kotucha From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: [pdftex] pdf file not displaying properly in browser Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: <15030.36618.230823.955828@zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de > References: <985038641.3ab67f317db45@www-mail.usyd.edu.au> <3AB47B1C.2603E458@mail.usyd.edu.au> <985038641.3ab67f317db45@www-mail.usyd.edu.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 09:40:36 +0100 At 11:58 PM 3/19/01 +0100, Reinhard Kotucha wrote: >>>>>> "Bob" == rhowlett writes: > > > Binary. > > > I now believe that the phenomenon is this: when I first click on > > the link to the pdf file, the data is transmitted OK and the > > acrobat reader plug-in starts but the page remains blank. If I > > now click the browser's "back" button and then the "forward" > > button then the pdf file comes up OK on the screen. I usually > > use Netscape but on one occasion IE did something similar. > > > The strange thing is that I've been making and posting these pdf > > files for years and never had this particular behaviour before > > (as far as I can remember). All that has changed is the version > > of pdftex and the version of the browser. > >I had some problems with acroread when the page cache was activated. >It's some time ago and I don't remember what kind of problem it was. >But disabling the page cache in the File->Preferences->General helped. > >Maybe it's worth a try. In many cases it will; never use the page cache unless you know that the doc works. Another troublesome area is the initialization of widgets (fields, javascripts); this differs per viewer cq. version (it really makes a difference if fields are declared befors the js interpreter starts or the reverse; in this respect acrobat is a mess). Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma@wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 20-Mar-2001 9:11:53-GMT,3331;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA29392 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 02:11:52 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 686B32AE98; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 10:10:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp9.xs4all.nl (smtp9.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.135]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2K992m08483 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 10:09:02 +0100 Received: from server-1.pragma-ade.nl (s340-isdn2310.dial.xs4all.nl [194.109.189.6]) by smtp9.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA21589; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 10:08:36 +0100 (CET) Received: from laptop-1 (laptop-1.pragma-ade.nl [200.1.1.25]) by server-1.pragma-ade.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA05225; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 09:48:24 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20010320093752.01712e20@server-1> X-Sender: hagen@server-1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) To: "Mark A. Wicks" From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: [pdftex] pdf file not displaying properly in browser Cc: rhowlett@mail.usyd.edu.au, pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: References: <985038641.3ab67f317db45@www-mail.usyd.edu.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 09:37:52 +0100 At 05:27 PM 3/19/01 -0500, Mark A. Wicks wrote: > That behavior sounds like well-known bug that occured with certain >combinations of Netscape and the Acrobat reader plug-in. I don't recall >IE being affected. I thought it had been fixed and I haven't seen it in a >while. If it's the same problem, the workaround is to load the document >into Acrobat (the full-product, not the reader) and select the "optimize" >option. New versions of GS have a stand-alone optimizer. I found out that its best to have (at least on windows) acrobat open before clicking on a pdf link in the browser. Also, on slow connections, it seems that time outs also play a role. Sometimes the in-browser acrobat screen stays blank, but the goback button brings it up in a flash. I think that there are some fundamental problems between caching, signalling, refreshing etc. Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma@wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 20-Mar-2001 14:23:42-GMT,3664;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA05196 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 07:23:41 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 2BBF92AE8D; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 15:24:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from mta8 (mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.23]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2KENVm09869 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 15:23:32 +0100 Received: from ool-18bc2375.dyn.optonline.net (ool-18bbe111.dyn.optonline.net [24.187.225.17]) by mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.0 Patch 2 (built Dec 14 2000)) with ESMTP id <0GAI006SE2L89V@mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for pdftex@tug.org; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 09:22:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (from ats@localhost) by ool-18bc2375.dyn.optonline.net (8.11.2/8.9.3) id f2KEMPk19710; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 09:22:25 -0500 From: Alan Shutko In-reply-to: <3.0.6.32.20010320094252.017424c0@server-1> To: pdftex@tug.org Message-id: <87hf0oef3q.fsf@wesley.springies.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT User-Agent: Gnus/5.090001 (Oort Gnus v0.01) Emacs/21.0.100 Lines: 27 References: <3.0.6.32.20010320094252.017424c0@server-1> Subject: [pdftex] Re: pdf file not displaying properly in browser Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 09:22:23 -0500 Hans Hagen writes: > Optimizing is always a good idea and as far as i know rather robust too > (nowadays). I've been having troubles getting pdfopt to work on pdflatex'd files. With both GS 6.50 and 6.61: [08:33:55] wesley:~/gs6.61/lib $ ../bin/gs -q -dNODISPLAY -- pdfopt.ps resume.pdf opt.pdf ERROR: file position incorrect by -1 Error: /rangecheck in padto Operand stack: --nostringval-- Execution stack: %interp_exit .runexec2 --nostringval-- --nostringval-- --nostringval-- 2 %stopped_push --nostringval-- --nostringval-- --nostringval-- false 1 %stopped_push 1 3 %oparray_pop 1 3 %oparray_pop 1 3 %oparray_pop .runexec2 --nostringval-- --nostringval-- --nostringval-- 2 %stopped_push --nostringval-- --nostringval-- --nostringval-- --nostringval-- --nostringval-- Dictionary stack: --dict:958/1123(ro)(G)-- --dict:0/20(G)-- --dict:97/200(L)-- --dict:73/200(G)-- --dict:197/230(ro)(G)-- --dict:16/24(L)-- --dict:23/40(L)-- --dict:35/36(L)-- Current allocation mode is local Current file position is 30124 AFPL Ghostscript DEVELOPMENT RELEASE 6.61: Unrecoverable error, exit code 1 That file was 13d... I've also tried 14f and files from 12o. I only see this problem with pdflatex'd files... anyone else see this? -- Alan Shutko - In a variety of flavors! Let he who takes the plunge remember to return it by Tuesday. _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 22-Mar-2001 3:08:42-GMT,4060;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA02670 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 20:08:40 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 4F1F02AE8E; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 04:09:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from picknowl.com.au (mailserver2.picknowl.com.au [203.24.77.2]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2M38qm19820 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 04:08:53 +0100 Received: from mailserver1.infoeng.flinders.edu.au (mailserver1.picknowl.com.au [10.1.1.4]) by mailserver2.picknowl.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA20559 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 13:38:24 +1030 Received: from [203.58.174.153] by mailserver1.picknowl.com.au (NTMail 5.03.0001/NU2410.00.c584a8e8) with ESMTP id nflppbaa for pdftex@tug.org; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 13:38:25 +1030 Received: from mark by destiny.localdomain with local (Exim 3.16 #1 (Debian)) id 14fvSY-0000ex-00; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 13:38:22 +1030 From: Mark Phillips To: pdftex@tug.org Message-ID: <20010322133821.Z7048@ist.flinders.edu.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Subject: [pdftex] \includegraphics doesn't work (no BoundingBox) Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 13:38:21 +1030 Hi, I have used latex for a long time, but am new to pdflatex. I want to include an eps file (generated via xfig) in my document. In the past I have done this with \epsfig but from reading archives of this mailing list --- this doesn't work for pdflatex. I have followed suggestions I found in the archives and done the following: 1. Converted the .eps file to a .pdf file using the perl program epstopdf 2. Put \usepackage{graphicx} or \usepackage{graphics} in my document (I've tried both --- what's the difference between them?) 3. Done: \begin{center} \includegraphics[width=140mm]{xfig/ch1/doubsq.pdf} \end{center} in my document. 4. Tried to do pdflatex on my file (under linux) With \usepackage{graphicx} I get the error: ! LaTeX Error: Cannot determine size of graphic in xfig/ch1/doubsq.pdf (no Boun dingBox). See the LaTeX manual or LaTeX Companion for explanation. Type H for immediate help. ... l.10 ...graphics[width=140mm]{xfig/ch1/doubsq.pdf} With \usepackage{graphics} I get the error: Runaway argument? width=140mm]{xfig/ch1/doubsq.pdf} \end {center} ! Paragraph ended before \Gin@iii was complete. \par The same error occurs when I use latex rather than pdflatex. I have also tried using the option \usepackage[pdftex]{graphicx} but this doesn't help. What could be wrong? Thanks, Mark. -- _/~~~~~~~~\___/~~~~~~\____________________________________________________ ____/~~\_____/~~\__/~~\__________________________Mark_Phillips____________ ____/~~\_____/~~\________________________________mark@ist.flinders.edu.au_ ____/~~\HE___/~~\__/~~\APTAIN_____________________________________________ ____/~~\______/~~~~~~\____________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________________________ "They told me I was gullible ... and I believed them!" _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 22-Mar-2001 3:38:40-GMT,2000;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA03315 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 20:38:39 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 76D1D2AE90; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 04:39:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from jupiter.fsci.fuk.kindai.ac.jp (jupiter.fsci.fuk.kindai.ac.jp [157.13.51.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2M3cem19976 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 04:38:40 +0100 Received: by jupiter.fsci.fuk.kindai.ac.jp (8.9.3+3.2W/3.7W-kfsci) id MAA28788; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 12:40:21 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <200103220340.MAA28788@jupiter.fsci.fuk.kindai.ac.jp> To: mark@infoeng.flinders.edu.au Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] \includegraphics doesn't work (no BoundingBox) In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 22 Mar 2001 13:38:21 +1030" References: <20010322133821.Z7048@ist.flinders.edu.au> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.70 on Emacs 19.34.1 / Mule 2.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Akira Kakuto Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 12:40:19 +0900 > With \usepackage{graphicx} I get the error: should be \usepackage[pdftex]{graphicx} -- Akira Kakuto _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 22-Mar-2001 5:27:40-GMT,3292;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA05568 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 22:27:39 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 465602AE90; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 06:28:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from picknowl.com.au (mailserver2.picknowl.com.au [203.24.77.2]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2M5RVm20345 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 06:27:31 +0100 Received: from mailserver1.infoeng.flinders.edu.au (mailserver1.picknowl.com.au [10.1.1.4]) by mailserver2.picknowl.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA29737 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 15:57:01 +1030 Received: from [203.58.174.153] by mailserver1.picknowl.com.au (NTMail 5.03.0001/NU2410.00.c584a8e8) with ESMTP id uyuppbaa for pdftex@tug.org; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 15:56:58 +1030 Received: from mark by destiny.localdomain with local (Exim 3.16 #1 (Debian)) id 14fxcd-0000x2-00; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 15:56:55 +1030 From: Mark Phillips To: Chris Hubert Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] \includegraphics doesn't work (no BoundingBox) Message-ID: <20010322155654.A7048@ist.flinders.edu.au> References: <20010322133821.Z7048@ist.flinders.edu.au> <4.2.2.20010321225534.02842d40@rclsgi.eng.ohio-state.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20010321225534.02842d40@rclsgi.eng.ohio-state.edu>; from hubert@rclsgi.eng.ohio-state.edu on Wed, Mar 21, 2001 at 10:58:36PM -0500 X-Operating-System: Linux 2.0.32 on an i486 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 15:56:54 +1030 Chris Hubert [hubert@rclsgi.eng.ohio-state.edu] wrote: > I'm not positive, but try... > > 1) \usepackage[pdftex]{graphicx} > 2) \includegraphics[width=140mm]{xfig/ch1/doubsq} > > I know you have done step 1, but try doing step 2 as well-- namely take > off the .pdf > > I won't guarantee success, but it works for me. Yes this works. Thanks! -- _/~~~~~~~~\___/~~~~~~\____________________________________________________ ____/~~\_____/~~\__/~~\__________________________Mark_Phillips____________ ____/~~\_____/~~\________________________________mark@ist.flinders.edu.au_ ____/~~\HE___/~~\__/~~\APTAIN_____________________________________________ ____/~~\______/~~~~~~\____________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________________________ "They told me I was gullible ... and I believed them!" _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 22-Mar-2001 5:33:41-GMT,2948;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA05696 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 22:33:40 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 864362AEEA; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 06:34:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from picknowl.com.au (mailserver2.picknowl.com.au [203.24.77.2]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2M5XEm20420 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 06:33:15 +0100 Received: from mailserver1.infoeng.flinders.edu.au (mailserver1.picknowl.com.au [10.1.1.4]) by mailserver2.picknowl.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA30308 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 16:02:46 +1030 Received: from [203.58.174.153] by mailserver1.picknowl.com.au (NTMail 5.03.0001/NU2410.00.c584a8e8) with ESMTP id cnvppbaa for pdftex@tug.org; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 16:02:40 +1030 Received: from mark by destiny.localdomain with local (Exim 3.16 #1 (Debian)) id 14fxiA-0000xz-00 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 16:02:38 +1030 From: Mark Phillips To: pdftex@tug.org Message-ID: <20010322160238.B7048@ist.flinders.edu.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Operating-System: Linux 2.0.32 on an i486 Subject: [pdftex] How to limit pages range?? (eg pages 21-42) Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 16:02:38 +1030 Hi, How can I specify that I only want a limited range of pages in my pdf output? If I used latex to generate a dvi file, I could then do something like: dvips -p 21 -l 42 file.dvi But how do I do the equivalent thing with pdflatex? I can't seem to find anything in the documentation. Thanks, Mark. -- _/~~~~~~~~\___/~~~~~~\____________________________________________________ ____/~~\_____/~~\__/~~\__________________________Mark_Phillips____________ ____/~~\_____/~~\________________________________mark@ist.flinders.edu.au_ ____/~~\HE___/~~\__/~~\APTAIN_____________________________________________ ____/~~\______/~~~~~~\____________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________________________ "They told me I was gullible ... and I believed them!" _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 22-Mar-2001 6:50:41-GMT,2588;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA07086 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 23:50:40 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 416A52AE98; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 07:51:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from narmada.river-valley.com ([210.212.246.184]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2M6nwm20719 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 07:50:04 +0100 Received: from localhost (IDENT:cvr@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by narmada.river-valley.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA07791; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 12:23:00 +0530 From: Radhakrishnan CV To: Mark Phillips Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] How to limit pages range?? (eg pages 21-42) In-Reply-To: <20010322160238.B7048@ist.flinders.edu.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 12:23:00 +0530 (IST) On Thu, 22 Mar 2001, Mark Phillips wrote: : How can I specify that I only want a limited range of pages in my pdf : output? If I used latex to generate a dvi file, I could then do : something like: 1. grab the pdfpages from CTAN. 2. Compile your document with pdfLaTeX in the normal way. 3. Make a document as given below: \documentclass{article} \usepackage[final]{pdfpages} \begin{document} \includepdf[firstpage=30, % the start page lastpage=40] % the end page {your source pdf with/without extension} \end{document} 4. Compile this document with pdfLaTeX, you get a new pdf exactly like the original with the marked pages alone. -- Radhakrishnan __________________________________________________________________ I have signed it at http://FreeDevelopers.Net/freedomdec, did you? _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 22-Mar-2001 16:54:41-GMT,1770;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA19754 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 09:54:40 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 095AB2AD02; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 17:55:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from cromath.math.hr (cromath.math.hr [161.53.8.10]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2MGsPm23569 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 17:54:25 +0100 Received: (from caklovic@localhost) by cromath.math.hr (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA29935; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 17:53:57 +0100 (MET) From: Lavoslav Caklovic To: pdftex@tug.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [pdftex] Annotation and Latin2 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 17:53:55 +0200 (METDST) Hollo, can anyone suggest me how to get ISO Latin2 characters in annotation box while using pdftex. Thanks, L. Caklovic Univ. of Zagreb Croatia _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 22-Mar-2001 18:47:40-GMT,2361;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA22886 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 11:47:39 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id F22C62AD02; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 19:48:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f2MIlUm24077 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 19:47:30 +0100 Received: from remote142-161.home.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.142.161] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 14gA6v-0005AD-00; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 19:47:01 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.20010322184347.29c7bee8@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) To: Lavoslav Caklovic , pdftex@tug.org From: Heiko Oberdiek Subject: Re: [pdftex] Annotation and Latin2 In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 18:43:47 +0100 At 17:53 22.03.2001 +0200, Lavoslav Caklovic wrote: >can anyone suggest me how to get ISO Latin2 >characters in annotation box while using pdftex. If you are using hyperref, you can try \pdfstringdef: \usepackage[latin2]{inputenc} % I think that not all characters will be available % in PDFDocEncoding, so probably unicode will help: \usepackage[unicode,...]{hyperref} ... \pdfstringdef\myannottext{foo bar bla} % and use \myannottext in your annotation. Yours sincerely Heiko _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 23-Mar-2001 10:54:41-GMT,2366;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA18948 for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 03:54:39 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id A84CB2AD02; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 11:55:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from cromath.math.hr (cromath.math.hr [161.53.8.10]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2NAstm27374 for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 11:54:55 +0100 Received: (from caklovic@localhost) by cromath.math.hr (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA08646; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 11:52:59 +0100 (MET) From: Lavoslav Caklovic Subject: Re: [pdftex] Annotation and Latin2 To: Heiko Oberdiek Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.16.20010322184347.29c7bee8@localhost> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 11:52:58 +0200 (METDST) Thanks to Heiko Oberdiek for solution. It works! Lavoslav Caklovic On Thu, 22 Mar 2001, Heiko Oberdiek wrote: > At 17:53 22.03.2001 +0200, Lavoslav Caklovic wrote: > > >can anyone suggest me how to get ISO Latin2 > >characters in annotation box while using pdftex. > > If you are using hyperref, you can try \pdfstringdef: > > \usepackage[latin2]{inputenc} > % I think that not all characters will be available > % in PDFDocEncoding, so probably unicode will help: > \usepackage[unicode,...]{hyperref} > ... > \pdfstringdef\myannottext{foo bar bla} > % and use \myannottext in your annotation. > > Yours sincerely > Heiko > _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 24-Mar-2001 20:31:40-GMT,2606;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA05594 for ; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 13:31:39 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 292682AD02; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 21:32:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from math.berkeley.edu (gold.Math.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.58.61]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2OKVJm01806 for ; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 21:31:19 +0100 Received: (from desouza@localhost) by math.berkeley.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA03253 for pdftex@tug.org; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 12:30:51 -0800 (PST) From: Paulo Ney de Souza Message-Id: <200103242030.MAA03253@math.berkeley.edu> To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: [pdftex] strange bug! Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 12:30:51 -0800 (PST) In the process of porting a package to pdflatex we found the following strange behaviour in "pdflatex" and hopefully someone here can account for what is going on. The file below, when processed with pdflatex and the 3 comments does NOT produce the second (uncommented) picture. If the 3 comments are taken OUT then it produces both pictures! The (strange) behaviour does not show when one use stardard "latex"... so I am assuming it is a problem with "pdflatex". Does anyone knows what is going on ? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- \documentclass{report} \usepackage[pdftex]{graphicx} \begin{document} This is a figure: %\begin{figure}[h] %\includegraphics{foo} %\end{figure} \begin{figure}[h] \includegraphics[bb= 100 300 200 500]{foo} \end{figure} \end{document} ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The problem seems to be independent of the graphics files foo.{ps,pdf} but just in case anyone needs it, you can get it at http://www.math.berkeley.edu/~desouza/badpdf/ Paulo Ney _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 24-Mar-2001 20:48:40-GMT,2764;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA05971 for ; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 13:48:38 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 36A872AE8D; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 21:49:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.epost.de (mail.epost.de [64.39.38.72] (may be forged)) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2OKmsm01916 for ; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 21:48:54 +0100 Received: from B88ac.pppool.de (213.7.136.172) by mail.epost.de (5.5.022) id 3AB86CBA0002D695 for pdftex@tug.org; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 21:48:17 +0100 From: Aiko Huckauf X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.49) UNREG / CD5BF9353B3B7091 Reply-To: Aiko Huckauf X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <34795520.20010324214826@epost.de> To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] strange bug! In-reply-To: <200103242030.MAA03253@math.berkeley.edu> References: <200103242030.MAA03253@math.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 21:48:26 +0100 Saturday, March 24, 2001, 9:30:51 PM, Paulo Ney de Souza wrote: > The file below, when processed with pdflatex and the 3 comments does NOT > produce the second (uncommented) picture. If the 3 comments are taken > OUT then it produces both pictures! The (strange) behaviour does not show > when one use stardard "latex"... so I am assuming it is a problem with > "pdflatex". Does anyone knows what is going on ? I have tested the document, both with one of my own pdf-graphics and the foo.pdf from you. I can't reproduce the problem - in my case everything worked fine, i. e. as expected: I get one graphic if I let the first picture commented and two graphics when I remove the comments. Are you sure your pdfTeX is set up correctly? Does it work with other .tex files? Which OS and which editor do you use? Maybe the problem is due to this. If not, I have no idea... Greetings from Kiel Aiko Huckauf _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 24-Mar-2001 21:54:40-GMT,2122;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA07267 for ; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 14:54:39 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 26BD82AD02; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 22:55:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from math.berkeley.edu (gold.Math.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.58.61]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2OLsQm02192 for ; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 22:54:26 +0100 Received: from math.berkeley.edu (marinabay.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.183.220]) by math.berkeley.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA06175; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 13:53:56 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3ABD1776.3735AFB2@math.berkeley.edu> From: Paulo Ney de Souza Reply-To: desouza@math.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Aiko Huckauf Cc: pdftex@tug.org, levy@msri.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] strange bug! References: <200103242030.MAA03253@math.berkeley.edu> <34795520.20010324214826@epost.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 13:53:59 -0800 I get the problem when running both on our machines here at Berkeley, as well as the pre-installed software under RedHat 7.0. Does anyone know if the installs below are current ? solaris 2.7 -> pdflatex -v pdfTeX (Web2C 7.3.1) 3.14159-0.14e-pretest-20000210 kpathsea version 3.3.1 Copyright (C) 1999 Han The Thanh, Petr Sojka, and Jiri Zlatuska. 24-Mar-2001 22:48:40-GMT,2889;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA08355 for ; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 15:48:39 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 019C02AE8E; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 23:49:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from post.webmailer.de (natmail2.webmailer.de [192.67.198.65]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2OMmqm02444 for ; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 23:48:52 +0100 Received: from morphin.marquardt-home.de (d211.nas21.sonic.net [209.204.136.211]) by post.webmailer.de (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA11163 for ; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 23:48:24 +0100 (MET) Received: from colin by morphin.marquardt-home.de with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 14gwo6-00045C-00 for ; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 14:46:50 -0800 X-Draft-From: ("nnml+private:mail:pdfTeX-List" 2471) To: pdftex From: Colin Marquardt X-GnuPG-Key: gpg --keyserver pgp.ai.mit.edu --recv-keys F53AF5C4 X-Home-Page: http://www.marquardt-home.de X-Fingerprint: F374 9BE1 87BE 8166 6D31 08BE 04CB CC2A F53A F5C4 X-Jabber-UID: cmarqu (see http://www.jabber.org) X-Now-Playing: Suicidal Tendencies's Free Your Soul... And Save My Mind - Charlie Monroe User-Agent: Gnus/5.090001 (Oort Gnus v0.01) XEmacs/21.1 (Capitol Reef) (UNREGISTERED) Organization: I'd rather call it chaos. In-Reply-To: <39F2EAD6.6E2F6C08@daltons.net> (Barney Dalton's message of "Sun, 22 Oct 2000 14:25:42 +0100") Message-ID: Lines: 17 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [pdftex] pdfTeX in the big business now Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: 24 Mar 2001 14:46:50 -0800 Hi, in case this is news: Germany's "Deutsche Bahn" has a test server running pdfTeX that generates customized time tables for their railroad service: http://print2web.hafas.de/bin/help.exe/en?tpl=index (German: http://print2web.hafas.de) Do people know of other exposures of pdfTeX to the broad public like that? I know some of Hans Hagen's projects, but these seem more specialized than print2web. Cheers, Colin -- YYURYYUBICURYY4ME. _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 24-Mar-2001 23:24:40-GMT,3535;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA09096 for ; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 16:24:38 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 060EE2AE8E; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 00:25:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from macadam.mpce.mq.edu.au (macadam.mpce.mq.edu.au [137.111.216.12]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2ONOGm02606 for ; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 00:24:16 +0100 Received: from hera.mpce.mq.edu.au (hera.mpce.mq.edu.au [137.111.219.13]) by macadam.mpce.mq.edu.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA17319; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 09:23:54 +1000 (EST) Received: (from ross@localhost) by hera.mpce.mq.edu.au (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id JAA05973; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 09:23:53 +1000 (EST) From: Ross Moore Message-Id: <200103242323.JAA05973@hera.mpce.mq.edu.au> Subject: Re: [pdftex] strange bug! In-Reply-To: <3ABD1776.3735AFB2@math.berkeley.edu> from Paulo Ney de Souza at "Mar 24, 2001 01:53:59 pm" To: desouza@math.berkeley.edu Cc: Aiko Huckauf , pdftex@tug.org, levy@msri.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL71 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 09:23:53 +1000 (EST) > I get the problem when running both on our machines here at Berkeley, as well > as the pre-installed software under RedHat 7.0. Does anyone know if the > installs > below are current ? > > solaris 2.7 -> pdflatex -v > pdfTeX (Web2C 7.3.1) 3.14159-0.14e-pretest-20000210 > kpathsea version 3.3.1 > Copyright (C) 1999 Han The Thanh, Petr Sojka, and Jiri Zlatuska. I can confirm the stated bad behaviour, using: landau.mpce.mq.edu.au> pdflatex pdftest.tex This is pdfTeX, Version 3.14159-14f-released-20000525 (Web2C 7.3.1) With the first image block uncommented, the messages are: loading : Context Support Macros / PDF ) [1{/usr/u showing the 2 uses of the same image. But with the comments in place, so that only one use is expected: loading : Context Support Macros / PDF ) [1{/usr/users/staff/ross/texdev/LWC/BOOK/texmf/pdftex/config/st Note that the initial image-loading message is not given. So the may be trying to use an image that was never loaded. Here is the source, repeated for convenience: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- \documentclass{report} \usepackage[pdftex]{graphicx} \begin{document} This is a figure: %\begin{figure}[h] %\includegraphics{foo} %\end{figure} \begin{figure}[h] \includegraphics[bb= 100 300 200 500]{foo} \end{figure} \end{document} ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Regards, Ross Moore _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 24-Mar-2001 23:26:39-GMT,2869;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA09165 for ; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 16:26:38 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id AF7FB2AEED; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 00:27:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from uakron.edu (uakron.edu [130.101.5.4]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2ONQkm02676 for ; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 00:26:46 +0100 Received: from default (atlantic21-162.infoserv.uakron.edu [130.101.6.162]) by uakron.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f2ONQGC16504 for ; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 18:26:16 -0500 (EST) From: "Donald Story" Organization: The University of Akron To: pdftex MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: [pdftex] pdfTeX in the big business now Reply-To: dpstory@uakron.edu Message-ID: <3ABCE632.27597.87F3C9@localhost> Priority: normal References: <39F2EAD6.6E2F6C08@daltons.net> (Barney Dalton's message of "Sun, 22 Oct 2000 14:25:42 +0100") In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 18:23:46 -0500 Great news. Congratulations to Thanh. I"m waiting for my personalized train schedule, Munchen to Uffing a Staffelsee, now. dps On 24 Mar 2001, at 14:46, Colin Marquardt wrote: > Hi, > > in case this is news: Germany's "Deutsche Bahn" has a test server > running pdfTeX that generates customized time tables for their > railroad service: > http://print2web.hafas.de/bin/help.exe/en?tpl=index > (German: http://print2web.hafas.de) > Dr. D. P. Story / dpstory@uakron.edu / (330) 972-7514 http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/ Dept of Mathematics and Computer Science / University of Akron / Akron, Ohio 44325 AcroTeX Web Site: http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/acrotex.html Site Includes: e-Calculus, Algebra Review in Ten Lessons, Mathematics Games, Pdfmarks:Links & Forms, Using LaTeX to Create Quality PDF Documents for the WWW, Web.sty and Exerquiz.sty Packages for LaTeX, and much, much more. _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 24-Mar-2001 23:34:43-GMT,3220;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA09306 for ; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 16:34:42 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 620292B449; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 00:35:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from macadam.mpce.mq.edu.au (macadam.mpce.mq.edu.au [137.111.216.12]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2ONYlm02715 for ; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 00:34:48 +0100 Received: from hera.mpce.mq.edu.au (hera.mpce.mq.edu.au [137.111.219.13]) by macadam.mpce.mq.edu.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA17383; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 09:34:31 +1000 (EST) Received: (from ross@localhost) by hera.mpce.mq.edu.au (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id JAA06116; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 09:34:29 +1000 (EST) From: Ross Moore Message-Id: <200103242334.JAA06116@hera.mpce.mq.edu.au> Subject: Re: [pdftex] pdfTeX in the big business now In-Reply-To: <3ABCE632.27597.87F3C9@localhost> from Donald Story at "Mar 24, 2001 06:23:46 pm" To: dpstory@uakron.edu Cc: pdftex X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL71 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 09:34:29 +1000 (EST) > Great news. Congratulations to Thanh. I"m waiting for > my personalized train schedule, Munchen to Uffing a Staffelsee, > now. It's also doing: Flugnafen Tor 3, Frankfurt am Main --> Erlangen and return, for me. What a fantastic application for pdfTeX. Cheers, Ross > > dps > > > On 24 Mar 2001, at 14:46, Colin Marquardt wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > in case this is news: Germany's "Deutsche Bahn" has a test server > > running pdfTeX that generates customized time tables for their > > railroad service: > > http://print2web.hafas.de/bin/help.exe/en?tpl=index > > (German: http://print2web.hafas.de) > > > > > Dr. D. P. Story / dpstory@uakron.edu / (330) 972-7514 > http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/ Dept of Mathematics > and Computer Science / University of Akron / Akron, Ohio 44325 > AcroTeX Web Site: http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/acrotex.html > Site Includes: e-Calculus, Algebra Review in Ten Lessons, > Mathematics Games, Pdfmarks:Links & Forms, > Using LaTeX to Create Quality PDF Documents for the WWW, > Web.sty and Exerquiz.sty Packages for LaTeX, > and much, much more. > _______________________________________________ > pdftex mailing list > pdftex@tug.org > http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 25-Mar-2001 3:11:39-GMT,2530;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA13462 for ; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 20:11:38 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 9CC442AE99; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 05:12:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from lorica.ucc.usyd.edu.au (lorica.ucc.usyd.edu.au [129.78.64.15]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2P3A2m08647 for ; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 05:10:03 +0200 Received: from mail.usyd.edu.au (p2488.net10.usyd.edu.au [10.0.9.184]) by lorica.ucc.usyd.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA08653 for ; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 13:07:32 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <3ABD6275.B6849650@mail.usyd.edu.au> From: Robert Howlett X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex Subject: Re: [pdftex] pdfTeX in the big business now References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 13:13:57 +1000 I wonder if we should tell them to upgrade from pdftex 0.13d ... Colin Marquardt wrote: > > Hi, > > in case this is news: Germany's "Deutsche Bahn" has a test server > running pdfTeX that generates customized time tables for their > railroad service: > http://print2web.hafas.de/bin/help.exe/en?tpl=index > (German: http://print2web.hafas.de) > > Do people know of other exposures of pdfTeX to the broad public like > that? I know some of Hans Hagen's projects, but these seem more > specialized than print2web. > > Cheers, > Colin > > -- > YYURYYUBICURYY4ME. > _______________________________________________ > pdftex mailing list > pdftex@tug.org > http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 25-Mar-2001 6:33:40-GMT,2483;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA17139 for ; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 23:33:38 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 2D0862AE99; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 08:34:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mlucom6.urz.uni-halle.de (mlucom6.urz.Uni-Halle.DE [141.48.10.117]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2P6X4m09310 for ; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 08:33:04 +0200 Received: from [141.48.91.197] (zebul.theologie.Uni-Halle.DE [141.48.91.197]) by mlucom6.urz.uni-halle.de (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA12949 for ; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 08:32:36 +0200 (METDST) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: taqfk@mlucom6.urz.uni-halle.de Message-Id: To: pdftex From: Thomas Neumann Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Subject: [pdftex] Re: pdfTeX in the big business now Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 08:32:36 +0200 Colin Marquardt wrote: > Do people know of other exposures of pdfTeX to the broad public like > that? I know some of Hans Hagen's projects, but these seem more > specialized than print2web. We have made a not so very big business application. Have a look to our database driven semester catalogues in HTML as well as in PDF format (in German only): Greetings, Thomas -- Thomas Neumann Martin-Luther-Universitaet Halle-Wittenberg Tel/Fax: +49-(0)345-55-23062/-27239 Institut fuer Bibelwissenschaften http://anu.theologie.uni-halle.de Franckeplatz 1/Haus 25 mailto:neumann@theologie.uni-halle.de D-06099 Halle (Saale) _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 25-Mar-2001 11:35:40-GMT,2248;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA22624 for ; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 04:35:39 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 45D652B4B7; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 13:36:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f2PBZBm10480 for ; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 13:35:11 +0200 Received: from remote142-20.home.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.142.20] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 14h8nA-0005Pi-00; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 13:34:41 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.20010325111555.40bf4e46@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) To: Paulo Ney de Souza , pdftex@tug.org From: Heiko Oberdiek Subject: Re: [pdftex] strange bug! In-Reply-To: <200103242030.MAA03253@math.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 11:15:55 +0100 At 12:30 24.03.2001 -0800, Paulo Ney de Souza wrote: > >\includegraphics[bb= 100 300 200 500]{foo} bb is _not_ supported with pdftex.def, because it does not make any sense (the MediaBox _is_ available in pdfTeX). With an uptodate pdftex.def: http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/pdftex.def you have the options viewport and trim (see grfguide for use). Yours sincerely Heiko _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 25-Mar-2001 17:29:41-GMT,3097;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA29230 for ; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 10:29:40 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 529A32BAA8; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 19:30:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from math.berkeley.edu (gold.Math.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.58.61]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2PHTnm12135 for ; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 19:29:49 +0200 Received: from blue1.math.Berkeley.EDU (blue1.Math.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.58.58]) by math.berkeley.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA11383; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 09:29:21 -0800 (PST) From: Paulo Ney de Souza Received: (from desouza@localhost) by blue1.math.Berkeley.EDU (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA07227; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 09:29:21 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200103251729.JAA07227@blue1.math.Berkeley.EDU> To: desouza@math.berkeley.edu, oberdiek@ruf.uni-freiburg.de, pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] strange bug! Cc: levy@msri.org Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 09:29:21 -0800 (PST) Heiko, a couple of three questions come to order then ... 1- How come, if "bb" is not supported inside pdftex, if I take the comments out, BOTH pictures show up, including the one with the "bb" command option. 2- How does one use the _MediaBox_ inside pdfTeX ? I don't see ANY mention of the word Media in the "graphicx" documentation ... 3- This have the potential to make files highly non-portable in between latex and pdflatex. Aren't the MediaBox and the BoundingBox the same thing, or at least, equivalent, for this purpose ? Thanks, Paulo Ney de Souza >From oberdiek@ruf.uni-freiburg.de Sun Mar 25 03:34:43 2001 >To: Paulo Ney de Souza , pdftex@tug.org >From: Heiko Oberdiek >Subject: Re: [pdftex] strange bug! > >At 12:30 24.03.2001 -0800, Paulo Ney de Souza wrote: >> >>\includegraphics[bb= 100 300 200 500]{foo} > >bb is _not_ supported with pdftex.def, because it does >not make any sense (the MediaBox _is_ available in >pdfTeX). >With an uptodate pdftex.def: > http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/pdftex.def >you have the options viewport and trim (see grfguide >for use). > >Yours sincerely > Heiko _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 25-Mar-2001 18:11:40-GMT,2837;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA00058 for ; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 11:11:39 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 22B2D2BADD; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 20:12:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f2PIBum12354 for ; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 20:11:56 +0200 Received: from remote142-121.home.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.142.121] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 14hEz7-0000iI-00; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 20:11:26 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.20010325195539.29c73938@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) To: Paulo Ney de Souza , pdftex@tug.org From: Heiko Oberdiek Subject: Re: [pdftex] strange bug! Cc: levy@msri.org In-Reply-To: <200103251729.JAA07227@blue1.math.Berkeley.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 19:55:39 +0100 At 09:29 25.03.2001 -0800, Paulo Ney de Souza wrote: > >1- How come, if "bb" is not supported inside pdftex, if I take the > comments out, BOTH pictures show up, including the one with the > "bb" command option. Which version of pdftex.def do you use? With a current one you should get a warning and bb will act like viewport. >2- How does one use the _MediaBox_ inside pdfTeX ? I don't see ANY > mention of the word Media in the "graphicx" documentation ... _inside_ pdfTeX, you have to look at source code level of pdfTeX. There is no direct access to the MediaBox at TeX code level. >3- This have the potential to make files highly non-portable in > between latex and pdflatex. Aren't the MediaBox and the BoundingBox > the same thing, or at least, equivalent, for this purpose ? Documentation about MediaBox and BoundingBox can be found in the language reference manuals (www.adobe.com). Yours sincerely Heiko _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 26-Mar-2001 3:19:39-GMT,2567;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA10832 for ; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 20:19:38 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id DD9D12BD7B; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 05:20:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from math.berkeley.edu (gold.Math.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.58.61]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2Q3JIm15051 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 05:19:18 +0200 Received: from blue1.math.Berkeley.EDU (blue1.Math.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.58.58]) by math.berkeley.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA00587; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 19:18:49 -0800 (PST) From: Paulo Ney de Souza Received: (from desouza@localhost) by blue1.math.Berkeley.EDU (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA13062; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 19:18:49 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200103260318.TAA13062@blue1.math.Berkeley.EDU> To: desouza@math.berkeley.edu, oberdiek@ruf.uni-freiburg.de, pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] strange bug! Cc: levy@msri.org Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 19:18:49 -0800 (PST) >From oberdiek@ruf.uni-freiburg.de Sun Mar 25 10:11:29 2001 >To: Paulo Ney de Souza , pdftex@tug.org >From: Heiko Oberdiek >Subject: Re: [pdftex] strange bug! >Cc: levy@msri.org > >At 09:29 25.03.2001 -0800, Paulo Ney de Souza wrote: >> >>1- How come, if "bb" is not supported inside pdftex, if I take the >> comments out, BOTH pictures show up, including the one with the >> "bb" command option. > >Which version of pdftex.def do you use? >With a current one you should get a warning and bb will >act like viewport. I was using v0.02r that comes with RedHat 7, I have now upgraded to v0.03f and it is working fine, thanks for the pointer. Paulo Ney _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 26-Mar-2001 9:22:39-GMT,2882;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA18206 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 02:22:38 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id F1D5C2BF32; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 11:23:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.bremen.pop.de (mars.hamburg.pop.de [195.222.210.104]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2Q9Mvm16905 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 11:22:57 +0200 Received: from uucp by mail.bremen.pop.de with local-rmail (Exim 2.02 #2) id 14hTId-0003LD-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 11:28:31 +0200 Received: (from uartcom@localhost) by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id LAA07507 for tug.org!pdftex; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 11:20:05 +0200 (MEST) >Received: by artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de (Smail3.2 #1) id m14hTAA-004wwRC; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 11:19:46 +0200 (MEST) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= To: pdftex Subject: Re: [pdftex] pdfTeX in the big business now Message-ID: <20010326111946.P29958@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mail-Followup-To: pdftex References: <39F2EAD6.6E2F6C08@daltons.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from colin@marquardt-home.de on Sat, Mar 24, 2001 at 02:46:50PM -0800 Organization: ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Strasse 8, D-28359 Bremen X-Disclaimer: The views expressed are my own and not necessarily that of my employers. Received: from artcom8 by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 11:20 MES Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 11:19:46 +0200 On 2001-03-24 14:46:50 -0800, Colin Marquardt wrote: > Do people know of other exposures of pdfTeX to the broad public like > that? I know some of Hans Hagen's projects, but these seem more > specialized than print2web. The next IKEA-catalogue will probably be printed using pdfTeX. Enough public? :-) Best regards Martin > -- > YYURYYUBICURYY4ME. Pardon? :-) -- http://www.tm.oneiros.de/calendar/2001/ _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 26-Mar-2001 10:04:39-GMT,3182;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA18961 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 03:04:38 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id DD9D02BF6F; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 12:05:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from post.webmailer.de (natmail2.webmailer.de [192.67.198.65]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2QA4Xm17189 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 12:04:37 +0200 Received: from morphin.marquardt-home.de (d217.nas21.sonic.net [209.204.136.217]) by post.webmailer.de (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA21627 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 12:04:02 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from colin by morphin.marquardt-home.de with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 14hTr2-0004Kx-00 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 02:04:04 -0800 X-Draft-From: ("nnml+private:mail:pdfTeX-List" 3097) To: pdftex Subject: Re: [pdftex] pdfTeX in the big business now References: <39F2EAD6.6E2F6C08@daltons.net> <20010326111946.P29958@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> In-Reply-To: <20010326111946.P29958@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> (Martin =?iso-8859-1?q?Schr=F6der's?= message of "Mon, 26 Mar 2001 11:19:46 +0200") From: Colin Marquardt X-GnuPG-Key: gpg --keyserver pgp.ai.mit.edu --recv-keys F53AF5C4 X-Home-Page: http://www.marquardt-home.de X-Fingerprint: F374 9BE1 87BE 8166 6D31 08BE 04CB CC2A F53A F5C4 X-Jabber-UID: cmarqu (see http://www.jabber.org) X-Now-Playing: Cradle of Filth's Midian - Her Ghost in the Fog User-Agent: Gnus/5.090001 (Oort Gnus v0.01) XEmacs/21.1 (Capitol Reef) (UNREGISTERED) Organization: I'd rather call it chaos. Message-ID: Lines: 21 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: 26 Mar 2001 02:04:03 -0800 Martin Schröder writes: > On 2001-03-24 14:46:50 -0800, Colin Marquardt wrote: > > Do people know of other exposures of pdfTeX to the broad public like > > that? I know some of Hans Hagen's projects, but these seem more > > specialized than print2web. > > The next IKEA-catalogue will probably be printed using pdfTeX. > Enough public? :-) Ah, cool. Is ArtCom doing it? Hmm, you probably can't tell people about it... > > YYURYYUBICURYY4ME. > > Pardon? :-) Read it in a bar: "2 Y's U R..." :-) Cheers, Colin _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 26-Mar-2001 10:30:39-GMT,3371;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA19457 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 03:30:38 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 8D67C2BF94; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 12:31:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.bremen.pop.de (mars.hamburg.pop.de [195.222.210.104]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2QAUsm17358 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 12:30:55 +0200 Received: from uucp by mail.bremen.pop.de with local-rmail (Exim 2.02 #2) id 14hUMX-00045C-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 12:36:37 +0200 Received: (from uartcom@localhost) by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id MAA08130 for tug.org!pdftex; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 12:28:05 +0200 (MEST) >Received: by artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de (Smail3.2 #1) id m14hUDt-004wwRC; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 12:27:41 +0200 (MEST) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= To: pdftex Subject: Re: [pdftex] pdfTeX in the big business now Message-ID: <20010326122741.R29958@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mail-Followup-To: pdftex References: <39F2EAD6.6E2F6C08@daltons.net> <20010326111946.P29958@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from colin@marquardt-home.de on Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 02:04:03AM -0800 Organization: ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Strasse 8, D-28359 Bremen X-Disclaimer: The views expressed are my own and not necessarily that of my employers. Received: from artcom8 by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 12:28 MES Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 12:27:41 +0200 On 2001-03-26 02:04:03 -0800, Colin Marquardt wrote: > Martin Schröder writes: > > On 2001-03-24 14:46:50 -0800, Colin Marquardt wrote: > > > Do people know of other exposures of pdfTeX to the broad public like > > > that? I know some of Hans Hagen's projects, but these seem more > > > specialized than print2web. > > > > The next IKEA-catalogue will probably be printed using pdfTeX. > > Enough public? :-) > > Ah, cool. Is ArtCom doing it? Hmm, you probably can't tell people > about it... In a way -- pdfTeX will be the heart of our new imposition software, which will most likely be used for e.g. the next IKEA catalogue. Hmm -- anybody got a larger print run with TeX? :-) Best regards Martin -- http://www.tm.oneiros.de/calendar/2001/ _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 26-Mar-2001 10:47:39-GMT,2671;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA19785 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 03:47:38 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id B91BB2B460; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 12:48:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ecnwall.ecn.nl (ecnwall.ecn.nl [130.112.1.86]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2QAl6m17479 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 12:47:07 +0200 Received: from ecntex.ecn.nl (ecntex.ecn.nl [130.112.1.26]) by ecnwall.ecn.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87693208 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 12:46:32 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by ecntex.ecn.nl with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 12:46:32 +0200 Message-ID: <92D6AAE888CED411A16A00508BB0B827A23FD7@ecntex.ecn.nl> From: "Dok, D. van" To: "PDFTeX Mailing List (E-mail)" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Subject: [pdftex] building pdftex...pdftex.map Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 12:46:31 +0200 Hi, I've just built pdftex myself for the first time! Whoohoo! I've been reluctant to do _anything_ outside the pre-build pre-packaged system I run (vanilla Debian GNU/Linux, teTeX 1.0) but the outdated pdftex shipped with it just wasn't up to it anymore. My question: apparently the syntax for pdftex.map changed somewhere along the way from 13d to 14f. At least I got errors such as: Warning: pdflatex (file /usr/share/texmf/dvips/config/pdftex.map): invalid entry for `hlcbot8rn': too big value of ExtendFont (850) but it went away after I said :%s/\"850/\"\.850/ (sorry non-vi speakers). In english: ExtendFont now seems to require a fraction instead of multiples of 1/1000. Is there a `proper' way of getting a pdftex.map for my system? thanks already, Dennis van Dok (Who would like to get his hands at ikea.cls or ikea.sty) _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 26-Mar-2001 11:22:40-GMT,6156;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA20426 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 04:22:38 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 5B9D62B4DF; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 13:23:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from exchserver.orsnet.it ([213.145.5.245]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2QBM8m17782 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 13:22:12 +0200 Received: by exchserver.orsnet.it with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 13:24:59 +0200 Message-ID: From: Samuele Cavarero To: "'pdftex@tug.org'" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.daimi.au.dk id f2QBM8m17782 Subject: [pdftex] RE: pdftex digest, Vol 1 #93 - 9 msgs Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 13:24:56 +0200 stooooooooooooooop sending mail!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > -----Original Message----- > From: pdftex-request@tug.org [mailto:pdftex-request@tug.org] > Sent: lunedì 26 marzo 2001 11.06 > To: pdftex@tug.org > Subject: pdftex digest, Vol 1 #93 - 9 msgs > > > Send pdftex mailing list submissions to > pdftex@tug.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > pdftex-request@tug.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > pdftex-admin@tug.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of pdftex digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. strange bug! (Paulo Ney de Souza) > 2. Re: strange bug! (Aiko Huckauf) > 3. Re: strange bug! (Paulo Ney de Souza) > 4. pdfTeX in the big business now (Colin Marquardt) > 5. Re: strange bug! (Ross Moore) > 6. Re: pdfTeX in the big business now (Donald Story) > 7. Re: pdfTeX in the big business now (Ross Moore) > 8. Re: pdfTeX in the big business now (Robert Howlett) > 9. Re: pdfTeX in the big business now (Thomas Neumann) > > --__--__-- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 12:30:51 -0800 (PST) > From: Paulo Ney de Souza > To: pdftex@tug.org > Subject: [pdftex] strange bug! > > > In the process of porting a package to pdflatex we found the > following > strange behaviour in "pdflatex" and hopefully someone here can account > for what is going on. > > The file below, when processed with pdflatex and the 3 > comments does NOT > produce the second (uncommented) picture. If the 3 comments > are taken > OUT then it produces both pictures! The (strange) behaviour > does not show > when one use stardard "latex"... so I am assuming it is a > problem with > "pdflatex". Does anyone knows what is going on ? > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > \documentclass{report} > \usepackage[pdftex]{graphicx} > \begin{document} > This is a figure: > > %\begin{figure}[h] > %\includegraphics{foo} > %\end{figure} > > \begin{figure}[h] > \includegraphics[bb= 100 300 200 500]{foo} > \end{figure} > > \end{document} > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > The problem seems to be independent of the graphics files foo.{ps,pdf} > but just in case anyone needs it, you can get it at > > http://www.math.berkeley.edu/~desouza/badpdf/ > > Paulo Ney > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 21:48:26 +0100 > From: Aiko Huckauf > Reply-To: Aiko Huckauf > To: pdftex@tug.org > Subject: Re: [pdftex] strange bug! > > Saturday, March 24, 2001, 9:30:51 PM, Paulo Ney de Souza wrote: > > > The file below, when processed with pdflatex and the 3 > comments does NOT > > produce the second (uncommented) picture. If the 3 comments > are taken > > OUT then it produces both pictures! The (strange) behaviour > does not show > > when one use stardard "latex"... so I am assuming it is a > problem with > > "pdflatex". Does anyone knows what is going on ? > > I have tested the document, both with one of my own pdf-graphics and > the foo.pdf from you. I can't reproduce the problem - in my case > everything worked fine, i. e. as expected: I get one graphic if I let > the first picture commented and two graphics when I remove the > comments. > Are you sure your pdfTeX is set up correctly? Does it work with other > .tex files? Which OS and which editor do you use? Maybe the problem is > due to this. If not, I have no idea... > > Greetings from Kiel > > Aiko Huckauf > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 13:53:59 -0800 > From: Paulo Ney de Souza > Reply-To: desouza@math.berkeley.edu > To: Aiko Huckauf > CC: pdftex@tug.org, levy@msri.org > Subject: Re: [pdftex] strange bug! > > I get the problem when running both on our machines here at > Berkeley, as well > as the pre-installed software under RedHat 7.0. Does anyone > know if the > installs > below are current ? > > solaris 2.7 -> pdflatex -v > pdfTeX (Web2C 7.3.1) 3.14159-0.14e-pretest-20000210 > kpathsea version 3.3.1 > Copyright (C) 1999 Han The Thanh, Petr Sojka, and Jiri Zlatuska. > _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 26-Mar-2001 11:41:42-GMT,4885;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA20790 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 04:41:41 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id ACDD92B5C8; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 13:42:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp8.xs4all.nl (smtp8.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.134]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2QBfgm18096 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 13:41:42 +0200 Received: from server-1.pragma-ade.nl (s340-modem3718.dial.xs4all.nl [194.109.174.134]) by smtp8.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA03077; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 13:41:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: from laptop-1 (laptop-1.pragma-ade.nl [200.1.1.25]) by server-1.pragma-ade.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA01858; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 13:29:11 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20010326132729.01989ab0@server-1> X-Sender: hagen@server-1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) To: Martin =?iso-8859-1?Q?Schr=F6der?= From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: [pdftex] pdfTeX in the big business now Cc: pdftex In-Reply-To: <20010326122741.R29958@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> References: <39F2EAD6.6E2F6C08@daltons.net> <20010326111946.P29958@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.daimi.au.dk id f2QBfgm18096 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 13:27:29 +0200 At 12:27 PM 3/26/01 +0200, Martin Schröder wrote: >On 2001-03-26 02:04:03 -0800, Colin Marquardt wrote: >> Martin Schröder writes: >> > On 2001-03-24 14:46:50 -0800, Colin Marquardt wrote: >> > > Do people know of other exposures of pdfTeX to the broad public like >> > > that? I know some of Hans Hagen's projects, but these seem more >> > > specialized than print2web. >> > >> > The next IKEA-catalogue will probably be printed using pdfTeX. >> > Enough public? :-) >> >> Ah, cool. Is ArtCom doing it? Hmm, you probably can't tell people >> about it... > >In a way -- pdfTeX will be the heart of our new imposition >software, which will most likely be used for e.g. the next IKEA ah, but if they would typeset the catalogue with tex, they could do the imposition directly, which woul dsave them quite some font resources and filesize. >catalogue. Hmm -- anybody got a larger print run with TeX? :-) Are you looking for bytes or complexity? Pasting pages is mainly file copying, also for pdftex -) For some yeare already pdftex feels quite happy when processing multimeg docs with thousands of pages and 5-6 digit numbers of hyperthings and objects and graphics and ... Currently our challenge is not in processing such docs but in keeping up speed with dtp applications ["we are doing this in quark now (i.e. multiple layouts per doc, many layers of info, fancy backgrounds after running texts, floats everywhere), but wanna do it in xml, so can you do it with tex (so that the formulas are handled ok", so far we manage -)] So, our next steps are not in making bigger docs, but making a couple of quark (and alike) killing batched dtp modules -) Concerning the time tables: as far as i know that kind of apps are done by tex all over the world ever since tex was available. Of course companies seldom say this aloud because they don't want the competition to know. Unfortunately we never run into such projects, which is a pity because it's rather plain texing and therefore not that hard to implement. The main advantage of pdftex for that kind of apps is that one can omit the dvi-ps step. Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma@wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 26-Mar-2001 14:07:39-GMT,3415;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA23689 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 07:07:37 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id AFEDB71A6D; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 16:08:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from aleph.net.uniovi.es (aleph.net.uniovi.es [156.35.11.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2QE7dm19176 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 16:07:39 +0200 Received: from bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es (bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es [156.35.56.38]) by aleph.net.uniovi.es (PMDF V6.0-24 #45227) with ESMTP id <01K1NPSARSV60028O5@aleph.net.uniovi.es> for pdftex@tug.org; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 16:06:56 +0200 (MET) Received: from localhost (carmenes@localhost) by bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f2QE7sc10347 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 16:07:55 +0200 From: Ricardo Sanchez Carmenes X-Sender: carmenes@bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es To: pdftex@tug.org Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: [pdftex] Announcing pdfcrypt version of pdftex Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 16:07:54 +0200 (CEST) This is to announce the release a special version of pdftex and pdfetex 0.14h-20010310 enhanced with encryting capability (25/03/2001): Precompiled linux binaries are available by anonymous ftp here: for testing for some days. The usual diclaimer apply. Sources should be available as a patch relative to the regular version when I finish testing and I solve problems. This version has the ability to produce encrypted pdf files with the owner/user password protection scheme described in the adobe PDFref manual. To control this feature, I have added a new primitive named "\pdfcrypt". If \pdfcrypt is found in the TeX source, the file is encrypted, otherwise an unencrypted pdf file is generated as with regular pdftex versions. This pdfcrypt version has been tested successfully in linux to generate pdf files with links, outlines, png graphics, type1 fonts and ttf fonts. I have not tested other types of graphics, forms or notes. I would be pleased if others generating more complex files than me could perform some tests and report their success or their failures. The resulting files are read successfully (in the linux box too) by the Acrobat reader 4.05, by xpdf 0.92 and by ghostscript 6.62 + pdf_sec.ps. More details in the file pdfcrypt.readme enclosed with the binaries. Ricardo S. Carmenes carmenes@bioquimica.uniovi.es _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 26-Mar-2001 14:09:11-GMT,3188;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA23738 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 07:09:10 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id E33102AE82; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 13:58:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.bremen.pop.de (mars.hamburg.pop.de [195.222.210.104]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2QBvrm18225 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 13:57:53 +0200 Received: from uucp by mail.bremen.pop.de with local-rmail (Exim 2.02 #2) id 14hVii-00058S-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 14:03:36 +0200 Received: (from uartcom@localhost) by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id NAA09802 for tug.org!pdftex; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 13:57:07 +0200 (MEST) >Received: by artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de (Smail3.2 #1) id m14hVc2-004wwRC; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 13:56:42 +0200 (MEST) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= To: pdftex Subject: Re: [pdftex] pdfTeX in the big business now Message-ID: <20010326135642.W29958@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mail-Followup-To: pdftex References: <39F2EAD6.6E2F6C08@daltons.net> <20010326111946.P29958@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <20010326122741.R29958@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <3.0.6.32.20010326132729.01989ab0@server-1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20010326132729.01989ab0@server-1>; from pragma@wxs.nl on Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 01:27:29PM +0200 Organization: ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Strasse 8, D-28359 Bremen X-Disclaimer: The views expressed are my own and not necessarily that of my employers. Received: from artcom8 by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 13:57 MES Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 13:56:42 +0200 On 2001-03-26 13:27:29 +0200, Hans Hagen wrote: > At 12:27 PM 3/26/01 +0200, Martin Schröder wrote: > >catalogue. Hmm -- anybody got a larger print run with TeX? :-) > > Are you looking for bytes or complexity? Pasting pages is mainly file > copying, also for pdftex -) Number of printed copies. The IKEA-catalogue is distributed to nearly every household in Germany (and Europe, I presume). Best regards Martin -- http://www.tm.oneiros.de/calendar/2001/ _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 26-Mar-2001 14:29:02-GMT,2295;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA24209 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 07:29:01 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 0DAB12AE8C; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 16:29:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp018.mail.yahoo.com (smtp018.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.115]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f2QES0m19432 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 16:28:00 +0200 Received: from pc19f181d.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO rotor) (193.159.24.29) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Mar 2001 14:27:31 -0000 X-Apparently-From: From: Steffen Macke X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" To: pdftex@tug.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01032615373600.27130@rotor> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: [pdftex] bad raster images Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 15:37:36 +0200 Dear pdflatex users, I'm having a problem including raster images (photos) in PDF documents. The converted images (epstopdf) look fine, but after including it in the document, it's completely scrambled (looks like ramdom bytes). You can find a short example under: http://www.fbbwu.fh-lueneburg.de/~macke/bad-pdf-graphics.tar.gz (I'm using LyX in the first place, with ps2pdf everything works fine). Please CC me as I'm not subscribed to the list. Thank You Steffen _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 26-Mar-2001 14:41:52-GMT,3466;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA24491 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 07:41:51 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 1B54F2AE82; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 16:42:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp9.xs4all.nl (smtp9.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.135]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2QEfVm19553 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 16:41:31 +0200 Received: from server-1.pragma-ade.nl (s340-isdn1907.dial.xs4all.nl [194.109.187.115]) by smtp9.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA03480; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 16:40:59 +0200 (CEST) Received: from laptop-1 (laptop-1.pragma-ade.nl [200.1.1.25]) by server-1.pragma-ade.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA02769; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 16:38:53 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20010326163851.013aba10@server-1> X-Sender: hagen@server-1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) To: Martin =?iso-8859-1?Q?Schr=F6der?= From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: [pdftex] pdfTeX in the big business now Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: <20010326135642.W29958@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> References: <3.0.6.32.20010326132729.01989ab0@server-1> <39F2EAD6.6E2F6C08@daltons.net> <20010326111946.P29958@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <20010326122741.R29958@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <3.0.6.32.20010326132729.01989ab0@server-1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.daimi.au.dk id f2QEfVm19553 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 16:38:51 +0200 At 01:56 PM 3/26/01 +0200, you wrote: >On 2001-03-26 13:27:29 +0200, Hans Hagen wrote: >> At 12:27 PM 3/26/01 +0200, Martin Schröder wrote: >> >catalogue. Hmm -- anybody got a larger print run with TeX? :-) >> >> Are you looking for bytes or complexity? Pasting pages is mainly file >> copying, also for pdftex -) > >Number of printed copies. The IKEA-catalogue is distributed to >nearly every household in Germany (and Europe, I presume). Ah, that's a lot of wasted trees. If thanh would get 1 pfennig per issue, then he could even afford himself to buy a couple of those ikea items. Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma@wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 26-Mar-2001 16:37:39-GMT,2990;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA26856 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 09:37:37 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 133D12AE82; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 18:38:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de (zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.53]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2QGbom20231 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 18:37:50 +0200 Received: from zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de.kammer.uni-hannover.de (reinhard@zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.54]) by zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA17345; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 18:35:49 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de: Host reinhard@zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.54] claimed to be zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de.kammer.uni-hannover.de From: Reinhard Kotucha MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15039.28735.20480.825455@zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de> To: Steffen Macke Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: [pdftex] bad raster images In-Reply-To: <01032615373600.27130@rotor> References: <01032615373600.27130@rotor> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under Emacs 20.7.2 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 18:37:19 +0200 >>>>> "Steffen" == Steffen Macke writes: > Dear pdflatex users, I'm having a problem including raster > images (photos) in PDF documents. The converted images > (epstopdf) look fine, but after including it in the document, > it's completely scrambled (looks like ramdom bytes). No problem here. Upgrade your pdftex. You are using version 0.13, aren't you? Regards, Reinhard -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Reinhard Kotucha Phone: +49-511-751355 Berggartenstr. 9 D-30419 Hannover mailto:reinhard@kammer.uni-hannover.de ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Microsoft isn't the answer. Microsoft is the question, and the answer is NO. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 26-Mar-2001 19:37:39-GMT,3579;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA01046 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 12:37:38 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 51BAB2AE8F; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 21:38:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtpsrv1.isis.unc.edu (smtpsrv1.isis.unc.edu [152.2.1.138]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2QJbSm21157 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 21:37:29 +0200 Received: from bock.chem.unc.edu.unc.edu (bock.chem.unc.edu [152.2.48.182]) by smtpsrv1.isis.unc.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA29288 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 14:36:58 -0500 (EST) To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] pdfTeX in the big business now References: <3.0.6.32.20010326132729.01989ab0@server-1> <39F2EAD6.6E2F6C08@daltons.net> <20010326111946.P29958@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <20010326122741.R29958@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <3.0.6.32.20010326132729.01989ab0@server-1> <3.0.6.32.20010326163851.013aba10@server-1> User-Agent: XEmacs/Gnus X-Attribution: yogi X-Face: -%Z4EZ6iY'4m:wiK:!v From: "Jochen =?iso-8859-1?q?K=FCpper?=" Organization: University of North Carolina Message-ID: <8666gwcof8.fsf@bock.chem.unc.edu> Lines: 29 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: 26 Mar 2001 14:36:59 -0500 >>>>> Hans Hagen wrote on Mon, 26 Mar 2001 16:38:51 +0200: >>> At 12:27 PM 3/26/01 +0200, Martin Schröder wrote: Hans> Are you looking for bytes or complexity? Pasting pages is mainly Hans> file copying, also for pdftex -) >> Number of printed copies. The IKEA-catalogue is distributed to >> nearly every household in Germany (and Europe, I presume). Well, actually even to North-Eastern US (at least I have seen Ikea in Newark, Pittsburgh and there shall be one in DC:) I have never seen a catalog over here, though. Hans> Ah, that's a lot of wasted trees. If thanh would get 1 pfennig Hans> per issue, then he could even afford himself to buy a couple of Hans> those ikea items. Definitely. Even .1 would be nice. And I still hear this vision of a paperless office... although I like old-fashioned books:)) Greetings, Jochen -- University of North Carolina phone: 919-962-1579 Department of Chemistry fax: 919-843-6041 Venable Hall CB#3290 Chapel Hill, NC 26599, USA _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 27-Mar-2001 12:05:49-GMT,3177;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA10895 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 05:05:47 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 356892B44A; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 10:14:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from aleph.net.uniovi.es (aleph.net.uniovi.es [156.35.11.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2R8DLm24031 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 10:13:21 +0200 Received: from bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es (bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es [156.35.56.38]) by aleph.net.uniovi.es (PMDF V6.0-24 #45227) with ESMTP id <01K1ORPO7QPW003UXN@aleph.net.uniovi.es> for pdftex@tug.org; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 10:12:52 +0200 (MET) Received: from localhost (carmenes@localhost) by bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f2R8DpG21627 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 10:13:52 +0200 From: Ricardo Sanchez Carmenes X-Sender: carmenes@bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es To: pdftex@tug.org Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: [pdftex] pdftex-pdfcrypt update Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 10:13:51 +0200 (CEST) I have updated the pdfcrypt version of pdftex to fix a problem regarding outlines. Fixed linux binaries are available at When I announced the release of this pdftex version, I forgot to mention that the announcement is being made with the knowledge of the original author of pdftex (see enclosed mail). Ricardo S. Carmenes. Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 15:41:59 +0200 From: Han The Thanh To: Ricardo Sanchez Carmenes Hi Ricardo, > Some days ago I suggested that it would be nice to incorporate > encrypting to pdftex, and you replied that you have no time at > present, and that I could find a volunteer for this. I've found > this volunteer ... myself, and I would be pleased to contribute > this to the pdftex comunity. > > Yould you agree if I make this announcment public through the > pdftex mail-list ? this is certainly a great contribution to the pdftex community. Manythanks for the nice work, I am sure it will be welcome very much, as there were meny requests for this feature. Please feel free to announce it to the public. Best regards, Thanh _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 27-Mar-2001 12:22:28-GMT,2940;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA11072 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 05:22:27 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id DE4BB2AE8C; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 12:03:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from aleph.net.uniovi.es (aleph.net.uniovi.es [156.35.11.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2RA2Dm24695 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 12:02:13 +0200 Received: from bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es (bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es [156.35.56.38]) by aleph.net.uniovi.es (PMDF V6.0-24 #45227) with ESMTP id <01K1OVI7IASE003QYV@aleph.net.uniovi.es> for pdftex@tug.org; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 12:01:33 +0200 (MET) Received: from localhost (carmenes@localhost) by bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f2RA2Io23379; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 12:02:18 +0200 From: Ricardo Sanchez Carmenes Subject: Re: [pdftex] pdftex-pdfcrypt update In-reply-to: <3.0.6.32.20010327105325.017f1e50@server-1> X-Sender: carmenes@bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es To: Hans Hagen Cc: pdftex@tug.org Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 12:02:18 +0200 (CEST) On Tue, 27 Mar 2001, Hans Hagen wrote: > Will this move into the regular source code distribution, so that it will > be available at windows etc too? > > Hans My intention was (a) solve major bugs reported in the next days using linux binaries (b) clean up + document code (c) release code as a patch relative to the current regular sources (d) incorporate it to the regular sources if Han The Thanh agrees. I have not yet discussed with Han if he would like to incorporate the changes into the regular version, but as he has welcomed the enhancement, I may assume that he would, and I would be happy to see it there. I am not making use of OS-specific code (well, rand() and srand() are probably implementation-specific, but they do not realy matter), so it should compile in Windows and others. However, I only can compile under linux myself. Regards, Ricardo. _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 27-Mar-2001 12:22:28-GMT,3920;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA11070 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 05:22:26 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id ADDF52B464; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 13:18:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from aleph.net.uniovi.es (aleph.net.uniovi.es [156.35.11.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2RBHSm25158 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 13:17:28 +0200 Received: from bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es (bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es [156.35.56.38]) by aleph.net.uniovi.es (PMDF V6.0-24 #45227) with ESMTP id <01K1OY5PQ6GS003SJY@aleph.net.uniovi.es> for pdftex@tug.org; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 13:16:54 +0200 (MET) Received: from localhost (carmenes@localhost) by bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f2RBHie24732; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 13:17:44 +0200 From: Ricardo Sanchez Carmenes Subject: Re: [pdftex] pdftex-pdfcrypt update In-reply-to: <3.0.6.32.20010327123523.016f4af0@server-1> X-Sender: carmenes@bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es To: Hans Hagen Cc: pdftex@tug.org Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 13:17:44 +0200 (CEST) On Tue, 27 Mar 2001, Hans Hagen wrote: > >I have not yet discussed with Han if he would like to incorporate the > >changes into the regular version, but as he has welcomed the enhancement, > >I may assume that he would, and I would be happy to see it there. > > I may be wise to discuss the new primitives neede to set the options, > before it will move into the core of pdftex. Only one primitive is necessary. I have named it \pdfcrypt, but I could suggest \donquijote as a suitable alternative (the second most translated book after the bible :-). Han should have the last word on its name. Its usage is explained in the pdfcrypt.readme file, but in short, you set at the top of your TeX file something like \pdfcrypt{ owner "the owner pw" user "the user pw" noprint noedit } (see the readme file for the full list of options and their meaning). It allows to set conveniently all existing security variants with one single primitive. I don't think it would be useful to incorporate more primitives. > >I am not making use of OS-specific code (well, rand() and srand() are > >probably implementation-specific, but they do not realy matter), so > >it should compile in Windows and others. However, I only can compile > >under linux myself. > > I'm pretty sure that fabrice can cover the random functions -) He is welcome, although this is not a concern to me: I will explain. I'm using the "random" functions to generate a (pseudo-unique) file ID. The PDFref manual suggests (but not enforces) to generate a "unique" file ID based on the filename and creation date, but for the purpose, I believe that a (pseudo)ramdom string is enough, using a seed based on creation date. A more complicated algorythm would not add any security, as the real weakness (for those who worry) of the encryption system is elsewhere. Regards, Ricardo. _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 27-Mar-2001 12:22:28-GMT,2394;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA11071 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 05:22:27 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id DC35A2B454; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 12:03:03 +0200 (CEST) Received: from aleph.net.uniovi.es (aleph.net.uniovi.es [156.35.11.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2RA2vm24699 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 12:02:58 +0200 Received: from bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es (bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es [156.35.56.38]) by aleph.net.uniovi.es (PMDF V6.0-24 #45227) with ESMTP id <01K1OVJAS7C6003V44@aleph.net.uniovi.es> for pdftex@tug.org; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 12:02:21 +0200 (MET) Received: from localhost (carmenes@localhost) by bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f2RA3Bf23384; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 12:03:11 +0200 From: Ricardo Sanchez Carmenes Subject: Re: [pdftex] pdftex-pdfcrypt update In-reply-to: <20010327104255.Y29904@cs.ucc.ie> X-Sender: carmenes@bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es To: Marc van Dongen Cc: Hans Hagen , pdftex@tug.org Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 12:03:11 +0200 (CEST) On Tue, 27 Mar 2001, Marc van Dongen wrote: > Hans Hagen (pragma@wxs.nl) wrote: > > : Will this move into the regular source code distribution, so that it will > : be available at windows etc too? > > And on sparcs? > > > Regards, > > > Marc See the answer to Hans Hagen. Regards, Ricardo. _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 27-Mar-2001 12:28:39-GMT,3148;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA11125 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 05:28:38 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id D0CAD2AE8C; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 14:29:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp9.xs4all.nl (smtp9.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.135]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2RCS8m25504 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 14:28:08 +0200 Received: from server-1.pragma-ade.nl (s340-modem3162.dial.xs4all.nl [194.109.172.90]) by smtp9.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA12887; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 14:27:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: from laptop-1 (laptop-1.pragma-ade.nl [200.1.1.25]) by server-1.pragma-ade.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA07122; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 14:24:51 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20010327141643.0098d250@server-1> X-Sender: hagen@server-1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) To: Ricardo Sanchez Carmenes From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: [pdftex] pdftex-pdfcrypt update Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: References: <3.0.6.32.20010327123523.016f4af0@server-1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 14:16:43 +0200 At 01:17 PM 3/27/01 +0200, Ricardo Sanchez Carmenes wrote: > >Its usage is explained in the pdfcrypt.readme file, but in short, you set >at the top of your TeX file something like > >\pdfcrypt{ owner "the owner pw" user "the user pw" noprint noedit } > >(see the readme file for the full list of options and their meaning). I think that looking at the other pdftex primitives \pdfcrypt owner {...} user {...} noprint noedit would be better, or maybe the latter keywords should be replaced by access to the pdf dicts involved (i will look into that when i can test it). Things between { } are never interpreted and i can even imagine problems with catcode trickery. Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma@wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 27-Mar-2001 12:29:17-GMT,2916;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA11135 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 05:29:15 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id BD5EA2B452; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 14:29:03 +0200 (CEST) Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2RCSKm25508 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 14:28:20 +0200 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA23339; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 14:27:51 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA03279; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 14:27:51 +0200 (MET DST) From: Han The Thanh To: Ricardo Sanchez Carmenes Cc: Hans Hagen , pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] pdftex-pdfcrypt update Message-ID: <20010327142751.C26349@anxur.fi.muni.cz> References: <3.0.6.32.20010327105325.017f1e50@server-1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from carmenes@bioquimica.uniovi.es on Tue, Mar 27, 2001 at 12:02:18PM +0200 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 14:27:51 +0200 > My intention was > (a) solve major bugs reported in the next days using linux binaries > (b) clean up + document code > (c) release code as a patch relative to the current regular sources > (d) incorporate it to the regular sources if Han The Thanh agrees. > > I have not yet discussed with Han if he would like to incorporate the > changes into the regular version, but as he has welcomed the enhancement, > I may assume that he would, and I would be happy to see it there. I would be happy to incorporate the changes into pdftex sources. Or even better, can you please discuss it with Sebastian so you can submit the patch to the texlive p4 server (I do keep my sources in synchronization with this server). Best regards, Thanh _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 27-Mar-2001 13:27:38-GMT,3702;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA11323 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 06:27:37 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id A91872AE93; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 15:28:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from aleph.net.uniovi.es (aleph.net.uniovi.es [156.35.11.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2RDRcm25829 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 15:27:38 +0200 Received: from bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es (bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es [156.35.56.38]) by aleph.net.uniovi.es (PMDF V6.0-24 #45227) with ESMTP id <01K1P2OZY6A800342R@aleph.net.uniovi.es> for pdftex@tug.org; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 15:26:58 +0200 (MET) Received: from localhost (carmenes@localhost) by bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f2RDRnI26748; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 15:27:49 +0200 From: Ricardo Sanchez Carmenes Subject: Re: [pdftex] pdftex-pdfcrypt update In-reply-to: <3.0.6.32.20010327141643.0098d250@server-1> X-Sender: carmenes@bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es To: Hans Hagen Cc: pdftex@tug.org Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 15:27:49 +0200 (CEST) On Tue, 27 Mar 2001, Hans Hagen wrote: > At 01:17 PM 3/27/01 +0200, Ricardo Sanchez Carmenes wrote: > > > >Its usage is explained in the pdfcrypt.readme file, but in short, you set > >at the top of your TeX file something like > > > >\pdfcrypt{ owner "the owner pw" user "the user pw" noprint noedit } > > > >(see the readme file for the full list of options and their meaning). > > I think that looking at the other pdftex primitives > > \pdfcrypt > owner {...} > user {...} > noprint > noedit Maybe you are right. I'll study the case. However, pdftex has also some primitives with the form \pdfprimitive{ this and that } Could you or anybody else provide pros and cons for each syntax ? > would be better, or maybe the latter keywords should be replaced by access > to the pdf dicts involved (i will look into that when i can test it). No. The PDF encryption dictionary is not suitable for direct use. It has the form: << /Filter /Standard /V 1 /R 2 /O /U < user pw as a 32-byte key represented in hexadecimal> /P two-byte integer that controls permits with bits 1-2=0, 7-32=1, 3=print, 4=edit, 5=copy, 6=annotations >> /Filter /Standard /V 1 /R 2 are fixed, unless you use a custom-made encryption filter. The /O and /U 32-byte keys are calculated from the provided passwords and the "unique" file ID stored added to the trailer: /ID [<16-byte id1><1-6byte id2>], therefore unsuitable for direct human consum. > Things between { } are never interpreted and i can even imagine problems > with catcode trickery. Regards, Ricardo. _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 27-Mar-2001 13:35:40-GMT,2499;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA11413 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 06:35:39 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id A6FCF2B44B; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 15:36:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from aleph.net.uniovi.es (aleph.net.uniovi.es [156.35.11.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2RDZIm25923 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 15:35:18 +0200 Received: from bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es (bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es [156.35.56.38]) by aleph.net.uniovi.es (PMDF V6.0-24 #45227) with ESMTP id <01K1P2YEQ9BI003T49@aleph.net.uniovi.es> for pdftex@tug.org; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 15:34:34 +0200 (MET) Received: from localhost (carmenes@localhost) by bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f2RDZT926907; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 15:35:29 +0200 From: Ricardo Sanchez Carmenes Subject: Re: [pdftex] pdftex-pdfcrypt update In-reply-to: <20010327142751.C26349@anxur.fi.muni.cz> X-Sender: carmenes@bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es To: Han The Thanh Cc: Hans Hagen , pdftex@tug.org Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 15:35:29 +0200 (CEST) On Tue, 27 Mar 2001, Han The Thanh wrote: > I would be happy to incorporate the changes into pdftex sources. Or even > better, can you please discuss it with Sebastian so you can submit the > patch to the texlive p4 server (I do keep my sources in synchronization > with this server). Ok, I'll ask him for instructions when I fight major bugs and syntax will be fixed. Regards, Ricardo. _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 27-Mar-2001 14:35:39-GMT,4467;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA12049 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 07:35:37 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id CA0292AE8C; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 16:36:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp1.xs4all.nl (smtp1.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.131]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2REZmm26237 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 16:35:48 +0200 Received: from server-1.pragma-ade.nl (s340-isdn1771.dial.xs4all.nl [194.109.186.235]) by smtp1.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA02002; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 16:35:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from laptop-1 (laptop-1.pragma-ade.nl [200.1.1.25]) by server-1.pragma-ade.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA07654; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 16:31:55 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20010327160120.018e3b90@server-1> X-Sender: hagen@server-1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) To: Ricardo Sanchez Carmenes From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: [pdftex] pdftex-pdfcrypt update Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: References: <3.0.6.32.20010327141643.0098d250@server-1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 16:01:20 +0200 At 03:27 PM 3/27/01 +0200, Ricardo Sanchez Carmenes wrote: >> I think that looking at the other pdftex primitives >> >> \pdfcrypt >> owner {...} >> user {...} >> noprint >> noedit > >Maybe you are right. I'll study the case. >However, pdftex has also some primitives with the form >\pdfprimitive{ this and that } yes, but the things between { } are either processed by tex or passed onto pdf directly, there is never a key/value syntax in there let alone the "" as delimiters [which will make german users crazy since they are often made into an active char there]. >Could you or anybody else provide pros and cons for each syntax ? this key {} syntax conforms the annot and image inclusion syntax >> would be better, or maybe the latter keywords should be replaced by access >> to the pdf dicts involved (i will look into that when i can test it). > >No. The PDF encryption dictionary is not suitable for direct use. >It has the form: > ><< >/Filter /Standard >/V 1 >/R 2 >/O >/U < user pw as a 32-byte key represented in hexadecimal> >/P two-byte integer that controls permits > with bits 1-2=0, 7-32=1, 3=print, 4=edit, 5=copy, 6=annotations >>> > >/Filter /Standard /V 1 /R 2 are fixed, unless you use a custom-made >encryption filter. The /O and /U 32-byte keys are calculated from the >provided passwords and the "unique" file ID stored added to the trailer: >/ID [<16-byte id1><1-6byte id2>], therefore unsuitable for direct human >consum. Hm. If i read this all right, it would match the rest of pdftex's syntax to have a attr {} so that one should say [as happens with for instance widgets] attr {/P 1256} depending on the protection needed. During the developmen tof pdftex, thanh has made sure that anything that shoul dnot necessarily be hard coded, was not coded at all and passed by the user (or macro package). That way pdftex can keep up with developments without the need to adapt the source. Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma@wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 27-Mar-2001 14:36:10-GMT,3177;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA12055 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 07:36:09 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 21FA52B45D; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 12:42:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp8.xs4all.nl (smtp8.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.134]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2RAfFm24945 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 12:41:15 +0200 Received: from server-1.pragma-ade.nl (s340-isdn2137.dial.xs4all.nl [194.109.188.89]) by smtp8.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA18127; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 12:40:45 +0200 (CEST) Received: from laptop-1 (laptop-1.pragma-ade.nl [200.1.1.25]) by server-1.pragma-ade.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA06655; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 12:36:15 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20010327123523.016f4af0@server-1> X-Sender: hagen@server-1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) To: Ricardo Sanchez Carmenes From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: [pdftex] pdftex-pdfcrypt update Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: References: <3.0.6.32.20010327105325.017f1e50@server-1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 12:35:23 +0200 At 12:02 PM 3/27/01 +0200, Ricardo Sanchez Carmenes wrote: >On Tue, 27 Mar 2001, Hans Hagen wrote: > >I have not yet discussed with Han if he would like to incorporate the >changes into the regular version, but as he has welcomed the enhancement, >I may assume that he would, and I would be happy to see it there. I may be wise to discuss the new primitives neede to set the options, before it will move into the core of pdftex. >I am not making use of OS-specific code (well, rand() and srand() are >probably implementation-specific, but they do not realy matter), so >it should compile in Windows and others. However, I only can compile >under linux myself. I'm pretty sure that fabrice can cover the random functions -) Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma@wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 27-Mar-2001 14:36:12-GMT,2933;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA12063 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 07:36:10 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id E77BB2B45A; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 11:42:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp9.xs4all.nl (smtp9.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.135]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2R9fLm24514 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 11:41:22 +0200 Received: from server-1.pragma-ade.nl (s340-isdn1254.dial.xs4all.nl [194.109.184.230]) by smtp9.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA12775; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 11:40:49 +0200 (CEST) Received: from laptop-1 (laptop-1.pragma-ade.nl [200.1.1.25]) by server-1.pragma-ade.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA06398; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 11:31:27 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20010327105325.017f1e50@server-1> X-Sender: hagen@server-1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) To: Ricardo Sanchez Carmenes From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: [pdftex] pdftex-pdfcrypt update Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 10:53:25 +0200 At 10:13 AM 3/27/01 +0200, Ricardo Sanchez Carmenes wrote: > >I have updated the pdfcrypt version of pdftex to fix a problem >regarding outlines. Fixed linux binaries are available at > > > >When I announced the release of this pdftex version, I forgot >to mention that the announcement is being made with the knowledge >of the original author of pdftex (see enclosed mail). Will this move into the regular source code distribution, so that it will be available at windows etc too? Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma@wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 27-Mar-2001 14:36:12-GMT,2281;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA12061 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 07:36:10 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 11F222B460; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 11:45:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from interzone.ucc.ie (interzone.ucc.ie [143.239.1.134]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2R9iAm24575 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 11:44:10 +0200 Received: from swift.ucc.ie (swift.ucc.ie [143.239.211.48]) by interzone.ucc.ie (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA24332; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 10:44:06 +0100 (BST) Received: (from dongen@localhost) by swift.ucc.ie (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id KAA05749; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 10:42:56 +0100 (IST) From: Marc van Dongen To: Hans Hagen Cc: Ricardo Sanchez Carmenes , pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] pdftex-pdfcrypt update Message-ID: <20010327104255.Y29904@cs.ucc.ie> References: <3.0.6.32.20010327105325.017f1e50@server-1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20010327105325.017f1e50@server-1>; from pragma@wxs.nl on Tue, Mar 27, 2001 at 10:53:25AM +0200 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 10:42:55 +0100 Hans Hagen (pragma@wxs.nl) wrote: : Will this move into the regular source code distribution, so that it will : be available at windows etc too? And on sparcs? Regards, Marc _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 27-Mar-2001 15:37:39-GMT,2254;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA12979 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 08:37:38 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 6A8E82AE82; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 17:38:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from zevs.idi.ntnu.no (zevs.idi.ntnu.no [129.241.164.12]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2RFbMm26558 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 17:37:22 +0200 Received: from bryssel (dhcp-111-04.idi.ntnu.no [129.241.111.225]) by zevs.idi.ntnu.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA22969 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 17:36:54 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <01aa01c0b6d3$df0d0120$e16ff181@ntnu.no> From: "Magnus Lie Hetland" To: "pdfTeX" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Subject: [pdftex] [OT] PDF information extraction scripts? Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 17:37:45 +0200 Hi! Are there any standard information extraction scripts/command line programs for unix out there? The important thing is that it can extract pdf document title and can be called from the command line... Sorry about the off-topicness... -- Magnus Lie Hetland http://www.hetland.org "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away." -- Philip K. Dick _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 27-Mar-2001 17:14:39-GMT,5362;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA14517 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 10:14:38 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 5D5332AE82; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 19:15:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from aleph.net.uniovi.es (aleph.net.uniovi.es [156.35.11.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2RHE0m27068 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 19:14:01 +0200 Received: from bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es (bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es [156.35.56.38]) by aleph.net.uniovi.es (PMDF V6.0-24 #45227) with ESMTP id <01K1PAL9UHWS0047J0@aleph.net.uniovi.es> for pdftex@tug.org; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 19:13:02 +0200 (MET) Received: from localhost (carmenes@localhost) by bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f2RHDrj28889; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 19:13:53 +0200 From: Ricardo Sanchez Carmenes Subject: Re: [pdftex] pdftex-pdfcrypt update In-reply-to: <3.0.6.32.20010327160120.018e3b90@server-1> X-Sender: carmenes@bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es To: Hans Hagen Cc: pdftex@tug.org Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 19:13:53 +0200 (CEST) On Tue, 27 Mar 2001, Hans Hagen wrote: > At 03:27 PM 3/27/01 +0200, Ricardo Sanchez Carmenes wrote: > > >> I think that looking at the other pdftex primitives > >> > >> \pdfcrypt > >> owner {...} > >> user {...} > >> noprint > >> noedit > > > >Maybe you are right. I'll study the case. > >However, pdftex has also some primitives with the form > >\pdfprimitive{ this and that } > > yes, but the things between { } are either processed by tex or passed onto > pdf directly, there is never a key/value syntax in there let alone the "" It sounds reasonable. > as delimiters [which will make german users crazy since they are often made > into an active char there]. Well, I have " active in my macros, and I did not noticed troubles, but you could be right. > >Could you or anybody else provide pros and cons for each syntax ? > > this key {} syntax conforms the annot and image inclusion syntax It sounds reasonable too. > >> would be better, or maybe the latter keywords should be replaced by access > >> to the pdf dicts involved (i will look into that when i can test it). > > > >No. The PDF encryption dictionary is not suitable for direct use. > >It has the form: > > > ><< > >/Filter /Standard > >/V 1 > >/R 2 > >/O > >/U < user pw as a 32-byte key represented in hexadecimal> > >/P two-byte integer that controls permits > > with bits 1-2=0, 7-32=1, 3=print, 4=edit, 5=copy, 6=annotations > >>> > > > >/Filter /Standard /V 1 /R 2 are fixed, unless you use a custom-made > >encryption filter. The /O and /U 32-byte keys are calculated from the > >provided passwords and the "unique" file ID stored added to the trailer: > >/ID [<16-byte id1><1-6byte id2>], therefore unsuitable for direct human > >consum. > > Hm. If i read this all right, it would match the rest of pdftex's syntax to > have a > > attr {} > > so that one should say [as happens with for instance widgets] > > attr {/P 1256} > > depending on the protection needed. During the developmen tof pdftex, thanh > has made sure that anything that shoul dnot necessarily be hard coded, was > not coded at all and passed by the user (or macro package). That way pdftex > can keep up with developments without the need to adapt the source. And leave to the user or the macros to take care of calculating the right permission value ? Maybe a mixed solution could be useful. Anyway, browsing through the pdftex sources I found more than one place where this principle was not strictly followed. In short, your suggestions about syntax sound reasonable, but I still would like to hear others. The current syntax works fine for me, and I must recognize that coding the primitive was not the easiest part for me (it was my first incursion in web sources -- I feel confortable with C and pascal, but know little of web/tangle subtilities). I will make a try, but I will mainly concentrate in solving the difficulties directly related to the encryption process itself, stream output and so on, and leave syntax-related stuff to others better placed if necessary. BTW, did you try it already ? You have pretty complicated pdf files that make use of niceties that I do not realy use, and they would be a good test. Regards. _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 28-Mar-2001 7:54:39-GMT,1887;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA25963 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 00:54:37 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 4297B2AE82; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 09:55:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from servidor.unam.mx (servidor.unam.mx [132.248.10.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2S7sum30441 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 09:54:56 +0200 Received: from localhost (asierra@localhost) by servidor.unam.mx (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2S7rHf16098 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 01:53:18 -0600 (CST) From: Alejandro Aguilar Sierra To: pdftex@tug.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [pdftex] How to generate scr versions? Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 01:53:17 -0600 (CST) Hello, Excuse my ignorance. How can I generate a screen version of a pdftex document? Please answer to my e-mail address, I am not yet suscribed to this list. Thank you. -- Alejandro Aguilar Sierra asierra@servidor.unam.mx _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 28-Mar-2001 8:10:37-GMT,3619;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA26122 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 01:10:36 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 7E4AC2AE8B; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 10:11:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp3.xs4all.nl (smtp3.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.132]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2S8Arm30565 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 10:10:54 +0200 Received: from server-1.pragma-ade.nl (s340-modem3562.dial.xs4all.nl [194.109.173.234]) by smtp3.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA04995; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 10:10:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: from laptop-1 (laptop-1.pragma-ade.nl [200.1.1.25]) by server-1.pragma-ade.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA03302; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 10:07:27 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20010328092222.00b78ec0@server-1> X-Sender: hagen@server-1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) To: Ricardo Sanchez Carmenes From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: [pdftex] pdftex-pdfcrypt update Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: References: <3.0.6.32.20010327160120.018e3b90@server-1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 09:22:22 +0200 At 07:13 PM 3/27/01 +0200, Ricardo Sanchez Carmenes wrote: > ... >And leave to the user or the macros to take care of calculating the right >permission value ? Maybe a mixed solution could be useful. I'm not that familiar with the details, but does the permission play a role in the calculations? If so, then it should be keywords. For instance: can one change the /P entry in a pdf file without violating the file? Just curious: how easily can a file be decrypted? >In short, your suggestions about syntax sound reasonable, but I still >would like to hear others. The current syntax works fine for me, and >I must recognize that coding the primitive was not the easiest part for me maybe thanh can help you with that part since he's a master in tex syntaxes now -) >BTW, did you try it already ? You have pretty complicated pdf files that >make use of niceties that I do not realy use, and they would be a good >test. i'll have a look at it [normally work on windows, so i have to play around with the linux machine in such a way that it does not break other processes] Is it possible to post a djgpp cross compiled version? Thanh has a script for that. Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma@wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 28-Mar-2001 8:20:42-GMT,3238;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA26186 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 01:20:41 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id C9A7A2AE99; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 10:21:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.bremen.pop.de (mars.hamburg.pop.de [195.222.210.104]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2S8Kfm30651 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 10:20:41 +0200 Received: from uucp by mail.bremen.pop.de with local-rmail (Exim 2.02 #2) id 14iBHa-0003i5-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 10:26:22 +0200 Received: (from uartcom@localhost) by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id KAA29725 for tug.org!pdftex; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 10:19:04 +0200 (MEST) >Received: by artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de (Smail3.2 #1) id m14iBA5-004wwRC; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 10:18:37 +0200 (MEST) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= To: pdfTeX Subject: Re: [pdftex] [OT] PDF information extraction scripts? Message-ID: <20010328101837.J19264@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mail-Followup-To: pdfTeX References: <01aa01c0b6d3$df0d0120$e16ff181@ntnu.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <01aa01c0b6d3$df0d0120$e16ff181@ntnu.no>; from mlh@idi.ntnu.no on Tue, Mar 27, 2001 at 05:37:45PM +0200 Organization: ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Strasse 8, D-28359 Bremen X-Disclaimer: The views expressed are my own and not necessarily that of my employers. Received: from artcom8 by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 10:19 MES Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 10:18:37 +0200 On 2001-03-27 17:37:45 +0200, Magnus Lie Hetland wrote: > Are there any standard information extraction > scripts/command line programs for unix out there? > The important thing is that it can extract pdf > document title and can be called from the command > line... xpdf comes with a program pdfinfo; output is like this: Title: Bell Labs Technical Journal Subject: A Software Fault Prevention Approach in Coding and Root Cause Analysis Author: Creator: QuarkXPressª 4.02: LaserWriter 8 8.5.1 Producer: Acrobat Distiller 3.02 for Power Macintosh CreationDate: 19980728134220 ModDate: 20000424095149-04'00' Pages: 19 Encrypted: yes (print:yes copy:no) Linearized: yes Best regards Martin -- http://www.tm.oneiros.de/calendar/2001/ _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 28-Mar-2001 8:44:38-GMT,4166;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA26347 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 01:44:37 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 824712AE98; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 10:45:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from aleph.net.uniovi.es (aleph.net.uniovi.es [156.35.11.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2S8iwm30777 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 10:44:58 +0200 Received: from bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es (bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es [156.35.56.38]) by aleph.net.uniovi.es (PMDF V6.0-24 #45227) with ESMTP id <01K1Q745BF98004G86@aleph.net.uniovi.es> for pdftex@tug.org; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 10:44:26 +0200 (MET) Received: from localhost (carmenes@localhost) by bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f2S8jRJ32087; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 10:45:27 +0200 From: Ricardo Sanchez Carmenes Subject: Re: [pdftex] pdftex-pdfcrypt update In-reply-to: <3.0.6.32.20010328092222.00b78ec0@server-1> X-Sender: carmenes@bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es To: Hans Hagen Cc: pdftex@tug.org Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 10:45:27 +0200 (CEST) On Wed, 28 Mar 2001, Hans Hagen wrote: > At 07:13 PM 3/27/01 +0200, Ricardo Sanchez Carmenes wrote: > > > ... > > >And leave to the user or the macros to take care of calculating the right > >permission value ? Maybe a mixed solution could be useful. > > I'm not that familiar with the details, but does the permission play a role > in the calculations? If so, then it should be keywords. For instance: can Yes, they do. > one change the /P entry in a pdf file without violating the file? Of course not. If would be like having a high security door, but leaving the keys hanging from the door permanently. > > Just curious: how easily can a file be decrypted? Well, it's a question for experts, and I'm not, but apparently it is not so difficult. I guess that as the encryption algorithm only uses a 5-byte key, brute-force approaches are affordable. I think there even is a company that can find lost passwords for a fee. I wouldn't rely on this for higly sensible material. But the PDF specs make it possible to include custom-made encryption algorithms (or "encryption filters"), easy to do with pdftex with pdfcrypt. The only trouble is that you would need custom-made pdf readers too. It would be easy to modify xpdf accordingly, and I maybe it would possible to make plug-ins for the acrobat reader too. > > >In short, your suggestions about syntax sound reasonable, but I still > >would like to hear others. The current syntax works fine for me, and > >I must recognize that coding the primitive was not the easiest part for me > > maybe thanh can help you with that part since he's a master in tex syntaxes > now -) Good. > > >BTW, did you try it already ? You have pretty complicated pdf files that > >make use of niceties that I do not realy use, and they would be a good > >test. > > i'll have a look at it [normally work on windows, so i have to play around > with the linux machine in such a way that it does not break other processes] > > Is it possible to post a djgpp cross compiled version? Thanh has a script > for that. I'll ask him. Regards, Ricardo. _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 28-Mar-2001 14:24:37-GMT,3819;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA28466 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 07:24:36 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id A17AE2AE82; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 16:25:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f2SEOjm32170 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 16:24:46 +0200 Received: from remote142-8.home.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.142.8] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 14iGrr-00004P-00; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 16:24:11 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.20010328172234.08b751a2@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) To: Ricardo Sanchez Carmenes , pdftex@tug.org From: Heiko Oberdiek Subject: Re: [pdftex] pdftex-pdfcrypt update In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 17:22:34 +0100 At 10:13 27.03.2001 +0200, Ricardo Sanchez Carmenes wrote: > >I have updated the pdfcrypt version of pdftex to fix a problem >regarding outlines. Fixed linux binaries are available at > > A very good idea starting support of encryption, because this feature is asked by many people (despite of the fact, that the security is not very high). But it is a hard job to do it in pdfTeX, because pdfTeX provides low level features, where pdf code is directly inserted. So _all_ insertions (by \pdfobj, \pdfstartlink, ...) have to be scanned to detect strings and streams in order to encrypt them. For example two test files, that are currently not encrypted in a correct way: %%% cut %%% testurl.tex %%% cut %%% \pdfcompresslevel=0 \pdfcrypt{owner = "test" user = "test" none print} \nopagenumbers \font\f=pcrr \f \noindent \pdfstartlink user{% /Subtype /Link /A << /Type /Action /S /URI /URI (http://www.dante.de/) >>% }% www.dante.de \pdfendlink \bye %%% cut %%% testurl.tex %%% cut %%% The pdf code contains an unencrypted string: /URI (http://www.dante.de/) (and AR will decrypt it to nonsense.) An example with stream and string: %%% cut %%% testobj.tex %%% cut %%% \pdfcompresslevel=0 \pdfcrypt{owner = "test" user = "test" none print} \nopagenumbers \hbox{} \immediate\pdfobj{% <<^^J% /Type /DummyTest^^J% /TestString (FOO BAR)^^J% /Length 11^^J% >>^^J% stream^^J% HELLO WORLDendstream% } \bye %%% cut %%% testobj.tex %%% cut %%% The object is not encrypted at all: 1 0 obj << /Type /DummyTest /TestString (FOO BAR) /Length 11 >> stream HELLO WORLDendstream endobj Perhaps it is easier and safer to write a standalone program that adds encryption support. Also this has the advantage that such a program can be used with pdf files, generated with ghostscript. Best regards Heiko _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 28-Mar-2001 15:11:38-GMT,3063;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA29004 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 08:11:37 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id DF5392AE82; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 17:12:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp9.xs4all.nl (smtp9.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.135]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2SFBTm32398 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 17:11:29 +0200 Received: from server-1.pragma-ade.nl (s340-isdn2665.dial.xs4all.nl [194.109.190.105]) by smtp9.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA14484; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 17:10:59 +0200 (CEST) Received: from laptop-1 (laptop-1.pragma-ade.nl [200.1.1.25]) by server-1.pragma-ade.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA05023; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 17:08:59 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20010328170825.014f9150@server-1> X-Sender: hagen@server-1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) To: Heiko Oberdiek From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: [pdftex] pdftex-pdfcrypt update Cc: Ricardo Sanchez Carmenes , pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.16.20010328172234.08b751a2@localhost> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 17:08:25 +0200 At 05:22 PM 3/28/01 +0100, Heiko Oberdiek wrote: ... >But it is a hard job to do it in pdfTeX, because pdfTeX >provides low level features, where pdf code is directly >inserted. So _all_ insertions (by \pdfobj, \pdfstartlink, ...) >have to be scanned to detect strings and streams in order >to encrypt them. > >For example two test files, that are currently not encrypted >in a correct way: ... it may be enough to encrypt compressed streams only (i.e. text and graphical data), since encripting any dict or descriptive object is a slowdown and not that useful. Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma@wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 28-Mar-2001 15:29:39-GMT,2308;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA29259 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 08:29:37 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 794752B44A; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 17:30:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp-relay.noc.dsvr.net (smtp-relay.noc.dsvr.net [212.69.192.4]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2SFTgm32542 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 17:29:43 +0200 Received: from [212.69.198.36] (helo=svr2.design-web.co.uk) by smtp-relay.noc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14iHsl-000CHd-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 16:29:11 +0100 Received: from daltons.net (mail.radioscape.com [193.122.23.66]) by svr2.design-web.co.uk (8.11.2/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2SFTAg31652 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 16:29:10 +0100 Message-ID: <3AC203B8.6020008@daltons.net> From: Barney Dalton User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; 0.8.1) Gecko/20010323 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [pdftex] creating multiple versions of same document Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 16:31:04 +0100 This may be a stupid question............. Is it possible to generate multiple versions of the same document from a makefile/script? I would like to produce double sided / single sided / web optimised versions of the same file without having to edit the source file each time. I'm using pdflatex thanks barney _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 28-Mar-2001 15:39:40-GMT,2389;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA29484 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 08:39:38 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id C759B2AE82; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 17:40:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ecnwall.ecn.nl ([130.112.1.86]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2SFdIm32636 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 17:39:18 +0200 Received: from ecntex.ecn.nl (ecntex.ecn.nl [130.112.1.26]) by ecnwall.ecn.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BFE026C; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 17:37:34 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by ecntex.ecn.nl with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 17:37:34 +0200 Message-ID: <92D6AAE888CED411A16A00508BB0B827A23FE2@ecntex.ecn.nl> From: "Dok, D. van" To: "'Barney Dalton'" , pdftex@tug.org Subject: RE: [pdftex] creating multiple versions of same document MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 17:37:34 +0200 > This may be a stupid question............. > Is it possible to generate multiple versions of the same > document from a > makefile/script? > I would like to produce double sided / single sided / web optimised > versions of the same file without having to edit the source > file each time. > > I'm using pdflatex > The easiest way I can think of is to prepare three files: double.tex, single.tex and screen.tex, with proper preambles and as a body: \begin{document} \input mythesis \end{document} but I'm curious after other peoples tricks... Dennis van Dok _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 28-Mar-2001 15:48:48-GMT,2963;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA29670 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 08:48:47 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 253302B450; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 17:49:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f2SFmLm32752 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 17:48:21 +0200 Received: from remote142-169.home.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.142.169] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 14iIAl-0001Jf-00; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 17:47:48 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.20010328184732.3caf2730@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) To: Hans Hagen From: Heiko Oberdiek Subject: Re: [pdftex] pdftex-pdfcrypt update Cc: Ricardo Sanchez Carmenes , pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20010328170825.014f9150@server-1> References: <3.0.1.16.20010328172234.08b751a2@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 18:47:32 +0100 At 17:08 28.03.2001 +0200, Hans Hagen wrote: >At 05:22 PM 3/28/01 +0100, Heiko Oberdiek wrote: > >... > >>But it is a hard job to do it in pdfTeX, because pdfTeX >>provides low level features, where pdf code is directly >>inserted. So _all_ insertions (by \pdfobj, \pdfstartlink, ...) >>have to be scanned to detect strings and streams in order >>to encrypt them. >> >>For example two test files, that are currently not encrypted >>in a correct way: > >... > >it may be enough to encrypt compressed streams only (i.e. text and >graphical data), since encripting any dict or descriptive object is a >slowdown and not that useful. But AR does not know, what is encrypted, and what not, so the files are displayed in a wrong way (I have tested \url with hyperref and thumbpdf (no thumbnails are shown)). If I understand the pdf spec. correctly, either nothing or _all_ have to be encrypted. Yours sincerely Heiko _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 28-Mar-2001 15:51:52-GMT,3338;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA29739 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 08:51:51 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 779A12B45B; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 17:52:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from zevs.idi.ntnu.no (zevs.idi.ntnu.no [129.241.164.12]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2SFpOm00346 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 17:51:24 +0200 Received: from bryssel (dhcp-111-04.idi.ntnu.no [129.241.111.225]) by zevs.idi.ntnu.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA16678 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 17:50:56 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <00cd01c0b79e$f9adb300$e16ff181@ntnu.no> From: "Magnus Lie Hetland" To: "pdfTeX" References: <92D6AAE888CED411A16A00508BB0B827A23FE2@ecntex.ecn.nl> Subject: Re: [pdftex] creating multiple versions of same document MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 17:51:38 +0200 > The easiest way I can think of is to prepare three files: double.tex, > single.tex and screen.tex, with proper preambles and as a body: > > \begin{document} > \input mythesis > \end{document} > > but I'm curious after other peoples tricks... You could also use some macro program, either m4 or sed, or some scripting language (Python, Perl) and leave fields in the document for some definitions... Like (with Python): ---- in test.tex ---- \documentclass%(options)s{article} %(otherstuff)s \begin{document} ... \end{document} --------------------- Then, to produce a two-sided version set with Palatino, you could do the following: ---- in test.py ---- params = {} params["options"] = "[twoside]" params["otherstuff"] = r"\usepackage{mathpple}" output = open("outfile.tex", "w") input = open("test.tex", "r") output.write(input.read() % params) input.close() output.close() -------------------- This example used some pretty stupid names etc., but shows the principle, anyway. The nice thing about using the Python macro facility with TeX is that if you only put the macro fields on separate lines (or at the end of a line) they will be treated as comments by LaTeX if you don't use then, since they begin with a percent sign... :) -- Magnus Lie Hetland http://www.hetland.org "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away." -- Philip K. Dick _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 28-Mar-2001 15:54:56-GMT,2663;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA29780 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 08:54:55 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id B49BE2AE98; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 17:55:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.17]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2SFsBm00382 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 17:54:12 +0200 Received: from wesley.springies.nom (ool-18bad1dd.dyn.optonline.net [24.186.209.221]) by mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.0 Patch 2 (built Dec 14 2000)) with ESMTP id <0GAX00H2105GUF@mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for pdftex@tug.org; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 10:53:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from ats by wesley.springies.nom with local (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian)) id 14iIGT-0000sy-00 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 10:53:41 -0500 From: Alan Shutko In-reply-to: <92D6AAE888CED411A16A00508BB0B827A23FE2@ecntex.ecn.nl> To: pdftex@tug.org Message-id: <87lmppyjnm.fsf@wesley.springies.nom> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT User-Agent: Gnus/5.090001 (Oort Gnus v0.01) Emacs/21.0.100 Lines: 15 References: <92D6AAE888CED411A16A00508BB0B827A23FE2@ecntex.ecn.nl> Subject: [pdftex] Re: creating multiple versions of same document Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 10:53:41 -0500 "Dok, D. van" writes: > but I'm curious after other peoples tricks... I have an \input{options} in my main file, and a script which iterates through options-type.tex files, symlinking options.tex to each in turn and moving the pdf to basename-type.pdf. So, for example, I might have options-skim.tex, options-twopercent.tex, options-cream.tex resulting in basename-skim.pdf.... -- Alan Shutko - In a variety of flavors! If you wish to live wisely, ignore sayings -- including this one. _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 28-Mar-2001 16:04:58-GMT,2728;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA29947 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 09:04:57 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id A20672B463; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 18:02:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from server-22.tower-4.starlabs.net (mail.london-1.starlabs.net [212.125.75.12]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f2SG1om00441 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 18:01:50 +0200 X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 17177 invoked from network); 28 Mar 2001 15:57:00 -0000 Received: from nagmx1e.nag.co.uk (HELO nag.co.uk) (62.232.54.130) by server-22.tower-4.starlabs.net with SMTP; 28 Mar 2001 15:57:00 -0000 Received: from penguin.nag.co.uk (IDENT:root@penguin.nag.co.uk [192.156.217.14]) by nag.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA05175 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 17:01:19 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <200103281601.RAA31137@penguin.nag.co.uk> Received: by penguin.nag.co.uk (8.9.3) id RAA31137; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 17:01:16 +0100 From: David Carlisle To: pdftex@tug.org In-reply-to: <00cd01c0b79e$f9adb300$e16ff181@ntnu.no> (mlh@idi.ntnu.no) Subject: Re: [pdftex] creating multiple versions of same document References: <92D6AAE888CED411A16A00508BB0B827A23FE2@ecntex.ecn.nl> <00cd01c0b79e$f9adb300$e16ff181@ntnu.no> Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 17:01:16 +0100 > You could also use some macro program, either m4 or sed, there is another macro program that comes to mind for users of this list... \documentclass[\options]{article} pdflatex \def\options{twoside,a4paper}\input test.tex You may need extra \ depending on your command line processor: pdflatex \\def\\options\{a,b,c\}\\input xx.tex David _____________________________________________________________________ This message has been checked for all known viruses by Star Internet delivered through the MessageLabs Virus Control Centre. For further information visit http://www.star.net.uk/stats.asp _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 28-Mar-2001 16:21:38-GMT,2580;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA00328 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 09:21:36 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 9D3932AE99; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 18:22:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from zevs.idi.ntnu.no (zevs.idi.ntnu.no [129.241.164.12]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2SGLbm00536 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 18:21:37 +0200 Received: from bryssel (dhcp-111-04.idi.ntnu.no [129.241.111.225]) by zevs.idi.ntnu.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA19466 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 18:21:08 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <011001c0b7a3$32328da0$e16ff181@ntnu.no> From: "Magnus Lie Hetland" To: "pdfTeX" References: <92D6AAE888CED411A16A00508BB0B827A23FE2@ecntex.ecn.nl> <00cd01c0b79e$f9adb300$e16ff181@ntnu.no> <200103281601.RAA31137@penguin.nag.co.uk> Subject: Re: [pdftex] creating multiple versions of same document MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 18:21:51 +0200 From: "David Carlisle" > > > You could also use some macro program, either m4 or sed, > > there is another macro program that comes to mind for > users of this list... Oops! Sorry about that ;) > > \documentclass[\options]{article} > > pdflatex \def\options{twoside,a4paper}\input test.tex > Yay! Great! I really ought to use TeX more like a macro/programming language... > David -- Magnus Lie Hetland http://www.hetland.org "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away." -- Philip K. Dick _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 28-Mar-2001 12:53:39-GMT,2849;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA27815 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 05:53:38 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 509C02AE82; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 14:54:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp8.xs4all.nl (smtp8.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.134]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2SCrsm31769 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 14:53:54 +0200 Received: from server-1.pragma-ade.nl (s340-isdn2233.dial.xs4all.nl [194.109.188.185]) by smtp8.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA16390; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 14:53:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: from laptop-1 (laptop-1.pragma-ade.nl [200.1.1.25]) by server-1.pragma-ade.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA04486; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 14:52:36 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20010328144653.00b47cd0@server-1> X-Sender: hagen@server-1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) To: Ricardo Sanchez Carmenes From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: [pdftex] pdftex-pdfcrypt update Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: References: <3.0.6.32.20010328092222.00b78ec0@server-1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 14:46:53 +0200 At 10:45 AM 3/28/01 +0200, Ricardo Sanchez Carmenes wrote: >Well, it's a question for experts, and I'm not, but apparently it is not >so difficult. I guess that as the encryption algorithm only uses a 5-byte >key, brute-force approaches are affordable. so part of the key is hardcoded in acrobat viewers, well then it's a matter of time before that key is public. Can you view your files with GS? Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma@wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 28-Mar-2001 21:25:38-GMT,3133;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA06033 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 14:25:37 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 478872AE82; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 23:26:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from aleph.net.uniovi.es (aleph.net.uniovi.es [156.35.11.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2SLPMm01726 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 23:25:22 +0200 Received: from bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es (bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es [156.35.56.38]) by aleph.net.uniovi.es (PMDF V6.0-24 #45227) with ESMTP id <01K1QXNTXOKS0054D4@aleph.net.uniovi.es> for pdftex@tug.org; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 23:24:46 +0200 (MET) Received: from localhost (carmenes@localhost) by bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f2T0Pjc06164; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 02:25:45 +0200 From: Ricardo Sanchez Carmenes Subject: Re: [pdftex] pdftex-pdfcrypt update In-reply-to: <3.0.6.32.20010328144653.00b47cd0@server-1> X-Sender: carmenes@bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es To: Hans Hagen Cc: pdftex@tug.org Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 02:25:45 +0200 (CEST) On Wed, 28 Mar 2001, Hans Hagen wrote: > At 10:45 AM 3/28/01 +0200, Ricardo Sanchez Carmenes wrote: > > >Well, it's a question for experts, and I'm not, but apparently it is not > >so difficult. I guess that as the encryption algorithm only uses a 5-byte > >key, brute-force approaches are affordable. > > so part of the key is hardcoded in acrobat viewers, well then it's a matter > of time before that key is public. Can you view your files with GS? You can view the file with GS if you install the correct pdf_sec.ps file where the decoding algorithm is contained, AND you provide manually the correct owner or user password for that file. The words "key is public" is missleading. Every encrypted document has its own "unique" 5-byte key calculated from the passwords, the file ID and the permits. There is no and there will not be any "universal" key that would open every encrypted document. But using brute-force approaches you can find the unknown key. A 5-byte key means that there are about 10^12 different keys, not so many for the CIA. Ricardo. _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 28-Mar-2001 21:30:38-GMT,2860;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA06123 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 14:30:37 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 011712AE93; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 23:31:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from aleph.net.uniovi.es (aleph.net.uniovi.es [156.35.11.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2SLU1m01810 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 23:30:01 +0200 Received: from bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es (bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es [156.35.56.38]) by aleph.net.uniovi.es (PMDF V6.0-24 #45227) with ESMTP id <01K1QXTQF4B60057KB@aleph.net.uniovi.es> for pdftex@tug.org; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 23:29:31 +0200 (MET) Received: from localhost (carmenes@localhost) by bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f2T0UV306325; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 02:30:31 +0200 From: Ricardo Sanchez Carmenes Subject: Re: [pdftex] pdftex-pdfcrypt update In-reply-to: <3.0.6.32.20010328170825.014f9150@server-1> X-Sender: carmenes@bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es To: Hans Hagen Cc: Heiko Oberdiek , pdftex@tug.org Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 02:30:31 +0200 (CEST) On Wed, 28 Mar 2001, Hans Hagen wrote: > At 05:22 PM 3/28/01 +0100, Heiko Oberdiek wrote: > > ... > > >But it is a hard job to do it in pdfTeX, because pdfTeX > >provides low level features, where pdf code is directly > >inserted. So _all_ insertions (by \pdfobj, \pdfstartlink, ...) > >have to be scanned to detect strings and streams in order > >to encrypt them. > > > >For example two test files, that are currently not encrypted > >in a correct way: > > ... > > it may be enough to encrypt compressed streams only (i.e. text and > graphical data), since encripting any dict or descriptive object is a > slowdown and not that useful. That's right. This is how the encryption standard is defined. The PDFref specs are clear. Ricardo. _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 28-Mar-2001 21:33:42-GMT,2676;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA06162 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 14:33:42 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 4E1772B44F; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 23:34:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from aleph.net.uniovi.es (aleph.net.uniovi.es [156.35.11.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2SLXTm01873 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 23:33:29 +0200 Received: from bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es (bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es [156.35.56.38]) by aleph.net.uniovi.es (PMDF V6.0-24 #45227) with ESMTP id <01K1QXXOLTAY00564S@aleph.net.uniovi.es> for pdftex@tug.org; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 23:32:43 +0200 (MET) Received: from localhost (carmenes@localhost) by bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f2T0XgQ06477; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 02:33:42 +0200 From: Ricardo Sanchez Carmenes Subject: Re: [pdftex] pdftex-pdfcrypt update In-reply-to: <3.0.1.16.20010328184732.3caf2730@localhost> X-Sender: carmenes@bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es To: Heiko Oberdiek Cc: Hans Hagen , pdftex@tug.org Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 02:33:42 +0200 (CEST) On Wed, 28 Mar 2001, Heiko Oberdiek wrote: > But AR does not know, what is encrypted, and what not, so > the files are displayed in a wrong way (I have tested \url with > hyperref and thumbpdf (no thumbnails are shown)). > If I understand the pdf spec. correctly, either nothing or > _all_ have to be encrypted. You are right. The trouble comes from the fact that some streams or some strings that should be encoded are output before pdftex is aware that this file must be encoded. I'ts a trouble to solve. Could you send me offending files, plz? Ricardo. _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 29-Mar-2001 7:06:38-GMT,3200;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA12212 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 00:06:37 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 9C4602AE99; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 09:07:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f2T76Im04105 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 09:06:18 +0200 Received: from remote142-180.home.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.142.180] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 14iO43-0005Vz-00; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 00:05:15 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.20010329005823.3e672068@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) To: Ricardo Sanchez Carmenes From: Heiko Oberdiek Subject: Re: [pdftex] pdftex-pdfcrypt update Cc: Hans Hagen , pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: References: <3.0.1.16.20010328184732.3caf2730@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 00:58:23 +0100 At 02:33 29.03.2001 +0200, Ricardo Sanchez Carmenes wrote: >On Wed, 28 Mar 2001, Heiko Oberdiek wrote: > >> But AR does not know, what is encrypted, and what not, so >> the files are displayed in a wrong way (I have tested \url with >> hyperref and thumbpdf (no thumbnails are shown)). >> If I understand the pdf spec. correctly, either nothing or >> _all_ have to be encrypted. > >You are right. The trouble comes from the fact that some streams or >some strings that should be encoded are output before pdftex is >aware that this file must be encoded. I do not know, where the problem is, because I have not seen the source code. The fact remains, that the code of \pdfobj, attributes by attr or user and ... have to be checked, whether there are strings or streams, because they have to be encrypted, too. >I'ts a trouble to solve. Could you send me offending files, plz? I have send you two files in the list and two other files per mail. I think short plain-TeX files will help you more, than complicate LaTeX files with hyperref, thumbpdf ... But if the known problems are solved, you can try the test files of hyperref (especially for links, bookmarks, forms, ...). Best regards Heiko _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 29-Mar-2001 7:07:15-GMT,2533;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA12241 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 00:07:14 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id D83AA2B45B; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 09:07:03 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f2T76Im04108 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 09:06:18 +0200 Received: from remote142-155.home.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.142.155] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 14iTk5-0000AV-00; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 06:09:01 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.20010329060700.29c7d2c8@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) To: Ricardo Sanchez Carmenes From: Heiko Oberdiek Subject: Re: [pdftex] pdftex-pdfcrypt update Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: References: <3.0.1.16.20010328184732.3caf2730@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 06:07:00 +0100 At 02:33 29.03.2001 +0200, Ricardo Sanchez Carmenes wrote: >I'ts a trouble to solve. Could you send me offending files, plz? I have updated thumbpdf (v2.9), so that the password can be given on the command line. %%% cut %%% testthumb %%% cut %%% \pdfcrypt{owner = "test" user = "test" none print} \documentclass[a4paper,12pt]{documentclass} \usepackage{times} \usepackage{thumbpdf} \begin{document} Hello World \end{document} %%% cut %%% testthumb %%% cut %%% pdflatex testthumb thumbpdf --password=test testthumb pdflatex testthumb Best regards Heiko _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 29-Mar-2001 7:08:51-GMT,2657;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA12278 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 00:08:50 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id C36EF2B45F; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 09:07:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f2T76Jm04111 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 09:06:19 +0200 Received: from remote142-180.home.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.142.180] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 14iO45-0005Vz-00; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 00:05:17 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.20010329010117.3e67789e@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) To: Ricardo Sanchez Carmenes , Hans Hagen From: Heiko Oberdiek Subject: Re: [pdftex] pdftex-pdfcrypt update Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: References: <3.0.6.32.20010328170825.014f9150@server-1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 01:01:17 +0100 At 02:30 29.03.2001 +0200, Ricardo Sanchez Carmenes wrote: >On Wed, 28 Mar 2001, Hans Hagen wrote: >> it may be enough to encrypt compressed streams only (i.e. text and >> graphical data), since encripting any dict or descriptive object is a >> slowdown and not that useful. > >That's right. This is how the encryption standard is defined. >The PDFref specs are clear. I understand the pdf specs so, that _all_ strings and streams (except some of the encryption dictionary) have to be encrypted regardless of compression. Other data such as integers, names, dicts are not encrypted to allow random access to the objects. Yours sincerely Heiko _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 29-Mar-2001 7:31:55-GMT,3123;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA12515 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 00:31:54 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 989202B456; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 09:32:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from aleph.net.uniovi.es (aleph.net.uniovi.es [156.35.11.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2T7Vqm04289 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 09:31:52 +0200 Received: from bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es (bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es [156.35.56.38]) by aleph.net.uniovi.es (PMDF V6.0-24 #45227) with ESMTP id <01K1RITHRLPU005BI5@aleph.net.uniovi.es> for pdftex@tug.org; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 09:30:14 +0200 (MET) Received: from localhost (carmenes@localhost) by bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f2TAVEi08632; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 12:31:14 +0200 From: Ricardo Sanchez Carmenes Subject: Re: [pdftex] pdftex-pdfcrypt update In-reply-to: <3.0.1.16.20010329060700.29c7d2c8@localhost> X-Sender: carmenes@bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es To: Heiko Oberdiek Cc: pdftex@tug.org Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 12:31:14 +0200 (CEST) On Thu, 29 Mar 2001, Heiko Oberdiek wrote: > >I'ts a trouble to solve. Could you send me offending files, plz? I found your other files. Thanks. I have solved two of the problems already (testout and testurl). For testobj I'll need to parse the stuff to distinguish strings and streams from the rest. It's certainly more complicated to solve than the others, but it should be feasible. May I ask you a similar minimal file for the jpeg problem ? This minimal files are indeed useful to track bugs. > I have updated thumbpdf (v2.9), so that the password > can be given on the command line. > > %%% cut %%% testthumb %%% cut %%% > \pdfcrypt{owner = "test" user = "test" none print} > \documentclass[a4paper,12pt]{documentclass} > \usepackage{times} > \usepackage{thumbpdf} > \begin{document} > Hello World > \end{document} > %%% cut %%% testthumb %%% cut %%% > > pdflatex testthumb > thumbpdf --password=test testthumb > pdflatex testthumb thumbpdf calls GS. Did you check that GS is reading encypted pdf's ? Regards, Ricardo. _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 29-Mar-2001 7:39:39-GMT,3023;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA12600 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 00:39:38 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id C79BC2AE8B; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 09:40:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ecnwall.ecn.nl ([130.112.1.86]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2T7d9m04335 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 09:39:10 +0200 Received: from ecntex.ecn.nl (ecntex.ecn.nl [130.112.1.26]) by ecnwall.ecn.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C9EC2A0 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 09:37:22 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by ecntex.ecn.nl with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 09:37:22 +0200 Message-ID: <92D6AAE888CED411A16A00508BB0B827A23FE3@ecntex.ecn.nl> From: "Dok, D. van" To: pdfTeX Subject: RE: [pdftex] creating multiple versions of same document MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 09:37:21 +0200 > From: "David Carlisle" > > > > > You could also use some macro program, either m4 or sed, > > > > there is another macro program that comes to mind for > > users of this list... > > > > \documentclass[\options]{article} > > > > pdflatex \def\options{twoside,a4paper}\input test.tex > > > > Yay! Great! > > I really ought to use TeX more like a macro/programming language... Although TeX is very powerful it is still hard to create two PDF files from a single source in one run. But how about a docstrip-like scheme? in pseudocode, the file thesis.tex would look like: ----------------------------------------------------------------- \iffirstpass \openoutputfile{0}{thesis-s.tex} % <-- don't know the right syntax \openoutputfile{1}{thesis-p.tex} \writetofile{0}{ < all the options for the screen version> \firstpassfalse \input thesis.tex } \writetofile{1}{ < all the options for the printer version> \firstpassfalse \input thesis.tex } \endinput \fi ----------------------------------------------------------------- This allows you to keep your work in one place. A simple makefile can take care of production runs. Dennis van Dok _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 29-Mar-2001 7:42:21-GMT,3292;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA12612 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 00:42:20 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 29BFA2B452; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 09:42:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp9.xs4all.nl (smtp9.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.135]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2T7fRm04377 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 09:41:27 +0200 Received: from server-1.pragma-ade.nl (s340-modem3537.dial.xs4all.nl [194.109.173.209]) by smtp9.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA25608; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 09:40:57 +0200 (CEST) Received: from laptop-1 (laptop-1.pragma-ade.nl [200.1.1.25]) by server-1.pragma-ade.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA08020; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 09:39:47 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20010329091000.01b1e2a0@server-1> X-Sender: hagen@server-1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) To: Ricardo Sanchez Carmenes From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: [pdftex] pdftex-pdfcrypt update Cc: Heiko Oberdiek , pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: References: <3.0.1.16.20010328184732.3caf2730@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 09:10:00 +0200 At 02:33 AM 3/29/01 +0200, Ricardo Sanchez Carmenes wrote: >On Wed, 28 Mar 2001, Heiko Oberdiek wrote: > >> But AR does not know, what is encrypted, and what not, so >> the files are displayed in a wrong way (I have tested \url with >> hyperref and thumbpdf (no thumbnails are shown)). >> If I understand the pdf spec. correctly, either nothing or >> _all_ have to be encrypted. > >You are right. The trouble comes from the fact that some streams or >some strings that should be encoded are output before pdftex is >aware that this file must be encoded. I think that flushing data before the crypt flag is set is a macro package problem, so i don't think that you have to catch that bordercase. You can consider to disable crypting when the filesize is > 0 before the first stream is crypted. Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma@wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 29-Mar-2001 7:48:12-GMT,3573;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA12638 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 00:48:10 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id E4D152B465; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 09:42:03 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp9.xs4all.nl (smtp9.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.135]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2T7fSm04381 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 09:41:28 +0200 Received: from server-1.pragma-ade.nl (s340-modem3537.dial.xs4all.nl [194.109.173.209]) by smtp9.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA25623; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 09:40:58 +0200 (CEST) Received: from laptop-1 (laptop-1.pragma-ade.nl [200.1.1.25]) by server-1.pragma-ade.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA08021; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 09:39:47 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20010329091423.01b18d40@server-1> X-Sender: hagen@server-1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) To: Heiko Oberdiek From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: [pdftex] pdftex-pdfcrypt update Cc: Ricardo Sanchez Carmenes , pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.16.20010329010117.3e67789e@localhost> References: <3.0.6.32.20010328170825.014f9150@server-1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 09:14:23 +0200 At 01:01 AM 3/29/01 +0100, Heiko Oberdiek wrote: >At 02:30 29.03.2001 +0200, Ricardo Sanchez Carmenes wrote: >>On Wed, 28 Mar 2001, Hans Hagen wrote: >>> it may be enough to encrypt compressed streams only (i.e. text and >>> graphical data), since encripting any dict or descriptive object is a >>> slowdown and not that useful. >> >>That's right. This is how the encryption standard is defined. >>The PDFref specs are clear. > >I understand the pdf specs so, that _all_ strings and streams >(except some of the encryption dictionary) have to be encrypted >regardless of compression. Other data such as integers, >names, dicts are not encrypted to allow random access to >the objects. I think that it should be possible to disable encryption at any moment [temporarily] since some streams may not be compressed (and encrypted). I remember having problems with streams that contain function specifiers. So, having that backdoor of non encrypted streams (immediate stream objects) is a good idea since it permits experimentation. Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma@wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 29-Mar-2001 8:03:38-GMT,2690;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA12744 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 01:03:37 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 5A7202AE82; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 10:04:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from zambeze.ujf-grenoble.fr (zambeze.ujf-grenoble.fr [152.77.2.3]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2T83Rm04521 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 10:03:27 +0200 Received: from mozart.ujf-grenoble.Fr (mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.241.5]) by zambeze.ujf-grenoble.fr (Pro-8.9.3/8.9.3/Configured by AD & JE 25/10/1999) with ESMTP id KAA01033; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 10:02:51 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from bouche@localhost) by mozart.ujf-grenoble.Fr (8.9.3/8.8.5) id KAA12057; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 10:02:40 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <200103290802.KAA12057@mozart.ujf-grenoble.Fr> From: Thierry Bouche To: "Dok, D. van" Cc: pdfTeX Subject: RE: [pdftex] creating multiple versions of same document In-Reply-To: <92D6AAE888CED411A16A00508BB0B827A23FE3@ecntex.ecn.nl> References: <92D6AAE888CED411A16A00508BB0B827A23FE3@ecntex.ecn.nl> X-Mailer: VM 6.22 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 10:02:40 +0200 (MET DST) » Although TeX is very powerful it is still hard to create two PDF files from » a single source in one run. I think David had a script in mind, simple as: pdflatex '\def\options{screenversion}\input' "$1.tex" mv $1.pdf $1-screen.pdf pdflatex '\def\options{paperversion}\input' "$1.tex" mv $1.pdf $1-paper.pdf etc. You can also have \PassOptionsToPackage in the pdflatex line, if needed. that's how I would do it... Thierry Bouche __ « Ils vivent pour vivre, et nous, hélas ! nous vivons pour savoir. » Charles Baudelaire, Paris. _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 29-Mar-2001 8:11:40-GMT,2982;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA12834 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 01:11:38 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 7CE932B462; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 10:12:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp8.xs4all.nl (smtp8.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.134]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2T8Bnm04602 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 10:11:49 +0200 Received: from server-1.pragma-ade.nl (s340-isdn2802.dial.xs4all.nl [194.109.190.242]) by smtp8.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA03337; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 10:11:19 +0200 (CEST) Received: from laptop-1 (laptop-1.pragma-ade.nl [200.1.1.25]) by server-1.pragma-ade.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA08147; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 09:55:26 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20010329095236.01b4fbe0@server-1> X-Sender: hagen@server-1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) To: Ricardo Sanchez Carmenes From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: [pdftex] pdftex-pdfcrypt update Cc: Heiko Oberdiek , pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: References: <3.0.1.16.20010329060700.29c7d2c8@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 09:52:36 +0200 At 12:31 PM 3/29/01 +0200, Ricardo Sanchez Carmenes wrote: >On Thu, 29 Mar 2001, Heiko Oberdiek wrote: >For testobj I'll need to parse the stuff to distinguish strings >and streams from the rest. It's certainly more complicated to >solve than the others, but it should be feasible. i suggest to just provide switched to temp disable encryption; the macro writer knows what goes into such a steam and can take measures; this is much simplier; parsing such content is asking for troubles Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma@wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 29-Mar-2001 8:33:37-GMT,2506;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA12930 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 01:33:36 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id C324B2B44F; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 10:34:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from aleph.net.uniovi.es (aleph.net.uniovi.es [156.35.11.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2T8XHm04732 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 10:33:17 +0200 Received: from bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es (bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es [156.35.56.38]) by aleph.net.uniovi.es (PMDF V6.0-24 #45227) with ESMTP id <01K1RL002O5W0059V9@aleph.net.uniovi.es> for pdftex@tug.org; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 10:32:45 +0200 (MET) Received: from localhost (carmenes@localhost) by bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f2T8W1u17242; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 10:32:01 +0200 From: Ricardo Sanchez Carmenes Subject: Re: [pdftex] pdftex-pdfcrypt update In-reply-to: <3.0.6.32.20010329091000.01b1e2a0@server-1> X-Sender: carmenes@bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es To: Hans Hagen Cc: Heiko Oberdiek , pdftex@tug.org Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 10:32:01 +0200 (CEST) On Thu, 29 Mar 2001, Hans Hagen wrote: > I think that flushing data before the crypt flag is set is a macro package > problem, so i don't think that you have to catch that bordercase. You can > consider to disable crypting when the filesize is > 0 before the first > stream is crypted. Or disabling when the first string/stream is shipped. Not yet done, but in my todo - list. Ricardo. _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 29-Mar-2001 8:37:39-GMT,2442;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA12949 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 01:37:38 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 536202B464; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 10:38:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from aleph.net.uniovi.es (aleph.net.uniovi.es [156.35.11.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2T8bcm04798 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 10:37:38 +0200 Received: from bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es (bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es [156.35.56.38]) by aleph.net.uniovi.es (PMDF V6.0-24 #45227) with ESMTP id <01K1RL5EUYMO005AC7@aleph.net.uniovi.es> for pdftex@tug.org; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 10:37:07 +0200 (MET) Received: from localhost (carmenes@localhost) by bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f2T8aNY17410; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 10:36:23 +0200 From: Ricardo Sanchez Carmenes Subject: Re: [pdftex] pdftex-pdfcrypt update In-reply-to: <3.0.6.32.20010329091423.01b18d40@server-1> X-Sender: carmenes@bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es To: Hans Hagen Cc: Heiko Oberdiek , pdftex@tug.org Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 10:36:23 +0200 (CEST) On Thu, 29 Mar 2001, Hans Hagen wrote: > I think that it should be possible to disable encryption at any moment > [temporarily] since some streams may not be compressed (and encrypted). I I'll include too this in the todo-list (but with lower priority). I'm not sure of its usefulness ... could you explain more ? Ricardo. _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 29-Mar-2001 8:58:14-GMT,3070;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA12994 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 01:45:23 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 69D392B477; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 10:45:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from aleph.net.uniovi.es (aleph.net.uniovi.es [156.35.11.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2T8i9m04862 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 10:44:10 +0200 Received: from bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es (bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es [156.35.56.38]) by aleph.net.uniovi.es (PMDF V6.0-24 #45227) with ESMTP id <01K1RLDIIG3E0059J4@aleph.net.uniovi.es> for pdftex@tug.org; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 10:43:39 +0200 (MET) Received: from localhost (carmenes@localhost) by bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f2T8gtq17565; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 10:42:55 +0200 From: Ricardo Sanchez Carmenes Subject: Re: [pdftex] pdftex-pdfcrypt update In-reply-to: <3.0.6.32.20010329095236.01b4fbe0@server-1> X-Sender: carmenes@bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es To: Hans Hagen Cc: Heiko Oberdiek , pdftex@tug.org Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 10:42:55 +0200 (CEST) On Thu, 29 Mar 2001, Hans Hagen wrote: > At 12:31 PM 3/29/01 +0200, Ricardo Sanchez Carmenes wrote: > >On Thu, 29 Mar 2001, Heiko Oberdiek wrote: > > >For testobj I'll need to parse the stuff to distinguish strings > >and streams from the rest. It's certainly more complicated to > >solve than the others, but it should be feasible. > > i suggest to just provide switched to temp disable encryption; the macro > writer knows what goes into such a steam and can take measures; this is > much simplier; parsing such content is asking for troubles Mmm. It may be a good idea, but we need to perfilate it. For example, using Oberdiek's testobj.tex sample, where would you suggest to switch on/off encryption ? \pdfcompresslevel=0 \pdfcrypt{owner = "test" user = "test" none print} \nopagenumbers \hbox{} \immediate\pdfobj{% <<% /Type /DummyTest% /TestString (FOO BAR)% /Length 11% >>% stream% HELLO WORLDendstream% } \bye Ricardo. _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 29-Mar-2001 8:58:15-GMT,3209;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA13020 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 01:53:38 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id D5CF62B458; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 10:54:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp1.xs4all.nl (smtp1.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.131]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2T8rvm04941 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 10:53:57 +0200 Received: from server-1.pragma-ade.nl (s340-isdn2760.dial.xs4all.nl [194.109.190.200]) by smtp1.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA12679; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 10:53:28 +0200 (CEST) Received: from laptop-1 (laptop-1.pragma-ade.nl [200.1.1.25]) by server-1.pragma-ade.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA08434; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 10:50:29 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20010329105012.01b52350@server-1> X-Sender: hagen@server-1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) To: Ricardo Sanchez Carmenes From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: [pdftex] pdftex-pdfcrypt update Cc: Heiko Oberdiek , pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: References: <3.0.6.32.20010329091423.01b18d40@server-1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 10:50:12 +0200 At 10:36 AM 3/29/01 +0200, Ricardo Sanchez Carmenes wrote: >On Thu, 29 Mar 2001, Hans Hagen wrote: > >> I think that it should be possible to disable encryption at any moment >> [temporarily] since some streams may not be compressed (and encrypted). I > >I'll include too this in the todo-list (but with lower priority). >I'm not sure of its usefulness ... could you explain more ? one can say: \bgroup \pdfcompresslevel=0 \immediate\pdfobj .... stream ... { } \egroup to make sure that a stream object is not compressed, so \pdfencryption=0 within that group could disable encryption. That way the macro writer (who in that case has to know some bits and pieces of pdf anyway) can control the process. Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma@wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 29-Mar-2001 9:40:39-GMT,3152;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA13293 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 02:40:37 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 53C0E2AE98; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 11:41:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp9.xs4all.nl (smtp9.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.135]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2T9ewm05208 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 11:40:58 +0200 Received: from server-1.pragma-ade.nl (s340-isdn1027.dial.xs4all.nl [194.109.184.3]) by smtp9.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA06860; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 11:40:28 +0200 (CEST) Received: from laptop-1 (laptop-1.pragma-ade.nl [200.1.1.25]) by server-1.pragma-ade.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA08702; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 11:28:07 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20010329112756.01b47780@server-1> X-Sender: hagen@server-1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) To: Ricardo Sanchez Carmenes From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: [pdftex] pdftex-pdfcrypt update Cc: Heiko Oberdiek , pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: References: <3.0.6.32.20010329095236.01b4fbe0@server-1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 11:27:56 +0200 At 10:42 AM 3/29/01 +0200, Ricardo Sanchez Carmenes wrote: >For example, using Oberdiek's testobj.tex sample, where would you >suggest to switch on/off encryption ? > >\pdfcompresslevel=0 >\pdfcrypt{owner = "test" user = "test" none print} >\nopagenumbers >\hbox{} >\immediate\pdfobj{% > <<% > /Type /DummyTest% > /TestString (FOO BAR)% > /Length 11% > >>% > stream% > HELLO WORLDendstream% >} Well, i would not use such construct, even if it's permitted. The (proper) alternative is: \immediate\pdfobj stream attr {/Type /DummyTest /TestString (FOO BAR)} {HELLO WORLD} so there a local \pdfencyption=0 would inhibit stream scrambling. Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma@wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 29-Mar-2001 9:44:46-GMT,2277;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA13303 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 02:44:45 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id E64C82B480; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 11:45:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ecnwall.ecn.nl (ecnwall.ecn.nl [130.112.1.86]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2T9ibm05267 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 11:44:37 +0200 Received: from ecntex.ecn.nl (ecntex.ecn.nl [130.112.1.26]) by ecnwall.ecn.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F47B17A for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 11:44:08 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by ecntex.ecn.nl with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 11:44:08 +0200 Message-ID: <92D6AAE888CED411A16A00508BB0B827A23FE6@ecntex.ecn.nl> From: "Dok, D. van" To: "PDFTeX Mailing List (E-mail)" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Subject: [pdftex] JPG sizes Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 11:44:06 +0200 Hi, When creating JPEG files to be included in PDFs for the WWW, one should consider size. I was wondering which is better: 1) scaling down a 3000x2000 image to 1500x1000 an then saving as JPEG on a good quality setting, or 2) saving the 3000x2000 image as JPEG on a lower quality setting to match option 1)'s final filesize. Let's say for arguments sake that the document is for screen viewing, so the image is not `blown up' beyond 1500x1000. Dennis van Dok _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 29-Mar-2001 9:55:40-GMT,3030;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA13357 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 02:55:38 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id E224C2B476; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 11:56:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.bremen.pop.de (mars.hamburg.pop.de [195.222.210.104]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2T9tdm05379 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 11:55:39 +0200 Received: from uucp by mail.bremen.pop.de with local-rmail (Exim 2.02 #2) id 14iZF1-0000VQ-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 12:01:19 +0200 Received: (from uartcom@localhost) by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id LAA11809 for tug.org!pdftex; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 11:54:04 +0200 (MEST) >Received: by artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de (Smail3.2 #1) id m14iZ79-004wwRC; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 11:53:11 +0200 (MEST) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] pdftex-pdfcrypt update Message-ID: <20010329115311.X19264@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mail-Followup-To: pdftex@tug.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from carmenes@bioquimica.uniovi.es on Tue, Mar 27, 2001 at 10:13:51AM +0200 Organization: ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Strasse 8, D-28359 Bremen X-Disclaimer: The views expressed are my own and not necessarily that of my employers. Received: from artcom8 by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 11:54 MES Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 11:53:11 +0200 On 2001-03-27 10:13:51 +0200, Ricardo Sanchez Carmenes wrote: > I have updated the pdfcrypt version of pdftex to fix a problem > regarding outlines. Fixed linux binaries are available at Nice. :-) While it's nice to be able to produce _en_crypted pdfs (which will trouble your printing house), it would be equally nice to be able to _de_crypt included pdfs, i.e. include encrypted pdfs (where the only protection is the "changes not allowed" bit) in a pdf where the resulting file would not be encrypted. Best regards Martin -- http://www.tm.oneiros.de/calendar/2001/ _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 29-Mar-2001 11:08:37-GMT,2340;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA13755 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 04:08:36 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id B90BB2AE93; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 13:09:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from plane.elvenkind.com (qn-212-127-141-231.quicknet.nl [212.127.141.231]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2TB8Im05765 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 13:08:19 +0200 Received: from elvenkind.com (IDENT:taco@compass.elvenkind.com [10.10.0.6]) by plane.elvenkind.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA07882; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 13:07:28 +0200 Message-ID: <3AC317C0.90BDE8F3@elvenkind.com> From: Taco Hoekwater X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.17-21mdk i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Dok, D. van" , pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] JPG sizes References: <92D6AAE888CED411A16A00508BB0B827A23FE6@ecntex.ecn.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 13:08:48 +0200 "Dok, D. van" wrote: > > Hi, > > When creating JPEG files to be included in PDFs for the WWW, one should > consider size. I was wondering which is better: > > 1) scaling down a 3000x2000 image to 1500x1000 an then saving as JPEG on a > good quality setting, or > > 2) saving the 3000x2000 image as JPEG on a lower quality setting to match > option 1)'s final filesize. Depends a bit on the images' contents, but I generally go for 1). Why don you just try it and see what works best? -- groeten, Taco _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 29-Mar-2001 12:04:38-GMT,2205;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA13983 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 05:04:37 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id AC06D2AE82; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 14:05:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f2TC4Wm06032 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 14:04:32 +0200 Received: from remote142-15.home.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.142.15] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 14ib9i-000621-00; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 14:03:58 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.20010329130145.43efb026@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) To: Ricardo Sanchez Carmenes From: Heiko Oberdiek Subject: Re: [pdftex] pdftex-pdfcrypt update Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: References: <3.0.1.16.20010329060700.29c7d2c8@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 13:01:45 +0100 At 12:31 29.03.2001 +0200, Ricardo Sanchez Carmenes wrote: >thumbpdf calls GS. Did you check that GS is reading encypted pdf's ? Yes, and I have added a pointer to pdf_sec.ps in the readme.txt of thumbpdf. Yours sincerely Heiko _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 29-Mar-2001 12:05:11-GMT,2639;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA13996 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 05:05:10 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 0D68A2B45B; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 14:05:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f2TC4Zm06036 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 14:04:36 +0200 Received: from remote142-15.home.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.142.15] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 14ib9k-000621-00; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 14:04:00 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.20010329130616.43ef6414@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) To: Hans Hagen From: Heiko Oberdiek Subject: Re: [pdftex] pdftex-pdfcrypt update Cc: Ricardo Sanchez Carmenes , pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20010329091423.01b18d40@server-1> References: <3.0.1.16.20010329010117.3e67789e@localhost> <3.0.6.32.20010328170825.014f9150@server-1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 13:06:16 +0100 At 09:14 29.03.2001 +0200, Hans Hagen wrote: >I think that it should be possible to disable encryption at any moment >[temporarily] since some streams may not be compressed (and encrypted). I >remember having problems with streams that contain function specifiers. So, >having that backdoor of non encrypted streams (immediate stream objects) is >a good idea since it permits experimentation. I think, it is not possible to disable encryption partially. In the pdf specs 1.3 I have not found a way to implement this task. Yours sincerely Heiko _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 29-Mar-2001 12:06:41-GMT,2522;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA14003 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 05:06:40 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id E70572B462; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 14:05:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f2TC4am06038 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 14:04:36 +0200 Received: from remote142-15.home.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.142.15] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 14ib9o-000621-00; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 14:04:04 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.20010329131043.402f28ea@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) To: Hans Hagen , Ricardo Sanchez Carmenes From: Heiko Oberdiek Subject: Re: [pdftex] pdftex-pdfcrypt update Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20010329105012.01b52350@server-1> References: <3.0.6.32.20010329091423.01b18d40@server-1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 13:10:43 +0100 At 10:50 29.03.2001 +0200, Hans Hagen wrote: >one can say: > >\bgroup >\pdfcompresslevel=0 >\immediate\pdfobj .... stream ... { } >\egroup > >to make sure that a stream object is not compressed, so > >\pdfencryption=0 > >within that group could disable encryption. That way the macro writer (who >in that case has to know some bits and pieces of pdf anyway) can control >the process. And how you say AR, that this stream is not encrypted? Yours sincerely Heiko _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 29-Mar-2001 12:14:41-GMT,2794;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA14023 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 05:14:35 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id AF6442B468; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 14:05:11 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f2TC4em06044 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 14:04:40 +0200 Received: from remote142-15.home.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.142.15] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 14ib9p-000621-00; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 14:04:06 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.20010329131840.402f5ff4@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) To: Hans Hagen , Ricardo Sanchez Carmenes From: Heiko Oberdiek Subject: Re: [pdftex] pdftex-pdfcrypt update Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20010329112756.01b47780@server-1> References: <3.0.6.32.20010329095236.01b4fbe0@server-1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 13:18:40 +0100 At 11:27 29.03.2001 +0200, Hans Hagen wrote: >>\immediate\pdfobj{% >> <<% >> /Type /DummyTest% >> /TestString (FOO BAR)% >> /Length 11% >> >>% >> stream% >> HELLO WORLDendstream% >>} > >Well, i would not use such construct, even if it's permitted. The (proper) >alternative is: > >\immediate\pdfobj stream attr > {/Type /DummyTest /TestString (FOO BAR)} > {HELLO WORLD} I did not use this syntax in thumbpdf, but the first form, because of: * Space: pdfTeX inserts a lot of spaces, that are not needed, writing the stream directly can be done more compact. * Compression: compression factor can be set independent for the thumbnails. * Speed: pdfTeX does not need to compress the object stream. Yours sincerely Heiko _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 29-Mar-2001 12:26:44-GMT,2674;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA14069 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 05:26:43 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id EF58D2AE93; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 14:27:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from nina.cs.keele.ac.uk (newnina.cs.keele.ac.uk [160.5.89.78]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2TCQgm06225 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 14:26:42 +0200 Received: from hepburn.cs.keele.ac.uk ([160.5.92.186] helo=ant-roy.co.uk) by nina.cs.keele.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 14ibVC-0005vf-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 13:26:10 +0100 Message-ID: <3AC329A9.2030009@ant-roy.co.uk> From: Anthony Roy Reply-To: work@ant-roy.co.uk User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; 0.8.1) Gecko/20010323 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [pdftex] Hyperref bug? Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 13:25:13 +0100 Hi all, I have been using the hyperref package [2000/03/22 v6.70] for hypertext links with PDFLaTeX for some time, but have today come across a problem I hadn't previously come accross. When specifying a \href{?}{?} command to link to an external document, the link appears in cyan, *despite* the fact that I have urlcolor={blue} as an option in a \hypersetup command. ("blue" is a preset color I use, defined as: \definecolor{blue}{rgb}{0,0,1} ) Note that I also have set linkcolor and citecolor to the same value - blue - and these work just fine. Is this a bug in the hyperref package? If so is there a patch or workaround for the problem? Cheers, -- Anthony J. Roy Dept. of Computer Science, Keele University, ST5 5BG, UK. e-mail: work@ant-roy.co.uk web : http://www.ant-roy.co.uk/research/ Tel : +44 1782 583438 Fax : +44 1782 713082 _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 29-Mar-2001 13:11:39-GMT,3232;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA14317 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 06:11:38 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 5F4262AE82; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 15:12:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp8.xs4all.nl (smtp8.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.134]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2TDBHm06446 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 15:11:17 +0200 Received: from server-1.pragma-ade.nl (s340-isdn1584.dial.xs4all.nl [194.109.186.48]) by smtp8.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA27846; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 15:10:47 +0200 (CEST) Received: from laptop-1 (laptop-1.pragma-ade.nl [200.1.1.25]) by server-1.pragma-ade.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA09629; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 15:08:30 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20010329150150.01589a70@server-1> X-Sender: hagen@server-1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) To: Heiko Oberdiek From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: [pdftex] pdftex-pdfcrypt update Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.16.20010329131043.402f28ea@localhost> References: <3.0.6.32.20010329105012.01b52350@server-1> <3.0.6.32.20010329091423.01b18d40@server-1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 15:01:50 +0200 At 01:10 PM 3/29/01 +0100, you wrote: >At 10:50 29.03.2001 +0200, Hans Hagen wrote: >>one can say: >> >>\bgroup >>\pdfcompresslevel=0 >>\immediate\pdfobj .... stream ... { } >>\egroup >> >>to make sure that a stream object is not compressed, so >> >>\pdfencryption=0 >> >>within that group could disable encryption. That way the macro writer (who >>in that case has to know some bits and pieces of pdf anyway) can control >>the process. > >And how you say AR, that this stream is not encrypted? Well, the =0 is only needed as an escape for when acrobat needs an unencrypted one in an encrypted doc. Just to be sure, like we need ot be sure with compressed streams. This way we have all options open. Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma@wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 29-Mar-2001 13:12:20-GMT,3666;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA14322 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 06:12:19 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id A96E82B450; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 15:12:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp8.xs4all.nl (smtp8.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.134]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2TDBIm06450 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 15:11:18 +0200 Received: from server-1.pragma-ade.nl (s340-isdn1584.dial.xs4all.nl [194.109.186.48]) by smtp8.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA27863; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 15:10:48 +0200 (CEST) Received: from laptop-1 (laptop-1.pragma-ade.nl [200.1.1.25]) by server-1.pragma-ade.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA09630; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 15:08:30 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20010329150401.0158a100@server-1> X-Sender: hagen@server-1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) To: Heiko Oberdiek From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: [pdftex] pdftex-pdfcrypt update Cc: Ricardo Sanchez Carmenes , pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.16.20010329131840.402f5ff4@localhost> References: <3.0.6.32.20010329112756.01b47780@server-1> <3.0.6.32.20010329095236.01b4fbe0@server-1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 15:04:01 +0200 At 01:18 PM 3/29/01 +0100, Heiko Oberdiek wrote: >At 11:27 29.03.2001 +0200, Hans Hagen wrote: >>>\immediate\pdfobj{% >>> <<% >>> /Type /DummyTest% >>> /TestString (FOO BAR)% >>> /Length 11% >>> >>% >>> stream% >>> HELLO WORLDendstream% >>>} >> >>Well, i would not use such construct, even if it's permitted. The (proper) >>alternative is: >> >>\immediate\pdfobj stream attr >> {/Type /DummyTest /TestString (FOO BAR)} >> {HELLO WORLD} > >I did not use this syntax in thumbpdf, but the first >form, because of: > >* Space: pdfTeX inserts a lot of spaces, that are not needed, > writing the stream directly can be done more compact. there are some rule with regards to stream/endstream placement also, the overhead is minimal compared to teh already large overhead of any object / annot (or tex overhead in general since tex does kerning) >* Compression: compression factor can be set independent > for the thumbnails. that can still be done this way >* Speed: pdfTeX does not need to compress the object stream. neglectable compared to macro expansion -) Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma@wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 29-Mar-2001 13:55:38-GMT,3118;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA14562 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 06:55:37 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 509462AE8B; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 15:56:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from nova.kettering.edu (nova.kettering.edu [192.138.137.2]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2TDtlm06690 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 15:55:49 +0200 Received: from gaspra.kettering.edu (IDENT:root@gaspra.kettering.edu [198.110.4.97]) by nova.kettering.edu (8.10.1/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f2TDtEo05708 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 08:55:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (IDENT:mwicks@localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gaspra.kettering.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA04396 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 08:55:18 -0500 From: "Mark A. Wicks" To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] pdftex-pdfcrypt update In-Reply-To: <20010329115311.X19264@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by tug.daimi.au.dk id f2TDtlm06690 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 08:55:18 -0500 (EST) On Thu, 29 Mar 2001, [iso-8859-1] Martin Schröder wrote: > While it's nice to be able to produce _en_crypted pdfs (which > will trouble your printing house), it would be equally nice to be > able to _de_crypt included pdfs, i.e. include encrypted pdfs > (where the only protection is the "changes not allowed" bit) in a > pdf where the resulting file would not be encrypted. I hope that authors of PDF tools will respect the integrity of encrypted PDFs. Don't you think that pasting a piece of a document or defeating the encryption on a document would be considered to be a "change"? The original author of the document (the person who owns the copyright) chose to encrypt to protect it. That protection should be respected and not removed or bypassed. The method of document protection described in the PDF specification *requires* that authors of PDF tools respect the flags in the document such as "not printable" and "not modifiable". After all, if these flags are easy to defeat, what's the point of encrypting your own documents? _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 29-Mar-2001 14:35:37-GMT,3637;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA14881 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 07:35:36 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id DA4C02AE82; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 16:36:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.bremen.pop.de (mars.hamburg.pop.de [195.222.210.104]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2TEZsm06910 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 16:35:54 +0200 Received: from uucp by mail.bremen.pop.de with local-rmail (Exim 2.02 #2) id 14idcD-0003N4-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 16:41:33 +0200 Received: (from uartcom@localhost) by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id QAA15081 for tug.org!pdftex; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 16:33:05 +0200 (MEST) >Received: by artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de (Smail3.2 #1) id m14idTJ-004wwRC; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 16:32:21 +0200 (MEST) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] pdftex-pdfcrypt update Message-ID: <20010329163221.B19264@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mail-Followup-To: pdftex@tug.org References: <20010329115311.X19264@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from mwicks@kettering.edu on Thu, Mar 29, 2001 at 08:55:18AM -0500 Organization: ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Strasse 8, D-28359 Bremen X-Disclaimer: The views expressed are my own and not necessarily that of my employers. Received: from artcom8 by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 16:33 MES Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 16:32:21 +0200 On 2001-03-29 08:55:18 -0500, Mark A. Wicks wrote: > I hope that authors of PDF tools will respect the integrity of > encrypted PDFs. Don't you think that pasting a piece of a document or > defeating the encryption on a document would be considered to be a > "change"? Yes. > The original author of the document (the person who owns the > copyright) chose to encrypt to protect it. He encrypted it. I doubt that most authors who do this know what they are doing. > That protection should be > respected and not removed or bypassed. The method of document protection > described in the PDF specification *requires* that authors of PDF tools > respect the flags in the document such as "not printable" and "not > modifiable". After all, if these flags are easy to defeat, what's the > point of encrypting your own documents? Encrypted (not modifiable) documents are a problem for pdf-based imposition software (some simply ignore them); not printable documents are simply "damaged" when they arrive in a printing house. Best regards Martin -- http://www.tm.oneiros.de/calendar/2001/ _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 29-Mar-2001 15:17:30-GMT,2609;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA15493 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 08:17:29 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id AD5762B456; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 17:17:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail2.ox.ac.uk [163.1.2.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2TFGxm07221 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 17:16:59 +0200 Received: from heraldgate2.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.50] helo=frontend2.herald.ox.ac.uk ident=exim) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 14ieA2-0000ql-00; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 16:16:30 +0100 Received: from spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.15.17]) by frontend2.herald.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 14ieA2-00073I-00; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 16:16:30 +0100 From: Sebastian Rahtz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15043.20960.460479.409254@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> To: work@ant-roy.co.uk Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] Hyperref bug? In-Reply-To: <3AC329A9.2030009@ant-roy.co.uk> References: <3AC329A9.2030009@ant-roy.co.uk> X-Mailer: VM 6.86 under Emacs 20.7.2 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 16:16:48 +0100 Anthony Roy writes: > > I have been using the hyperref package [2000/03/22 v6.70] for > hypertext links with PDFLaTeX for some time, but have today come > across a problem I hadn't previously come accross. When specifying a > \href{?}{?} command to link to an external document, the link appears > in cyan, *despite* the fact that I have urlcolor={blue} as an option > in a \hypersetup command. ("blue" is a preset color I use, defined as: > \definecolor{blue}{rgb}{0,0,1} what is the link? hyperref may be cleverer than you think about deciding what sort of URL it is... sebastian _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 29-Mar-2001 16:27:38-GMT,2391;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA16561 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 09:27:37 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 901862AE82; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 18:28:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from nina.cs.keele.ac.uk (newnina.cs.keele.ac.uk [160.5.89.78]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2TGR1m07531 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 18:27:01 +0200 Received: from hepburn.cs.keele.ac.uk ([160.5.92.186] helo=ant-roy.co.uk) by nina.cs.keele.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 14ifFo-00078r-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 17:26:32 +0100 Message-ID: <3AC361FF.7050206@ant-roy.co.uk> From: Anthony Roy Reply-To: work@ant-roy.co.uk User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; 0.8.1) Gecko/20010323 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex Subject: Re: [pdftex] Hyperref bug? References: <3AC329A9.2030009@ant-roy.co.uk> <15043.20960.460479.409254@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 17:25:35 +0100 > what is the link? hyperref may be cleverer than you think about > deciding what sort of URL it is... Doh! Yes you are right Sebastian - hyperref is too clever for me ;-) It was a link to a local pdf file, so Patricks suggestion to set filecolor has worked a treat. Cheers guys! -- Anthony J. Roy Dept. of Computer Science, Keele University, ST5 5BG, UK. e-mail: work@ant-roy.co.uk web : http://www.ant-roy.co.uk/research/ Tel : +44 1782 583438 Fax : +44 1782 713082 _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 29-Mar-2001 17:22:37-GMT,2173;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA17840 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 10:22:36 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 49E712AE8F; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 19:23:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from qlink.queensu.ca (Qlink.QueensU.CA [130.15.129.2]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2THMrm07810 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 19:22:54 +0200 Received: from user.qlink.queensu.ca (qlink-ppp150.tele.QueensU.CA [130.15.245.150]) by qlink.queensu.ca (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f2THMK200842 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 12:22:21 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010329113701.00a84600@qlink.queensu.ca> X-Sender: 4am32@qlink.queensu.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 To: pdftex@tug.org From: Andrew Mark <4am32@qlink.queensu.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: [pdftex] No clipping?? Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 12:21:27 -0500 Hi, Is it possible to use \includegraphics with bounding box modifications like I would in latex. Right now the images appear to be placed and sized correctly but they aren't clipped and spill all over the adjoining text. Is this a pdf problem, something I'm doing wrong or is pdftex really unable to clip graphics? Unfortunately I am unable to manually modify the bounding box values in the images. -Andrew Mark _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 29-Mar-2001 17:57:37-GMT,2453;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA18597 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 10:57:36 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id D74072AE93; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 19:58:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f2THv8m07999 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 19:57:08 +0200 Received: from remote142-9.home.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.142.9] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 14igeu-0003GA-00; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 19:56:32 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.20010329195632.441f1c4e@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) To: Andrew Mark <4am32@qlink.queensu.ca>, pdftex@tug.org From: Heiko Oberdiek Subject: Re: [pdftex] No clipping?? In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20010329113701.00a84600@qlink.queensu.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 19:56:32 +0100 At 12:21 29.03.2001 -0500, Andrew Mark wrote: > >Is it possible to use \includegraphics with bounding box modifications like >I would in latex. Right now the images appear to be placed and sized >correctly but they aren't clipped and spill all over the adjoining text. Is >this a pdf problem, something I'm doing wrong or is pdftex really unable to >clip graphics? Unfortunately I am unable to manually modify the bounding >box values in the images. http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/pdftex.def (viewport, trim, clip are supported with pdfTeX >= 0.14) Yours sincerely Heiko _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 29-Mar-2001 18:04:41-GMT,3224;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA18713 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 11:04:40 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 027DA2AE8C; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 20:05:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de (zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.53]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2TI48m08098 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 20:04:08 +0200 Received: from zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de.kammer.uni-hannover.de (reinhard@zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.54]) by zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA11509; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 20:02:03 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de: Host reinhard@zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.54] claimed to be zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de.kammer.uni-hannover.de From: Reinhard Kotucha MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15043.30969.483227.93297@zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de> To: "Dok, D. van" Cc: pdfTeX Subject: RE: [pdftex] creating multiple versions of same document In-Reply-To: <92D6AAE888CED411A16A00508BB0B827A23FE3@ecntex.ecn.nl> References: <92D6AAE888CED411A16A00508BB0B827A23FE3@ecntex.ecn.nl> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under Emacs 20.7.2 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 20:03:37 +0200 >>>>> "Dok" == Dok, D van writes: > \iffirstpass > \openoutputfile [...] You cannot change the name of the output file from within TeX. If you really want set the name you could do this by loading a dummy file (that might be empty but must exist). pdflatex '\def\filetype{thesis-s}\input{\filetype}\input{thesis}' The empty files thesis-s.tex and thesis-p.tex must exist but all the TeX stuff is in thesis.tex. You could then use \ifthenelse in thesis.tex to find out whether \filetype is thesis-s or thesis-p. Regards, Reinhard -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Reinhard Kotucha Phone: +49-511-751355 Berggartenstr. 9 D-30419 Hannover mailto:reinhard@kammer.uni-hannover.de ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Microsoft isn't the answer. Microsoft is the question, and the answer is NO. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 29-Mar-2001 21:39:38-GMT,2799;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA22064 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 14:39:37 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id CE10A2AE8B; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 23:40:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from maxim.gbch.net (gw.gbch.net [203.24.22.66]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f2TLdDm09022 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 23:39:22 +0200 Received: (qmail 58628 invoked by uid 1001); 30 Mar 2001 07:38:22 +1000 Message-ID: X-Posted-By: GJB-Post 2.13 09-Feb-2001 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE i386 X-Location: Brisbane, Australia; 27.49841S 152.98439E X-URL: http://www.gbch.net/gjb.html X-Image-URL: http://www.gbch.net/gjb/gjb-auug048.gif X-GPG-Fingerprint: EBB2 2A92 A79D 1533 AC00 3C46 5D83 B6FB 4B04 B7D6 X-PGP-Public-Keys: http://www.gbch.net/keys.html From: Greg Black To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] pdftex-pdfcrypt update References: In-reply-to: of Thu, 29 Mar 2001 08:55:18 EST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 07:38:22 +1000 "Mark A. Wicks" wrote: | I hope that authors of PDF tools will respect the integrity of | encrypted PDFs. I hope they will treat the encryption with complete contempt. If somebody makes a document available to me in such a way that he wants me to be able to read it, then there is no reason for him to attempt to control the way I do that. If there's a reason to encrypt the document (e.g., to prevent it from falling into the hands of people not intended to read it), then it needs to be done to the entire document (e.g., with pgp or gpg). Something that can be "decrypted" by any application such as an on-screen viewer without passwords or exchange of body parts is a complete joke and only serves to irritate the legitimate readers of the document. _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 29-Mar-2001 15:11:39-GMT,3942;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA15404 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 08:11:37 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id CAC9E2AE8B; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 17:12:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp7.xs4all.nl (smtp7.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.133]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2TFBhm07118 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 17:11:43 +0200 Received: from server-1.pragma-ade.nl (s340-isdn1455.dial.xs4all.nl [194.109.185.175]) by smtp7.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA25382; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 17:11:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: from laptop-1 (laptop-1.pragma-ade.nl [200.1.1.25]) by server-1.pragma-ade.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA10108; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 16:57:01 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20010329165638.009c9a80@server-1> X-Sender: hagen@server-1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) To: "Mark A. Wicks" From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: [pdftex] pdftex-pdfcrypt update Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: References: <20010329115311.X19264@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.daimi.au.dk id f2TFBhm07118 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 16:56:38 +0200 At 08:55 AM 3/29/01 -0500, Mark A. Wicks wrote: > >On Thu, 29 Mar 2001, [iso-8859-1] Martin Schröder wrote: > >> While it's nice to be able to produce _en_crypted pdfs (which >> will trouble your printing house), it would be equally nice to be >> able to _de_crypt included pdfs, i.e. include encrypted pdfs >> (where the only protection is the "changes not allowed" bit) in a >> pdf where the resulting file would not be encrypted. > > I hope that authors of PDF tools will respect the integrity of >encrypted PDFs. Don't you think that pasting a piece of a document or >defeating the encryption on a document would be considered to be a >"change"? The original author of the document (the person who owns the >copyright) chose to encrypt to protect it. That protection should be >respected and not removed or bypassed. The method of document protection >described in the PDF specification *requires* that authors of PDF tools >respect the flags in the document such as "not printable" and "not >modifiable". After all, if these flags are easy to defeat, what's the >point of encrypting your own documents? In that case, the flags alone would have been enough, since any additional scrambling somehow violates the document and makes it less portable. [I can imagine that some archeologist wants to read the pdf of rosette some day in the future and hacking passwords is no fun then] Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma@wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 29-Mar-2001 15:12:43-GMT,3257;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA15421 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 08:12:42 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id E7AAA2AE93; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 17:13:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from gs231.sp.cs.cmu.edu (GS231.SP.CS.CMU.EDU [128.2.194.105]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f2TFCYm07187 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 17:12:34 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15043.20629.898039.926970@gs231.sp.cs.cmu.edu> From: Patrick Riley To: work@ant-roy.co.uk Cc: pdftex Subject: [pdftex] Hyperref bug? In-Reply-To: <3AC329A9.2030009@ant-roy.co.uk> References: <3AC329A9.2030009@ant-roy.co.uk> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 10:11:17 -0500 Anthony, There are several hyperref options which affect colors. I suspect that you need to set 'filecolor' (which affects URLs for local files). A complete list of the options for hyperref for PDF can be found in Sebastian Rahtz's document "Hypertext marks in LaTeX: the hyperref package" (which I can't currently locate a URL for :-( HTH Anthony Roy writes > Hi all, > > I have been using the hyperref package [2000/03/22 v6.70] for > hypertext links with PDFLaTeX for some time, but have today come > across a problem I hadn't previously come accross. When specifying a > \href{?}{?} command to link to an external document, the link appears > in cyan, *despite* the fact that I have urlcolor={blue} as an option > in a \hypersetup command. ("blue" is a preset color I use, defined as: > \definecolor{blue}{rgb}{0,0,1} > ) > > Note that I also have set linkcolor and citecolor to the same value - > blue - and these work just fine. > > Is this a bug in the hyperref package? If so is there a patch or > workaround for the problem? > > Cheers, > > -- > Anthony J. Roy > > Dept. of Computer Science, > Keele University, ST5 5BG, UK. > > e-mail: work@ant-roy.co.uk > web : http://www.ant-roy.co.uk/research/ > Tel : +44 1782 583438 > Fax : +44 1782 713082 > > _______________________________________________ > pdftex mailing list > pdftex@tug.org > http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex -- Pat Riley Second Year Ph.D. Student Computer Science Department, Carnegie Mellon University _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 31-Mar-2001 11:37:38-GMT,2826;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA14327 for ; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 04:37:36 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 249D62B454; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 13:38:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from aleph.net.uniovi.es (aleph.net.uniovi.es [156.35.11.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2VBbXm17804 for ; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 13:37:33 +0200 Received: from bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es (bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es [156.35.56.38]) by aleph.net.uniovi.es (PMDF V6.0-24 #45227) with ESMTP id <01K1UK15FZVI006UYO@aleph.net.uniovi.es> for pdftex@tug.org; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 13:37:01 +0200 (MET) Received: from localhost (carmenes@localhost) by bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f2VBaKc32505; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 13:36:20 +0200 From: Ricardo Sanchez Carmenes Subject: Re: [pdftex] pdftex-pdfcrypt update In-reply-to: <3.0.6.32.20010329150401.0158a100@server-1> X-Sender: carmenes@bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es To: Hans Hagen Cc: Heiko Oberdiek , pdftex@tug.org Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 13:36:20 +0200 (CEST) On Thu, 29 Mar 2001, Hans Hagen wrote: > >>Well, i would not use such construct, even if it's permitted. The (proper) > >>alternative is: > >> > >>\immediate\pdfobj stream attr > >> {/Type /DummyTest /TestString (FOO BAR)} > >> {HELLO WORLD} > > > >I did not use this syntax in thumbpdf, but the first > >form, because of: > > > > etc... > > etc... This discussion is interesting, but regarding encryption, I think that both approaches can be supported. As I use thumbpdf and it makes use of the "no-so-proper" approach, it was important for me to do so. The update of 31/03/2001 in should work with both, but some real tests would be necessary. Regards, Ricardo. _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 31-Mar-2001 11:48:38-GMT,3347;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA14380 for ; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 04:48:37 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id F31D12B44A; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 13:49:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from aleph.net.uniovi.es (aleph.net.uniovi.es [156.35.11.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2VBmCm17884 for ; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 13:48:12 +0200 Received: from bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es (bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es [156.35.56.38]) by aleph.net.uniovi.es (PMDF V6.0-24 #45227) with ESMTP id <01K1UKEDCCXG006BGJ@aleph.net.uniovi.es> for pdftex@tug.org; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 13:47:41 +0200 (MET) Received: from localhost (carmenes@localhost) by bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f2VBl0Y32659; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 13:47:00 +0200 From: Ricardo Sanchez Carmenes Subject: Re: [pdftex] pdftex-pdfcrypt update In-reply-to: <3.0.6.32.20010329150150.01589a70@server-1> X-Sender: carmenes@bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es To: Hans Hagen Cc: Heiko Oberdiek , pdftex@tug.org Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 13:47:00 +0200 (CEST) On Thu, 29 Mar 2001, Hans Hagen wrote: > >>\pdfencryption=0 > > > >And how you say AR, that this stream is not encrypted? > > Well, the =0 is only needed as an escape for when acrobat needs an > unencrypted one in an encrypted doc. Just to be sure, like we need ot be > sure with compressed streams. This way we have all options open. Well, reading back the PDF specs, it seems that this is currently no accepted. It would be nice, because this would allow to create docs with e.g. annotations that are encrypted while the rest is not (a must for quizes where you provide the solutions, but don't make them available until you release the password). If any of you have a good communication with Adobe, you can suggest them the idea ... but for now, this feature is missing. Anyway, the day Adobe makes encryption switchable, they will need to add something more to flag which stream/string is encrypted and which is not, and we will need to update pdftex anyway to support it (as well as the corresponding macro packages). Therefore, my opinion is that including switchable encryption right now would be useless and missleading, and pdftex should not support it until it is supported by the PDF specs. Regards, Ricardo. _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 31-Mar-2001 12:09:37-GMT,3371;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA14464 for ; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 05:09:36 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 8FD152B45B; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 14:10:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from aleph.net.uniovi.es (aleph.net.uniovi.es [156.35.11.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2VC91m17995 for ; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 14:09:02 +0200 Received: from bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es (bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es [156.35.56.38]) by aleph.net.uniovi.es (PMDF V6.0-24 #45227) with ESMTP id <01K1UL47FM7U006UYO@aleph.net.uniovi.es> for pdftex@tug.org; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 14:08:31 +0200 (MET) Received: from localhost (carmenes@localhost) by bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f2VC7oT00717 for ; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 14:07:50 +0200 From: Ricardo Sanchez Carmenes Subject: Re: [pdftex] pdftex-pdfcrypt update In-reply-to: X-Sender: carmenes@bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es To: pdftex@tug.org Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 14:07:50 +0200 (CEST) On Fri, 30 Mar 2001, Greg Black wrote: > "Mark A. Wicks" wrote: > > | I hope that authors of PDF tools will respect the integrity of > | encrypted PDFs. > > I hope they will treat the encryption with complete contempt. > If somebody makes a document available to me in such a way that > he wants me to be able to read it, then there is no reason for > him to attempt to control the way I do that. Unfortunatelly, this is an issue that will only rely on final users. Programs already exist that ignore the permission flag, and you don't need sophistated tools nor skills for that. The permission flag only works with PDF reader programs that make use of it, which is the case of the Acrobat Reader and xpdf. Since these are the most widely used PDF readers, we can asum that "most" (computer unskilled) final users will only make use of the doc as their author wanted. But there is no way to prevent more skilled computer users to overcome the flags. You don't need knowledge of encryption for that because the use of the flags is made by PDF readers _after_ the PDF file has been decrypted with the provided PW. The only reasonable way to avoid this people to modify/print etc your doc, is not to provide him neither password. And all that said, this is not really related to pdftex. Regards, Ricardo. _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 31-Mar-2001 12:29:36-GMT,2675;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA14541 for ; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 05:29:35 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id C9CDE2AE8C; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 14:30:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from aleph.net.uniovi.es (aleph.net.uniovi.es [156.35.11.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2VCTmm18118 for ; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 14:29:48 +0200 Received: from bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es (bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es [156.35.56.38]) by aleph.net.uniovi.es (PMDF V6.0-24 #45227) with ESMTP id <01K1ULTYMGK8006UYO@aleph.net.uniovi.es> for pdftex@tug.org; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 14:29:16 +0200 (MET) Received: from localhost (carmenes@localhost) by bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f2VCSa901232 for ; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 14:28:36 +0200 From: Ricardo Sanchez Carmenes X-Sender: carmenes@bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es To: pdftex@tug.org Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: [pdftex] pdftex-pdfcrypt update 31/03 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 14:28:36 +0200 (CEST) The pdfcrypt version of pdftex has been updated: 31/03/2001 a number of bugs, mainly shown by Heiko Oberdiek, fixed: * outlines in octal * url * jpg image * pdf image * \pdfobj * pdfthumb (same as \pdfobj) behaviour of \pdfcrypt succesive calls modified; \pdfcrypt disabled when the first object is shipped. The updated linux binaries are available at . A sample TeX file (testall.tex) and the resulting pdf (testall.pdf) are also in the ftp site. They contain samples of buggy features that have been solved (hopefully). Regards, Ricardo. _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 31-Mar-2001 17:45:36-GMT,2676;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA16265 for ; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 10:45:35 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id D0B462B463; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 19:46:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from dobit2.rug.ac.be (dobit2.rug.ac.be [157.193.42.8]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2VHjrm19161 for ; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 19:45:54 +0200 Received: from eduserv2.rug.ac.be (eduserv2.rug.ac.be [157.193.40.10]) by dobit2.rug.ac.be (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2VHjMr24276; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 19:45:22 +0200 (MEST) Received: from localhost (fcorneli@localhost) by eduserv2.rug.ac.be (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA27839; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 19:45:21 +0200 (MET DST) From: Frank Cornelis To: pdftex@tug.org Cc: Frank.Cornelis@rug.ac.be Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [pdftex] TeTeX: pdflatex Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 19:45:20 +0200 (MET DST) Hi, I'm using the teTeX distribution that comes with RedHat 7.0. But, when I use pdflatex together with the color package I sometimes get half colored pages when I did put the color back to black. Example: \documentclass ... ... \usepackage{color} ... \color{blue} int main () { // intel alike source code formatting using blue ... } \color{black} ... this should be in black, but sometimes appears in blue ... \end{document} Some parts of my docs appear in blue when I did ask for black. Has this bug been detected by anyone else? Has is been fixed in later distributions of teTeX? When I use latex followed by dvips then the problem doesn't appear to me. But of course, I _need_ a pdf file. Please don't tell me about ps2pdf. That tool does make my pdf's look bad. You can contact me at Frank.Cornelis@rug.ac.be Frank. _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 31-Mar-2001 20:10:37-GMT,2711;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA17112 for ; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 13:10:36 -0700 (MST) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 5055C2B466; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 22:11:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f2VKAYm19691 for ; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 22:10:34 +0200 Received: from remote142-180.home.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.142.180] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 14jRhB-0005y7-00; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 22:10:01 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.20010331215905.3e071228@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) To: Frank Cornelis , pdftex@tug.org From: Heiko Oberdiek Subject: Re: [pdftex] TeTeX: pdflatex In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 21:59:05 +0100 At 19:45 31.03.2001 +0200, Frank Cornelis wrote: > >I'm using the teTeX distribution that comes with RedHat 7.0. But, when I >use pdflatex together with the color package I sometimes get half colored >pages when I did put the color back to black. Example: > >\documentclass ... >... >\usepackage{color} >... >\color{blue} > int main () { // intel alike source code formatting using blue > ... > } >\color{black} >... this should be in black, but sometimes appears in >blue ... >\end{document} > >Some parts of my docs appear in blue when I did >ask for black. Has this bug been detected by anyone else? You have not provided a minimal example, so I cannot say the cause. Perhaps the reason is the missing color stack of pdfTeX, then you can try package "pdfcolmk", available on CTAN. Yours sincerely Heiko _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex