1-Apr-2001 16:46:35-GMT,2873;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA23985 for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 10:46:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 41ECD2B472; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 18:47:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from web11905.mail.yahoo.com (web11905.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.172.189]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f31Gk5m29209 for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 18:46:06 +0200 Message-ID: <20010401164534.24554.qmail@web11905.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [212.22.34.72] by web11905.mail.yahoo.com; Sun, 01 Apr 2001 18:45:34 CEST From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Daniel=20Garcia?= To: pdftex@tug.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: [pdftex] (no subject) Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 18:45:34 +0200 (CEST) Maybe someone has asked this beforewards, but I couldn't find the answer. I was taking a look at the web just to see the prices of ec type1 fonts and I found in http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/nonfree/systems/win32/bakoma/dst/fonts.html#cmfonts : The font pack includes 652 fonts: 325 in T1 TeX Encoding (EC fonts ) and 237 in TS1 TeX Encoding (TC fonts ). The fonts are optimized for embedding into PDF. The main feature is that flexes are replaced with stright lines. This feature reduces font size and look good enought both on display and on medium resulution printers. When I read this it came to my mind if the quality of the cm type1 fonts (public ones) is the same as the quality of the mf equivalents. I know that this fonts are made with metapost but with man's intervention, does it mean that the shapes are not exactly the same?, Why can not we use directly the output of metapost?. Once I heard that the ec fonts are better than the cm ones , not just because of the hypenation and that the accents are included, something about ¿kerning?, Is that right. Thank you _______________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Envía mensajes instantáneos y recibe alertas de correo con Yahoo! Messenger - http://messenger.yahoo.es _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 2-Apr-2001 9:32:35-GMT,6720;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA01112 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 03:32:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 4183D2B44F; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 11:33:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f329W4m00770 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 11:32:04 +0200 Received: from remote142-9.home.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.142.9] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 14k0gL-00057T-00; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 11:31:30 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.20010402112918.08b7b390@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) To: Ricardo Sanchez Carmenes , pdftex@tug.org From: Heiko Oberdiek Subject: Re: [pdftex] pdftex-pdfcrypt update 31/03 In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 11:29:18 +0200 At 14:28 31.03.2001 +0200, Ricardo Sanchez Carmenes wrote: > >The pdfcrypt version of pdftex has been updated: > >31/03/2001 a number of bugs, mainly shown by Heiko Oberdiek, fixed: What will be the result of the discussion about the syntax of the \pdfcrypt primitive? For testing, I have written a LaTeX package for support of the new \pdfcrypt primitive: %%% cut %%% pdfcrypt.sty %%% cut %%% % File: pdfcrypt.sty % Version: 2001/04/02 v0.1 % Author: Heiko Oberdiek % Email: % % Copyright: Copyright (C) 2001 Heiko Oberdiek. % % This program may be distributed and/or modified under % the conditions of the LaTeX Project Public License, % either version 1.2 of this license or (at your option) % any later version. The latest version of this license % is in % http://www.latex-project.org/lppl.txt % and version 1.2 or later is part of all distributions % of LaTeX version 1999/12/01 or later. % % Function: This package provides an interface to the new % pdfTeX primitive \pdfcrypt, implemented by % Ricardo Sanchez Carmenes . % % Required: pdfTeX-0.14h-pdfcrypt-20010310, pdfcrypt-20010331 % % Use: The options can be set as package options or % in the command \pdfcryptsetup: % owner=OwnerPassword % user=UserPassword % print, copy, edit, annotate=true, false % all, none % Example: % \usepackage[owner=Donald,user=Knuth,none,print]{pdfcrypt} % % History: 2001/04/02 v0.1: % First public version, published in the pdftex % mailing list for testing with pdfcrypt-20010331 \ProvidesPackage{pdfcrypt}% [2001/04/02 v0.1 Interface for setting pdf encryption (HO)] \typeout{*********************************************************} \typeout{* Caution: This is a test version for pdfcrypt-20010331 *} \typeout{*********************************************************} \begingroup\expandafter\expandafter\expandafter\endgroup \expandafter\ifx\csname pdfcrypt\endcsname\relax \PackageError{pdfcrypt}{% PDF encryption is not supported% }{% You need pdfTeX 3.14159-14h-pdfcrypt-20010310 or higher.% }% \expandafter\endinput \fi \RequirePackage{keyval} \newif\ifpc@print \newif\ifpc@copy \newif\ifpc@edit \newif\ifpc@annotate \let\pc@owner\@empty \let\pc@user\@empty \edef\pc@temp{\catcode`\noexpand\"=\the\catcode`\"\relax} \@makeother\" \def\pc@set{% \pdfcrypt{% owner "\pc@owner" user "\pc@user" \ifpc@print \else no\fi print \ifpc@copy \else no\fi copy \ifpc@edit \else no\fi edit \ifpc@annotate\else no\fi annotate% }% } \pc@temp \def\pc@boolkey{\@dblarg\pc@@boolkey} \def\pc@@boolkey[#1]#2#3{% \lowercase{\def\pc@temp{#3}}% \ifx\pc@temp\@empty \let\pc@temp\pc@true \fi \ifx\pc@temp\pc@true \else \ifx\pc@temp\pc@false \else \let\pc@temp\relax \fi \fi \ifx\pc@temp\relax \PackageWarning{pdfcrypt}{% Unexpected value \string`#3\string' of option \string`#2\string'\MessageBreak instead of \string`true\string' or \string`false\string'% }% \else \csname pc@#2\pc@temp\endcsname \fi } \def\pc@true{true} \def\pc@false{false} \define@key{pc}{print}[true]{% \pc@boolkey{print}{#1}% } \define@key{pc}{copy}[true]{% \pc@boolkey{copy}{#1}% } \define@key{pc}{edit}[true]{% \pc@boolkey{edit}{#1}% } \define@key{pc}{annotate}[true]{% \pc@boolkey{annotate}{#1}% } \define@key{pc}{all}[]{% \pc@boolkey{print}{true}% \pc@boolkey{copy}{true}% \pc@boolkey{edit}{true}% \pc@boolkey{annotate}{true}% } \define@key{pc}{none}[]{% \pc@boolkey{print}{false}% \pc@boolkey{copy}{false}% \pc@boolkey{edit}{false}% \pc@boolkey{annotate}{false}% } \define@key{pc}{owner}{% \def\pc@owner{#1}% } \define@key{pc}{user}{% \def\pc@user{#1}% } \newcommand*{\pdfcryptsetup}[1]{% \setkeys{pc}{#1}% \pc@set } % support of configuration file \let\pc@ExecuteOptions\ExecuteOptions \InputIfFileExists{pdfcrypt.cfg}{}{} \let\ExecuteOptions\pc@ExecuteOptions % process global and local options \def\pc@ProcessOptionsWithKV{% \let\pc@temp\@empty \@for\CurrentOption:=\@classoptionslist\do{% \@ifundefined{KV@pc@\CurrentOption}{}{% \edef\pc@temp{\pc@temp,\CurrentOption,}% \@expandtwoargs\@removeelement\CurrentOption \@unusedoptionlist\@unusedoptionlist }% }% \edef\pc@temp{% \noexpand\pdfcryptsetup{% \pc@temp\@ptionlist{\@currname.\@currext}% }% }% \pc@temp } \pc@ProcessOptionsWithKV \AtEndOfPackage{\let\@unprocessedoptions\relax} \endinput %%% cut %%% pdfcrypt.sty %%% cut %%% Yours sincerely Heiko _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 2-Apr-2001 9:44:37-GMT,2964;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA01205 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 03:44:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id D6ECB2B468; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 11:45:00 +0200 (CEST) Received: from web11908.mail.yahoo.com (web11908.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.172.192]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f329igm00880 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 11:44:42 +0200 Message-ID: <20010402094410.56859.qmail@web11908.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [212.22.34.72] by web11908.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 02 Apr 2001 11:44:10 CEST From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Daniel=20Garcia?= To: pdftex@tug.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: [pdftex] Computer Modern Fonts Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 11:44:10 +0200 (CEST) I rewrite this e-mail because I forgot to write the subject in the other e-mail. Maybe someone has asked this beforewards, but I couldn't find the answer. I was taking a look at the web just to see the prices of ec type1 fonts and I found in http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/nonfree/systems/win32/bakoma/dst/fonts.html#cmfonts : The font pack includes 652 fonts: 325 in T1 TeX Encoding (EC fonts ) and 237 in TS1 TeX Encoding (TC fonts ). The fonts are optimized for embedding into PDF. The main feature is that flexes are replaced with stright lines. This feature reduces font size and look good enought both on display and on medium resulution printers. When I read this it came to my mind if the quality of the cm type1 fonts (public ones) is the same as the quality of the mf equivalents. I know that this fonts are made with metapost but with man's intervention, does it mean that the shapes are not exactly the same?, Why can not we use directly the output of metapost?. Once I heard that the ec fonts are better than the cm ones , not just because of the hypenation and that the accents are included, something about ¿kerning?, Is that right. Thank you _______________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Envía mensajes instantáneos y recibe alertas de correo con Yahoo! Messenger - http://messenger.yahoo.es _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 2-Apr-2001 10:22:34-GMT,2658;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA01437 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 04:22:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 1BDC82B467; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 12:23:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from aleph.net.uniovi.es (aleph.net.uniovi.es [156.35.11.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f32AM3m01120 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 12:22:03 +0200 Received: from bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es (bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es [156.35.56.38]) by aleph.net.uniovi.es (PMDF V6.0-24 #45227) with ESMTP id <01K1X9Y98JFK007FQE@aleph.net.uniovi.es> for pdftex@tug.org; Mon, 02 Apr 2001 12:21:31 +0200 (MET) Received: from localhost (carmenes@localhost) by bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f32AKrM08987; Mon, 02 Apr 2001 12:20:53 +0200 From: Ricardo Sanchez Carmenes Subject: Re: [pdftex] pdftex-pdfcrypt update 31/03 In-reply-to: <3.0.1.16.20010402112918.08b7b390@localhost> X-Sender: carmenes@bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es To: Heiko Oberdiek Cc: pdftex@tug.org Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 12:20:53 +0200 (CEST) On Mon, 2 Apr 2001, Heiko Oberdiek wrote: > What will be the result of the discussion about the syntax of > the \pdfcrypt primitive? So far only Hans Hagen proposed to change the syntax of the primitive. he proposed: > I think that looking at the other pdftex primitives > > \pdfcrypt > owner {...} > user {...} > noprint > noedit This week he is attending to the defence of the thesis of Han The Thanh, and they will probably talk about this. My feeling is to leave the final word regarding the syntax to Han The Thanh. Regards, Ricardo. _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 2-Apr-2001 12:51:35-GMT,3932;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA02644 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 06:51:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 9FEBA2B460; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 14:52:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from wisbech.cl.cam.ac.uk (mta1.cl.cam.ac.uk [128.232.0.15]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f32Cpdm01961 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 14:51:39 +0200 Received: from pallas.cl.cam.ac.uk ([128.232.8.88] helo=cl.cam.ac.uk ident=rf) by wisbech.cl.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.092 #1) id 14k3nX-0007US-00; Mon, 02 Apr 2001 13:51:07 +0100 To: =?iso-8859-1?q?Daniel=20Garcia?= Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] Computer Modern Fonts In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 02 Apr 2001 11:44:10 +0200." <20010402094410.56859.qmail@web11908.mail.yahoo.com> From: Robin Fairbairns Message-Id: Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 13:51:06 +0100 > Maybe someone has asked this beforewards, but I > couldn't find the answer. I was taking a look at the > web just to see the prices of ec type1 fonts and I > found in > > .../nonfree/systems/win32/bakoma/dst/fonts.html#cmfonts > > The font pack includes 652 fonts: 325 in T1 TeX > Encoding (EC fonts ) and 237 in TS1 TeX Encoding (TC > fonts ). The fonts are optimized for > embedding into PDF. The main feature is that flexes > are replaced with stright lines. This feature reduces > font size and look good enought both on > display and on medium resulution printers. i've no idea of the quality of these fonts, since afaict, they're available only in a format for use with bakoma tex. (i've no doubt i could find someone to crack the format, but i don't have the time myself, or the inclination.) > When I read this it came to my mind if the quality of > the cm type1 fonts (public ones) is the same as the > quality of the mf equivalents. I know that this fonts > are made with metapost but with man's intervention, > does it mean that the shapes are not exactly the > same?, Why can not we use directly the output of > metapost?. the bsr/y&y/ams fonts (the ones you're presumably talking about) aren't afaik the result of metapost conversion. indeed, metapost won't even process a good proportion of metafont files, unassisted. even if it did, its output is not a type 1 font, but rather a set of more-or-less standard postscript pictures. whatever, the ams type1 fonts are extremely good, for what they are. > Once I heard that the ec fonts are better than the cm > ones , not just because of the hypenation and that the > accents are included, something about ¿kerning?, Is > that right. knuth froze the kerning information in the cm fonts pretty early, and there are some kerns that are blaringly necessary that are thereby excluded. a lot more kerning pairs are present in the current ec font set than there are in cm (even allowing for the greater number of characters in ec); this probably makes text prepared with them look better. whether this improvement would have survived malyshev's conversions to type 1 i really don't know. _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 3-Apr-2001 9:52:35-GMT,2491;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA21312 for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 03:52:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 9D68F2B461; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 11:53:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from web11902.mail.yahoo.com (web11902.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.172.186]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f339qam07148 for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 11:52:36 +0200 Message-ID: <20010403095204.35107.qmail@web11902.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [212.22.34.72] by web11902.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 03 Apr 2001 11:52:04 CEST From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Daniel=20Garcia?= Subject: Re: [pdftex] Computer Modern Fonts To: Robin Fairbairns Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 11:52:04 +0200 (CEST) --- Robin Fairbairns escribió: > > Maybe someone has asked this beforewards, but I > knuth froze the kerning information in the cm fonts > pretty early, and > there are some kerns that are blaringly necessary > that are thereby > excluded. a lot more kerning pairs are present in > the current ec font > set than there are in cm (even allowing for the > greater number of > characters in ec); this probably makes text prepared > with them look > better. I am sorry about my ignorance, but could you explain what are the kerning pairs? Thank you _______________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Envía mensajes instantáneos y recibe alertas de correo con Yahoo! Messenger - http://messenger.yahoo.es _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 3-Apr-2001 15:34:34-GMT,2782;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA24603 for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 09:34:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id CD4F72AE82; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 17:35:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from host75-150.student.udel.edu (host75-150.student.udel.edu [128.175.75.150]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f33FY4m08838 for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 17:34:04 +0200 Received: from localhost (jkitchin@localhost) by host75-150.student.udel.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f33FU4R16158 for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 11:30:04 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: host75-150.student.udel.edu: jkitchin owned process doing -bs From: John Robert Kitchin X-Sender: To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [pdftex] installation of pdftex binaries Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 11:30:03 -0400 (EDT) Hi, I have just finished building pdftex-14f. The compiling seemed to go well, and the binaries appear to work. I have them in /usr/local/pdftex2/src/texk/web2c right now. I have a couple of questions though, 1. There is no pdflatex binary, is this called by pdftex --fmt pdflatex inputfile or did I miss something? The pdflatex file on my linux box appears to be a binary. 2. I am not certain how to update the system files and which ones to update. Replacing the pdftex binary seems obvious, but there are a lot of other files in these directories. 3. If I try calling the new pdftex binary from another binary as pdftex --fmt pdflatex inputfile, I get an error message that it can't find the fmt file. 4. What is the difference between getting the binaries this way and the binaries that are in the zip file. There are only a few of those, and a few other files. I didn't find any docs on what to do with these files though. thanks, j _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 3-Apr-2001 16:21:34-GMT,2679;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA25414 for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 10:21:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 3C8FF2B465; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 18:22:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from hal.kabsi.at (charme.kabsi.at [195.202.128.72]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f33GL4m09082 for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 18:21:04 +0200 Received: from gobin (cm.med.3284842061.kabelnet.net [195.202.182.77]) by hal.kabsi.at (8.10.2/) with SMTP id f33GJx30001075138 for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 18:19:59 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <017d01c0bc59$f30869e0$4db6cac3@kabsi.at> From: "Andreas Matthias" To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Subject: [pdftex] Sequence of beads in article threads Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 18:20:07 +0200 In the following example the beads of the article thread are connected in this sequence: 1.Bead 3.Bead 2.Bead Is it possible to connect the beads in another sequence? E.g.: 1.Bead 2.Bead 3.Bead Ciao Andreas \documentclass[a4paper]{article} \begin{document} \Huge \setlength{\unitlength}{1pt} \setlength{\parindent}{0pt} \def\hori{300} \def\vert{100} \pdfthread width \hori pt height0pt depth \vert pt name {testing} \begin{picture}(\hori,\vert) \framebox(\hori,\vert){1. Bead} \end{picture} \newpage \pdfthread width \hori pt height0pt depth \vert pt name {testing} \begin{picture}(\hori,\vert) \framebox(\hori,\vert){3. Bead} \end{picture} \newpage \pdfthread width \hori pt height0pt depth \vert pt name {testing} \begin{picture}(\hori,\vert) \framebox(\hori,\vert){2. Bead} \end{picture} \end{document} _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 3-Apr-2001 16:22:04-GMT,2932;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA25437 for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 10:22:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id E20542B47A; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 18:22:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from bioserver1.biology.usu.edu (bioserver1.biology.usu.edu [129.123.16.2]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f33GLbm09086 for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 18:21:37 +0200 Received: from biology.usu.edu (bnr233.bnr.usu.edu [129.123.10.179]) by bioserver1.biology.usu.edu with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id GV3KW7FD; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 10:21:04 -0600 Message-ID: <3AC9F8AA.9ABB0215@biology.usu.edu> From: "James W. Haefner" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-22 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdfTeX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [pdftex] version confusion Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 10:22:02 -0600 Ok, I'm confused or malfunctioning... I go to ftp://ftp.cstug.cz/pub/tex/local/cstug/thanh/pdftex/ in subdir 0.14f and I see pdftex-20000525-linux.zip I go to subdir snapshots/20010126 and I see pdftex-linux-20010126.zip I expected that files with names containing dates in them will correlate in some non-monotonic way with version number, but unless I did something really wrong when I expand pdftex-linux-20010126.zip it tells me [root@bnr233 web2c]# ./pdftex This is pdfTeX, Version 3.14159-13h-pretest-20010126 (Web2C 7.3.3.1) when I expand pdftex-linux-20000525.zip it tells me: [root@bnr233 pdftex20000525]# ./pdftex This is pdfTeX, Version 3.14159-14f-released-20000525 (Web2C 7.3.2x) What (or where) is the latest version? and why do we have what strikes me as a weird naming convention? What is the significance of the different version numbers in Web2C? Do I need to update that as well? (Both versions of pdftex seem to work...) Jim -- James W. Haefner Department of Biology Email: jhaefner@biology.usu.edu Utah State University Voice: 435-797-3553 Logan, UT 84322-5305 Fax: 435-797-1575 _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 3-Apr-2001 17:35:35-GMT,4541;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA26957 for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 11:35:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 8296D2B457; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 19:36:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de (zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.53]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f33HZPm09495 for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 19:35:25 +0200 Received: from zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de.kammer.uni-hannover.de (reinhard@zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.54]) by zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA13972; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 19:33:11 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de: Host reinhard@zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.54] claimed to be zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de.kammer.uni-hannover.de From: Reinhard Kotucha MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15050.2493.128757.169931@zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de> To: John Robert Kitchin Cc: Subject: [pdftex] installation of pdftex binaries In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under Emacs 20.7.2 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 19:34:53 +0200 >>>>> "John" == John Robert Kitchin writes: > Hi, I have just finished building pdftex-14f. The compiling > seemed to go well, and the binaries appear to work. I have them > in /usr/local/pdftex2/src/texk/web2c right now. I have a couple > of questions though, Hi, I assume that you have teTeX installed. > 1. There is no pdflatex binary, is this called by pdftex --fmt > pdflatex inputfile or did I miss something? pdflatex usually is a symbolic link pointing to the pdftex binary. > The pdflatex file on my linux box appears to be a binary. I suppose that you loaded the file into an editor, but just try ls -l. > 2. I am not certain how to update the system files and which > ones to update. Replacing the pdftex binary seems obvious, but > there are a lot of other files in these directories. The only file you need beside the binary is pdftex.pool. It should go into texmf/web2c. You'll find the old one there but you need the new one. You also must update pdftex.def. Look where the old one is on your system. > 3. If I try calling the new pdftex binary from another binary > as > pdftex --fmt pdflatex inputfile, I get an error message that it > can't find the fmt file. If you have installed any new files it's always a good idea to run "texhash" to update the filename database, though it is not really necessary if you only replace files. You must then run "texconfig init" which (re)creates all the format files that are configured in texmf/web2c/fmtutil.cnf and automatically (re)creates all the symlinks in the bin directory. After that you should be able to use pdflatex. > 4. What is the difference between getting the binaries this way > and the binaries that are in the zip file. There are only a few In which zip file? Regards, Reinhard -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Reinhard Kotucha Phone: +49-511-751355 Berggartenstr. 9 D-30419 Hannover mailto:reinhard@kammer.uni-hannover.de ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Microsoft isn't the answer. Microsoft is the question, and the answer is NO. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 4-Apr-2001 7:42:34-GMT,2986;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA08395 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 01:42:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id EFF552B477; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 09:43:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ecnwall.ecn.nl (ecnwall.ecn.nl [130.112.1.86]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f347gQm12701 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 09:42:27 +0200 Received: from ecntex.ecn.nl (ecntex.ecn.nl [130.112.1.26]) by ecnwall.ecn.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 876581C4 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 09:41:49 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by ecntex.ecn.nl with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 09:41:50 +0200 Message-ID: <92D6AAE888CED411A16A00508BB0B827A23FFA@ecntex.ecn.nl> From: "Dok, D. van" To: "PDFTeX Mailing List (E-mail)" Subject: RE: [pdftex] installation of pdftex binaries MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 09:41:39 +0200 > -----Original Message----- > From: Reinhard Kotucha [mailto:reinhard@kammer.uni-hannover.de] > Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 19:35 > To: John Robert Kitchin > Cc: pdftex@tug.org > Subject: [pdftex] installation of pdftex binaries > > > >>>>> "John" == John Robert Kitchin writes: > > > Hi, I have just finished building pdftex-14f. The compiling > > seemed to go well, and the binaries appear to work. I have them > > in /usr/local/pdftex2/src/texk/web2c right now. I have a couple > > of questions though, > > Hi, I assume that you have teTeX installed. > > > 1. There is no pdflatex binary, is this called by pdftex --fmt > > pdflatex inputfile or did I miss something? > > pdflatex usually is a symbolic link pointing to the pdftex binary. > You can also make it a _hard_ link. I think this is the case with the default setup. TeX and friends look at their own name to see which format should be loaded. So if you built custom formats for, say, LaTeX, name it mylatex.fmt and create a symbolic link named mylatex pointing to the tex binary. Running mylatex will load you custom format. Dennis _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 4-Apr-2001 8:57:48-GMT,2789;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA08437 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 01:50:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 0CDEC2B480; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 09:51:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.riodata.de ([62.16.139.11]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f347ocm12796 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 09:50:38 +0200 Received: from artinet.artcom-gmbh.de (62.16.147.178) by mail.riodata.de (5.1.056) id 3A6CDD1200024499 for pdftex@tug.org; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 09:50:05 +0200 Received: (from uartcom@localhost) by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id JAA03810 for tug.org!pdftex; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 09:50:05 +0200 (MEST) >Received: by artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de (Smail3.2 #1) id m14ki2S-004wwRC; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 09:49:12 +0200 (MEST) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= To: "PDFTeX Mailing List (E-mail)" Subject: Re: [pdftex] installation of pdftex binaries Message-ID: <20010404094912.Q19264@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mail-Followup-To: "PDFTeX Mailing List (E-mail)" References: <92D6AAE888CED411A16A00508BB0B827A23FFA@ecntex.ecn.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <92D6AAE888CED411A16A00508BB0B827A23FFA@ecntex.ecn.nl>; from d.vandok@ecn.nl on Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 09:41:39AM +0200 Organization: ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Strasse 8, D-28359 Bremen X-Disclaimer: The views expressed are my own and not necessarily that of my employers. Received: from artcom8 by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 09:50 MES Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 09:49:12 +0200 On 2001-04-04 09:41:39 +0200, Dok, D. van wrote: > > pdflatex usually is a symbolic link pointing to the pdftex binary. > > > You can also make it a _hard_ link. I think this is the case with the In TeXlive pdflatex is a script calling pdfTeX. :-) Best regards Martin -- http://www.tm.oneiros.de/calendar/2001/ _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 4-Apr-2001 9:03:34-GMT,2455;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA08830 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 03:03:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id CEC152B482; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 11:04:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail4.ox.ac.uk [163.1.2.33]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f34936m13149 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 11:03:06 +0200 Received: from heraldgate2.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.50] helo=frontend2.herald.ox.ac.uk ident=exim) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 14kjBS-0004vU-00; Wed, 04 Apr 2001 10:02:34 +0100 Received: from spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.15.17]) by frontend2.herald.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 14kjBS-0005XL-00; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 10:02:34 +0100 From: Sebastian Rahtz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15050.58174.990723.903320@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> To: ms@artcom-gmbh.de Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] installation of pdftex binaries In-Reply-To: <20010404094912.Q19264@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> References: <92D6AAE888CED411A16A00508BB0B827A23FFA@ecntex.ecn.nl> <20010404094912.Q19264@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> X-Mailer: VM 6.86 under Emacs 20.7.2 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 10:02:54 +0100 =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= writes: > > You can also make it a _hard_ link. I think this is the case with the > > In TeXlive pdflatex is a script calling pdfTeX. :-) > for good reason. symlinks are treated as physical copies when you make a CD file system, so the number of copies of the "pdftex" executable gets enormous sebastian _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 4-Apr-2001 10:35:36-GMT,4223;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA09353 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 04:35:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 267F92AE82; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 12:36:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from moutvdom01.kundenserver.de (moutvdom01.kundenserver.de [195.20.224.200]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f34AZ2m13603 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 12:35:03 +0200 Received: from [195.20.224.204] (helo=mrvdom00.schlund.de) by moutvdom01.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 14kkcO-0008Mr-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 12:34:28 +0200 Received: from pd9502cf2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([217.80.44.242] helo=servus) by mrvdom00.schlund.de with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 14kkcL-0000so-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 12:34:25 +0200 From: "Ulrich Dirr" To: "pdfTeX" Subject: [PDFTeX] memory exceeded Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 12:33:16 +0200 Hi. I've changed \pdffontexpand\font 30 30 10 1000 to \pdffontexpand\font 40 40 5 1000 now I'm getting the following error message: ------------------------------------------------------------ [...] (c:/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/supp-pdf.tex (c:/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/supp-mis.tex loading : Context Support Macros / Missing ) loading : Context Support Macros / PDF ) (c:/TeX/texmf/tex/latex/!fd/ufpi.fd) (c:/TeX/texmf/tex/latex/!fd/ly1ile.fd) (./texin/tab19.tex [1{c:/TeX/texmf-var/pdftex/config/jenson.map}{c:/TeX/texmf/p dftex/config/psfonts.map}{c:/TeX/texmf/pdftex/config/lw35.map}{c:/TeX/ texmf/pdf tex/config/rawfonts.map}{c:/TeX/texmf/dvips/cspsfonts/csfontd.mapfile} ] (c:/TeX/texmf/tex/latex/!fd/uajmm.fd) (./test.ent [2] [3])) [4] [12] [160] (./test.pin [254] ! TeX capacity exceeded, sorry [PDF memory size=65536]. \item ->\par \hangindent 1cc l.137 \item Chandler, M, 10 ! ==> Fatal error occurred, the output PDF file not finished! Transcript written on test.log. ------------------------------------------------------------ My preamble looks like this: ------------------------------------------------------------ %FORMAT: LaTeX \documentclass{book} \usepackage{Test} \hyphenation{Läufer-opfer} \setlength{\overfullrule}{0.3cm} \pdfoutput=1 \pdfcompresslevel=9 \pdfpagewidth=21cm \pdfpageheight=29.7cm \input{protcode} \input{efcode} \pdfprotrudechars=2 \pdfadjustspacing=2 \def\setupfont{ \setprotcode\font \resetefcode\font \pdffontexpand\font 40 40 5 1000 } \def\setupfam{ \setupfont {\itshape\setupfont} {\scshape\setupfont} {\bfseries\setupfont} {\itshape\bfseries\setupfont} {\FigurineSerif\setupfont} {\FigurineSerifBold\setupfont} {\Sans\setprotcode\font} } \AtBeginDocument{% \setupfam {\small\setupfam} {\footnotesize\setupfam} } ------------------------------------------------------------ What's wrong? Or, how can I increase memory size (fpTeX v0.4)? Regards, Ulrich Dirr -- Art & Satz Ulrich Dirr Arnimstraße 9 81369 München Germany/Deutschland -- fon (+49 89) 743 30 60 fax (+49 89) 743 30 61 email ud@art-satz.de -- -=*:-) _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 4-Apr-2001 16:00:08-GMT,2941;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA13492 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 10:00:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 765642B454; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 18:00:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from hotmail.com (f120.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.120]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f34FxBm15235 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 17:59:11 +0200 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 08:58:38 -0700 Received: from 216.104.228.119 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 04 Apr 2001 15:58:38 GMT X-Originating-IP: [216.104.228.119] From: "Johannes Graumann" To: pdftex@tug.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Apr 2001 15:58:38.0368 (UTC) FILETIME=[1CA6F200:01C0BD20] Subject: [pdftex] weird Spanish problem Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 15:58:38 -0000 Hello, I cite some spanish in an english document, so I load \usepackage[babel]{spanish} and use \foreignlanguage{spanish}{carramba!} If I latex the file, everything works fine, but if I pdflatex it, I get the following error message: (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/hyperref/hyperref.sty (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/hyperref/pd1enc.def) ! Undefined control sequence. ...e \expandafter {\Hy@captinosspanish } l.1603 \ProcessOptionsWithKV{Hyp} ? I'm using pdfTeX (Web2C 7.3.3.1) 3.14159-0.14h-pretest-20010126. The problem did not arise with the previous snapshot. Additionally, the citation contains ">, which latexed results in the french style guillemet I'm intending, but pdflatexed results in ", followed by an inverted ?, respectively ", followed by an inverted !. This did'nt show up with the previous snapshot either. Can somebody please give me a hint what's up here? Please also answer to my email address! Thank you, Johannes _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 4-Apr-2001 17:11:33-GMT,2879;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA14914 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 11:11:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id E0B722B44A; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 19:12:00 +0200 (CEST) Received: from hal.kabsi.at (strange.kabsi.at [195.202.128.71]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f34HBcm15597 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 19:11:38 +0200 Received: from gobin (cm.med.3284842061.kabelnet.net [195.202.182.77]) by hal.kabsi.at (8.10.2/) with SMTP id f34HAmi0000995480 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 19:10:48 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <012f01c0bd2a$2d14fc40$4db6cac3@kabsi.at> From: "Andreas Matthias" To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Subject: [pdftex] threads and named identifiers Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 19:10:39 +0200 The manual says: Treads with same identifiers (spread across the document) will be joined together. But this just works using numbered identifiers ( --> num ). Using named identifiers ( --> name ) _all_ threads are joined together independent of their names. See the example below. Am I doing something wrong or is this a bug? I am using pdfTeX, Version 3.14159-14f-released-20000525 Greetings Andreas \documentclass[a4paper]{article} \begin{document} \Huge \setlength{\unitlength}{1pt} \setlength{\parindent}{0pt} \def\hori{300} \def\vert{100} \pdfthread width \hori pt height0pt depth \vert pt name {a} % num 1 % <== this works as expected \begin{picture}(\hori,\vert) \framebox(\hori,\vert){Thread A} \end{picture} \newpage % % This thread has a different name, but it is % joined to the first thread. % \pdfthread width \hori pt height0pt depth \vert pt name {b} % num 2 \begin{picture}(\hori,\vert) \framebox(\hori,\vert){Thread B} \end{picture} \end{document} _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 4-Apr-2001 17:16:35-GMT,2275;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA15003 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 11:16:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 6E7D52B461; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 19:17:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp1.libero.it (smtp1.libero.it [193.70.192.51]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f34HG1m15679 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 19:16:01 +0200 Received: from ppp-155-80 (151.30.80.155) by smtp1.libero.it (5.5.025) id 3AB48C81003B0771 for pdftex@tug.org; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 19:15:23 +0200 From: Mirko Ortolina To: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.29] Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01040419165100.00797@ppp-155-80> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: [pdftex] pdfarrange only 2 pages ... Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 19:12:26 +0200 Hi pdftex users, I was testing context /pdftex and the pdfarrange option: texexec --pdfarrange file_A.pdf file_B.pdf --result=combined.pdf It works very well but .... only the first page of the two documents is processed resulting in a combined document only 2 pages big: ------------------------------------------------- [...] figures : dimensions of ./file_A.pdf loaded from figurefile itself layout : calculating backgrounds [1.1 <./file_A.pdf>] figures : dimensions of ./file_B.pdf loaded from figurefile itself [2.2 <./file_B.pdf>] ------------------------------------------------- any idea ? Regards, Mirko _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 4-Apr-2001 21:03:33-GMT,2374;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA19251 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 15:03:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 78D172B45B; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 23:04:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from macadam.mpce.mq.edu.au (macadam.mpce.mq.edu.au [137.111.216.12]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f34L3Em16640 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 23:03:14 +0200 Received: from hera.mpce.mq.edu.au (hera.mpce.mq.edu.au [137.111.219.13]) by macadam.mpce.mq.edu.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA17989; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 07:02:50 +1000 (EST) Received: (from ross@localhost) by hera.mpce.mq.edu.au (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id HAA06891; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 07:02:48 +1000 (EST) From: Ross Moore Message-Id: <200104042102.HAA06891@hera.mpce.mq.edu.au> Subject: Re: [pdftex] weird Spanish problem In-Reply-To: from Johannes Graumann at "Apr 4, 2001 03:58:38 pm" To: Johannes Graumann Cc: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL71 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 07:02:48 +1000 (EST) > (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/hyperref/hyperref.sty > (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/hyperref/pd1enc.def) > ! Undefined control sequence. > ...e \expandafter {\Hy@captinosspanish ^^^^ This looks remarkably like a spelling error! > } > l.1603 \ProcessOptionsWithKV{Hyp} > _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 4-Apr-2001 21:47:33-GMT,2382;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA19767 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 15:47:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 4B6812AE8B; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 23:48:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f34Ll6m16866 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 23:47:06 +0200 Received: from remote142-130.home.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.142.130] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 14kv6d-0001pK-00; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 23:46:24 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.20010404234609.29c78cec@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) To: Ross Moore , Johannes Graumann From: Heiko Oberdiek Subject: Re: [pdftex] weird Spanish problem Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: <200104042102.HAA06891@hera.mpce.mq.edu.au> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 23:46:09 +0200 At 07:02 05.04.2001 +1000, Ross Moore wrote: >> (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/hyperref/hyperref.sty >> (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/hyperref/pd1enc.def) >> ! Undefined control sequence. >> ...e \expandafter {\Hy@captinosspanish > ^^^^ > This looks remarkably like a spelling error! Sigh, it _is_ a spelling error. I will fix it. Yours sincerely Heiko _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 4-Apr-2001 23:47:33-GMT,2106;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA21970 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 17:47:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 15E392AE8C; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 01:48:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f34NlWm17417 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 01:47:32 +0200 Received: from remote142-15.home.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.142.15] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 14kwzJ-0002xU-00; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 01:46:58 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.20010405010827.48ef6c6e@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) To: "Johannes Graumann" , pdftex@tug.org From: Heiko Oberdiek Subject: Re: [pdftex] weird Spanish problem In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2001 01:08:27 +0200 At 15:58 04.04.2001 -0000, Johannes Graumann wrote: > ! Undefined control sequence. > ...e \expandafter {\Hy@captinosspanish Corrected in 6.71d: http://www.tug.org/applications/hyperref/hyperref.zip Yours sincerely Heiko _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 5-Apr-2001 7:41:34-GMT,2621;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA26674 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 01:41:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 009182B44B; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 09:42:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from serv30.happysite.net ([216.109.141.40]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f357fIm19144 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 09:41:19 +0200 Received: from schlesin (schlesin.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.151]) by serv30.happysite.net (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id f357UeP18976 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 03:30:41 -0400 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20010405092756.01947140@serv30.happysite.net> X-Sender: hagen@serv30.happysite.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) To: pdftex@tug.org From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: [pdftex] weird Spanish problem In-Reply-To: <200104042102.HAA06891@hera.mpce.mq.edu.au> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2001 09:27:56 +0200 At 07:02 AM 4/5/01 +1000, Ross Moore wrote: >> (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/hyperref/hyperref.sty >> (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/hyperref/pd1enc.def) >> ! Undefined control sequence. >> ...e \expandafter {\Hy@captinosspanish > ^^^^ > This looks remarkably like a spelling error! so look many tex commands / macros since the @ is not in my dict too -) Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma@wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 5-Apr-2001 11:29:34-GMT,2553;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA28043 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 05:29:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 284912AE82; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 13:30:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f35BTQm20141 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 13:29:27 +0200 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (214@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA17468; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 13:28:49 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from sojka@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA20191; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 13:28:49 +0200 (MET DST) From: Petr Sojka To: pdfTeX List Cc: Czechoslovak TeX Message-ID: <20010405132848.J28249@informatics.muni.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i Subject: [pdftex] Han The Thanh has just got his PhD from Masaryk University Brno Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 13:28:49 +0200 Hi all, pdfTeX users, this is to let the world to know, that Han The Thanh has just defended his thesis named Macrotypographic extensions to the TeX typesetting system and will be given PhD degree from Masaryk University Brno, where he has studied since 1990 (for Masters and PhD degree). His thesis has got quite positive evaluation from DEK and people on the thesis committee: Hermann Zapf*, Richard Rubinstein, Jana Chlebikova and Hans Hagen*. Wholehearted congratulations and best wishes to his further career (he plans to return home to Vietnam)! Petr Sojka * they disowe their renumeration to Thanh for his further research and study in the area _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 5-Apr-2001 11:57:32-GMT,2861;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA28210 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 05:57:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 4119E2B456; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 13:58:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.riodata.de ([62.16.139.11]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f35Bvjm20446 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 13:57:45 +0200 Received: from artinet.artcom-gmbh.de (62.16.147.178) by mail.riodata.de (5.1.056) id 3A6CE226000227BD for pdftex@tug.org; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 13:57:06 +0200 Received: (from uartcom@localhost) by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id NAA14720 for tug.org!pdftex; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 13:57:05 +0200 (MEST) >Received: by artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de (Smail3.2 #1) id m14l8NP-004wwRC; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 13:56:35 +0200 (MEST) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= To: pdfTeX List Subject: Re: [pdftex] Han The Thanh has just got his PhD from Masaryk University Brno Message-ID: <20010405135634.B7269@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mail-Followup-To: pdfTeX List References: <20010405132848.J28249@informatics.muni.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010405132848.J28249@informatics.muni.cz>; from sojka@informatics.muni.cz on Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 01:28:49PM +0200 Organization: ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Strasse 8, D-28359 Bremen X-Disclaimer: The views expressed are my own and not necessarily that of my employers. Received: from artcom8 by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 13:57 MES Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 13:56:34 +0200 On 2001-04-05 13:28:49 +0200, Petr Sojka wrote: > this is to let the world to know, that Han The Thanh > has just defended his thesis named > Macrotypographic extensions to the TeX typesetting system > and will be given PhD degree from Masaryk University Brno, > where he has studied since 1990 (for Masters and PhD degree). Hurray! :-) Congratulations Martin -- http://www.tm.oneiros.de/calendar/2001/ _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 5-Apr-2001 13:23:33-GMT,2550;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA28828 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 07:23:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 2692E2AE98; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 15:24:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from caroubier.wanadoo.fr (smtp-rt-6.wanadoo.fr [193.252.19.160]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f35DNIm21148 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 15:23:18 +0200 Received: from antholoma.wanadoo.fr (193.252.19.153) by caroubier.wanadoo.fr; 5 Apr 2001 15:22:42 +0200 Received: from localhost.localdomain (193.249.242.112) by antholoma.wanadoo.fr; 5 Apr 2001 15:22:31 +0200 From: Michael Chapman X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Cc: Czechoslovak TeX To: pdfTeX List References: <20010405132848.J28249@informatics.muni.cz> In-Reply-To: <20010405132848.J28249@informatics.muni.cz> Subject: [pdftex] Matthias Eckermann's 'Parallel' MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01040515182801.18143@localhost.localdomain> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 15:18:28 +0200 Firstly apologies in advance if this is not 'strict' pdfTex. Am trying to set two anguage versions of a text on facing pages, so that they can be compared (i.e. each paragraph has to start (or be cented) opposite the paragraph of its translation). (For a pdfLaTex set book.) Matthias Eckermann did some useful work on 'Parallel' and implied in the documentation that he foresaw tackling some further challenges. But I've not found anything post-1997. Mail to him at Munich Uni bounces. Anyone know any other neat solutions and/or if M.E. is still working/maintaing the original package? Regards, Michael Chapman (France). _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 5-Apr-2001 13:28:39-GMT,2865;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA28879 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 07:28:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id AE43F2B45C; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 15:29:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from wisbech.cl.cam.ac.uk (mta1.cl.cam.ac.uk [128.232.0.15]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f35DSCm21244 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 15:28:12 +0200 Received: from pallas.cl.cam.ac.uk ([128.232.8.88] helo=cl.cam.ac.uk ident=rf) by wisbech.cl.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.092 #1) id 14l9nW-0003Wx-00; Thu, 05 Apr 2001 14:27:38 +0100 To: Michael Chapman Cc: pdfTeX List , Czechoslovak TeX Subject: Re: [pdftex] Matthias Eckermann's 'Parallel' In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 05 Apr 2001 15:18:28 +0200." <01040515182801.18143@localhost.localdomain> From: Robin Fairbairns Message-Id: Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2001 14:27:37 +0100 > > Firstly apologies in advance if this is not 'strict' pdfTex. you'ld reach a wider audience, probably, if you were to post to comp.text.tex for issues like this. > Am trying to set two anguage versions of a text on facing pages, so that they > can be compared (i.e. each paragraph has to start (or be cented) opposite the > paragraph of its translation). (For a pdfLaTex set book.) > > Matthias Eckermann did some useful work on 'Parallel' and implied in the > documentation that he foresaw tackling some further challenges. But I've not > found anything post-1997. Mail to him at Munich Uni bounces. > > Anyone know any other neat solutions and/or if M.E. is still > working/maintaing the original package? i've not heard anything from him. i did some derived work (for parallel 2-language texts) for a client, which appears on ctan in macros/latex/contrib/supported/nrc, but it doesn't do parallel pages either. i can see how it might be done, using the basic concepts of parallel.sty, but it's going to be somewhat challenging. _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 5-Apr-2001 13:34:31-GMT,4574;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA28925 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 07:34:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 46D212B464; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 15:34:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from moutvdom01.kundenserver.de (moutvdom01.kundenserver.de [195.20.224.200]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f35DXrm21319 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 15:33:53 +0200 Received: from [195.20.224.220] (helo=mrvdom04.kundenserver.de) by moutvdom01.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 14l9t0-0001Jn-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 15:33:18 +0200 Received: from pd9502cdd.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([217.80.44.221] helo=servus) by mrvdom04.kundenserver.de with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 14l9sr-0002RI-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 15:33:09 +0200 From: "Ulrich Dirr" To: "pdfTeX" Subject: [pdftex] TeX capacity exceeded, [PDF memory size=65536] Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 15:31:53 +0200 Maybe it wasn't delivered, so I'm sending my last mail again. I've experienced the error message now also with setting of \pdffontexpand\font 40 40 10 1000 (it depends wether I've included all files of my document (about 300 pages)). I strongly hope someone could help me with this! begin original mail: Hi. I've changed \pdffontexpand\font 30 30 10 1000 to \pdffontexpand\font 40 40 5 1000 now I'm getting the following error message: ------------------------------------------------------------ [...] (c:/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/supp-pdf.tex (c:/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/supp-mis.tex loading : Context Support Macros / Missing ) loading : Context Support Macros / PDF ) (c:/TeX/texmf/tex/latex/!fd/ufpi.fd) (c:/TeX/texmf/tex/latex/!fd/ly1ile.fd) (./texin/tab19.tex [1{c:/TeX/texmf-var/pdftex/config/jenson.map}{c:/TeX/texmf/p dftex/config/psfonts.map}{c:/TeX/texmf/pdftex/config/lw35.map}{c:/TeX/ texmf/pdf tex/config/rawfonts.map}{c:/TeX/texmf/dvips/cspsfonts/csfontd.mapfile} ] (c:/TeX/texmf/tex/latex/!fd/uajmm.fd) (./test.ent [2] [3])) [4] [12] [160] (./test.pin [254] ! TeX capacity exceeded, sorry [PDF memory size=65536]. \item ->\par \hangindent 1cc l.137 \item Chandler, M, 10 ! ==> Fatal error occurred, the output PDF file not finished! Transcript written on test.log. ------------------------------------------------------------ My preamble looks like this: ------------------------------------------------------------ %FORMAT: LaTeX \documentclass{book} \usepackage{Test} \hyphenation{Läufer-opfer} \setlength{\overfullrule}{0.3cm} \pdfoutput=1 \pdfcompresslevel=9 \pdfpagewidth=21cm \pdfpageheight=29.7cm \input{protcode} \input{efcode} \pdfprotrudechars=2 \pdfadjustspacing=2 \def\setupfont{ \setprotcode\font \resetefcode\font \pdffontexpand\font 40 40 5 1000 } \def\setupfam{ \setupfont {\itshape\setupfont} {\scshape\setupfont} {\bfseries\setupfont} {\itshape\bfseries\setupfont} {\FigurineSerif\setupfont} {\FigurineSerifBold\setupfont} {\Sans\setprotcode\font} } \AtBeginDocument{% \setupfam {\small\setupfam} {\footnotesize\setupfam} } ------------------------------------------------------------ What's wrong? Or, how can I increase memory size (fpTeX v0.4)? Regards, Ulrich Dirr -- Art & Satz Ulrich Dirr Arnimstraße 9 81369 München Germany/Deutschland -- fon (+49 89) 743 30 60 fax (+49 89) 743 30 61 email ud@art-satz.de -- -=*:-) _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 5-Apr-2001 13:41:54-GMT,2158;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA28983 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 07:41:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 8D60B2AE8B; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 15:37:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail1.ox.ac.uk [129.67.1.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f35DaWm21361 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 15:36:32 +0200 Received: from heraldgate2.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.50] helo=frontend2.herald.ox.ac.uk ident=exim) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #3) id 14l9vZ-00072X-00; Thu, 05 Apr 2001 14:35:57 +0100 Received: from spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.15.17]) by frontend2.herald.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 14l9vZ-00061h-00; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 14:35:57 +0100 From: Sebastian Rahtz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15052.29906.119334.895440@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> To: sojka@informatics.muni.cz Cc: pdftex@tug.org, csTeX@cs.felk.cvut.cz Subject: Re: [pdftex] Han The Thanh has just got his PhD from Masaryk University Brno In-Reply-To: <20010405132848.J28249@informatics.muni.cz> References: <20010405132848.J28249@informatics.muni.cz> X-Mailer: VM 6.86 under Emacs 20.7.2 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 14:36:18 +0100 well done Thanh! richly deserved.... Sebastian _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 5-Apr-2001 14:10:32-GMT,2973;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA29315 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 08:10:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 0923B2AE8C; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 16:11:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ifi.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de (ifi.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de [129.69.211.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f35EApm21628 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 16:10:52 +0200 Received: from isidor.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de (isidor [129.69.215.208]) by ifi.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de (8.9.3/2.2) with ESMTP id QAA17601; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 16:10:10 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from raichle@localhost) by isidor.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de (8.8.8/2.2) id QAA21334; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 16:10:14 +0200 (MET DST) From: Bernd Raichle MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15052.31942.82179.481744@informatik.uni-stuttgart.de> To: pdfTeX List Cc: Czechoslovak TeX Subject: Re: [pdftex] Matthias Eckermann's 'Parallel' In-Reply-To: References: <01040515182801.18143@localhost.localdomain> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under Emacs 19.34.1 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 16:10:14 +0200 (MET DST) On Thursday, 5 April 2001 14:27:37 +0100, Robin Fairbairns writes: > > > > Firstly apologies in advance if this is not 'strict' pdfTex. > > you'ld reach a wider audience, probably, if you were to post to > comp.text.tex for issues like this. > [... "parallel" package ...] > > Matthias Eckermann did some useful work on 'Parallel' and implied in the > > documentation that he foresaw tackling some further challenges. But I've not > > found anything post-1997. Mail to him at Munich Uni bounces. > > > > Anyone know any other neat solutions and/or if M.E. is still > > working/maintaing the original package? > > i've not heard anything from him. [...] Matthias Eckermann is now working for SuSE Germany (mge@suse.de) having almost no time for doing any major work on "parallel". -bernd _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 5-Apr-2001 14:34:33-GMT,2625;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA29676 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 08:34:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 08C202B456; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 16:35:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f35EYtm21810 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 16:34:55 +0200 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (0@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA08607; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 16:33:51 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA10134; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 16:22:41 +0200 (MET DST) From: Han The Thanh To: Ulrich Dirr Cc: pdfTeX Subject: Re: [pdftex] TeX capacity exceeded, [PDF memory size=65536] Message-ID: <20010405162241.D5777@anxur.fi.muni.cz> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from ud@art-satz.de on Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 03:31:53PM +0200 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 16:22:41 +0200 > I've experienced the error message now also with setting of > \pdffontexpand\font 40 40 10 1000 (it depends wether I've included all > files of my document (about 300 pages)). > > I strongly hope someone could help me with this! there are several ways to work out: 1) to decrease the font expansion limit (40 is too much; 20 is the normal and 30 can be a little bit dangerous already). 2) not to expand all the fonts but only where it makes sense (the body font). 3) to increase the step expansion to 10 4) to increase pdf_mem_size = 500000 in texmf.cnf HTH, Thanh _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 5-Apr-2001 15:05:33-GMT,2512;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA00291 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 09:05:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 58EE52AE8C; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 17:06:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f35F5Lm22061 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 17:05:21 +0200 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA13606; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 17:04:48 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA14452; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 17:04:43 +0200 (MET DST) From: Han The Thanh To: Andreas Matthias Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] threads and named identifiers Message-ID: <20010405170443.A13490@anxur.fi.muni.cz> References: <012f01c0bd2a$2d14fc40$4db6cac3@kabsi.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <012f01c0bd2a$2d14fc40$4db6cac3@kabsi.at>; from amat@kabsi.at on Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 07:10:39PM +0200 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 17:04:43 +0200 > The manual says: Treads with same identifiers (spread across the document) > will be joined together. > But this just works using numbered identifiers ( --> num ). > Using named identifiers ( --> name ) _all_ threads are > joined together independent of their names. > See the example below. > > Am I doing something wrong or is this a bug? this is a bug of named threads, which was reported by Koala a few months ago. Please update your pdftex. Thanh _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 5-Apr-2001 15:32:33-GMT,2885;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA00736 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 09:32:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id D9E762B456; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 17:33:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from moutvdom01.kundenserver.de (moutvdom01.kundenserver.de [195.20.224.200]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f35FWOm22255 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 17:32:24 +0200 Received: from [195.20.224.209] (helo=mrvdom02.schlund.de) by moutvdom01.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 14lBjf-0002PD-00; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 17:31:47 +0200 Received: from pd9502cd9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([217.80.44.217] helo=servus) by mrvdom02.schlund.de with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 14lBkZ-0006fo-00; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 17:32:43 +0200 From: "Ulrich Dirr" To: "Han The Thanh" Cc: "pdfTeX" Subject: AW: [pdftex] TeX capacity exceeded, [PDF memory size=65536] Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 In-Reply-To: <20010405162241.D5777@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 17:30:40 +0200 > 1) to decrease the font expansion limit (40 is too much; 20 is the > normal and 30 can be a little bit dangerous already). maybe you're right. 30 is ok. (I've looked at the pages with expansion of 40 and they're not visible distorted ...) > 3) to increase the step expansion to 10 I thought it's better for TeX's line breaking if the steps are small? More possibilities for line breaking (two columns with 14cc each). > 4) to increase > > pdf_mem_size = 500000 yes! Thank you very much. Regards, Ulrich Dirr P.S. congratulations and all the best! -- Art & Satz Ulrich Dirr Arnimstraße 9 81369 München Germany/Deutschland -- fon (+49 89) 743 30 60 fax (+49 89) 743 30 61 email ud@art-satz.de -- -=*:-) _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 5-Apr-2001 15:41:37-GMT,2747;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA00925 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 09:41:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 2A18C2B466; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 17:42:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f35Ffum22351 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 17:41:56 +0200 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA19996; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 17:41:23 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA17416; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 17:41:22 +0200 (MET DST) From: Han The Thanh To: Ulrich Dirr Cc: Han The Thanh , pdfTeX Subject: Re: [pdftex] TeX capacity exceeded, [PDF memory size=65536] Message-ID: <20010405174121.B16537@anxur.fi.muni.cz> References: <20010405162241.D5777@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from ud@art-satz.de on Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 05:30:40PM +0200 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 17:41:21 +0200 > > 1) to decrease the font expansion limit (40 is too much; 20 is the > > normal and 30 can be a little bit dangerous already). > > maybe you're right. 30 is ok. (I've looked at the pages with expansion > of 40 and they're not visible distorted ...) I can be sure that I (or Thierry) can see it :) > > 3) to increase the step expansion to 10 > > I thought it's better for TeX's line breaking if the steps are small? > More possibilities for line breaking (two columns with 14cc each). yes, in general it's better if the step is small. But if it's too small you will end up with too many fonts. Regards, Thanh _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 5-Apr-2001 16:38:32-GMT,2452;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA02123 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 10:38:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 298532B45E; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 18:39:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from zambeze.ujf-grenoble.fr (zambeze.ujf-grenoble.fr [152.77.2.3]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f35GcEm22646 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 18:38:15 +0200 Received: from mozart.ujf-grenoble.Fr (mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.241.5]) by zambeze.ujf-grenoble.fr (Pro-8.9.3/8.9.3/Configured by AD & JE 25/10/1999) with ESMTP id SAA04153; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 18:37:39 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from bouche@localhost) by mozart.ujf-grenoble.Fr (8.9.3/8.8.5) id SAA28621; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 18:37:28 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <200104051637.SAA28621@mozart.ujf-grenoble.Fr> From: Thierry Bouche To: Ross Moore Cc: Johannes Graumann , pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] weird Spanish problem In-Reply-To: <200104042102.HAA06891@hera.mpce.mq.edu.au> References: <200104042102.HAA06891@hera.mpce.mq.edu.au> X-Mailer: VM 6.22 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 18:37:28 +0200 (MET DST) » > ...e \expandafter {\Hy@captinosspanish » ^^^^ » This looks remarkably like a spelling error! as well as : > \foreignlanguage{spanish}{carramba!} which should read \foreignlanguage{spanish}{¡carramba!} ;-} _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 6-Apr-2001 5:43:33-GMT,2919;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA12894 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 23:43:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 4EFFC2B464; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 07:44:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from moutvdom01.kundenserver.de (moutvdom01.kundenserver.de [195.20.224.200]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f365h4m25680 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 07:43:04 +0200 Received: from [195.20.224.219] (helo=mrvdom03.kundenserver.de) by moutvdom01.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 14lOz2-0001b4-00; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 07:40:32 +0200 Received: from pd9502ccc.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([217.80.44.204] helo=servus) by mrvdom03.kundenserver.de with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 14lOyy-0001FO-00; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 07:40:28 +0200 From: "Ulrich Dirr" To: "Han The Thanh" Cc: "pdfTeX" Subject: [pdftex] output conversion Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 07:39:27 +0200 Hi. Assume the situation that my service bureau can't output my PDF files and ask for PostScript files. What is the best and recommended procedure: a) using Acrobat export options, b) using \pdfoutput=0 and some DVItoPS postprocessor? What comes immediately to my mind are the following concerns. What informations will I loose (conversion is conversion) or what should I beware of? Especially I'm wondering what a postprocessor and even Acrobat itself (when exporting PS) might think about the expanded fonts that are used (\pdffontexpand 30 5 1000) and how it will handle these fonts (e.g. embedding). And may be there're other concerns?! Regards, Ulrich Dirr -- Art & Satz Ulrich Dirr Arnimstraße 9 81369 München Germany/Deutschland -- fon (+49 89) 743 30 60 fax (+49 89) 743 30 61 email ud@art-satz.de -- -=*:-) _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 6-Apr-2001 7:03:33-GMT,2739;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA13873 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 01:03:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id B5AEB2B46A; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 09:04:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.jablotron.cz (fw1.jablotron.cz [212.71.174.67]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f36739m26004 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 09:03:09 +0200 Received: (qmail 16095 invoked from network); 6 Apr 2001 07:02:17 -0000 Received: from osoba.jablotron.cz (HELO osoba) (192.168.250.38) by gw.jablotron.cz with SMTP; 6 Apr 2001 07:02:17 -0000 Message-ID: <004401c0be67$8e94cfc0$26faa8c0@jablotron.cz> From: "Jiri Osoba" To: "PDFTeX Mailing List (E-mail)" Subject: [pdftex] output conversion Organization: Jablotron Ltd., R&D department X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 09:02:34 +0200 From: Ulrich Dirr > Assume the situation that my service bureau can't output my PDF files > and ask for PostScript files. > > What is the best and recommended procedure: > > a) using Acrobat export options, > b) using \pdfoutput=0 and some DVItoPS postprocessor? You will have to convert pictures to EPS and do additional work. > What comes immediately to my mind are the following concerns. > > What informations will I loose (conversion is conversion) or what > should I beware of? > > Especially I'm wondering what a postprocessor and even Acrobat itself > (when exporting PS) might think about the expanded fonts that are used > (\pdffontexpand 30 5 1000) and how it will handle these fonts (e.g. > embedding). > > And may be there're other concerns?! I prefer Acrobat PostScript output or (better) pdftops from xpdf. I'm nearly sure that you won't lose anything from your document for printing using this way. Jiri. _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 6-Apr-2001 9:01:33-GMT,2581;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA14629 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 03:01:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 834002B46A; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 11:02:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from aleph.net.uniovi.es (aleph.net.uniovi.es [156.35.11.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3691Bm26456 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 11:01:12 +0200 Received: from bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es (bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es [156.35.56.38]) by aleph.net.uniovi.es (PMDF V6.0-24 #45227) with ESMTP id <01K22RBY5TA000ATM2@aleph.net.uniovi.es> for pdftex@tug.org; Fri, 06 Apr 2001 10:32:53 +0200 (MET) Received: from localhost (carmenes@localhost) by bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f368WJi02642; Fri, 06 Apr 2001 10:32:19 +0200 From: Ricardo Sanchez Carmenes Subject: Re: [pdftex] output conversion In-reply-to: X-Sender: carmenes@bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es To: Ulrich Dirr Cc: Han The Thanh , pdfTeX Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 10:32:19 +0200 (CEST) On Fri, 6 Apr 2001, Ulrich Dirr wrote: > Hi. > > Assume the situation that my service bureau can't output my PDF files > and ask for PostScript files. > > What is the best and recommended procedure: The acrobat reader can be used as a filter to transform pdf files into postscript: cat yourfile.pdf | acroread -toPostScript -level2 -size a4 > yourfile.ps and in my hands it does a pretty good job. (other options are available to suit your needs) Ricardo. _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 6-Apr-2001 9:13:34-GMT,2788;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA14732 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 03:13:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 443622B481; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 11:14:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.riodata.de ([62.16.139.11]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f369Ddm26572 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 11:13:40 +0200 Received: from artinet.artcom-gmbh.de (62.16.147.178) by mail.riodata.de (5.1.056) id 3A6CE22600023670 for pdftex@tug.org; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 11:13:06 +0200 Received: (from uartcom@localhost) by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id LAA22982 for tug.org!pdftex; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 11:13:04 +0200 (MEST) >Received: by artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de (Smail3.2 #1) id m14lSHx-004wwRC; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 11:12:17 +0200 (MEST) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= To: pdfTeX Subject: Re: [pdftex] output conversion Message-ID: <20010406111217.G7269@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mail-Followup-To: pdfTeX References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from carmenes@bioquimica.uniovi.es on Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 10:32:19AM +0200 Organization: ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Strasse 8, D-28359 Bremen X-Disclaimer: The views expressed are my own and not necessarily that of my employers. Received: from artcom8 by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 11:13 MES Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 11:12:17 +0200 On 2001-04-06 10:32:19 +0200, Ricardo Sanchez Carmenes wrote: > cat yourfile.pdf | acroread -toPostScript -level2 -size a4 > yourfile.ps That should be acroread -toPostScript -level2 -size a4 -pairs yourfile.pdf yourfile.ps Best regards Martin -- http://www.tm.oneiros.de/calendar/2001/ _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 6-Apr-2001 9:16:34-GMT,3062;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA14757 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 03:16:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 92CD62B486; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 11:17:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f369Glm26632 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 11:16:47 +0200 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA14659; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 11:11:17 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA12896; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 11:11:15 +0200 (MET DST) From: Han The Thanh To: Ulrich Dirr Cc: Han The Thanh , pdfTeX Subject: Re: [pdftex] output conversion Message-ID: <20010406111115.B10804@anxur.fi.muni.cz> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from ud@art-satz.de on Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 07:39:27AM +0200 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 11:11:15 +0200 > Assume the situation that my service bureau can't output my PDF files > and ask for PostScript files. > > What is the best and recommended procedure: > > a) using Acrobat export options, > b) using \pdfoutput=0 and some DVItoPS postprocessor? > > What comes immediately to my mind are the following concerns. > > What informations will I loose (conversion is conversion) or what > should I beware of? > > Especially I'm wondering what a postprocessor and even Acrobat itself > (when exporting PS) might think about the expanded fonts that are used > (\pdffontexpand 30 5 1000) and how it will handle these fonts (e.g. > embedding). > > And may be there're other concerns?! I use Acrobat Reader to convert pdf files to ps for printing. Sometimes it's better to use pdftops, but unfortunately it cannot handle type3 (bitmap) and truetype fonts yet, so it's prefered when you have type1 fonts only. Another possibility is to use gs to print pdf directly (or to PXL and the likes). hth, Thanh _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 6-Apr-2001 14:57:33-GMT,2786;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA17547 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 08:57:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 5C1F62B461; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 16:58:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from relay2.flashnet.it (libra.cyb.it [212.11.95.209]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f36EvGm28286 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 16:57:17 +0200 Received: from oemcomputer (ip228.pool-173.cyb.it [195.191.181.229]) by relay2.flashnet.it (EMS-RELAY/8.10.0) with SMTP id f36Eubj12433 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 16:56:42 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20010406165657.0206a700@mbox.flashnet.it> X-Sender: fn035144@mbox.flashnet.it X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) To: pdfTeX List From: chiari mario Subject: Re: [pdftex] Han The Thanh has just got his PhD from Masaryk University Brno In-Reply-To: <20010405135634.B7269@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> References: <20010405132848.J28249@informatics.muni.cz> <20010405132848.J28249@informatics.muni.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.daimi.au.dk id f36EvGm28286 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 16:56:57 +0200 Congratulation from a happy pdflatex user Han, wish the best to you mario (chiari) At 13.56 05/04/01 +0200, Martin Schröder wrote: >On 2001-04-05 13:28:49 +0200, Petr Sojka wrote: >> this is to let the world to know, that Han The Thanh >> has just defended his thesis named >> Macrotypographic extensions to the TeX typesetting system >> and will be given PhD degree from Masaryk University Brno, >> where he has studied since 1990 (for Masters and PhD degree). > >Hurray! :-) > >Congratulations > Martin >-- > http://www.tm.oneiros.de/calendar/2001/ > >_______________________________________________ >pdftex mailing list >pdftex@tug.org >http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex > _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 6-Apr-2001 19:57:33-GMT,2060;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA23817 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 13:57:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 64E7C2B477; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 21:58:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu (ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu [152.17.150.2]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f36Jvwm29548 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 21:57:58 +0200 Received: from localhost (cottrell@localhost) by ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu (8.11.2/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f36Jsp615413 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 15:54:54 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu: cottrell owned process doing -bs From: Allin Cottrell X-X-Sender: To: pdfTeX List Subject: Re: [pdftex] Han The Thanh has just got his PhD from Masaryk University Brno In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.20010406165657.0206a700@mbox.flashnet.it> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 15:54:51 -0400 (EDT) On Fri, 6 Apr 2001, chiari mario wrote: > Congratulation from a happy pdflatex user Me too. Certainly one of the world's more useful PhDs! Allin Cottrell North Carolina _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 7-Apr-2001 9:54:33-GMT,1999;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA05286 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 03:54:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id BFA112B469; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 11:55:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f379s1m32692 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 11:54:01 +0200 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA04837 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 11:53:27 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA09888 for pdftex@tug.org; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 11:53:25 +0200 (MET DST) From: Han The Thanh To: pdftex@tug.org Message-ID: <20010407115325.B5415@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i Subject: [pdftex] thank you for all the congratulations Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 11:53:25 +0200 Dear all, thank you for all the congratulations and also all the support that have been given to me, I really appreciate it. Best regards, Thanh _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 7-Apr-2001 16:56:36-GMT,2625;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA07363 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 10:56:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 0F6A52B469; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 18:57:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from uakron.edu (uakron.edu [130.101.5.4]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f37GuNm01803 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 18:56:24 +0200 Received: from default (huron79-79.comp.uakron.edu [130.101.6.79]) by uakron.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f37GtmQ20990 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 12:55:48 -0400 (EDT) From: "Donald Story" Organization: The University of Akron To: pdftex MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Reply-To: dpstory@uakron.edu Message-ID: <3ACF0DB1.25827.1274D78@localhost> Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Subject: [pdftex] What's new with Acrobat 5.0 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 12:53:05 -0400 I just uploaded a new article "What new with Acrobat 5.0". In this short article, I'lve hightlighted some of the things that would be of interest to TeX/LaTeX users. See http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/lnk_forms.html Also provided on this page are links to the new pdfmark Reference manual for Acrobat 5.0, to the adobe article on what new in the PDF Spec. 1.4. Regards, dps Dr. D. P. Story / dpstory@uakron.edu / (330) 972-7514 http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/ Dept of Mathematics and Computer Science / University of Akron / Akron, Ohio 44325 AcroTeX Web Site: http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/acrotex.html Site Includes: e-Calculus, Algebra Review in Ten Lessons, Mathematics Games, Pdfmarks:Links & Forms, Using LaTeX to Create Quality PDF Documents for the WWW, Web.sty and Exerquiz.sty Packages for LaTeX, and much, much more. _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 7-Apr-2001 18:24:32-GMT,2049;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA07944 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 12:24:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 35BC32B462; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 20:25:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ailab.pku.edu.cn (ailab.PKU.EDU.CN [162.105.203.39]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f37IOYm02175 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 20:24:35 +0200 Received: from localhost (lyongu@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ailab.pku.edu.cn (8.9.3/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) with ESMTP id CAA14390 for ; Sun, 8 Apr 2001 02:23:56 +0800 From: Lu Yong To: pdftex@tug.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [pdftex] Can pdftex produce searchable CJK PDFs? Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 02:23:56 +0800 (CST) Hi, I am wondering whether pdftex can produce "searchable" CJK PDFs, ie. strings in CJK charset are still searchable in the final PDF. Regards, Yong Lu ---------------------------------------------------- Yong Lu lyongu@ailab.pku.edu.cn Artificial Intelligence Lab Department of Computer Science, Peking University ---------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 7-Apr-2001 22:59:31-GMT,2894;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA09851 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 16:59:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 8DBFB2B47F; Sun, 8 Apr 2001 01:00:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.de [194.221.183.20]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f37MxRm03143 for ; Sun, 8 Apr 2001 00:59:27 +0200 Received: (qmail 13517 invoked by uid 0); 7 Apr 2001 22:58:52 -0000 Received: from brln-3e36e632.pool.mediaways.net (HELO gmx.de) (62.54.230.50) by mail.gmx.net (mp013-rz3) with SMTP; 7 Apr 2001 22:58:52 -0000 Message-ID: <3ACF9BDB.C0067BE8@gmx.de> From: Steffen Evers Reply-To: Tex2pdf Developer List X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.18pre21 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tex2pdf Announce List , LyX Users , Pdftex List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [pdftex] tex2pdf 2.1 released Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2001 00:59:39 +0200 Hello everyone, tex2pdf 2.1 has been released. It is a bugfix release. The major changes are: # * bugfix: included graphics haven't been recognised with [...] parameter # (thanks to Ahmet Sekercioglu for the bug report) # * introduced parameters MINRUNNO, INSERTCOMMAND and CLEANLOGS # * bugfix: env variable in single quotes (handling of included TeX files) # * bugfix: TOC was not created as pdflatex has been running only once # (thanks to Richard for the bug report) # * bugfix: commented out \include and \bibliography have been processed # (thanks to Ahmet Sekercioglu for the bug report) # * added optional makeindex support (set MAKEINDEX=test to activate) # (thanks to Steffen Macke for his work) More information at: http://tex2pdf.berlios.de/ Please send any comments to the Tex2pdf Developer List: mailto:tex2pdf-devel@lists.berlios.de . Thanks to all the people who helped us with their feedback, patches and comments. Bye, Steffen _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 8-Apr-2001 13:48:32-GMT,4149;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA14958 for ; Sun, 8 Apr 2001 07:48:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id C577C2AE8B; Sun, 8 Apr 2001 15:49:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [194.221.183.20]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f38Dmxm11286 for ; Sun, 8 Apr 2001 15:48:59 +0200 Received: (qmail 32402 invoked by uid 0); 8 Apr 2001 13:48:24 -0000 Received: from brln-3e36e39a.pool.mediaways.net (HELO gmx.de) (62.54.227.154) by mail.gmx.net (mail07) with SMTP; 8 Apr 2001 13:48:24 -0000 Message-ID: <3AD06BF9.46FB0285@gmx.de> From: Steffen Evers X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.18pre21 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Pdftex List Cc: Prof Brian D Ripley , Tex2pdf Developer List References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [pdftex] tex2pdf says good-bye Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2001 15:47:37 +0200 I have written in my first announcement of tex2pdf that I will only post as long as nobody minds. Therefore upon an harsh request I will not announce any further releases of tex2pdf on the Pdftex List. However, I am still loving pdftex! ;-) Prof Brian D Ripley wrote: > > On Sun, 8 Apr 2001, Steffen Evers wrote: > > > tex2pdf 2.1 has been released. It is a bugfix release. The major changes are: > > [...] > > And whatever is tex2pdf? I am a subscriber to the pdftex list, and am As you seem to have problems to follow the link to the tex2pdf homepage: tex2pdf is a bash shell script that generates a PDF file from a LaTeX or LyX document using tools like pdflatex, sed and epstopdf. > not interested in a bugfix list for a system I have never heard of. Okay, next time I want to post something on the list I will consider asking you if you already know about the contents (as you are not interested in things you have not heard about) and if you allow posting it (as other subscribers seem not to be of any interest). > When pdftex updates are announced, they do not include a bugfix list. What is INCLUDED in an announcement should not bother someone who is not interested in the whole thing at all as you can decide by the subject not to waste a second on it. Additionally, when you look around most release announcements include some changes otherwise the subject would be enough, right? > > In short, you seem to be spamming an inappropriate list. > > -- > Brian D. Ripley, ripley@stats.ox.ac.uk > Professor of Applied Statistics, http://www.stats.ox.ac.uk/~ripley/ > University of Oxford, Tel: +44 1865 272861 (self) > 1 South Parks Road, +44 1865 272860 (secr) > Oxford OX1 3TG, UK Fax: +44 1865 272595 I don't know why you have appended this signature as it is not important in this context, is it? However, it is normally the job of the list adminstrator to decide what should be posted and what should not. Do you have that job, too? By the way you have spammed our mailing list with your posting as well (in YOUR terms) and a personal mail to me would have been more appropriate. Regards, Steffen Evers (Dipl.-Inform. :-) _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 8-Apr-2001 21:12:31-GMT,2689;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA17337 for ; Sun, 8 Apr 2001 15:12:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 34A782AE8C; Sun, 8 Apr 2001 23:13:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from news.ci.uw.edu.pl (mail.uw.edu.pl [193.0.72.132]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f38LCQm13140 for ; Sun, 8 Apr 2001 23:12:26 +0200 Received: from mercury.ci.uw.edu.pl by news.ci.uw.edu.pl; Sun, 08 Apr 2001 23:06:12 +0200 Received: from mic (pa155.olsztyn.ppp.tpnet.pl [212.160.60.155]) by mercury.ci.uw.edu.pl; Sun, 08 Apr 2001 23:05:46 +0200 Message-ID: <000901c0c070$8150cc00$9b3ca0d4@mic> From: "Michal Piskorski" To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Subject: [pdftex] problems with dnp japanese fonts Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 23:08:53 +0200 A document is created by pdflatex with CJK package (text in Japanese and Korean). Acrobat Reader (4.05 for W98) prints an error message while trying to display the page with any dnp japanese fonts ie.: "Unable to extract the embedded font ERNIAN+dmjkb. Some characters may not display or print correctly" and no Japanese character is displayed. Do you know how to force acrobat to display them correctly? BTW: xpdf and gv print everything well. Another problem - I don't know how to build pdf file with type1 fonts that were created by ttf2pfb + t1asm (set of subfonts created from ttf unicode font). To receive ps file I have to use dvips with -j0 option. Any attempt to get pdf file (pdflatex, dvipdfm) is followed by error message that says about unexpected end of (font) file, and process is broken. Any suggestions? Michal _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 9-Apr-2001 7:42:31-GMT,2422;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA22110 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 01:42:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 731322AE8B; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 09:43:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from aleph.net.uniovi.es (aleph.net.uniovi.es [156.35.11.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f397gLm15247 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 09:42:23 +0200 Received: from bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es (bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es [156.35.56.38]) by aleph.net.uniovi.es (PMDF V6.0-24 #45227) with ESMTP id <01K26WFKIMEC00051E@aleph.net.uniovi.es> for pdftex@tug.org; Mon, 09 Apr 2001 09:41:45 +0200 (MET) Received: from localhost (carmenes@localhost) by bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f397fFi20279 for ; Mon, 09 Apr 2001 09:41:15 +0200 From: Ricardo Sanchez Carmenes X-Sender: carmenes@bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es To: pdftex@tug.org Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: [pdftex] Djgpp version of pdftex-pdfcrypt Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 09:41:15 +0200 (CEST) Somebody asked about a djgpp version of pdftex with encryption. Finally I managed to install the cross-compiler and to compile binaries that correspond to pdftex-pdfcrypt-20010331. They are available at Please, report bugs to me. Sources have been sent to Han The Thanh but they are not yet integrated into the regular release. Ricardo. _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 9-Apr-2001 9:39:32-GMT,4163;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA22863 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 03:39:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 251252B452; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 11:40:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from siv.maths.usyd.edu.au (talus.maths.usyd.edu.au [129.78.68.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f399dmm15899 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 11:39:58 +0200 Received: from smap@localhost by siv.maths.usyd.edu.au (8.11.2/6.1 to SMTP) id f399c9N300539; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 19:38:09 +1000 (EST) Received: from rome.maths.usyd.edu.au (daemon(.daemon;1.1)@rome.maths.usyd.edu.au) [129.78.69.161] by siv.maths.usyd.edu.au via smtpdoor V12.8 id 311145; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 19:38:09 +1000 Received: from p523.pc.maths.usyd.edu.au [129.78.94.208] by rome.maths.usyd.edu.au with ESMTP (8.11.2/6.1 to SMTP) id f399c83267726; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 19:38:08 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <3AD182EE.73F7ABF3@maths.usyd.edu.au> From: Bob Howlett X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alan Shutko Cc: pdftex@tug.org References: <3.0.6.32.20010320094252.017424c0@server-1> <87hf0oef3q.fsf@wesley.springies.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [pdftex] pdfopt Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 19:37:50 +1000 Alan Shutko wrote: > > Hans Hagen writes: > > > Optimizing is always a good idea and as far as i know rather robust too > > (nowadays). > > I've been having troubles getting pdfopt to work on pdflatex'd files. > With both GS 6.50 and 6.61: > > [08:33:55] wesley:~/gs6.61/lib $ ../bin/gs -q -dNODISPLAY -- pdfopt.ps resume.pdf opt.pdf > ERROR: file position incorrect by -1 > Error: /rangecheck in padto > Operand stack: > --nostringval-- > Execution stack: > %interp_exit .runexec2 --nostringval-- --nostringval-- --nostringval-- 2 %stopped_push --nostringval-- --nostringval-- --nostringval-- false 1 %stopped_push 1 3 %oparray_pop 1 3 %oparray_pop 1 3 %oparray_pop .runexec2 --nostringval-- --nostringval-- --nostringval-- 2 %stopped_push --nostringval-- --nostringval-- --nostringval-- --nostringval-- --nostringval-- > Dictionary stack: > --dict:958/1123(ro)(G)-- --dict:0/20(G)-- --dict:97/200(L)-- --dict:73/200(G)-- --dict:197/230(ro)(G)-- --dict:16/24(L)-- --dict:23/40(L)-- --dict:35/36(L)-- > Current allocation mode is local > Current file position is 30124 > AFPL Ghostscript DEVELOPMENT RELEASE 6.61: Unrecoverable error, exit code 1 > > That file was 13d... I've also tried 14f and files from 12o. I only > see this problem with pdflatex'd files... anyone else see this? > > -- I can't get pdfopt to work either, but gs -q -dNODISPLAY --pdfopt.ps resume.pdf opt.pdf seems to go much closer to working than gs -q -dNODISPLAY -- pdfopt.ps resume.pdf opt.pdf In fact, it looks as though it's working, but I don't get any output file. This is under windows98, and also the same with Digital Alpha running Compaq Tru64 Unix. No doubt some trivial change can get it to write the output file, but I don't understand postscript, so it's beyond me. Bob Howlett _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 9-Apr-2001 10:25:30-GMT,2618;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA23164 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 04:25:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 1C5AE2B45A; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 12:26:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from siv.maths.usyd.edu.au (talus.maths.usyd.edu.au [129.78.68.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f39APkm16152 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 12:25:47 +0200 Received: from smap@localhost by siv.maths.usyd.edu.au (8.11.2/6.1 to SMTP) id f39ANsL298537; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 20:23:54 +1000 (EST) Received: from rome.maths.usyd.edu.au (daemon(.daemon;1.1)@rome.maths.usyd.edu.au) [129.78.69.161] by siv.maths.usyd.edu.au via smtpdoor V12.8 id 310302; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 20:23:54 +1000 Received: from p523.pc.maths.usyd.edu.au [129.78.94.208] by rome.maths.usyd.edu.au with ESMTP (8.11.2/6.1 to SMTP) id f39ANr3242765; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 20:23:53 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <3AD18DA3.ADDA3FD1@maths.usyd.edu.au> From: Bob Howlett X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alan Shutko Cc: pdftex@tug.org References: <3.0.6.32.20010320094252.017424c0@server-1> <87hf0oef3q.fsf@wesley.springies.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [pdftex] pdfopt Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 20:23:31 +1000 Clearly, when I wrote that gs -q -dNODISPLAY --pdfopt.ps resume.pdf opt.pdf seems to go much closer to working than gs -q -dNODISPLAY -- pdfopt.ps resume.pdf opt.pdf I was talking nonsense. gs just ignores pdfopt.ps altogether. The second syntax did work for me once with a two word pdf file. Can anyone get pdfopt to work? Bob Howlett _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 9-Apr-2001 12:33:31-GMT,5276;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA23803 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 06:33:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id B62DB2B44F; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 14:34:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp9.xs4all.nl (smtp9.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.135]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f39CXhm16771 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 14:33:43 +0200 Received: from server-1.pragma-ade.nl (s340-isdn2674.dial.xs4all.nl [194.109.190.114]) by smtp9.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA05669 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 14:33:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: from laptop-1 (laptop-1.pragma-ade.nl [200.1.1.25]) by server-1.pragma-ade.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA30706 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 14:21:33 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20010409142112.01b96b40@server-1> X-Sender: hagen@server-1 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) To: pdftex From: Hans Hagen In-Reply-To: <3ACF0DB1.25827.1274D78@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: [pdftex] Acrobat 5.0 / consequences for pdftex Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 14:21:12 +0200 At 12:53 PM 4/7/01 -0400, Donald Story wrote: >Also provided on this page are links to the new pdfmark Reference >manual for Acrobat 5.0, to the adobe article on what new in the PDF >Spec. 1.4. I took a quick look to see what are the consequences for tex / pdftex: (1) JBIG2 compression for this pdftex needs an additonial graphics library, looks quite doable (2) encryption no real big new things, support depends on adding encryption to pdftex or not (3) adding language version to catalog can be implemented by existing pdf primitives (4) included data simplified so already supported (5) procset resource finaly this resource became obsolete, can become something \pdfprocset{...} % defaults to current proscet which when empty omits the entry. This save some bytes. (6) graphics not important (7) glyph width cmaps not so much a new feature, pdftex's hz previewing/printing may benefit from it (8) output intents doable but also external app feature (9) new bookmark properties (color,font) this joke can be supported by a (new) attr key/value to bookmarks [not sure if this key is already there] (10) annotations just extensions that can be handled already (11) new javascript events new javascript specs not yet public, quite certainly doable within current pdftex (12) forms (widget) extensions quite doable in existing framework [important extensions: submit forms as xml, unicode support, fonts which is already supported but viewers were never capable of handling it] (13) referenced pdf can be handled by xform attr/res keys (14) natural language specs doable within pdftex (15) accessibility support looks doable with attr keys to primitives as well as literal pdf (16) box defs for page can be handled by page attributes primitives (17) printermark annotation can be handled by annotation primitives (18) metadata xml streams doable with existing primitives (19) tagged pdf looks doable, and is mostly a macro package dependent feature, i'm not sure about the need to support is [mostly a html like thing] and i wonder if the overhead is worth the effort; something like this was already possible with marked content operators (20) transparancy looks doable, but i need a viewer to test it [gs is not yet bug free and acro 5 is out of reach] (--) So, to summarize: -- for pdftex: only the obsolete procset is of importance and maybe the att key to bookmarks and the new image compression -- for tex macropackages: structuring may need to be supported, no big deal but useless without apps using it -- for pdf functionality: a couple of widget extensione, hopefully some real interesting javascript extensions [currently most of it is not that much needed for docs generated by tex] as well as a less buggy plug in [for as far as can see the initialization issue is still not documented / standardised] So far, Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma@wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 9-Apr-2001 12:52:32-GMT,2995;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA23904 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 06:52:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id C2F5D2B452; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 14:53:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from uakron.edu (uakron.edu [130.101.5.4]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f39CqRm16918 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 14:52:27 +0200 Received: from default (atlantic48-189.infoserv.uakron.edu [130.101.6.189]) by uakron.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f39CpiQ19733; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 08:51:44 -0400 (EDT) From: "Donald Story" Organization: The University of Akron To: Hans Hagen , pdftex MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: [pdftex] Acrobat 5.0 / consequences for pdftex Reply-To: dpstory@uakron.edu Message-ID: <3AD1777D.22961.C84380@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <3.0.6.32.20010409142112.01b96b40@server-1> References: <3ACF0DB1.25827.1274D78@localhost> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 08:49:01 -0400 On 9 Apr 2001, at 14:21, Hans Hagen wrote: > At 12:53 PM 4/7/01 -0400, Donald Story wrote: > > >Also provided on this page are links to the new pdfmark Reference > >manual for Acrobat 5.0, to the adobe article on what new in the PDF > >Spec. 1.4. > > I took a quick look to see what are the consequences for tex / pdftex: > > > (9) new bookmark properties (color,font) > > this joke can be supported by a (new) attr key/value to bookmarks [not sure if > this key is already there] > I don't think 'joke' is an appropriate description of a feature users of Acrobat, the commercial product, have requested. dps Dr. D. P. Story / dpstory@uakron.edu / (330) 972-7514 http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/ Dept of Mathematics and Computer Science / University of Akron / Akron, Ohio 44325 AcroTeX Web Site: http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/acrotex.html Site Includes: e-Calculus, Algebra Review in Ten Lessons, Mathematics Games, Pdfmarks:Links & Forms, Using LaTeX to Create Quality PDF Documents for the WWW, Web.sty and Exerquiz.sty Packages for LaTeX, and much, much more. _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 9-Apr-2001 13:02:32-GMT,2015;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA23988 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 07:02:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 52CFA2B44F; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 15:03:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from hal.kabsi.at (strange.kabsi.at [195.202.128.71]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f39D2am17030 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 15:02:36 +0200 Received: from gobin (cm.med.3284842061.kabelnet.net [195.202.182.77]) by hal.kabsi.at (8.10.2/) with SMTP id f39D1si0000736360 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 15:01:54 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <002d01c0c0f5$46c65f20$4db6cac3@kabsi.at> From: "Andreas Matthias" To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Subject: [pdftex] thread primitives Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 15:02:04 +0200 There are two sorts of primitives to create threads: 1. \pdfthread 2. \pdfstartthread and \pdfendthread Will both be maintained in future versions of pdftex? Is \pdfthread obsolete? Greetings, Andreas _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 9-Apr-2001 13:13:33-GMT,2962;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA24060 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 07:13:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 104A32B45B; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 15:14:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from janus.physics.ox.ac.uk (mail.physics.ox.ac.uk [163.1.244.140]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f39DDsm17159 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 15:13:54 +0200 Received: from amavis by janus.physics.ox.ac.uk with scanned-ok (Exim 3.16 #6) id 14mbTr-0003LG-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Mon, 09 Apr 2001 14:13:19 +0100 Received: from nodens.physics.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.243.66] ident=root) by janus.physics.ox.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 3.16 #6) id 14mbTn-0003H1-00; Mon, 09 Apr 2001 14:13:15 +0100 Received: from nat.physics.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.241.35] helo=spqr-tosh) by nodens.physics.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #5) id 14mbTm-0003Wp-00; Mon, 09 Apr 2001 14:13:14 +0100 X-Mailer: emacs 20.7.2 (via feedmail 8 I); VM 6.92 under Emacs 20.7.2 From: "Sebastian Rahtz" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15057.46440.131637.330659@gargle.gargle.HOWL> To: dpstory@uakron.edu Cc: pragma@wxs.nl, pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] Acrobat 5.0 / consequences for pdftex In-Reply-To: <3AD1777D.22961.C84380@localhost> References: <3ACF0DB1.25827.1274D78@localhost> <3AD1777D.22961.C84380@localhost> X-AVtransport: scanmails_remote X-AVwrapper: AMaViS (http://www.amavis.org/) X-AVscanner: Sophos sweep (http://www.sophos.com/) Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 14:13:12 +0100 Donald Story writes: > > I don't think 'joke' is an appropriate description of a feature users of > Acrobat, the commercial product, have requested. > as opposed to the features/questions that people like Hans have asked for/posed over the years, and which have been consistently ignored. I know you have connections with Adobe, Donald, but you will surely agree that their feedback to/from customers is frankly awful. So who these users are who have had their silly[1] feature put in, I don't know. Sebastian [1] yes, I agree with Hans.... _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 9-Apr-2001 13:15:37-GMT,2610;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA24070 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 07:15:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 56DB82B463; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 15:16:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from janus.physics.ox.ac.uk (mail.physics.ox.ac.uk [163.1.244.140]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f39DFBm17220 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 15:15:11 +0200 Received: from amavis by janus.physics.ox.ac.uk with scanned-ok (Exim 3.16 #6) id 14mbV6-0003U6-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Mon, 09 Apr 2001 14:14:36 +0100 Received: from nodens.physics.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.243.66] ident=root) by janus.physics.ox.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 3.16 #6) id 14mbV5-0003Sj-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Mon, 09 Apr 2001 14:14:35 +0100 Received: from nat.physics.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.241.35] helo=spqr-tosh) by nodens.physics.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #5) id 14mbV3-0003Xb-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Mon, 09 Apr 2001 14:14:33 +0100 X-Mailer: emacs 20.7.2 (via feedmail 8 I); VM 6.92 under Emacs 20.7.2 From: "Sebastian Rahtz" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15057.46520.21716.129729@gargle.gargle.HOWL> To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] Acrobat 5.0 / consequences for pdftex In-Reply-To: <3AD1777D.22961.C84380@localhost> References: <3ACF0DB1.25827.1274D78@localhost> <3AD1777D.22961.C84380@localhost> X-AVtransport: scanmails_remote X-AVwrapper: AMaViS (http://www.amavis.org/) X-AVscanner: Sophos sweep (http://www.sophos.com/) Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 14:14:32 +0100 the obvious question is, how much of the Acrobat5 features can pdftex support while keeping the PDF files readable by Acrobat3? Is it all hidden in extra keys which old readers will ignore? Sebastian _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 9-Apr-2001 13:17:38-GMT,2507;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA24078 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 07:17:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 948302B45D; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 15:18:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mta4 (mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.10]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f39DHNm17244 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 15:17:23 +0200 Received: from wesley.springies.nom (ool-18bad1dd.dyn.optonline.net [24.186.209.221]) by mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.0 Patch 2 (built Dec 14 2000)) with ESMTP id <0GBJ00JSK0VXD1@mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for pdftex@tug.org; Mon, 09 Apr 2001 09:16:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ats by wesley.springies.nom with local (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian)) id 14mbXC-0001KN-00 for ; Mon, 09 Apr 2001 09:16:46 -0400 From: Alan Shutko In-reply-to: <3AD18DA3.ADDA3FD1@maths.usyd.edu.au> To: pdftex@tug.org Message-id: <87g0figspp.fsf@wesley.springies.nom> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT User-Agent: Gnus/5.090001 (Oort Gnus v0.01) Emacs/21.0.102 Lines: 10 References: <3.0.6.32.20010320094252.017424c0@server-1> <87hf0oef3q.fsf@wesley.springies.com> <3AD18DA3.ADDA3FD1@maths.usyd.edu.au> Subject: [pdftex] Re: pdfopt Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 09:16:46 -0400 Bob Howlett writes: > Can anyone get pdfopt to work? I've got an open bug on it at sourceforge, but I haven't seen a fix yet. -- Alan Shutko - In a variety of flavors! Singers do it with microphones. _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 9-Apr-2001 13:26:55-GMT,3018;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA24156 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 07:26:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id B15852B46A; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 15:25:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.riodata.de ([62.16.139.11]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f39DOWm17297 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 15:24:32 +0200 Received: from artinet.artcom-gmbh.de (62.16.147.178) by mail.riodata.de (5.1.056) id 3A6CE2260002491D for pdftex@tug.org; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 15:23:56 +0200 Received: (from uartcom@localhost) by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id PAA15496 for tug.org!pdftex; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 15:23:55 +0200 (MEST) >Received: by artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de (Smail3.2 #1) id m14mbdt-004wwRC; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 15:23:41 +0200 (MEST) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] Acrobat 5.0 / consequences for pdftex Message-ID: <20010409152341.R7269@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mail-Followup-To: pdftex@tug.org References: <3ACF0DB1.25827.1274D78@localhost> <3AD1777D.22961.C84380@localhost> <15057.46520.21716.129729@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <15057.46520.21716.129729@gargle.gargle.HOWL>; from sebastian.rahtz@computing-services.oxford.ac.uk on Mon, Apr 09, 2001 at 02:14:32PM +0100 Organization: ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Strasse 8, D-28359 Bremen X-Disclaimer: The views expressed are my own and not necessarily that of my employers. Received: from artcom8 by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 15:23 MES Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 15:23:41 +0200 On 2001-04-09 14:14:32 +0100, Sebastian Rahtz wrote: > the obvious question is, how much of the Acrobat5 features can pdftex > support while keeping the PDF files readable by Acrobat3? Is it all > hidden in extra keys which old readers will ignore? Could be. But older readers will choke once they see the PDF1.4 in the header. Or you use the versioning feature and produce 1.3 with additional 1.4 objects. Don't know what 1.3-viewers will do with this... Best regards Martin -- http://www.tm.oneiros.de/calendar/2001/ _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 9-Apr-2001 13:29:54-GMT,2907;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA24185 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 07:29:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 7E1252AE82; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 15:30:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from uakron.edu (uakron.edu [130.101.5.4]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f39DTCm17336 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 15:29:12 +0200 Received: from default (atlantic48-189.infoserv.uakron.edu [130.101.6.189]) by uakron.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f39DSXQ26437; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 09:28:33 -0400 (EDT) From: "Donald Story" Organization: The University of Akron To: "Sebastian Rahtz" , pragma@wxs.nl, pdftex@tug.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: [pdftex] Acrobat 5.0 / consequences for pdftex Reply-To: dpstory@uakron.edu Message-ID: <3AD1801E.22003.E9FA5E@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <15057.46440.131637.330659@gargle.gargle.HOWL> References: <3AD1777D.22961.C84380@localhost> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 09:25:50 -0400 On 9 Apr 2001, at 14:13, Sebastian Rahtz wrote: > Donald Story writes: > > > > I don't think 'joke' is an appropriate description of a feature users of > > Acrobat, the commercial product, have requested. > > > as opposed to the features/questions that people like Hans have asked > for/posed over the years, and which have been consistently ignored. I > know you have connections with Adobe, Donald, but you will surely > agree that their feedback to/from customers is frankly awful. So who > these users are who have had their silly[1] feature put in, I don't > know. > > Sebastian > Sadly, Adobe tends to respond more to large developers. I've put in a few requests myself, when I was on the outside, which were ignored as well. I don't have any particular name responsible for this 'cosmetic' feature. Whether it is a feature sufficiently worthwhile to be incorporated into hyperref, I leave it for others to decide. Donald _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 9-Apr-2001 13:32:15-GMT,3135;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA24214 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 07:32:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 5B3502B465; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 15:30:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from janus.physics.ox.ac.uk (hastur.physics.ox.ac.uk [163.1.243.65]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f39DTmm17344 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 15:29:48 +0200 Received: from amavis by janus.physics.ox.ac.uk with scanned-ok (Exim 3.16 #5) id 14mbjF-0007BS-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Mon, 09 Apr 2001 14:29:13 +0100 Received: from nodens.physics.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.243.66] ident=root) by janus.physics.ox.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 3.16 #5) id 14mbjB-00077B-00; Mon, 09 Apr 2001 14:29:09 +0100 Received: from nat.physics.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.241.35] helo=spqr-tosh) by nodens.physics.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #5) id 14mbjA-0003c6-00; Mon, 09 Apr 2001 14:29:08 +0100 X-Mailer: emacs 20.7.2 (via feedmail 8 I); VM 6.92 under Emacs 20.7.2 From: "Sebastian Rahtz" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15057.47395.21585.623941@gargle.gargle.HOWL> To: ms@artcom-gmbh.de Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] Acrobat 5.0 / consequences for pdftex In-Reply-To: <20010409152341.R7269@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> References: <3ACF0DB1.25827.1274D78@localhost> <3AD1777D.22961.C84380@localhost> <15057.46520.21716.129729@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <20010409152341.R7269@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> X-AVtransport: scanmails_remote X-AVwrapper: AMaViS (http://www.amavis.org/) X-AVscanner: Sophos sweep (http://www.sophos.com/) Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 14:29:07 +0100 =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= writes: > On 2001-04-09 14:14:32 +0100, Sebastian Rahtz wrote: > > the obvious question is, how much of the Acrobat5 features can pdftex > > support while keeping the PDF files readable by Acrobat3? Is it all > > hidden in extra keys which old readers will ignore? > > Could be. But older readers will choke once they see the PDF1.4 > in the header. Or you use the versioning feature and produce 1.3 > with additional 1.4 objects. Don't know what 1.3-viewers will do > with this... sigh. i was hoping it would be possible to avoid using a \pdfversion=1.4 primitive. probably not sebastian _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 9-Apr-2001 13:38:02-GMT,2999;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA24261 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 07:38:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 54CD32B45F; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 15:36:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.riodata.de ([62.16.139.11]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f39DZXm17404 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 15:35:33 +0200 Received: from artinet.artcom-gmbh.de (62.16.147.178) by mail.riodata.de (5.1.056) id 3A6CE22600024949 for pdftex@tug.org; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 15:34:57 +0200 Received: (from uartcom@localhost) by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id PAA15629 for tug.org!pdftex; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 15:34:56 +0200 (MEST) >Received: by artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de (Smail3.2 #1) id m14mboU-004wwRC; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 15:34:38 +0200 (MEST) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] Acrobat 5.0 / consequences for pdftex Message-ID: <20010409153438.T7269@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mail-Followup-To: pdftex@tug.org References: <3ACF0DB1.25827.1274D78@localhost> <3AD1777D.22961.C84380@localhost> <15057.46520.21716.129729@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <20010409152341.R7269@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <15057.47395.21585.623941@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <15057.47395.21585.623941@gargle.gargle.HOWL>; from sebastian.rahtz@computing-services.oxford.ac.uk on Mon, Apr 09, 2001 at 02:29:07PM +0100 Organization: ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Strasse 8, D-28359 Bremen X-Disclaimer: The views expressed are my own and not necessarily that of my employers. Received: from artcom8 by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 15:34 MES Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 15:34:38 +0200 On 2001-04-09 14:29:07 +0100, Sebastian Rahtz wrote: > sigh. i was hoping it would be possible to avoid using a \pdfversion=1.4 > primitive. probably not In that case I would like a \pdfversion=1.2 primitive too. There are enough 3.x Readers out there and on some platforms (e.g. OS/2) you can't get newer Readers (unless you use GhostScript). Best regards Martin -- http://www.tm.oneiros.de/calendar/2001/ _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 9-Apr-2001 13:51:32-GMT,1915;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA24375 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 07:51:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id D73182AE8C; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 15:52:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from staff.ttu.ee (staff.ttu.ee [193.40.254.217]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f39DpZm17519 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 15:51:35 +0200 Received: (qmail 4632 invoked from network); 9 Apr 2001 13:51:00 -0000 Received: from ehmeh.em.ttu.ee (193.40.252.16) by staff.ttu.ee with SMTP; 9 Apr 2001 13:51:00 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=ehmeh) by ehmeh.em.ttu.ee with smtp (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian)) id 14mc5G-0000bB-00 for ; Mon, 09 Apr 2001 15:51:58 +0200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Andres Lahe Reply-To: alahe@staff.ttu.ee Organization: Tallinn Technical University To: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01040915515802.01833@ehmeh> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: [pdftex] confirm 121760 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 15:51:58 +0200 confirm 121760 _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 9-Apr-2001 14:03:35-GMT,3200;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA24652 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 08:03:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id E9FB92AE82; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 16:04:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp8.xs4all.nl (smtp8.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.134]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f39E3vm17683 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 16:03:57 +0200 Received: from server-1.pragma-ade.nl (s340-isdn1709.dial.xs4all.nl [194.109.186.173]) by smtp8.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA13313; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 16:03:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: from laptop-1 (laptop-1.pragma-ade.nl [200.1.1.25]) by server-1.pragma-ade.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA31032; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 15:42:55 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20010409154226.009888b0@server-1> X-Sender: hagen@server-1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) To: "Andreas Matthias" From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: [pdftex] thread primitives Cc: In-Reply-To: <002d01c0c0f5$46c65f20$4db6cac3@kabsi.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 15:42:26 +0200 At 03:02 PM 4/9/01 +0200, Andreas Matthias wrote: >There are two sorts of primitives to create threads: > >1. \pdfthread >2. \pdfstartthread and \pdfendthread > >Will both be maintained in future versions of pdftex? >Is \pdfthread obsolete? if i'm right, it's the reverse, since threads are to be handled by the macro package and concern boxes [like columns in otr] the start/stop is less usefull than the general thread one; there were also problems with nesting, decisions to be made etc so the threads were reimplemented quite some time ago. also, the article thread are not that well defined with respect with their behavior especially since some features depend on the viewer; the auto scaling makes it hard to provide a consistent interface; also, since in pdftex you have control over about everything, you can easily provide a link based alternative Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma@wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 9-Apr-2001 14:04:50-GMT,3623;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA24663 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 08:04:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 0081E2B458; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 16:04:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp8.xs4all.nl (smtp8.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.134]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f39E3wm17687 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 16:03:58 +0200 Received: from server-1.pragma-ade.nl (s340-isdn1709.dial.xs4all.nl [194.109.186.173]) by smtp8.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA13319; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 16:03:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: from laptop-1 (laptop-1.pragma-ade.nl [200.1.1.25]) by server-1.pragma-ade.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA31030; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 15:42:55 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20010409152928.0236bb20@server-1> X-Sender: hagen@server-1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) To: dpstory@uakron.edu From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: [pdftex] Acrobat 5.0 / consequences for pdftex Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: <3AD1777D.22961.C84380@localhost> References: <3.0.6.32.20010409142112.01b96b40@server-1> <3ACF0DB1.25827.1274D78@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 15:29:28 +0200 At 08:49 AM 4/9/01 -0400, Donald Story wrote: >On 9 Apr 2001, at 14:21, Hans Hagen wrote: > >> At 12:53 PM 4/7/01 -0400, Donald Story wrote: >> >> >Also provided on this page are links to the new pdfmark Reference >> >manual for Acrobat 5.0, to the adobe article on what new in the PDF >> >Spec. 1.4. >> >> I took a quick look to see what are the consequences for tex / pdftex: >> >> >> (9) new bookmark properties (color,font) >> >> this joke can be supported by a (new) attr key/value to bookmarks [not sure if >> this key is already there] >> > >I don't think 'joke' is an appropriate description of a feature users of >Acrobat, the commercial product, have requested. Well, for bookmarks to be really usefull, they should be capable of using any font [like forms seem to do now] and even better, to support typeset entries, like xforms so that for instance formulas can be shown. As long as only half of the functionality is there i consider them to be jokes you can add to make a doc a bit more interesting. Concerning feature requests of users: this is a different matter and out of the control of users anyway, since mostly commercially driven, which is okay for a commercial app. Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma@wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 9-Apr-2001 14:11:35-GMT,3337;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA24789 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 08:11:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 4BDD82B45B; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 16:12:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp1.xs4all.nl (smtp1.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.131]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f39EB1m17781 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 16:11:01 +0200 Received: from server-1.pragma-ade.nl (s340-isdn1709.dial.xs4all.nl [194.109.186.173]) by smtp1.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA25782; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 16:10:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: from laptop-1 (laptop-1.pragma-ade.nl [200.1.1.25]) by server-1.pragma-ade.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA31121; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 16:08:07 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20010409160335.00985d30@server-1> X-Sender: hagen@server-1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) To: Martin =?iso-8859-1?Q?Schr=F6der?= From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: [pdftex] Acrobat 5.0 / consequences for pdftex Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: <20010409152341.R7269@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> References: <15057.46520.21716.129729@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <3ACF0DB1.25827.1274D78@localhost> <3AD1777D.22961.C84380@localhost> <15057.46520.21716.129729@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.daimi.au.dk id f39EB1m17781 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 16:03:35 +0200 At 03:23 PM 4/9/01 +0200, Martin Schröder wrote: >On 2001-04-09 14:14:32 +0100, Sebastian Rahtz wrote: >> the obvious question is, how much of the Acrobat5 features can pdftex >> support while keeping the PDF files readable by Acrobat3? Is it all >> hidden in extra keys which old readers will ignore? > >Could be. But older readers will choke once they see the PDF1.4 >in the header. Or you use the versioning feature and produce 1.3 >with additional 1.4 objects. Don't know what 1.3-viewers will do >with this... This can be overloaded by explicitly adding a version entry to the catalog. [new feature since one can edit for instance a 1.2 file into a 1.4 one] Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma@wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 9-Apr-2001 14:14:20-GMT,3354;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA24831 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 08:14:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 5862A2B478; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 16:12:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp1.xs4all.nl (smtp1.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.131]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f39EB1m17785 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 16:11:01 +0200 Received: from server-1.pragma-ade.nl (s340-isdn1709.dial.xs4all.nl [194.109.186.173]) by smtp1.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA25788; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 16:10:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: from laptop-1 (laptop-1.pragma-ade.nl [200.1.1.25]) by server-1.pragma-ade.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA31120; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 16:08:07 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20010409160126.00989cd0@server-1> X-Sender: hagen@server-1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) To: "Sebastian Rahtz" From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: [pdftex] Acrobat 5.0 / consequences for pdftex Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: <15057.46520.21716.129729@gargle.gargle.HOWL> References: <3AD1777D.22961.C84380@localhost> <3ACF0DB1.25827.1274D78@localhost> <3AD1777D.22961.C84380@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 16:01:26 +0200 At 02:14 PM 4/9/01 +0100, Sebastian Rahtz wrote: >the obvious question is, how much of the Acrobat5 features can pdftex >support while keeping the PDF files readable by Acrobat3? Is it all >hidden in extra keys which old readers will ignore? As far as I can see, only the obsolete procset can be a problem. The problem there is that afaik it was never really used by viewers, and pdftex writes a minimal one to the file. Now the spec says to omit it (if i read the 'obsolete' right) or to provide the maximal spec one, which is more than pdftex currently does. So, a \pdfprocset{} primitive would be a decent solution since it would be either empty (default) or filled by the macro package to suit special cases. I assume that v 5 viewers will be clever enough to view old files as well, but one never knows. Maybe GS people know more details. Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma@wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 9-Apr-2001 14:18:10-GMT,3417;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA24882 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 08:18:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 493E62B483; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 16:12:03 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp1.xs4all.nl (smtp1.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.131]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f39EB2m17789 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 16:11:02 +0200 Received: from server-1.pragma-ade.nl (s340-isdn1709.dial.xs4all.nl [194.109.186.173]) by smtp1.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA25795; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 16:10:27 +0200 (CEST) Received: from laptop-1 (laptop-1.pragma-ade.nl [200.1.1.25]) by server-1.pragma-ade.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA31123; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 16:08:07 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20010409160740.02372a60@server-1> X-Sender: hagen@server-1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) To: "Sebastian Rahtz" From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: [pdftex] Acrobat 5.0 / consequences for pdftex Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: <15057.47395.21585.623941@gargle.gargle.HOWL> References: <20010409152341.R7269@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <3ACF0DB1.25827.1274D78@localhost> <3AD1777D.22961.C84380@localhost> <15057.46520.21716.129729@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <20010409152341.R7269@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 16:07:40 +0200 At 02:29 PM 4/9/01 +0100, you wrote: >=?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= writes: > > On 2001-04-09 14:14:32 +0100, Sebastian Rahtz wrote: > > > the obvious question is, how much of the Acrobat5 features can pdftex > > > support while keeping the PDF files readable by Acrobat3? Is it all > > > hidden in extra keys which old readers will ignore? > > > > Could be. But older readers will choke once they see the PDF1.4 > > in the header. Or you use the versioning feature and produce 1.3 > > with additional 1.4 objects. Don't know what 1.3-viewers will do > > with this... > >sigh. i was hoping it would be possible to avoid using a \pdfversion=1.4 >primitive. probably not you can combine it with a catalog entry, but since there are only 1.4 specs and no 5.0 viewers for us to test we cannot check it Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma@wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 9-Apr-2001 14:22:11-GMT,3449;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA24914 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 08:22:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 6B74F2B48A; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 16:13:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from uakron.edu (uakron.edu [130.101.5.4]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f39ECBm17833 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 16:12:11 +0200 Received: from default (atlantic48-189.infoserv.uakron.edu [130.101.6.189]) by uakron.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f39EBVQ22798; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 10:11:31 -0400 (EDT) From: "Donald Story" Organization: The University of Akron To: Hans Hagen , pdftex@tug.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: [pdftex] Acrobat 5.0 / consequences for pdftex Reply-To: dpstory@uakron.edu Message-ID: <3AD18A31.12495.111548C@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <3.0.6.32.20010409152928.0236bb20@server-1> References: <3AD1777D.22961.C84380@localhost> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 10:08:49 -0400 On 9 Apr 2001, at 15:29, Hans Hagen wrote: > > Well, for bookmarks to be really usefull, they should be capable of using any > font [like forms seem to do now] and even better, to support typeset entries, > like xforms so that for instance formulas can be shown. As long as only half > of the functionality is there i consider them to be jokes you can add to make > a doc a bit more interesting. I agree with the desirability to typeset entries with any font and even for typeset entries; however, I don't believe there are any future plans for expanding the current bookmark feature list. The color feature can be more than cosmetic. One can color code the entries: Black (or some other color) for a jump within the current document; brown (or something) for a jump to another document. Red (or something) for a entry that performs some action (for example JavaScript). > Concerning feature requests of users: this is a different matter and out of > the control of users anyway, since mostly commercially driven, which is okay > for a commercial app. > > Hans > Don Dr. D. P. Story / dpstory@uakron.edu / (330) 972-7514 http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/ Dept of Mathematics and Computer Science / University of Akron / Akron, Ohio 44325 AcroTeX Web Site: http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/acrotex.html Site Includes: e-Calculus, Algebra Review in Ten Lessons, Mathematics Games, Pdfmarks:Links & Forms, Using LaTeX to Create Quality PDF Documents for the WWW, Web.sty and Exerquiz.sty Packages for LaTeX, and much, much more. _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 9-Apr-2001 14:26:19-GMT,2219;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA24989 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 08:26:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 232EE2B44B; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 16:23:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ws1.uk.outblaze.com (ws1.uk.outblaze.com [213.161.65.116]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f39EM7m17912 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 16:22:07 +0200 Received: (qmail 9301 invoked by uid 1001); 9 Apr 2001 14:21:31 -0000 Message-ID: <20010409142131.9300.qmail@campus.ie> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 4.104 (Entity 4.117) From: "Fiona Quigley" To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: [pdftex] Creating a background. Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 22:21:28 +0800 Hi, I am creating a pdf document using pdflatex. I have a graphic which I want to use as a background in the document. If any one has any tips on how to do this, or knows of any websites with examples of this, I would be very grateful if they would let me know as soon as possible. Thank you. Fi. -- _______________________________________________ Get a FREE email address with 25MB of space and another 20MB for file storage space along with all the student news and information from around ireland at http://www.campus.ie - the complete website for students. Powered by Outblaze _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 9-Apr-2001 14:33:37-GMT,3422;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA25132 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 08:33:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 11EEE2AE82; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 16:34:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp9.xs4all.nl (smtp9.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.135]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f39EXrm17989 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 16:33:53 +0200 Received: from server-1.pragma-ade.nl (s340-isdn2058.dial.xs4all.nl [194.109.188.10]) by smtp9.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA18054; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 16:33:14 +0200 (CEST) Received: from laptop-1 (laptop-1.pragma-ade.nl [200.1.1.25]) by server-1.pragma-ade.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA31208; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 16:25:13 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20010409162424.02383210@server-1> X-Sender: hagen@server-1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) To: Martin =?iso-8859-1?Q?Schr=F6der?= From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: [pdftex] Acrobat 5.0 / consequences for pdftex Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: <20010409153438.T7269@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> References: <15057.47395.21585.623941@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <3ACF0DB1.25827.1274D78@localhost> <3AD1777D.22961.C84380@localhost> <15057.46520.21716.129729@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <20010409152341.R7269@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <15057.47395.21585.623941@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.daimi.au.dk id f39EXrm17989 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 16:24:24 +0200 At 03:34 PM 4/9/01 +0200, Martin Schröder wrote: >On 2001-04-09 14:29:07 +0100, Sebastian Rahtz wrote: >> sigh. i was hoping it would be possible to avoid using a \pdfversion=1.4 >> primitive. probably not > >In that case I would like a \pdfversion=1.2 primitive too. There that would be there already then, since 1.2 is just an assignment Since tex does not have a data type like that, it would probably be \pdfversion{1.2} % a token list >are enough 3.x Readers out there and on some platforms (e.g. >OS/2) you can't get newer Readers (unless you use GhostScript). I remember that it was discussed as primitive, but i've forgotten the outcome, Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma@wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 9-Apr-2001 14:38:40-GMT,2555;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA25177 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 08:38:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 33DAD2B45E; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 16:35:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from interzone.ucc.ie (interzone.ucc.ie [143.239.1.134]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f39EYKm18012 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 16:34:20 +0200 Received: from swift.ucc.ie (swift.ucc.ie [143.239.211.48]) by interzone.ucc.ie (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA21766; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 15:34:12 +0100 (BST) Received: (from dongen@localhost) by swift.ucc.ie (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id PAA29529; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 15:32:55 +0100 (IST) From: Marc van Dongen To: Fiona Quigley Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] Creating a background. Message-ID: <20010409153253.L20685@cs.ucc.ie> References: <20010409142131.9300.qmail@campus.ie> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010409142131.9300.qmail@campus.ie>; from fquigley@campus.ie on Mon, Apr 09, 2001 at 10:21:28PM +0800 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 15:32:53 +0100 Fiona Quigley (fquigley@campus.ie) wrote: : I am creating a pdf document using pdflatex. I have a graphic which : I want to use as a background in the document. : : If any one has any tips on how to do this, or knows of any websites : with examples of this, I would be very grateful if they would let : me know as soon as possible. Have a look at the everyshi and eso-pic packages. Regards, Marc van Dongen -- Marc van Dongen, CS Dept | phone: +353 21 4903578 University College Cork, NUIC | Fax: +353 21 4903113 College Road, Cork, Ireland | Email: dongen@cs.ucc.ie _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 9-Apr-2001 14:42:11-GMT,2832;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA25223 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 08:42:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id E03542B45B; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 16:39:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.riodata.de ([62.16.139.11]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f39EcVm18046 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 16:38:31 +0200 Received: from artinet.artcom-gmbh.de (62.16.147.178) by mail.riodata.de (5.1.056) id 3A6CE22600024A46 for pdftex@tug.org; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 16:37:55 +0200 Received: (from uartcom@localhost) by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id QAA16085 for tug.org!pdftex; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 16:37:55 +0200 (MEST) >Received: by artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de (Smail3.2 #1) id m14mcmz-004wwRC; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 16:37:09 +0200 (MEST) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] Creating a background. Message-ID: <20010409163709.U7269@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mail-Followup-To: pdftex@tug.org References: <20010409142131.9300.qmail@campus.ie> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010409142131.9300.qmail@campus.ie>; from fquigley@campus.ie on Mon, Apr 09, 2001 at 10:21:28PM +0800 Organization: ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Strasse 8, D-28359 Bremen X-Disclaimer: The views expressed are my own and not necessarily that of my employers. Received: from artcom8 by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 16:37 MES Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 16:37:09 +0200 On 2001-04-09 22:21:28 +0800, Fiona Quigley wrote: > I am creating a pdf document using pdflatex. I have a graphic > which I want to use as a background in the document. > > If any one has any tips on how to do this, or knows of any > websites with examples of this, I would be very grateful if > they would let me know as soon as possible. CTAN:/macros/latex/contrib/supported/ms/contrib/eso-pic* Best regards Martin -- http://www.tm.oneiros.de/calendar/2001/ _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 9-Apr-2001 14:55:31-GMT,2586;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA25454 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 08:55:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id B5AC82AE8B; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 16:56:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from pred.posexperts.com.pl (alpha.posexperts.com.pl [212.244.52.17]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f39EtTm18173 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 16:55:30 +0200 Received: (qmail 5740 invoked by uid 500); 9 Apr 2001 15:01:23 -0000 From: wrobell To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] Acrobat 5.0 / consequences for pdftex Message-ID: <20010409170123.A5548@pred.posexperts.com.pl> Reply-To: wrobell References: <3.0.6.32.20010409142112.01b96b40@server-1> <3ACF0DB1.25827.1274D78@localhost> <3AD1777D.22961.C84380@localhost> <3.0.6.32.20010409152928.0236bb20@server-1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20010409152928.0236bb20@server-1>; from pragma@wxs.nl on Mon, Apr 09, 2001 at 03:29:28PM +0200 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 17:01:23 +0200 On 9 Apr 2001, at 14:21, Hans Hagen wrote: > At 12:53 PM 4/7/01 -0400, Donald Story wrote: > > >Also provided on this page are links to the new pdfmark Reference > >manual for Acrobat 5.0, to the adobe article on what new in the PDF > >Spec. 1.4. > > I took a quick look to see what are the consequences for tex / pdftex: > > > (9) new bookmark properties (color,font) > > this joke can be supported by a (new) attr key/value to bookmarks [not > sure if this key is already there] Can this joke be used to solve problems with non ISO-8869-1 characters, so I could see ISO-8859-2 characters in bookmarks? [...] wrobell _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 9-Apr-2001 15:07:33-GMT,1991;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA25798 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 09:07:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id AC6BB2B456; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 17:08:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mlucom6.urz.uni-halle.de (mlucom6.urz.Uni-Halle.DE [141.48.10.117]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f39F7qm18297 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 17:07:52 +0200 Received: from [141.48.91.197] (zebul.theologie.Uni-Halle.DE [141.48.91.197]) by mlucom6.urz.uni-halle.de (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA05522 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 17:07:17 +0200 (METDST) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: taqfk@mlucom6.urz.uni-halle.de Message-Id: To: pdftex@tug.org From: Thomas Neumann Subject: Re: [pdftex] Creating a background. Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 17:07:19 +0200 Fiona Quigley wrote: > I have a graphic which I want to use as a background in the document. This is not pdf(la)tex specific. Try the `overpic' package from CTAN. Best regards, Thomas -- Thomas Neumann _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 9-Apr-2001 15:08:40-GMT,2549;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA25821 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 09:08:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id D17D02B45B; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 17:08:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.jablotron.cz (fw1.jablotron.cz [212.71.174.67]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f39F7vm18301 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 17:07:57 +0200 Received: (qmail 5094 invoked from network); 9 Apr 2001 15:07:04 -0000 Received: from osoba.jablotron.cz (HELO osoba) (192.168.250.38) by gw.jablotron.cz with SMTP; 9 Apr 2001 15:07:04 -0000 Message-ID: <020101c0c106$a5f5fc60$26faa8c0@jablotron.cz> From: "Jiri Osoba" To: "PDFTeX Mailing List (E-mail)" References: <3.0.6.32.20010409142112.01b96b40@server-1> <3ACF0DB1.25827.1274D78@localhost> <3AD1777D.22961.C84380@localhost> <3.0.6.32.20010409152928.0236bb20@server-1> <20010409170123.A5548@pred.posexperts.com.pl> Subject: Re: [pdftex] Acrobat 5.0 / consequences for pdftex Organization: Jablotron Ltd., R&D department X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 17:06:26 +0200 From: wrobell > > (9) new bookmark properties (color,font) > > > > this joke can be supported by a (new) attr key/value to bookmarks [not > > sure if this key is already there] > > Can this joke be used to solve problems with non ISO-8869-1 characters, > so I could see ISO-8859-2 characters in bookmarks? You can see them in Acrobat 3 without any problems, but you have to use UNICODE. Acrobat 4 (I'm using Win versions) has some problems, but mainly uses correct characters. Jiri. _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 9-Apr-2001 15:41:31-GMT,3465;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA26598 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 09:41:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 703E72AE82; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 17:42:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp7.xs4all.nl (smtp7.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.133]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f39Ffvm18633 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 17:41:57 +0200 Received: from server-1.pragma-ade.nl (s340-modem3304.dial.xs4all.nl [194.109.172.232]) by smtp7.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA11141; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 17:41:17 +0200 (CEST) Received: from laptop-1 (laptop-1.pragma-ade.nl [200.1.1.25]) by server-1.pragma-ade.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA31512; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 17:35:05 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20010409171813.012d2e70@server-1> X-Sender: hagen@server-1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) To: wrobell From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: [pdftex] Acrobat 5.0 / consequences for pdftex Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: <20010409170123.A5548@pred.posexperts.com.pl> References: <3.0.6.32.20010409152928.0236bb20@server-1> <3.0.6.32.20010409142112.01b96b40@server-1> <3ACF0DB1.25827.1274D78@localhost> <3AD1777D.22961.C84380@localhost> <3.0.6.32.20010409152928.0236bb20@server-1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 17:18:13 +0200 At 05:01 PM 4/9/01 +0200, wrobell wrote: >On 9 Apr 2001, at 14:21, Hans Hagen wrote: >> At 12:53 PM 4/7/01 -0400, Donald Story wrote: >> >> >Also provided on this page are links to the new pdfmark Reference >> >manual for Acrobat 5.0, to the adobe article on what new in the PDF >> >Spec. 1.4. >> >> I took a quick look to see what are the consequences for tex / pdftex: >> >> >> (9) new bookmark properties (color,font) >> >> this joke can be supported by a (new) attr key/value to bookmarks [not >> sure if this key is already there] > >Can this joke be used to solve problems with non ISO-8869-1 characters, >so I could see ISO-8859-2 characters in bookmarks? there are just some /F 0|1|2 entries to choose between normal italic and bold; proper il1/2 support can be handled by unicode bookmarks but that's for macro packages to deal with, so that already was available in v 1.3 Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma@wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 9-Apr-2001 17:02:31-GMT,2494;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA28378 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 11:02:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 88D5E2AE8C; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 19:03:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail4.ox.ac.uk [163.1.2.33]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f39H2Xm19021 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 19:02:33 +0200 Received: from heraldgate2.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.50] helo=frontend2.herald.ox.ac.uk ident=exim) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 14mf38-0006bf-00; Mon, 09 Apr 2001 18:01:58 +0100 Received: from spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.15.17]) by frontend2.herald.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 14mf37-0000MK-00; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 18:01:57 +0100 From: Sebastian Rahtz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15057.60190.303002.503036@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> To: pragma@wxs.nl Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] Acrobat 5.0 / consequences for pdftex In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20010409160740.02372a60@server-1> References: <20010409152341.R7269@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <3ACF0DB1.25827.1274D78@localhost> <3AD1777D.22961.C84380@localhost> <15057.46520.21716.129729@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <3.0.6.32.20010409160740.02372a60@server-1> X-Mailer: VM 6.86 under Emacs 20.7.2 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 18:02:22 +0100 Hans Hagen writes: > > you can combine it with a catalog entry, but since there are only 1.4 specs > and no 5.0 viewers for us to test we cannot check it > is it the intention that the free reader stays at version 4, do you think? thats how I read the Adobe site. sebastian _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 9-Apr-2001 17:22:32-GMT,2474;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA28948 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 11:22:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 621BC2B452; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 19:23:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fep21-svc.tin.it (mta21-acc.tin.it [212.216.176.74]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f39HM6m19220 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 19:22:06 +0200 Received: from tin.it ([212.216.97.52]) by fep21-svc.tin.it (InterMail vM.4.01.03.13 201-229-121-113) with ESMTP id <20010409172131.BEA10372.fep21-svc.tin.it@tin.it> for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 19:21:31 +0200 Message-ID: <3AD1EFA5.C2000902@tin.it> From: Gianluigi Bertin Reply-To: gbertin@tin.it Organization: KWL X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] Acrobat 5.0 / consequences for pdftex References: <20010409152341.R7269@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <3ACF0DB1.25827.1274D78@localhost> <3AD1777D.22961.C84380@localhost> <15057.46520.21716.129729@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <3.0.6.32.20010409160740.02372a60@server-1> <15057.60190.303002.503036@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 19:21:41 +0200 Sebastian Rahtz wrote: > Hans Hagen writes: > > > > you can combine it with a catalog entry, but since there are only 1.4 specs > > and no 5.0 viewers for us to test we cannot check it > > > is it the intention that the free reader stays at version 4, do you > think? No, I've got the (free) Acrobat Reader 5 with the (commercial) Acrobat 5 upgrade disc. glb _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 9-Apr-2001 17:49:31-GMT,2613;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA29715 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 11:49:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id D0AD32AE82; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 19:50:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from magnolia.wanadoo.fr (smtp-rt-11.wanadoo.fr [193.252.19.62]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f39HnIm19355 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 19:49:18 +0200 Received: from citronier.wanadoo.fr (193.252.19.222) by magnolia.wanadoo.fr; 9 Apr 2001 19:48:43 +0200 Received: from localhost.localdomain (193.249.245.213) by citronier.wanadoo.fr; 9 Apr 2001 19:48:39 +0200 From: Michael Chapman X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" To: pdftex@tug.org References: <20010409142131.9300.qmail@campus.ie> In-Reply-To: <20010409142131.9300.qmail@campus.ie> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01040918282600.19878@localhost.localdomain> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: [pdftex] "\frontmatter" and page-numbering. Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 18:28:25 +0200 I had always considered in a "feature" of Acroread that page numbers in the bottom-line box were usually out of sync. with the document. I.e. the 'Reader strictly numbered from "1" and allowed for no title pages or front matter. However I see from Adobe's PDF14Deltas.pdf (one of Donald Story's recent references) that it is possible to have "i, ii, ii, . . . viii, 1, 2 . . . 230" or whatever. (The file doesn't _say_ you can do it (or how) it is just a practical example of it being done.) Using \frontmatter and \mainmatter (in "book"} on LaTex achieves this for printed numbers but not for the Acroread bottom line. Is there something I can do to my file . . if not can I add this to the pdftex Users' Wish List? Thanks, Michael Chapman (France). _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 9-Apr-2001 17:54:32-GMT,2690;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA29838 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 11:54:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id CE2EE2B454; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 19:55:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk (toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk [163.1.20.20]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f39HsNm19444 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 19:54:23 +0200 Received: from max146.public.ox.ac.uk (max146.public.ox.ac.uk [192.76.27.146]) by toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id SAA24422; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 18:53:45 +0100 (BST) From: Prof Brian D Ripley To: Gianluigi Bertin Cc: Subject: Re: [pdftex] Acrobat 5.0 / consequences for pdftex In-Reply-To: <3AD1EFA5.C2000902@tin.it> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 18:55:31 +0100 (BST) On Mon, 9 Apr 2001, Gianluigi Bertin wrote: > Sebastian Rahtz wrote: > > > Hans Hagen writes: > > > > > > you can combine it with a catalog entry, but since there are only 1.4 specs > > > and no 5.0 viewers for us to test we cannot check it > > > > > is it the intention that the free reader stays at version 4, do you > > think? > > No, I've got the (free) Acrobat Reader 5 with the (commercial) Acrobat 5 upgrade > disc. The obvious area exists on the ftp site but is empty, for example ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/acrobatreader/win/5.x/ is where the pattern says Windows versions will be and the directory exists. -- Brian D. Ripley, ripley@stats.ox.ac.uk Professor of Applied Statistics, http://www.stats.ox.ac.uk/~ripley/ University of Oxford, Tel: +44 1865 272861 (self) 1 South Parks Road, +44 1865 272860 (secr) Oxford OX1 3TG, UK Fax: +44 1865 272595 _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 9-Apr-2001 18:07:34-GMT,2269;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA00176 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 12:07:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 1579F2B452; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 20:08:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fep43-svc.tin.it ([212.216.176.239]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f39I7Em19534 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 20:07:14 +0200 Received: from tin.it ([212.216.97.4]) by fep43-svc.tin.it (InterMail vM.4.01.03.13 201-229-121-113) with ESMTP id <20010409180456.UYON744.fep43-svc.tin.it@tin.it>; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 20:04:56 +0200 Message-ID: <3AD1FA2F.C437968F@tin.it> From: Gianluigi Bertin Reply-To: gbertin@tin.it Organization: KWL X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Prof Brian D Ripley Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] Acrobat 5.0 / consequences for pdftex References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 20:06:40 +0200 Prof Brian D Ripley wrote: > The obvious area exists on the ftp site but is empty, for example > > ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/acrobatreader/win/5.x/ > > is where the pattern says Windows versions will be and the directory > exists. This is not empty: ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/acrobatreader/mac/5.x/ glb _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 9-Apr-2001 18:10:33-GMT,3820;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA00231 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 12:10:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 9DC012AE8B; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 20:11:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fep43-svc.tin.it ([212.216.176.239]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f39IAmm19592 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 20:10:48 +0200 Received: from tin.it ([212.216.97.4]) by fep43-svc.tin.it (InterMail vM.4.01.03.13 201-229-121-113) with ESMTP id <20010409180832.UZAM744.fep43-svc.tin.it@tin.it>; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 20:08:32 +0200 Message-ID: <3AD1FB08.BD8123D2@tin.it> From: Gianluigi Bertin Reply-To: gbertin@tin.it Organization: KWL X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Chapman Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] "\frontmatter" and page-numbering. References: <20010409142131.9300.qmail@campus.ie> <01040918282600.19878@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 20:10:17 +0200 Michael Chapman wrote: > I had always considered in a "feature" of Acroread that page numbers in the > bottom-line box were usually out of sync. with the document. I.e. the 'Reader > strictly numbered from "1" and allowed for no title pages or front matter. > > However I see from Adobe's PDF14Deltas.pdf (one of Donald Story's recent > references) that it is possible to have "i, ii, ii, . . . viii, 1, 2 . . . > 230" or whatever. (The file doesn't _say_ you can do it (or how) it is just > a practical example of it being done.) > It's in Acrobat 5: "Acrobat allows you to number or renumber the pages in your documents in a variety of ways.You can specify a different numbering style for groups of pages, for instance, 1, 2, 3, or i, ii, iii, or a, b, c.You can also customize the numbering system by adding a prefix. For example, the numbering for chapter 1 could be 1-1, 1-2, 1-3, and so on, and for chapter 2, it could be 2-1, 2-2, 2-3, and so on. To renumber one or more pages: 1 In the Thumbnails palette of the navigation pane, choose Number Pages from the Thumbnails palette menu. Or choose Document > Number Pages. 2 Specify a page range in one of the following ways: • Select All to specify the entire document. • Select Selected to specify the thumbnails selected in the Thumbnails palette. Selected thumbnails must be contiguous. • Select From to type in a range of pages. 3 Select one of the following: • Begin New Section to start a new numbering sequence. Choose a style from the pop-up menu, and enter a starting page number for the section. Specify a prefix, if desired. • Extend Numbering Used in Preceding Section to Selected Pages to remove the numbering currently assigned to the selected pages.The numbering used for the previous set of pages will be extended to cover the selected pages. 4 Click OK." glb _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 9-Apr-2001 20:23:31-GMT,2828;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA02468 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 14:23:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 29AE32B44F; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 22:24:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from hal.kabsi.at (charme.kabsi.at [195.202.128.72]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f39KNrm20193 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 22:23:53 +0200 Received: from gobin (cm.med.3284842061.kabelnet.net [195.202.182.77]) by hal.kabsi.at (8.10.2/) with SMTP id f39KMn80001153154 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 22:22:49 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <001201c0c132$ebe73e60$4db6cac3@kabsi.at> From: "Andreas Matthias" To: References: <20010409142131.9300.qmail@campus.ie> <01040918282600.19878@localhost.localdomain> Subject: Re: [pdftex] "\frontmatter" and page-numbering. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 22:23:21 +0200 "Michael Chapman" wrote: > > I had always considered in a "feature" of Acroread that page numbers in the > bottom-line box were usually out of sync. with the document. I.e. the 'Reader > strictly numbered from "1" and allowed for no title pages or front matter. > > However I see from Adobe's PDF14Deltas.pdf (one of Donald Story's recent > references) that it is possible to have "i, ii, ii, . . . viii, 1, 2 . . . > 230" or whatever. (The file doesn't _say_ you can do it (or how) it is just > a practical example of it being done.) > > Using \frontmatter and \mainmatter (in "book"} on LaTex achieves this for > printed numbers but not for the Acroread bottom line. > > Is there something I can do to my file . . if not can I add this to > the pdftex Users' Wish List? hyperref can do this: \usepackage[plainpages=false, pdfpagelabels]{hyperref} Ciao Andreas _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 9-Apr-2001 21:53:31-GMT,2418;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA03976 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 15:53:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id B2F8F2B44F; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 23:54:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from nx5.HRZ.Uni-Dortmund.DE (nx5.HRZ.Uni-Dortmund.DE [129.217.131.21]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f39LrUm20610 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 23:53:31 +0200 Received: from sx2.hrz.uni-dortmund.de by nx5.HRZ.Uni-Dortmund.DE via smtp-local with ESMTP; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 23:52:42 +0200 Received: from rigel.univie.ac.at (dial-143163.HRZ.Uni-Dortmund.DE [129.217.143.163]) by sx2.hrz.uni-dortmund.de (8.10.2+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f39Lqd524723; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 23:52:40 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from localhost (sx0005@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rigel.univie.ac.at (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA18939; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 15:01:28 +0200 Message-Id: <20010409.150128.03995578.wl@gnu.org> To: piskor@mercury.ci.uw.edu.pl Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] problems with dnp japanese fonts From: Werner LEMBERG In-Reply-To: <000901c0c070$8150cc00$9b3ca0d4@mic> References: <000901c0c070$8150cc00$9b3ca0d4@mic> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.95b99 on Emacs 21.0.103.1 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 15:01:28 +0200 (CEST) > Another problem - I don't know how to build pdf file with type1 > fonts that were created by ttf2pfb + t1asm (set of subfonts created > from ttf unicode font). Have you tried ttf2pt1? ttf2pfb is no longer maintained. Werner _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 10-Apr-2001 5:57:31-GMT,3873;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA11107 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 23:57:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 9736B2AE8B; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 07:58:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from moutvdom01.kundenserver.de (moutvdom01.kundenserver.de [195.20.224.200]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3A5vmm22562 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 07:57:48 +0200 Received: from [195.20.224.208] (helo=mrvdom01.schlund.de) by moutvdom01.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 14mr9J-0007k7-00; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 07:57:09 +0200 Received: from pd9502cd5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([217.80.44.213] helo=servus) by mrvdom01.schlund.de with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 14mr9G-00088z-00; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 07:57:06 +0200 From: "Ulrich Dirr" To: "Han The Thanh" Cc: "pdfTeX" Subject: [pdftex] problems with embedded pdf-pictures Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 07:55:58 +0200 Hi. To be sure my pictures have the correct colours and colour type I'm using the EyeDropper plug-in from EnFocus (PitStop). The duotone PhotoShop pictures (black and magenta) were saved as PDF files and then included into the document using graphicx. When I'm controlling the colours I got all colour information except for the pictures! I contacted the support from EnFocus to help me and they've sent me the following two email which might be useful: (1) > The images are inside a form. There are different > types of forms. If the image contained OPI > information, it would also be located in a form, but > this would be solvable with PitStop. Delete OPI would > enable Eyedropper to measure these images. > > In this case the form coming from Unix, so PitStop > can't solve this. So Eyedropper doesn't recognize the > image which is surrounded by the form. But the problem > isn't caused by the duotone. > I logged this on our wishlist, as I think that > Eyedropper should at least tell you that this is a > form. (2) > The best way for PDFTex would be to generate the PDF > without the use of Forms. I don't know how PDFTex > generates it's PDF, so I can't give you the exact > details to prohibit this. > These form objects are often not interpreted in > applications such as our Eyedropper plug-in. The image > is located one level lower as a regular image. Because > of a problem in Acrobat, Eyedropper can't go trough > this layer to measure the colors. This will probably > be fixed in the next version of Acrobat. So now I'm wondering how to solve this problem? Regards, Ulrich Dirr -- Art & Satz Ulrich Dirr Arnimstraße 9 81369 München Germany/Deutschland -- fon (+49 89) 743 30 60 fax (+49 89) 743 30 61 email ud@art-satz.de -- -=*:-) _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 10-Apr-2001 7:08:31-GMT,2463;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA11952 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 01:08:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 993422AE8C; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 09:09:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from aleph.net.uniovi.es (aleph.net.uniovi.es [156.35.11.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3A78um22908 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 09:08:56 +0200 Received: from bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es (bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es [156.35.56.38]) by aleph.net.uniovi.es (PMDF V6.0-24 #45227) with ESMTP id <01K289JHG99S000SQF@aleph.net.uniovi.es> for pdftex@tug.org; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 09:08:20 +0200 (MET) Received: from localhost (carmenes@localhost) by bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f3A77pf29536; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 09:07:51 +0200 From: Ricardo Sanchez Carmenes Subject: Re: [pdftex] Acrobat 5.0 / consequences for pdftex In-reply-to: X-Sender: carmenes@bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es To: Prof Brian D Ripley Cc: Gianluigi Bertin , pdftex@tug.org Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 09:07:50 +0200 (CEST) On Mon, 9 Apr 2001, Prof Brian D Ripley wrote: > The obvious area exists on the ftp site but is empty, for example > > ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/acrobatreader/win/5.x/ > > is where the pattern says Windows versions will be and the directory > exists. And the corresponding web area says "coming soon". Ricardo. _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 10-Apr-2001 7:14:31-GMT,2762;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA11986 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 01:14:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id C5B532B452; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 09:15:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from aleph.net.uniovi.es (aleph.net.uniovi.es [156.35.11.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3A7EVm23004 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 09:14:31 +0200 Received: from bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es (bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es [156.35.56.38]) by aleph.net.uniovi.es (PMDF V6.0-24 #45227) with ESMTP id <01K289QF5N72000SQF@aleph.net.uniovi.es> for pdftex@tug.org; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 09:13:55 +0200 (MET) Received: from localhost (carmenes@localhost) by bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f3A7DQk29693; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 09:13:26 +0200 From: Ricardo Sanchez Carmenes Subject: Re: [pdftex] Acrobat 5.0 / consequences for pdftex In-reply-to: X-Sender: carmenes@bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es To: Prof Brian D Ripley Cc: Gianluigi Bertin , pdftex@tug.org Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 09:13:26 +0200 (CEST) On Tue, 10 Apr 2001, Ricardo Sanchez Carmenes wrote: > On Mon, 9 Apr 2001, Prof Brian D Ripley wrote: > > > The obvious area exists on the ftp site but is empty, for example > > > > ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/acrobatreader/win/5.x/ > > > > is where the pattern says Windows versions will be and the directory > > exists. > > And the corresponding web area says "coming soon". And I forgot to add that the success of PDF is very much dependent on the availability of the free reader, so Adobe would comit a commercial suicide if they ever decide not support free readers any more. Ricardo. _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 10-Apr-2001 7:31:31-GMT,2923;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA12075 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 01:31:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id A97A02B457; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 09:32:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.riodata.de ([62.16.139.11]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3A7Vem23113 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 09:31:40 +0200 Received: from artinet.artcom-gmbh.de (62.16.147.178) by mail.riodata.de (5.1.056) id 3A6CE22600024F4A for pdftex@tug.org; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 09:31:05 +0200 Received: (from uartcom@localhost) by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id JAA22209 for tug.org!pdftex; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 09:31:04 +0200 (MEST) >Received: by artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de (Smail3.2 #1) id m14msbm-004wwRC; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 09:30:38 +0200 (MEST) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] "\frontmatter" and page-numbering. Message-ID: <20010410093038.X7269@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mail-Followup-To: pdftex@tug.org References: <20010409142131.9300.qmail@campus.ie> <01040918282600.19878@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <01040918282600.19878@localhost.localdomain>; from mchapman@mchapman.com on Mon, Apr 09, 2001 at 06:28:25PM +0200 Organization: ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Strasse 8, D-28359 Bremen X-Disclaimer: The views expressed are my own and not necessarily that of my employers. Received: from artcom8 by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 09:31 MES Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 09:30:38 +0200 On 2001-04-09 18:28:25 +0200, Michael Chapman wrote: > However I see from Adobe's PDF14Deltas.pdf (one of Donald Story's recent > references) that it is possible to have "i, ii, ii, . . . viii, 1, 2 . . . > 230" or whatever. (The file doesn't _say_ you can do it (or how) it is just > a practical example of it being done.) It's already possible in PDF 1.3 with page labels (section 7.3.1 of the PDF reference). Best regards Martin -- http://www.tm.oneiros.de/calendar/2001/ _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 10-Apr-2001 8:11:32-GMT,3071;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA12277 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 02:11:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 653892AE82; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 10:12:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp9.xs4all.nl (smtp9.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.135]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3A8BPm23367 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 10:11:25 +0200 Received: from server-1.pragma-ade.nl (s340-isdn2228.dial.xs4all.nl [194.109.188.180]) by smtp9.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA18366; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 10:10:49 +0200 (CEST) Received: from laptop-1 (laptop-1.pragma-ade.nl [200.1.1.25]) by server-1.pragma-ade.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA01943; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 10:03:30 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20010410093822.012dba50@server-1> X-Sender: hagen@server-1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) To: gbertin@tin.it From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: [pdftex] Acrobat 5.0 / consequences for pdftex Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: <3AD1EFA5.C2000902@tin.it> References: <20010409152341.R7269@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <3ACF0DB1.25827.1274D78@localhost> <3AD1777D.22961.C84380@localhost> <15057.46520.21716.129729@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <3.0.6.32.20010409160740.02372a60@server-1> <15057.60190.303002.503036@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 09:38:22 +0200 At 07:21 PM 4/9/01 +0200, Gianluigi Bertin wrote: >Sebastian Rahtz wrote: > >> Hans Hagen writes: >> > >> > you can combine it with a catalog entry, but since there are only 1.4 specs >> > and no 5.0 viewers for us to test we cannot check it >> > >> is it the intention that the free reader stays at version 4, do you >> think? > >No, I've got the (free) Acrobat Reader 5 with the (commercial) Acrobat 5 upgrade >disc. Do you have any idea when the reader will be available? Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma@wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 10-Apr-2001 8:12:03-GMT,3817;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA12294 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 02:12:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 91DD92B452; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 10:12:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp9.xs4all.nl (smtp9.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.135]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3A8BQm23371 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 10:11:26 +0200 Received: from server-1.pragma-ade.nl (s340-isdn2228.dial.xs4all.nl [194.109.188.180]) by smtp9.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA18373; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 10:10:50 +0200 (CEST) Received: from laptop-1 (laptop-1.pragma-ade.nl [200.1.1.25]) by server-1.pragma-ade.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA01944; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 10:03:30 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20010410094724.012dfcc0@server-1> X-Sender: hagen@server-1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) To: Michael Chapman From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: [pdftex] "\frontmatter" and page-numbering. Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: <01040918282600.19878@localhost.localdomain> References: <20010409142131.9300.qmail@campus.ie> <20010409142131.9300.qmail@campus.ie> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 09:47:24 +0200 At 06:28 PM 4/9/01 +0200, Michael Chapman wrote: > >I had always considered in a "feature" of Acroread that page numbers in the >bottom-line box were usually out of sync. with the document. I.e. the 'Reader >strictly numbered from "1" and allowed for no title pages or front matter. for some undocumented reason internally the page number starts at 0 [which is kind of strange from the perspective of documents]. >However I see from Adobe's PDF14Deltas.pdf (one of Donald Story's recent >references) that it is possible to have "i, ii, ii, . . . viii, 1, 2 . . . >230" or whatever. (The file doesn't _say_ you can do it (or how) it is just >a practical example of it being done.) that was already a 1.3 feature, unfortunately not a page attribute but a datastructure to be build and added to the catalog >Using \frontmatter and \mainmatter (in "book"} on LaTex achieves this for >printed numbers but not for the Acroread bottom line. > >Is there something I can do to my file . . if not can I add this to >the pdftex Users' Wish List? this has nothing to do with pdftex, and can be implemented using macro. [actually i did but rejected it because sometimes docs have multiple parts with same number ranges which is confusing, although there is a kind of prefixing too, but mapping all the typeset things onto simple pdf string sis not always funny] Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma@wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 10-Apr-2001 9:24:31-GMT,2429;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA12826 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 03:24:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id AFDE82AE8C; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 11:25:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz ([147.251.4.33]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3A9Ohm23958 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 11:24:44 +0200 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA09034; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 11:22:53 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA14434; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 11:22:52 +0200 (MET DST) From: Han The Thanh To: Andreas Matthias Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] thread primitives Message-ID: <20010410112252.G4980@anxur.fi.muni.cz> References: <002d01c0c0f5$46c65f20$4db6cac3@kabsi.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <002d01c0c0f5$46c65f20$4db6cac3@kabsi.at>; from amat@kabsi.at on Mon, Apr 09, 2001 at 03:02:04PM +0200 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 11:22:52 +0200 > There are two sorts of primitives to create threads: > > 1. \pdfthread > 2. \pdfstartthread and \pdfendthread > > Will both be maintained in future versions of pdftex? > Is \pdfthread obsolete? yes both will be supported. \pdfthread is not obsolete. The discussion behind the syntax of those commands is a little long -- I would recommend using \pdfthread but in some cases it maybe more comfortable to use the second ones. HTH, Thanh _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 10-Apr-2001 21:30:31-GMT,2767;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA23063 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 15:30:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 2C12E2AE8B; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 23:31:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mta8 (mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.23]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3ALUNm27641 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 23:30:23 +0200 Received: from wesley.springies.nom (ool-18bad1dd.dyn.optonline.net [24.186.209.221]) by mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.0 Patch 2 (built Dec 14 2000)) with ESMTP id <0GBL00A3PID176@mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for pdftex@tug.org; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 17:29:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ats by wesley.springies.nom with local (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian)) id 14n5hp-0000dB-00 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 17:29:45 -0400 From: Alan Shutko In-reply-to: <3ACF0DB1.25827.1274D78@localhost> To: pdftex@tug.org Message-id: <87puekmojr.fsf@wesley.springies.nom> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT User-Agent: Gnus/5.090001 (Oort Gnus v0.01) Emacs/21.0.102 Lines: 17 References: <3ACF0DB1.25827.1274D78@localhost> Subject: [pdftex] Re: What's new with Acrobat 5.0 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 17:29:43 -0400 Donald Story writes: > I just uploaded a new article "What new with Acrobat 5.0". In this > short article, I'lve hightlighted some of the things that would be of > interest to TeX/LaTeX users. See One thing I didn't see mentioned is "Tagged PDF". I first found this mentioned at http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readerforpalm.html, to allow reflow when breaking it down for their Palm "Acrobat" reader. I haven't seen this mentioned anywhere else, but it would be useful for TeX/LaTeX to produce such files.... Does anyone know more about this? -- Alan Shutko - In a variety of flavors! For a holy stint, a moth of the cloth gave up his woolens for lint. _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 10-Apr-2001 22:21:31-GMT,3343;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA23913 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 16:21:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 2A0952AE8C; Wed, 11 Apr 2001 00:22:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from math.berkeley.edu (gold.Math.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.58.61]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3AML7m28107 for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2001 00:21:07 +0200 Received: from math.berkeley.edu (ipanema.Math.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.58.137]) by math.berkeley.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA17689; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 15:20:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3AD386DF.F25EE0F6@math.berkeley.edu> From: Paulo Ney de Souza Reply-To: desouza@math.berkeley.edu Organization: U.C. Berkeley Math. Department. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.7 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alan Shutko Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] Re: What's new with Acrobat 5.0 References: <3ACF0DB1.25827.1274D78@localhost> <87puekmojr.fsf@wesley.springies.nom> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 15:19:11 -0700 Many of the newer devices that are showing up now have "reflow" as a built in necessity, including the PDF Reader for Palm's and Microsoft Reader for PocketPC and Windows in general. This seems to be in opposite to the course that TeX has always tracked on, where the format of the page is defined at the time TeX is run (even the file name that is produced DVI invokes something that is not device dependent). It will be interesting to see how these two are going to come together ... Paulo Ney Alan Shutko wrote: > > Donald Story writes: > > > I just uploaded a new article "What new with Acrobat 5.0". In this > > short article, I'lve hightlighted some of the things that would be of > > interest to TeX/LaTeX users. See > > One thing I didn't see mentioned is "Tagged PDF". I first found this > mentioned at http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readerforpalm.html, > to allow reflow when breaking it down for their Palm "Acrobat" > reader. I haven't seen this mentioned anywhere else, but it would be > useful for TeX/LaTeX to produce such files.... > > Does anyone know more about this? > > -- > Alan Shutko - In a variety of flavors! > For a holy stint, a moth of the cloth gave up his woolens for lint. > _______________________________________________ > pdftex mailing list > pdftex@tug.org > http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 11-Apr-2001 1:05:31-GMT,3256;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA25579 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 19:05:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id CD2542AE8C; Wed, 11 Apr 2001 03:06:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from uakron.edu (uakron.edu [130.101.5.4]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3B15hm28897 for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2001 03:05:43 +0200 Received: from default (erie9-9.comp.uakron.edu [130.101.6.9]) by uakron.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f3B153k10701; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 21:05:03 -0400 (EDT) From: "Donald Story" Organization: The University of Akron To: Alan Shutko , pdftex@tug.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: [pdftex] Re: What's new with Acrobat 5.0 Reply-To: dpstory@uakron.edu Message-ID: <3AD374DB.19380.1329274@localhost> Priority: normal References: <3ACF0DB1.25827.1274D78@localhost> In-reply-to: <87puekmojr.fsf@wesley.springies.nom> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 21:02:19 -0400 On 10 Apr 2001, at 17:29, Alan Shutko wrote: > Donald Story writes: > > > I just uploaded a new article "What new with Acrobat 5.0". In this > > short article, I'lve hightlighted some of the things that would be of > > interest to TeX/LaTeX users. See > > One thing I didn't see mentioned is "Tagged PDF". I first found this > mentioned at http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readerforpalm.html, > to allow reflow when breaking it down for their Palm "Acrobat" > reader. I haven't seen this mentioned anywhere else, but it would be > useful for TeX/LaTeX to produce such files.... > > Does anyone know more about this? > I don't know much more. I've seen a demonstration of reflow on a Palm. I don't see the point myself. Reflow and see half-dozen large words, or a dozen tiny words. As time permits, I plan to explore the pdfmarks for marked content and logical structure. dps Dr. D. P. Story / dpstory@uakron.edu / (330) 972-7514 http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/ Dept of Mathematics and Computer Science / University of Akron / Akron, Ohio 44325 AcroTeX Web Site: http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/acrotex.html Site Includes: e-Calculus, Algebra Review in Ten Lessons, Mathematics Games, Pdfmarks:Links & Forms, Using LaTeX to Create Quality PDF Documents for the WWW, Web.sty and Exerquiz.sty Packages for LaTeX, and much, much more. _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 11-Apr-2001 2:53:31-GMT,2945;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA26450 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 20:53:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 06F2E2AE8C; Wed, 11 Apr 2001 04:54:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mta8 (mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.23]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3B2rFm29450 for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2001 04:53:15 +0200 Received: from wesley.springies.nom (ool-18bad1dd.dyn.optonline.net [24.186.209.221]) by mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.0 Patch 2 (built Dec 14 2000)) with ESMTP id <0GBL00JIUXB5ZP@mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for pdftex@tug.org; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 22:52:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ats by wesley.springies.nom with local (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian)) id 14nAkK-0000Nv-00 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 22:52:40 -0400 From: Alan Shutko In-reply-to: <3AD386DF.F25EE0F6@math.berkeley.edu> To: pdftex@tug.org Message-id: <87snjgfhj3.fsf@wesley.springies.nom> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT User-Agent: Gnus/5.090001 (Oort Gnus v0.01) Emacs/21.0.102 Lines: 16 References: <3ACF0DB1.25827.1274D78@localhost> <87puekmojr.fsf@wesley.springies.nom> <3AD386DF.F25EE0F6@math.berkeley.edu> Subject: [pdftex] Re: What's new with Acrobat 5.0 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 22:52:39 -0400 Paulo Ney de Souza writes: > Many of the newer devices that are showing up now have "reflow" > as a built in necessity, including the PDF Reader for Palm's and > Microsoft Reader for PocketPC and Windows in general. This seems > to be in opposite to the course that TeX has always tracked on, OTOH, TeX does know the structure of the page (what comes before what, etc.) In LaTeX, even more of the structure is in the source file, so it seems plausible that a macro package could pass this info into the PDF file so that small devices can reflow (and it's accessible to screen readers and such) but you can get a nicely typeset output, too. -- Alan Shutko - In a variety of flavors! Whenever I feel like exercise, I lie down until the feeling passes. _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 11-Apr-2001 3:25:31-GMT,3023;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA26790 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 21:25:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 300642AE8F; Wed, 11 Apr 2001 05:26:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mta4 (mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.10]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3B3Pwm29632 for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2001 05:25:58 +0200 Received: from wesley.springies.nom (ool-18bad1dd.dyn.optonline.net [24.186.209.221]) by mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.0 Patch 2 (built Dec 14 2000)) with ESMTP id <0GBL00C9DYLRCQ@mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for pdftex@tug.org; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 23:20:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ats by wesley.springies.nom with local (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian)) id 14nBB1-0000TX-00 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 23:20:15 -0400 From: Alan Shutko In-reply-to: <3AD374DB.19380.1329274@localhost> To: pdftex@tug.org Message-id: <878zl8i0m4.fsf@wesley.springies.nom> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT User-Agent: Gnus/5.090001 (Oort Gnus v0.01) Emacs/21.0.102 Lines: 25 References: <3ACF0DB1.25827.1274D78@localhost> <3AD374DB.19380.1329274@localhost> Subject: [pdftex] Re: What's new with Acrobat 5.0 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 23:20:14 -0400 Donald Story writes: > I don't know much more. I've seen a demonstration of reflow on a Palm. > I don't see the point myself. Reflow and see half-dozen large words, or > a dozen tiny words. I did see more information in the file format updates. It really has a bunch of good uses: * Easy to pull out text, rather than doing pdftotext on a two-column doc and having to load it into emacs in 2-column mode to sort it out * Accessibility, of course * Finally answer all those questions about "How to convert from PDF to RTF" The reflow itself doesn't really excite me, but creating great PDFs does. One of the reasons I can still use TeX for a lot of things is that I can create excellent PDFs (bookmarks, links, thumbnails, etc) that work for anyone, with ease. -- Alan Shutko - In a variety of flavors! The most hopelessly stupid man is he who is not aware that he is wise. _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 11-Apr-2001 7:04:30-GMT,2746;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA28726 for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2001 01:04:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 880A42AE8B; Wed, 11 Apr 2001 09:05:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from austin.jhcloos.com (austin.jhcloos.com [206.224.83.202]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3B74rm30472 for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2001 09:04:53 +0200 Received: by austin.jhcloos.com (Postfix, from userid 500) id 196262B1FD; Wed, 11 Apr 2001 07:04:17 +0000 (UTC) To: Hans Hagen Cc: gbertin@tin.it, pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] Acrobat 5.0 / consequences for pdftex References: <20010409152341.R7269@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <3ACF0DB1.25827.1274D78@localhost> <3AD1777D.22961.C84380@localhost> <15057.46520.21716.129729@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <3.0.6.32.20010409160740.02372a60@server-1> <15057.60190.303002.503036@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> <3.0.6.32.20010410093822.012dba50@server-1> From: "James H. Cloos Jr." In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20010410093822.012dba50@server-1> (Hans Hagen's message of "Tue, 10 Apr 2001 09:38:22 +0200") Message-ID: Lines: 18 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: 11 Apr 2001 02:04:17 -0500 >>>>> "Hans" == Hans Hagen writes: Hans> Do you have any idea when the reader will be available? I just saw a post on another forum indicating that 5.0 reader will be available for download sometime after April 17. Federal and state income tax is due on the 16th; they are concerned that the deluge of upgrade-to-5.0 downloads and the deluge of got-my- tax-forms-now-I-need-to-print-them downloads would overwhelm their servers.... (They appear to be using a reasonable platform; must be bandwidth issues.) -JimC -- James H. Cloos, Jr. 1024D/ED7DAEA6 E9E9 F828 61A4 6EA9 0F2B 63E7 997A 9F17 ED7D AEA6 _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 11-Apr-2001 7:41:30-GMT,3331;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA28938 for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2001 01:41:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id A7DAB2AE8F; Wed, 11 Apr 2001 09:42:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp3.xs4all.nl (smtp3.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.132]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3B7fDm30691 for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2001 09:41:13 +0200 Received: from server-1.pragma-ade.nl (s340-isdn1670.dial.xs4all.nl [194.109.186.134]) by smtp3.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA19765; Wed, 11 Apr 2001 09:40:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: from laptop-1 (laptop-1.pragma-ade.nl [200.1.1.25]) by server-1.pragma-ade.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA06378; Wed, 11 Apr 2001 09:34:10 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20010411092149.01464100@server-1> X-Sender: hagen@server-1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) To: Alan Shutko From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: [pdftex] Re: What's new with Acrobat 5.0 Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: <87puekmojr.fsf@wesley.springies.nom> References: <3ACF0DB1.25827.1274D78@localhost> <3ACF0DB1.25827.1274D78@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 09:21:49 +0200 At 05:29 PM 4/10/01 -0400, Alan Shutko wrote: >Donald Story writes: > >> I just uploaded a new article "What new with Acrobat 5.0". In this >> short article, I'lve hightlighted some of the things that would be of >> interest to TeX/LaTeX users. See > >One thing I didn't see mentioned is "Tagged PDF". I first found this >mentioned at http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readerforpalm.html, >to allow reflow when breaking it down for their Palm "Acrobat" >reader. I haven't seen this mentioned anywhere else, but it would be >useful for TeX/LaTeX to produce such files.... > >Does anyone know more about this? page 93-142 of the diff between 1.3 / 1.4 doc describes it; tagging was already possible in 1.3 (marked content) but since there were no apps using it i never moved the experimental stuff i wrote into context. I'm still not sure about marked pdf, because it's kind of html. Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma@wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 11-Apr-2001 13:54:31-GMT,3460;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA01260 for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2001 07:54:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id AEB252AE82; Wed, 11 Apr 2001 15:55:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from uakron.edu (uakron.edu [130.101.5.4]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3BDsfm32571 for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2001 15:54:41 +0200 Received: from default (michigan45-97.infoserv.uakron.edu [130.101.2.97]) by uakron.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f3BDs4k18507 for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2001 09:54:04 -0400 (EDT) From: "Donald Story" Organization: The University of Akron To: pdftex@tug.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Reply-To: dpstory@uakron.edu Message-ID: <3AD42917.28230.85B018@localhost> Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Subject: [pdftex] ANN: Web/Exerquiz, version 2.0 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 09:51:19 -0400 I've just uploaded the web and exerquiz packages. There are numerous addtions to these packages, the main highlights are (1) For Web: The user can now design his/her own screen size, similar to pdfscreen. Some standard designes are offered. (2) For Exerquiz: A new type of question can now be posed, the "fill-in-the- blank", also called an objective-style question. This is in addition to multiple choice question of the previous versions. These versions introduce a new technique for insert document level javascripts into a pdf document, for those who use the distiller to make pdf (dvipsone or dvips options). For users of Acrobat 5.0, the process of inserting the DLJS is completely automated and seamless (here, I use some new features of Acrobat 5.0); for users of Acrobat prior to 5.0, an alternate method is provided. Please see the documentation. For users of pdftex and dvipdfm, the DLJS are automatically placed in the PDF file as well, nothing special to do. The packages and supporting materials/documentation can be obtained from http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/webeq.html Will submit to CTAN in the next few days as well. Hope it works for you and READ THE DOCUMENTATION! dps Dr. D. P. Story / dpstory@uakron.edu / (330) 972-7514 http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/ Dept of Mathematics and Computer Science / University of Akron / Akron, Ohio 44325 AcroTeX Web Site: http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/acrotex.html Site Includes: e-Calculus, Algebra Review in Ten Lessons, Mathematics Games, Pdfmarks:Links & Forms, Using LaTeX to Create Quality PDF Documents for the WWW, Web.sty and Exerquiz.sty Packages for LaTeX, and much, much more. _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 12-Apr-2001 11:27:31-GMT,3711;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA16346 for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 05:27:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 146332AE8B; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 13:28:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3CBR7m05355 for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 13:27:07 +0200 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (214@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA26045; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 13:26:27 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from sojka@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA17784; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 13:26:26 +0200 (MET DST) From: Petr Sojka To: Hans Hagen Cc: Alan Shutko , pdftex@tug.org Subject: Marked content in PDF (was Re: [pdftex] Re: What's new with Acrobat 5.0) Message-ID: <20010412132626.E482@informatics.muni.cz> References: <3ACF0DB1.25827.1274D78@localhost> <3ACF0DB1.25827.1274D78@localhost> <87puekmojr.fsf@wesley.springies.nom> <3.0.6.32.20010411092149.01464100@server-1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20010411092149.01464100@server-1>; from Hans Hagen on Wed, Apr 11, 2001 at 09:21:49AM +0200 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 13:26:26 +0200 On Wed, Apr 11, 2001 at 09:21:49AM +0200, Hans Hagen wrote: > >One thing I didn't see mentioned is "Tagged PDF". I first found this > >mentioned at http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readerforpalm.html, > >to allow reflow when breaking it down for their Palm "Acrobat" > >reader. I haven't seen this mentioned anywhere else, but it would be > >useful for TeX/LaTeX to produce such files.... > > > >Does anyone know more about this? > > page 93-142 of the diff between 1.3 / 1.4 doc describes it; tagging was > already possible in 1.3 (marked content) but since there were no apps using > it i never moved the experimental stuff i wrote into context. I'm still not > sure about marked pdf, because it's kind of html. Shouldn't pdfTeX be the first one app that allows generation of marked content in PDF? Try e.g. http://www.google.com/search?q=optimum+fit+algorithm (as I did the evening before Thanh's defense to check whether Knuth really started to use term total fit instead of optimum fit for TeX's line breaking algorithm). Yes, search engines _do_ index PDF files, and they evaluated document relevance from it. I think that it is only matter of time when good search engines like google will benefit from the content markup (as they currently do for html, see e.g. http://dbpubs.stanford.edu:8090/pub/1998-8) for computation of document relevance. It is information provider/author motivation to provide it. And as in properly written TeX files the information is already there, so why not to use it? Best --ps _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 12-Apr-2001 13:08:30-GMT,3210;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA16972 for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 07:08:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id A398F2B45B; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 15:09:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.riodata.de ([62.16.139.11]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3CD8im05861 for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 15:08:44 +0200 Received: from artinet.artcom-gmbh.de (62.16.147.178) by mail.riodata.de (5.1.056) id 3A6CDD120002978D for pdftex@tug.org; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 15:08:07 +0200 Received: (from uartcom@localhost) by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id PAA12579 for tug.org!pdftex; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 15:08:06 +0200 (MEST) >Received: by artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de (Smail3.2 #1) id m14ngpH-004wwRC; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 15:07:55 +0200 (MEST) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] Acrobat 5.0 / consequences for pdftex Message-ID: <20010412150755.N7269@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mail-Followup-To: pdftex@tug.org References: <15057.47395.21585.623941@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <3ACF0DB1.25827.1274D78@localhost> <3AD1777D.22961.C84380@localhost> <15057.46520.21716.129729@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <20010409152341.R7269@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <15057.47395.21585.623941@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <20010409153438.T7269@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <3.0.6.32.20010409162424.02383210@server-1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20010409162424.02383210@server-1>; from pragma@wxs.nl on Mon, Apr 09, 2001 at 04:24:24PM +0200 Organization: ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Strasse 8, D-28359 Bremen X-Disclaimer: The views expressed are my own and not necessarily that of my employers. Received: from artcom8 by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 15:08 MES Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 15:07:55 +0200 On 2001-04-09 16:24:24 +0200, Hans Hagen wrote: > At 03:34 PM 4/9/01 +0200, Martin Schröder wrote: > >In that case I would like a \pdfversion=1.2 primitive too. There > > that would be there already then, since 1.2 is just an assignment Since tex > does not have a data type like that, it would probably be > > \pdfversion{1.2} % a token list Then pdfTeX might produce a PDF v1.3 which claims to be v1.2, right? Best regards Martin -- http://www.tm.oneiros.de/calendar/2001/ _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 12-Apr-2001 13:58:29-GMT,2854;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA17384 for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 07:58:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id DA7B42AE8B; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 15:59:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mailgwa0.bmwgroup.com (mailgwa0.bmwgroup.com [192.109.190.231]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3CDw2m06137 for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 15:58:02 +0200 Received: from mhub1.muc ([160.50.97.116]) by mailgwa0.bmwgroup.com (Mirapoint) with ESMTP id ABH68512; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 15:41:47 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mailvsa0.muc by mhub1.muc with ESMTP for pdftex@tug.org; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 15:29:46 +0200 Received: from mail01.muc (mail01.muc [160.50.97.23]) by mailvsa0.muc (Mirapoint) by mailvsa0.muc (Mirapoint) with ESMTP id AGK45683; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 15:29:43 +0200 (CEST) Received: from bmw.de (q127038@[160.50.221.32] (may be forged)) by mail01.muc (8.8.6 (PHNE_17190+no byaddr 2)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA06612 for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 15:29:43 +0200 (METDST) Message-Id: <3AD5ADC7.88025C60@bmw.de> From: Daniel Heiserer Organization: BMW AG X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [de] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-4SGI_39smp i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [pdftex] pdflatex error Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 15:29:43 +0200 Hi, is this the right forum to talk to if I discover bugs in pdflatex? I love tex/latex/pdflatex but this is the most horrible application once one wants to send a bug report, becaue I have no idea where to send it. My problem is, that when I include pdffiles (A.pdf) using the graphicx package sometimes the include produces garbage. Using acroread the inital file A.pdf looks fine. this mostly occurs when the pdffile was generated from postscript using (ps2pdf (gs)) and the ps file contains images. I have two snapshots here to show that, but if this isn't the right forum for that I do not want to send you tons of data. thanks daniel _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 12-Apr-2001 14:02:31-GMT,2248;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA17428 for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 08:02:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id B47BC2B461; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 16:03:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from clichy.dfki.uni-sb.de (clichy.dfki.uni-sb.de [134.96.187.26]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3CE2bm06232 for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 16:02:37 +0200 Received: from dfki.de (acc-219 [134.96.188.219]) by clichy.dfki.uni-sb.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA03574; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 16:01:59 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <3AD5B5D6.1179C9C1@dfki.de> From: Berthold Crysmann Organization: DFKI GmbH X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.17 i686) X-Accept-Language: en, de, fr, pt MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: [pdftex] Replacing pk fonts with type1 in third party ps files Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 16:04:06 +0200 Dear all, is there a tool which allows one to replace the cm pk fonts included in some ps file with their type1 equivalents? I have to fix some third party ps file for inclusion in one of my documents. I remember having seen something like that a long time ago, but I do not recall where. Any pointers are most wellcome. Thanks, Berthold -- Berthold Crysmann Deutsches Forschungszentrum Kuenstliche Intelligenz (DFKI) GmbH Stuhlsatzenhausweg 3 D-66123 Saarbrücken _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 12-Apr-2001 14:10:05-GMT,2980;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA17513 for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 08:10:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 35D912B466; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 16:05:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from interzone.ucc.ie (interzone.ucc.ie [143.239.1.134]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3CE49m06286 for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 16:04:09 +0200 Received: from swift.ucc.ie (swift.ucc.ie [143.239.211.48]) by interzone.ucc.ie (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA16847; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 15:04:00 +0100 (BST) Received: (from dongen@localhost) by swift.ucc.ie (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id PAA18715; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 15:02:42 +0100 (IST) From: Marc van Dongen To: Daniel Heiserer Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] pdflatex error Message-ID: <20010412150242.G17401@cs.ucc.ie> References: <3AD5ADC7.88025C60@bmw.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3AD5ADC7.88025C60@bmw.de>; from Daniel.Heiserer@bmw.de on Thu, Apr 12, 2001 at 03:29:43PM +0200 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 15:02:42 +0100 Daniel Heiserer (Daniel.Heiserer@bmw.de) wrote: : My problem is, that when I include pdffiles (A.pdf) using : the graphicx package sometimes the : include produces garbage. Using acroread the : inital file A.pdf looks fine. : this mostly occurs when the pdffile was generated from : postscript using (ps2pdf (gs)) and the ps file contains : images. I had similar problems. This does not have to be a pdftex error but may be a problem with the pdf reader. In my case the problem was caused by the fact that the reader tried to ``optimise'' the fonts it needed. This resulted in certain text not being displayed at all. : I have two snapshots here to show that, : but if this isn't the right forum for that I do not : want to send you tons of data. I cannot see the snapshot. Perhaps you could put them on-line somewhere. Regards, Marc van Dongen -- Marc van Dongen, CS Dept | phone: +353 21 4903578 University College Cork, NUIC | Fax: +353 21 4903113 College Road, Cork, Ireland | Email: dongen@cs.ucc.ie _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 12-Apr-2001 16:03:30-GMT,2874;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA18998 for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 10:03:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id BBFC92B45A; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 18:04:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from interzone.ucc.ie (interzone.ucc.ie [143.239.1.134]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3CG3Vm06944 for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 18:03:32 +0200 Received: from swift.ucc.ie (swift.ucc.ie [143.239.211.48]) by interzone.ucc.ie (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA18410; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 17:03:23 +0100 (BST) Received: (from dongen@localhost) by swift.ucc.ie (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id RAA21484; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 17:02:06 +0100 (IST) From: Marc van Dongen To: Daniel Heiserer Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] pdflatex error Message-ID: <20010412170205.H17401@cs.ucc.ie> References: <3AD5ADC7.88025C60@bmw.de> <20010412150242.G17401@cs.ucc.ie> <3AD5C192.8854AEA6@bmw.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3AD5C192.8854AEA6@bmw.de>; from Daniel.Heiserer@bmw.de on Thu, Apr 12, 2001 at 04:54:10PM +0200 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 17:02:06 +0100 Daniel Heiserer (Daniel.Heiserer@bmw.de) wrote: : > : My problem is, that when I include pdffiles (A.pdf) using : > : the graphicx package sometimes the : > : include produces garbage. Using acroread the : > : inital file A.pdf looks fine. : > : this mostly occurs when the pdffile was generated from : > : postscript using (ps2pdf (gs)) and the ps file contains : > : images. [snip] : I attached it. : toinput.png is acroread displaying the original pdf file : generated with "ps2pdf". : pdflatex.png is a snapshot from a pdflatex-document which inputs : toinput.png Your query is about the inclusion of pdf files, whereas you are attaching png files. Regards, Marc van Dongen -- Marc van Dongen, CS Dept | phone: +353 21 4903578 University College Cork, NUIC | Fax: +353 21 4903113 College Road, Cork, Ireland | Email: dongen@cs.ucc.ie _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 12-Apr-2001 16:05:33-GMT,2932;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA19046 for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 10:05:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 715B62B478; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 18:06:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de (zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.53]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3CG5Sm07019 for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 18:05:28 +0200 Received: from zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de.kammer.uni-hannover.de (reinhard@zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.54]) by zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA14454; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 18:02:56 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de: Host reinhard@zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.54] claimed to be zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de.kammer.uni-hannover.de From: Reinhard Kotucha MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15061.53795.494939.135787@zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de> To: Daniel Heiserer Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: [pdftex] pdflatex error In-Reply-To: <3AD5ADC7.88025C60@bmw.de> References: <3AD5ADC7.88025C60@bmw.de> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under Emacs 20.7.2 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 18:04:51 +0200 >>>>> "Daniel" == Daniel Heiserer writes: > Hi, is this the right forum to talk to if I discover bugs in > pdflatex? Yes. > [...] > My problem is, that when I include pdffiles (A.pdf) using the > graphicx package sometimes the include produces garbage. Using What is the output of "pdftex -version"? Reinhard -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Reinhard Kotucha Phone: +49-511-751355 Berggartenstr. 9 D-30419 Hannover mailto:reinhard@kammer.uni-hannover.de ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Microsoft isn't the answer. Microsoft is the question, and the answer is NO. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 12-Apr-2001 16:32:32-GMT,60771;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA19534 for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 10:32:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id DDAFC2B464; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 18:33:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mailgwa0.bmwgroup.com (mailgwa0.bmwgroup.com [192.109.190.231]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3CGWCm07154 for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 18:32:12 +0200 Received: from mhub1.muc ([160.50.97.116]) by mailgwa0.bmwgroup.com (Mirapoint) with ESMTP id ABH74759; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 16:54:34 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mailvsa0.muc by mhub1.muc with ESMTP; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 16:54:27 +0200 Received: from mail01.muc (mail01.muc [160.50.97.23]) by mailvsa0.muc (Mirapoint) by mailvsa0.muc (Mirapoint) with ESMTP id AGK51651; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 16:54:14 +0200 (CEST) Received: from bmw.de (q127038@[160.50.221.32] (may be forged)) by mail01.muc (8.8.6 (PHNE_17190+no byaddr 2)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA25543; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 16:54:11 +0200 (METDST) Message-Id: <3AD5C192.8854AEA6@bmw.de> From: Daniel Heiserer Organization: BMW AG X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [de] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-4SGI_39smp i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dongen@cs.ucc.ie Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] pdflatex error References: <3AD5ADC7.88025C60@bmw.de> <20010412150242.G17401@cs.ucc.ie> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------AB208361CEAD843E5FB43A3C" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 16:54:10 +0200 Dies ist eine mehrteilige Nachricht im MIME-Format. --------------AB208361CEAD843E5FB43A3C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > : My problem is, that when I include pdffiles (A.pdf) using > : the graphicx package sometimes the > : include produces garbage. Using acroread the > : inital file A.pdf looks fine. > : this mostly occurs when the pdffile was generated from > : postscript using (ps2pdf (gs)) and the ps file contains > : images. > > I had similar problems. This does not have to be > a pdftex error but may be a problem with the pdf > reader. In my case the problem was caused by the > fact that the reader tried to ``optimise'' the > fonts it needed. This resulted in certain text > not being displayed at all. > > : I have two snapshots here to show that, > : but if this isn't the right forum for that I do not > : want to send you tons of data. > > I cannot see the snapshot. Perhaps you could put them > on-line somewhere. 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Subject: Re: [pdftex] pdflatex error References: <3AD5ADC7.88025C60@bmw.de> <15061.53795.494939.135787@zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------AD34E409AA3273FF36E54553" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 18:51:15 +0200 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------AD34E409AA3273FF36E54553 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, > > Hi, is this the right forum to talk to if I discover bugs in > > pdflatex? > > Yes. > > > [...] > > My problem is, that when I include pdffiles (A.pdf) using the > > graphicx package sometimes the include produces garbage. Using > > What is the output of "pdftex -version"? > pdftex -version pdfTeX (Web2C 7.3.1) 3.14159-0.13d kpathsea version 3.3.1 Copyright (C) 1999 Han The Thanh, Petr Sojka, and Jiri Zlatuska. Kpathsea is copyright (C) 1999 Free Software Foundation, Inc. There is NO warranty. Redistribution of this software is covered by the terms of both the pdfTeX copyright and the GNU General Public License. For more information about these matters, see the files named COPYING and the pdfTeX source. Primary author of pdfTeX: Han The Thanh, Petr Sojka, and Jiri Zlatuska. 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2001 12:03:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id A3A292B45C; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 20:04:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de (zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.53]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3CI3Rm07676 for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 20:03:27 +0200 Received: from zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de.kammer.uni-hannover.de (reinhard@zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.54]) by zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA15088; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 20:00:54 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de: Host reinhard@zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.54] claimed to be zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de.kammer.uni-hannover.de From: Reinhard Kotucha MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15061.60873.826418.84194@zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de> To: Daniel Heiserer Cc: reinhard@kammer.uni-hannover.de, pdftex@tug.org, dongen@cs.ucc.ie Subject: Re: [pdftex] pdflatex error In-Reply-To: <3AD5DD03.3831D7C2@bmw.de> References: <3AD5ADC7.88025C60@bmw.de> <15061.53795.494939.135787@zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de> <3AD5DD03.3831D7C2@bmw.de> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under Emacs 20.7.2 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 20:02:49 +0200 >>>>> "Daniel" == Daniel Heiserer writes: > Hi, >> > Hi, is this the right forum to talk to if I discover bugs in >> > pdflatex? >> >> Yes. >> >> > [...] > My problem is, that when I include pdffiles (A.pdf) >> using the > graphicx package sometimes the include produces >> garbage. Using >> >> What is the output of "pdftex -version"? >> > pdftex -version > pdfTeX (Web2C 7.3.1) 3.14159-0.13d This one is quite old and it's better to upgrade to a newer release. Nevertheless, I'm not able to display vglgrad-1.pdf in acroread 4.05. I get the message: There was an error opening this document. The root object is missing or invalid. When I try gv I get the following message from ghostscript: Error: /syntaxerror in readxref vglgrad-1.pdf was produced by ghostscript 5.50. I recommend to upgrade to version 6.01 or 7.00, which produces much better pdf. Regards, Reinhard -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Reinhard Kotucha Phone: +49-511-751355 Berggartenstr. 9 D-30419 Hannover mailto:reinhard@kammer.uni-hannover.de ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Microsoft isn't the answer. Microsoft is the question, and the answer is NO. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 12-Apr-2001 18:06:32-GMT,2759;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA21577 for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 12:06:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 830472AE8B; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 20:07:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f3CI6rm07767 for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 20:06:53 +0200 Received: from remote142-23.home.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.142.23] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 14nlTx-0002bE-00; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 20:06:14 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.20010412201648.440fd068@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) To: Daniel Heiserer , dongen@cs.ucc.ie From: Heiko Oberdiek Subject: Re: [pdftex] pdflatex error Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: <3AD5C192.8854AEA6@bmw.de> References: <3AD5ADC7.88025C60@bmw.de> <20010412150242.G17401@cs.ucc.ie> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 20:16:48 +0200 At 16:54 12.04.2001 +0200, Daniel Heiserer wrote: >> : My problem is, that when I include pdffiles (A.pdf) using >> : the graphicx package sometimes the >> : include produces garbage. Using acroread the >> : inital file A.pdf looks fine. >> : this mostly occurs when the pdffile was generated from >> : postscript using (ps2pdf (gs)) and the ps file contains >> : images. > >I attached it. >toinput.png is acroread displaying the original pdf file >generated with "ps2pdf". >pdflatex.png is a snapshot from a pdflatex-document which inputs >toinput.png Please no attachment in lists!!! Your bug report misses important informations: * _VERSION_ number of pdfTeX current is 0.14h. * _VERSION_ number of ghostscript current is 6.50. All ghostscript versions below 6.01 are problematic. Yours sincerely Heiko _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 12-Apr-2001 20:13:29-GMT,3575;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA23702 for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 14:13:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 8D6912B483; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 22:14:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de (zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.53]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3CKD1m08454 for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 22:13:01 +0200 Received: from zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de.kammer.uni-hannover.de (reinhard@zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.54]) by zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA15552; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 22:10:29 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de: Host reinhard@zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.54] claimed to be zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de.kammer.uni-hannover.de From: Reinhard Kotucha MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15062.3112.295691.453318@zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de> To: Alan Shutko Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: [pdftex] Re: pdflatex error In-Reply-To: <87eluyas8j.fsf@wesley.springies.com> References: <3AD5ADC7.88025C60@bmw.de> <20010412150242.G17401@cs.ucc.ie> <3.0.1.16.20010412201648.440fd068@localhost> <15061.61997.684083.264646@zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de> <87eluyas8j.fsf@wesley.springies.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under Emacs 20.7.2 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 22:12:24 +0200 >>>>> "Alan" == Alan Shutko writes: > Reinhard Kotucha writes: >> Versions later than 6.01 are quite buggy, try ps2epsi. > Referring to the -DSAFER problems? (Mostly fixed in 7.00....) Yes, most of the -DSAFER problems has been fixed. Unfortunately pdfopt doesn't work properly yet, even if you remove -dSAFER (and add -dBATCH). It works for some smaller documents created by pdftex but either crashes with larger docs or doesn't move the object table to the beginning of the file. I hope that these bugs will be fixed in the near future because pdfopt is quite interesting for pdftex users. There are still very few bugs in the scripts. -dBATCH should be added to pf2afm, and ps2ascii doesn't work. The other scripts seem to work. Regards, Reinhard -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Reinhard Kotucha Phone: +49-511-751355 Berggartenstr. 9 D-30419 Hannover mailto:reinhard@kammer.uni-hannover.de ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Microsoft isn't the answer. Microsoft is the question, and the answer is NO. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 12-Apr-2001 20:15:31-GMT,2412;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA23771 for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 14:15:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 48DB72B48A; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 22:16:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f3CKFFm08535 for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 22:15:15 +0200 Received: from remote142-14.home.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.142.14] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 14nmGS-00034P-00; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 20:56:21 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.20010412211624.443fd9f0@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) To: Daniel Heiserer , reinhard@kammer.uni-hannover.de From: Heiko Oberdiek Subject: Re: [pdftex] pdflatex error Cc: pdftex@tug.org, dongen@cs.ucc.ie In-Reply-To: <3AD5DD03.3831D7C2@bmw.de> References: <3AD5ADC7.88025C60@bmw.de> <15061.53795.494939.135787@zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 21:16:24 +0200 At 18:51 12.04.2001 +0200, Daniel Heiserer wrote: >pdfTeX (Web2C 7.3.1) 3.14159-0.13d Too old, please update. http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/ and http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/pdftex.def http://www.tug.org/applications/hyperref/hyperref.zip >Attachment Converted: "vglgrad-.pdf" Please no Attachments. It uses gs 5.50 Update: CTAN:support/ghostscript/aladdin/ Yours sincerely Heiko _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 12-Apr-2001 20:34:30-GMT,3144;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA24871 for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 14:34:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id C84A32B487; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 22:35:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mta4 (mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.10]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3CKYsm08644 for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 22:34:54 +0200 Received: from wesley.springies.com (ool-18bad1dd.dyn.optonline.net [24.186.209.221]) by mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.0 Patch 2 (built Dec 14 2000)) with ESMTP id <0GBP002EW554BV@mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for pdftex@tug.org; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 16:34:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ats by wesley.springies.com with local (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian)) id 14nnnE-0002Sx-00 for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 16:34:16 -0400 From: Alan Shutko In-reply-to: <15062.3112.295691.453318@zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de> To: pdftex@tug.org Message-id: <877l0peulq.fsf@wesley.springies.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT User-Agent: Gnus/5.090001 (Oort Gnus v0.01) Emacs/21.0.102 Lines: 23 References: <3AD5ADC7.88025C60@bmw.de> <20010412150242.G17401@cs.ucc.ie> <3.0.1.16.20010412201648.440fd068@localhost> <15061.61997.684083.264646@zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de> <87eluyas8j.fsf@wesley.springies.com> <15062.3112.295691.453318@zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de> Subject: [pdftex] Re: pdflatex error Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 16:34:16 -0400 Reinhard Kotucha writes: > Yes, most of the -DSAFER problems has been fixed. Unfortunately > pdfopt doesn't work properly yet, even if you remove -dSAFER (and > add -dBATCH). I know. I have two bugs open against it. 8^) > I hope that these bugs will be fixed in the near future because > pdfopt is quite interesting for pdftex users. Interesting also for ps2pdf users, since pdfopt crashes identically against a couple I've tried. (the /rangecheck case) > There are still very few bugs in the scripts. -dBATCH should be added > to pf2afm, and ps2ascii doesn't work. The other scripts seem to work. Have you reported bugs against them at http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=1897&atid=101897 yet? -- Alan Shutko - In a variety of flavors! Honi soit la vache qui rit. _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 12-Apr-2001 21:43:30-GMT,3157;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA25909 for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 15:43:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 892752AE82; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 23:44:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from life.ai.mit.edu (ai.mit.edu [128.52.32.80]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3CLhXm09049 for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 23:43:33 +0200 Received: from MAURITIUS.yandy.com (maui [128.52.37.105]) by life.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/AI2.13/ai.master.life:2.21) with ESMTP id RAA06552; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 17:42:51 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.2.20010412174548.057f2eb8@pop.tiac.net> X-Sender: yandy@pop.tiac.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 To: Berthold Crysmann , pdftex@tug.org From: Y&Y Support Subject: Re: [pdftex] Replacing pk fonts with type1 in third party ps files In-Reply-To: <3AD5B5D6.1179C9C1@dfki.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 17:50:13 -0400 Hi: At 04:04 PM 4/12/2001 +0200, Berthold Crysmann wrote: >is there a tool which allows one to replace the cm pk fonts included in >some ps file with their type1 equivalents? I have to fix some third >party ps file for inclusion in one of my documents. I remember having >seen something like that a long time ago, but I do not recall where. Any >pointers are most wellcome. > >Thanks, Berthold This would not be too hard with recent PS from DVIPS, since it now includes comments telling you what each font is. It is near impossible to do reliably with output from older versions of DVIPS since the fonts are not marked and you have to do pattern recognition on the PK bitmaps to see what each one is. This in itself would not be too hard if specific CM fonts had specific PK bitmaps at a given resolution. But because of the madness of "modedef" (an attempt to make CM look fatter than it really is) different installation have different PK bitmaps. There have been attempts to write code to deal with this, but it is a hard problem with a very limited applicability and apparently no one has sufficient interest or finances to do something about it. Fortunately most enlightened souls now use scalable outline fonts. Regards, Berthold Horn -- Y&Y, Inc. Support mailto:support@YandY.com http://www.YandY.com (MT) _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 12-Apr-2001 18:22:30-GMT,3221;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA21910 for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 12:22:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 704E62B45B; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 20:23:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de (zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.53]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3CIMAm07828 for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 20:22:10 +0200 Received: from zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de.kammer.uni-hannover.de (reinhard@zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.54]) by zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA15182; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 20:19:38 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de: Host reinhard@zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.54] claimed to be zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de.kammer.uni-hannover.de From: Reinhard Kotucha MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15061.61997.684083.264646@zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de> To: Heiko Oberdiek Cc: Daniel Heiserer , dongen@cs.ucc.ie, pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] pdflatex error In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.16.20010412201648.440fd068@localhost> References: <3AD5ADC7.88025C60@bmw.de> <20010412150242.G17401@cs.ucc.ie> <3.0.1.16.20010412201648.440fd068@localhost> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under Emacs 20.7.2 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 20:21:33 +0200 >>>>> "Heiko" == Heiko Oberdiek writes: > * _VERSION_ number of ghostscript > current is 6.50. The latest version is 7.00. See: ftp://mirror.cs.wisc.edu:/pub/mirrors/ghost/AFPL/gs700 > All ghostscript versions below 6.01 are problematic. Versions later than 6.01 are quite buggy, try ps2epsi. Some of the bugs are fixed in 7.00, some aren't. I didnt't test very much yet, I installed it just some minutes ago. Regards, Reinhard -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Reinhard Kotucha Phone: +49-511-751355 Berggartenstr. 9 D-30419 Hannover mailto:reinhard@kammer.uni-hannover.de ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Microsoft isn't the answer. Microsoft is the question, and the answer is NO. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 12-Apr-2001 18:29:32-GMT,2617;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA22111 for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 12:29:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id EBB562B47F; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 20:30:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mta4 (mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.10]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3CIThm07914 for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 20:29:43 +0200 Received: from wesley.springies.com (ool-18bad1dd.dyn.optonline.net [24.186.209.221]) by mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.0 Patch 2 (built Dec 14 2000)) with ESMTP id <0GBO00B02ZBQC1@mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for pdftex@tug.org; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 14:28:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ats by wesley.springies.com with local (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian)) id 14nlpe-0001tp-00 for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 14:28:38 -0400 From: Alan Shutko In-reply-to: <15061.61997.684083.264646@zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de> To: pdftex@tug.org Message-id: <87eluyas8j.fsf@wesley.springies.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT User-Agent: Gnus/5.090001 (Oort Gnus v0.01) Emacs/21.0.102 Lines: 12 References: <3AD5ADC7.88025C60@bmw.de> <20010412150242.G17401@cs.ucc.ie> <3.0.1.16.20010412201648.440fd068@localhost> <15061.61997.684083.264646@zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de> Subject: [pdftex] Re: pdflatex error Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 14:28:38 -0400 Reinhard Kotucha writes: > Versions later than 6.01 are quite buggy, try ps2epsi. Referring to the -DSAFER problems? (Mostly fixed in 7.00....) Many of the scripts are buggy in recent versions, but PDF creation is generally much better. I find the scripts easier to fix. -- Alan Shutko - In a variety of flavors! Love IS what it's cracked up to be. _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 13-Apr-2001 3:49:30-GMT,3556;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA29909 for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 21:49:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id B25D32AE82; Fri, 13 Apr 2001 05:50:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f3D3nQm10572 for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2001 05:49:26 +0200 Received: from remote142-26.home.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.142.26] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 14nuZh-0007Cd-00; Fri, 13 Apr 2001 05:48:45 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.20010413064438.08ff4b6e@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) To: Y&Y Support , Berthold Crysmann , pdftex@tug.org From: Heiko Oberdiek Subject: Re: [pdftex] Replacing pk fonts with type1 in third party ps files In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.2.20010412174548.057f2eb8@pop.tiac.net> References: <3AD5B5D6.1179C9C1@dfki.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 06:44:38 +0200 At 17:50 12.04.2001 -0400, Y&Y Support wrote: > >At 04:04 PM 4/12/2001 +0200, Berthold Crysmann wrote: > >>is there a tool which allows one to replace the cm pk fonts included in >>some ps file with their type1 equivalents? I have to fix some third >>party ps file for inclusion in one of my documents. I remember having >>seen something like that a long time ago, but I do not recall where. Any >>pointers are most wellcome. > >This would not be too hard with recent PS from DVIPS, since it now includes >comments telling you what each font is. Because I also had this problem the last year often, I have tried a solution and have put it CTAN today: CTAN:support/pkfix/ >From the README: Often PostScript files with embedded pk fonts are available that were generated by dvips. If these files are converted to pdf, the quality is very poor because of the bitmapped fonts. But what can be done, if the sources dvi or tex are not available? This project pkfix tries a solution by replacing the used pk fonts by the type 1 ones. It scans the file for the pk fonts by searching the comments, introduced by not too old dvips versions. For each detected bitmap font pkfix generates a tex file that uses this font. Then it runs dvips with option setting for pdf and hopes, that the corresponding type 1 font is found and included in the temporary PostScript file. So this font will be extracted and replaces the bitmapped font of the original PostScript file. CAUTION: The state is experimental. Tests are only done with teTeX. Yours sincerely Heiko _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 17-Apr-2001 12:49:28-GMT,3972;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA20310 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 06:49:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id A17AF2AE82; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 14:50:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from oxera.wanadoo.fr (smtp-rt-13.wanadoo.fr [193.252.19.223]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3HCnHm03513 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 14:49:18 +0200 Received: from antholoma.wanadoo.fr (193.252.19.153) by oxera.wanadoo.fr; 17 Apr 2001 14:48:38 +0200 Received: from localhost.localdomain (193.249.243.15) by antholoma.wanadoo.fr; 17 Apr 2001 14:48:23 +0200 From: Michael Chapman X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" To: pdftex@tug.org References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01041714430700.02488@localhost.localdomain> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: [pdftex] Re: pdftex-pdfcrypt - The Missing Link(?). Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 14:43:07 +0200 On Monday 09 April 2001 09:41, Ricardo Sanchez Carmenes wrote: > . . . version of pdftex with encryption. > > available at ftp://bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es/pub/. . . > > Sources have been sent to Han The Thanh but they are not yet integrated > into the regular release. > I would like to congratulate Ricardo for his work on pdfcrypt. My work is fairly simple and I cannot claim to have 'tortured' his latest ersion, but for us it works. In implementing PDF with TeX (well, LaTeX) it is for us the "Missing Link". The one aspect that was not available, and was becoming increasinglyly niggling in its absence. 'Locking' files may seem anathema to some in the pdftex culture of sharing and common enterprise, but let me cite what our first two uses will be: 1. I am treasurer of the WWW Virtual Library project. I am due to publish the accounts. I will now do so not only by plain text e-mail but 'for the record' as a PDF document. Obviously any inspired 14-year-old cracker could 'forge' a look-alike balance sheet, but by closing the file to alterations it stops anyone innocently (officiously) fiddling with them -the gratuitous correction of a seeming typo' before passing them on, etc. There is thus one document (with all its typo's :-)> ) as a document of record. 2. We publish a (free) newsletter. This has split into a plain text version and an on-screen (was HTML, now moving to PDF on-screen) version. Printing out the sreen version looses you all the link information. I will lock out printing on the 'colour edition' to force naive users to use the better edition for them. (I think that is constructive and not over nanny-ing ?) So apologies the length of a message to a discussion list, but I do feel Ricardo's work is of great importance, and have been surprised by the lack of other comments voiced. If this is to go into the revised pdfTex we need -I suspect- voices of support. (Equally if this is an esoteric, minority interest, we need that saying too -I hope not!) Thank you, Michael Chapman Culoz, France. _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 17-Apr-2001 13:45:27-GMT,2184;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA20721 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 07:45:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 784EF2AE8F; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 15:46:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3HDjMm04009 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 15:45:22 +0200 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA14033 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 15:44:42 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA13499 for pdftex@tug.org; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 15:44:42 +0200 (MET DST) From: Han The Thanh To: pdfTeX Message-ID: <20010417154442.A3624@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i Subject: [pdftex] pdftex-0.14h released Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 15:44:42 +0200 Hi, pdftex-0.14h has been released. The only major change is a bug in tiff inclusion has been fixed by Martin. The encryption support by Ricardo will be merged to pdftex sources from next version. Sources and binaries for linux + djgpp + solaris are available at ftp://ftp.cstug.cz/pub/tex/local/cstug/thanh/pdftex Regards, Thanh _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 17-Apr-2001 16:31:27-GMT,2072;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA23142 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 10:31:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id B10882AE82; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 18:32:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from esemetz.ese-metz.fr (esemetz.ese-metz.fr [193.48.224.212]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3HGV3m04772 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 18:31:03 +0200 Received: from NEVERYON.ese-metz.fr (neveryon.ese-metz.fr [193.48.224.220]) by esemetz.ese-metz.fr (8.11.0/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f3HGVML27244; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 18:31:22 +0200 To: Han The Thanh Cc: pdfTeX Subject: Re: [pdftex] pdftex-0.14h released References: <20010417154442.A3624@anxur.fi.muni.cz> From: Fabrice Popineau In-Reply-To: <20010417154442.A3624@anxur.fi.muni.cz> (Han The Thanh's message of "Tue, 17 Apr 2001 15:44:42 +0200") Message-ID: Lines: 8 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090003 (Oort Gnus v0.03) XEmacs/21.2 (Zephir) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: 17 Apr 2001 18:29:42 +0200 The web2c/win32 native version is available from : ftp://ftp.dante.de/pub/fptex/standalone/pdftex-0.14h-pretest-20010417-win32.zip -- Fabrice Popineau _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 17-Apr-2001 18:41:34-GMT,2584;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA25316 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 12:41:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id C6AB02AE8F; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 20:42:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f3HIffm05420 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 20:41:41 +0200 Received: from remote142-145.home.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.142.145] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 14paPM-0006tt-00; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 20:41:00 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.20010417213316.0b37b7ca@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) To: Ricardo Sanchez Carmenes From: Heiko Oberdiek Cc: pdftex@tug.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: [pdftex] pdftex-pdfcrypt: too late use of \pdfcrypt Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 21:33:16 +0200 Hello, next problem I found: %%% cut %%% testlate.tex %%% cut %%% \pdfcompresslevel=0 \nopagenumbers \font\f=ptmr \f \shipout\hbox{First Page} \immediate\pdfobj{<< /Type /Foo /String (Hello World)>>} \pdfcrypt{ owner = "Donald" user = "Knuth" none print } \immediate\pdfobj{<< /Type /Foo /String (Hello World)>>} \shipout\hbox{Second Page} \bye %%% cut %%% testlate.tex %%% cut %%% The first page and first string "Hello World" are not encrypted, but the second page and second string. I do not know, what is the best policy. Perhaps * Ignoring, if \pdfcrypt is called too late. * Ignoring with warning * Ignoring with error message * ... Because of this question I have posted it to the list, too. Best regards Heiko _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 17-Apr-2001 19:36:27-GMT,1890;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA26015 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 13:36:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id E04AF2AE8B; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 21:37:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from VL-MS-MR003.sc1.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3HJZwm05686 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 21:36:01 +0200 Message-Id: <200104171936.f3HJZwm05686@tug.daimi.au.dk> Received: from there ([24.201.109.93]) by VL-MS-MR003.sc1.videotron.ca (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GBYBQC00.8X4 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 15:35:00 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Mathieu Chouinard To: pdfTeX X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2.1] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: [pdftex] building pdftex 0.14h with teTeX Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 19:36:05 +0000 everytime I try to build the last pdftex release it failed with both teTeX 1.07 and the last teTeX beta thanks Mathieu _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 17-Apr-2001 20:56:28-GMT,3163;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA27458 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 14:56:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 353082AE82; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 22:57:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de (zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.53]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3HKuqm06133 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 22:56:52 +0200 Received: from zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de.kammer.uni-hannover.de (reinhard@zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.54]) by zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA12779; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 22:54:09 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de: Host reinhard@zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.54] claimed to be zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de.kammer.uni-hannover.de From: Reinhard Kotucha MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15068.44523.713606.617893@zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de> To: Mathieu Chouinard Cc: pdfTeX Subject: [pdftex] building pdftex 0.14h with teTeX In-Reply-To: <200104171936.f3HJZwm05686@tug.daimi.au.dk> References: <200104171936.f3HJZwm05686@tug.daimi.au.dk> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under Emacs 20.7.2 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 22:56:11 +0200 >>>>> "Mathieu" == Mathieu Chouinard writes: > everytime I try to build the last pdftex release it failed with > both teTeX 1.07 and the last teTeX beta Did you try building it in the teTeX source tree? This will fail. Just unpack the pdftex tar file, "cd src && ./configure && make pdftex". That should work. Finally, you have to copy pdftex and pdftex.pool to the proper places and run texconfig init. What exactly doesn't work for you? We need some more information. Regards, Reinhard -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Reinhard Kotucha Phone: +49-511-751355 Berggartenstr. 9 D-30419 Hannover mailto:reinhard@kammer.uni-hannover.de ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Microsoft isn't the answer. Microsoft is the question, and the answer is NO. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 17-Apr-2001 22:45:28-GMT,2033;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA29137 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 16:45:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 41BD62B44F; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 00:46:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from VL-MS-MR001.sc1.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3HMjjm06894 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 00:45:45 +0200 Message-Id: <200104172245.f3HMjjm06894@tug.daimi.au.dk> Received: from there ([24.201.109.93]) by VL-MS-MR001.sc1.videotron.ca (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GBYKJ600.TWP for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 18:45:06 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Mathieu Chouinard To: pdfTeX X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2.1] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: [pdftex] problems with python 2.1 documentation Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 22:46:09 +0000 When I try to make python 2.1 pdf file with pdftex 0.14h I got the following error: [29 ! pdfTeX error (ext4): \pdfendlink ended up in different nesting level than \pd fstartlink. \endgroup l.21 \end{datadesc} Mathieu _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 18-Apr-2001 7:09:27-GMT,4057;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA03701 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 01:09:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 959EF2AE93; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 09:10:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from maxim.gbch.net (gw.gbch.net [203.24.22.66]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f3I78xm09149 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 09:09:01 +0200 Received: (qmail 49148 invoked by uid 1001); 18 Apr 2001 17:08:15 +1000 Message-ID: X-Posted-By: GJB-Post 2.17 10-Apr-2001 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE i386 X-Location: Brisbane, Australia; 27.49841S 152.98439E X-URL: http://www.gbch.net/gjb.html X-Image-URL: http://www.gbch.net/gjb/gjb-auug048.gif X-GPG-Fingerprint: EBB2 2A92 A79D 1533 AC00 3C46 5D83 B6FB 4B04 B7D6 X-PGP-Public-Keys: http://www.gbch.net/keys.html From: Greg Black To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] Re: pdftex-pdfcrypt - The Missing Link(?). References: <01041714430700.02488@localhost.localdomain> In-reply-to: <01041714430700.02488@localhost.localdomain> of Tue, 17 Apr 2001 14:43:07 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 17:08:14 +1000 Michael Chapman wrote: | 1. I am treasurer of the WWW Virtual Library project. I am due to publish the | accounts. I will now do so not only by plain text e-mail but 'for the record' | as a PDF document. | Obviously any inspired 14-year-old cracker could 'forge' a look-alike balance | sheet, but by closing the file to alterations it stops anyone innocently | (officiously) fiddling with them -the gratuitous correction of a seeming | typo' before passing them on, etc. There is thus one document (with all its | typo's :-)> ) as a document of record. This goal is much better met by attaching a digital signature with PGP or GPG and leaving the document in a form that allows its readers to use it in ways that are comfortable for them. | 2. We publish a (free) newsletter. This has split into a plain text version | and an on-screen (was HTML, now moving to PDF on-screen) version. | Printing out the sreen version looses you all the link information. I will | lock out printing on the 'colour edition' to force naive users to use the | better edition for them. (I think that is constructive and not over nanny-ing | ?) Again, this is just absurd. If you don't want people to see the contents at all, encrypt the document (but with a purpose-built tool like PGP or GPG). But, if you want people to read it, don't patronise them by deciding that you know best how they should go about it. It's perfectly reasonable for somebody to choose to have a printed copy for reading or reference and to accept that she can't click on links that way. Give up on this silliness. As the idiot commercial sector continues to demonstrate (surely people still remember the DVD nonsense), trying to lock stuff up simply doesn't work. It just annoys legitimate users and does nothing to stop determined people from getting at it anyway. How long do you think it would take me to produce the printed version of your version that is supposed to prevent printing? _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 18-Apr-2001 10:08:28-GMT,3278;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA04654 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 04:08:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 2E3642AE82; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 12:09:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from alisier.wanadoo.fr (smtp-rt-9.wanadoo.fr [193.252.19.55]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3IA88m09884 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 12:08:09 +0200 Received: from amyris.wanadoo.fr (193.252.19.150) by alisier.wanadoo.fr; 18 Apr 2001 12:07:25 +0200 Received: from localhost.localdomain (193.249.243.227) by amyris.wanadoo.fr; 18 Apr 2001 12:06:59 +0200 From: Michael Chapman X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" To: pdftex@tug.org References: <01041714430700.02488@localhost.localdomain> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [pdftex] Re: pdftex-pdfcrypt - The Missing Link(?). MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01041810281300.06771@localhost.localdomain> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 10:28:13 +0200 Freedom surely embraces the freedom to be silly . . . if not offensive ? On Wednesday 18 April 2001 09:08, Greg Black wrote: > This goal is much better met by attaching a digital signature > with PGP or GPG and leaving the document in a form that allows > its readers to use it in ways that are comfortable for them. > But what proposrtion of e-mail recipients have (functionally) access to (and/or understanding of) PGP/GPG? Conversely, Acrobat is installed on most people's boxes. > As the idiot commercial sector continues to demonstrate (surely > people still remember the DVD nonsense), trying to lock stuff up > simply doesn't work. It just annoys legitimate users and does > nothing to stop determined people from getting at it anyway. > > How long do you think it would take me to produce the printed > version of your version that is supposed to prevent printing? > It was me that mentionned the 14-year old cracker, so whilst I accept the other points made -if not agreeing with them in detail- I think this last one (and the feminist jibe) are uncalled for. I do also work for a (law) publisher. Security, IP protection are not binary. They are about balances of convenience to both supplier and user. pdfcrypt extends the possibilities and thus allows better balances. Michael. _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 18-Apr-2001 15:30:28-GMT,1998;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA07715 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 09:30:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 67B722AE82; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 17:31:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3IFUam11686 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 17:30:36 +0200 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (214@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA00309 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 17:29:57 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from sojka@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA06939 for pdftex@tug.org; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 17:29:55 +0200 (MET DST) From: Petr Sojka To: pdfTeX List Message-ID: <20010418172955.K29799@informatics.muni.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i Subject: [pdftex] Acrobat Reader 5.0 for download (Win&Mac) Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 17:29:55 +0200 FYI: Acrobat Reader with Search - Macintosh & Windows http://www.pdfstore.com/mainpage.asp?webpageid=216&pdfsproductid=1562 _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 18-Apr-2001 17:11:28-GMT,2202;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA09713 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 11:11:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 7C9D02AE82; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 19:12:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost.localdomain (adsl-63-197-192-114.dsl.sndg02.pacbell.net [63.197.192.114]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3IHBPm12206 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 19:11:25 +0200 Received: from incep.com ([192.168.1.54]) by localhost.localdomain (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA11420 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 10:12:37 -0700 Message-ID: <3ADDCA60.9A72EB58@incep.com> From: Joe Riel Organization: INCEP Technologies, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [pdftex] Problem with hyperref and \numberwithin in pdflatex Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 10:09:52 -0700 When I use the hyperref package and \numberwithin from amsmath, the generated hyperlinks to figures and equations in sections following the \numberwithin command are incorrect (they go to previous figures and equations). pdflatex generates warnings that the references are incorrect. Any idea on how to work around this? I used \appendix \numberwithin{equation}{section} \numberwithin{figure}{section} Joe Riel _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 18-Apr-2001 17:31:27-GMT,3129;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA10036 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 11:31:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 333742AE93; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 19:32:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de (zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.53]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3IHVom12350 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 19:31:50 +0200 Received: from zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de.kammer.uni-hannover.de (reinhard@zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.54]) by zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA19830; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 19:29:07 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de: Host reinhard@zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.54] claimed to be zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de.kammer.uni-hannover.de From: Reinhard Kotucha MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15069.53087.384002.396873@zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de> To: Mathieu Chouinard Cc: pdfTeX Subject: [pdftex] problems with python 2.1 documentation In-Reply-To: <200104172245.f3HMjjm06894@tug.daimi.au.dk> References: <200104172245.f3HMjjm06894@tug.daimi.au.dk> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under Emacs 20.7.2 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 19:31:11 +0200 >>>>> "Mathieu" == Mathieu Chouinard writes: > When I try to make python 2.1 pdf file with pdftex 0.14h I got > the following error: [29 ! pdfTeX error (ext4): \pdfendlink I do not know whether this is the reason, but I forgot to mention that you must update the files pdftex.def and hyperref if you update pdftex. http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/pdftex.def ftp://ftp.dante.de/pub/tex/macros/latex/contrib/supported/hyperref Regards, Reinhard -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Reinhard Kotucha Phone: +49-511-751355 Berggartenstr. 9 D-30419 Hannover mailto:reinhard@kammer.uni-hannover.de ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Microsoft isn't the answer. Microsoft is the question, and the answer is NO. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 18-Apr-2001 18:01:26-GMT,2526;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA10614 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 12:01:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id E52E92AE82; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 20:02:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f3II1Km12574 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 20:01:20 +0200 Received: from remote142-129.home.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.142.129] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 14pwFp-0007Z5-00; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 20:00:38 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.20010418205947.29c77356@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) To: Joe Riel , pdftex From: Heiko Oberdiek Subject: Re: [pdftex] Problem with hyperref and \numberwithin in pdflatex In-Reply-To: <3ADDCA60.9A72EB58@incep.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 20:59:47 +0200 At 10:09 18.04.2001 -0700, Joe Riel wrote: >When I use the hyperref package and \numberwithin from amsmath, the >generated hyperlinks to figures and equations in sections following the >\numberwithin command are incorrect (they go to previous figures and >equations). pdflatex generates warnings that the references are >incorrect. Any idea on how to work around this? > >\appendix >\numberwithin{equation}{section} >\numberwithin{figure}{section} Which version of hyperref do you use? Please try out the latest version, there is support for \numberwithin: http://www.tug.org/applications/hyperref/hyperref.zip Yours sincerely Heiko _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 18-Apr-2001 21:06:27-GMT,3628;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA13809 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 15:06:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 794622AE82; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 23:07:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from maxim.gbch.net (gw.gbch.net [203.24.22.66]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f3IL68m13336 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 23:06:10 +0200 Received: (qmail 59897 invoked by uid 1001); 19 Apr 2001 07:05:24 +1000 Message-ID: X-Posted-By: GJB-Post 2.17 10-Apr-2001 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE i386 X-Location: Brisbane, Australia; 27.49841S 152.98439E X-URL: http://www.gbch.net/gjb.html X-Image-URL: http://www.gbch.net/gjb/gjb-auug048.gif X-GPG-Fingerprint: EBB2 2A92 A79D 1533 AC00 3C46 5D83 B6FB 4B04 B7D6 X-PGP-Public-Keys: http://www.gbch.net/keys.html From: Greg Black To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] Re: pdftex-pdfcrypt - The Missing Link(?). References: <01041714430700.02488@localhost.localdomain> <01041810281300.06771@localhost.localdomain> In-reply-to: <01041810281300.06771@localhost.localdomain> of Wed, 18 Apr 2001 10:28:13 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 07:05:24 +1000 Michael Chapman wrote: | On Wednesday 18 April 2001 09:08, Greg Black wrote: | | > This goal is much better met by attaching a digital signature | > with PGP or GPG and leaving the document in a form that allows | > its readers to use it in ways that are comfortable for them. | > | But what proposrtion of e-mail recipients have (functionally) access to | (and/or understanding of) PGP/GPG? | Conversely, Acrobat is installed on most people's boxes. GPG and PGP are as easy to obtain as acrobat. | > As the idiot commercial sector continues to demonstrate (surely | > people still remember the DVD nonsense), trying to lock stuff up | > simply doesn't work. It just annoys legitimate users and does | > nothing to stop determined people from getting at it anyway. | > | > How long do you think it would take me to produce the printed | > version of your version that is supposed to prevent printing? | > | It was me that mentionned the 14-year old cracker, so whilst I accept the | other points made -if not agreeing with them in detail- I think this last | one (and the feminist jibe) are uncalled for. What feminist jibe? | I do also work for a (law) publisher. Security, IP protection are not binary. | They are about balances of convenience to both supplier and user. | pdfcrypt extends the possibilities and thus allows better balances. No, pdfcrypt merely annoys users. I refuse to read stuff with that nonsense, and I'm not alone. _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 18-Apr-2001 21:41:26-GMT,2563;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA14302 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 15:41:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id CF6472AE82; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 23:42:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.17]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3ILfTm13647 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 23:41:29 +0200 Received: from wesley.springies.com (ool-18bad1dd.dyn.optonline.net [24.186.209.221]) by mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.0 Patch 2 (built Dec 14 2000)) with ESMTP id <0GC0001D6C86BX@mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for pdftex@tug.org; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 17:40:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ats by wesley.springies.com with local (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian)) id 14pzgu-0006Uy-00 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 17:40:48 -0400 From: Alan Shutko In-reply-to: To: pdftex@tug.org Message-id: <87wv8hanu1.fsf@wesley.springies.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT User-Agent: Gnus/5.090001 (Oort Gnus v0.01) Emacs/21.0.102 Lines: 11 References: <01041714430700.02488@localhost.localdomain> <01041810281300.06771@localhost.localdomain> Subject: [pdftex] Re: pdftex-pdfcrypt - The Missing Link(?). Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 17:40:48 -0400 Greg Black writes: > GPG and PGP are as easy to obtain as acrobat. As easy to obtain, maybe. As easy to use, no. -- Alan Shutko - In a variety of flavors! All the world's a Schrodinger Box, and we are merely kitties. _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 19-Apr-2001 10:49:28-GMT,2928;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA21299 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 04:49:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 4C3822AE8B; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 12:50:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from aleph.net.uniovi.es (aleph.net.uniovi.es [156.35.11.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3JAn5m16719 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 12:49:06 +0200 Received: from bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es (bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es [156.35.56.38]) by aleph.net.uniovi.es (PMDF V6.0-24 #45227) with ESMTP id <01K2L1UE2SB000555S@aleph.net.uniovi.es> for pdftex@tug.org; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 12:48:21 +0200 (MET) Received: from localhost (carmenes@localhost) by bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f3JAm3s03324 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 12:48:04 +0200 From: Ricardo Sanchez Carmenes X-Sender: carmenes@bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es To: pdftex@tug.org Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: [pdftex] pdftex-pdfcrypt update 20010418 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 12:48:03 +0200 (CEST) This is to announce the update of the special version of pdf[e]tex 0.14h-20010310 enhanced with encryting capability (18/04/2001). Note that the only change incorporated to the latest regular release of pdftex (regarding TIFF) is also present in this version, even if it is build from pdftex release 20010310. Precompiled linux and djgpp binaries are available by anonymous ftp here: The usual diclaimer applies. Windows and solaris binaries are not yet available. Sorry. But don't desesperate, the next regular release is expected to incorporate the pdfcrypt sources. This version has the ability to produce encrypted pdf files with the owner/user password protection scheme described in the adobe PDFref manual. Please report malfunctions specific to pdfcrypt to Ricardo S. Carmenes or to the pdftex list . Regards, Ricardo. _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 19-Apr-2001 11:05:28-GMT,3188;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA21384 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 05:05:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 6BB4B2B458; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 13:06:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from life.ai.mit.edu (ai.mit.edu [128.52.32.80]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3JB51m16885 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 13:05:01 +0200 Received: from MAURITIUS.yandy.com (maui [128.52.37.105]) by life.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/AI2.13/ai.master.life:2.21) with ESMTP id HAA01857 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 07:04:20 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.2.20010419070044.03699290@pop.tiac.net> X-Sender: yandy@pop.tiac.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 To: pdftex@tug.org From: Y&Y Support Subject: Re: [pdftex] Re: pdftex-pdfcrypt - The Missing Link(?). In-Reply-To: References: <01041810281300.06771@localhost.localdomain> <01041714430700.02488@localhost.localdomain> <01041810281300.06771@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 07:03:28 -0400 At 07:05 AM 4/19/2001 +1000, you wrote: Michael Chapman wrote: | On Wednesday 18 April 2001 09:08, Greg Black wrote: | | > This goal is much better met by attaching a digital signature | > with PGP or GPG and leaving the document in a form that allows | > its readers to use it in ways that are comfortable for them. | > | But what proposrtion of e-mail recipients have (functionally) access to | (and/or understanding of) PGP/GPG? | Conversely, Acrobat is installed on most people's boxes. > GPG and PGP are as easy to obtain as acrobat. Getting and installing Acrobat is a "no brainer" PGP requires some knowledge and multiple steps. Yes, all of us smart enough to subscribe to a discussion list like this have no trouble with that, but I bet a large fraction of the people who are able to install and use Acrobat Reader cannot overcome the awkward complexity of PGP. It would be somewhat better if it was integrated into commonly used mail programs. How about some statistics? How many people have installed PGP -- and are using it -- versus how many people have installed and are using Acrobat Reader? _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 19-Apr-2001 11:32:29-GMT,2688;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA21539 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 05:32:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id A8DAE2B458; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 13:33:03 +0200 (CEST) Received: from maxim.gbch.net (gw.gbch.net [203.24.22.66]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f3JBWtm17045 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 13:32:55 +0200 Received: (qmail 65611 invoked by uid 1001); 19 Apr 2001 21:32:11 +1000 Message-ID: X-Posted-By: GJB-Post 2.17 10-Apr-2001 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE i386 X-Location: Brisbane, Australia; 27.49841S 152.98439E X-URL: http://www.gbch.net/gjb.html X-Image-URL: http://www.gbch.net/gjb/gjb-auug048.gif X-GPG-Fingerprint: EBB2 2A92 A79D 1533 AC00 3C46 5D83 B6FB 4B04 B7D6 X-PGP-Public-Keys: http://www.gbch.net/keys.html From: Greg Black To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] Re: pdftex-pdfcrypt - The Missing Link(?). References: <01041810281300.06771@localhost.localdomain> <01041714430700.02488@localhost.localdomain> <01041810281300.06771@localhost.localdomain> <5.0.2.1.2.20010419070044.03699290@pop.tiac.net> In-reply-to: <5.0.2.1.2.20010419070044.03699290@pop.tiac.net> of Thu, 19 Apr 2001 07:03:28 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 21:32:10 +1000 | How about some statistics? | How many people have installed PGP -- and are using it -- versus | how many people have installed and are using Acrobat Reader? It won't surprise anybody that I have installed PGP and GPG hundreds of times and have used PGP for many years. As for acrobat -- it can be installed on my platform but it doesn't actually run or do anything useful, so that rather limits its usefulness. _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 19-Apr-2001 11:38:33-GMT,4308;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA21574 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 05:38:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 36D8B2B45E; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 13:39:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: from gate2.isas-dortmund.de (gate2.isas-dortmund.de [193.100.227.139]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3JBcxm17121 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 13:38:59 +0200 Received: from isas-fs.intern.isas-dortmund.de (root@isas-fs.intern.isas-dortmund.de [172.31.0.2]) by gate2.isas-dortmund.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA29609 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 13:12:36 +0200 Received: from pc-spanke2 (pc-holzke.intern.isas-dortmund.de [172.31.10.78]) by isas-fs.intern.isas-dortmund.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA15860 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 13:38:00 +0200 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?J=F6rg_Spanke?=" Organization: ISAS Dortmund To: pdftex@tug.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Message-ID: <3ADEDC29.22862.9785E36@localhost> Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from Quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.daimi.au.dk id f3JBcxm17121 Subject: [pdftex] Degree Celsius Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 12:38:01 +0100 Hi, I'm quite a newbie to pdfLaTeX, but everything I need is working quite nice for except one or two small things. I'm using pdfTeX, Version 3.14159-14f-released-20000525 (MikTeX 2) with WinEdt on WinNT 4.0 or Win98 and I need to use the german "Umlaute", greek letters and the degree "°". Because of this I am using \usepackage[T1]{fontenc} \usepackage[ansinew]{inputenc} for LaTeX compiling. But this will produce a PDF output with pdfLaTeX which really looks ugly on the screen. When I use the WinEdt feature for saving ä as "ä" -> \"{a} the Umlaute are all right. But there is still no "degree" and something strange is happening with the greek symbols. "$\alpha$-Pinen" produces sometimes the correct output "a-Pinen" but sometimes it produces "aPinen". In this strange cases the log file says that cmr has no "-". So what font, font-map or encoding do I have to use to produces something nice? At the end of the email is my document preamble if it helps to solve the problem. Jörg \documentclass[a4paper,12pt,german]{article} \usepackage[sort&compress]{natbib} \usepackage{babel} \usepackage[sumlimits]{amsmath} % AMS-LaTeX \usepackage{a4} \usepackage{fancyhdr} % fancyheadings \pagestyle{fancyplain} \renewcommand{\familydefault}{cmr} \newif\ifpdf % Check for the existence of the variable \pdfoutput: \ifx\pdfoutput\undefined \pdffalse % we are not running PDFLaTeX \else \pdfoutput=1 % we are running PDFLaTeX \pdftrue \fi \ifpdf % Then use your new variable \ifpdf \usepackage[pdftex]{graphicx} \pdfcompresslevel=9 \addtolength{\headwidth}{\marginparsep} \addtolength{\headwidth}{\marginparwidth} \vsize=4.4in \pdfpagewidth=210mm % page width of PDF output \pdfpageheight=297mm % page height of PDF output \else \usepackage[T1]{fontenc} \usepackage[ansinew]{inputenc} \usepackage{srcltx} \usepackage{graphicx} \fi %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Jörg Spanke Institut für Spektrochemie und angewandte Spektroskopie Bunsen-Kirchhoff Str. 11 44139 Dortmund Germany Tel. +49-231-1392-212 Fax. +49-231-1392-120 email spanke@isas-dortmund.de %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 19-Apr-2001 11:47:30-GMT,2955;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA21629 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 05:47:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 9547D2B45D; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 13:48:03 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ecnwall.ecn.nl ([130.112.1.86]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3JBl1m17200 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 13:47:37 +0200 Received: from ecntex.ecn.nl (ecntex.ecn.nl [130.112.1.26]) by ecnwall.ecn.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16FEF2CB for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 13:45:03 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by ecntex.ecn.nl with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <2LDQBKNK>; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 13:45:03 +0200 Message-ID: <92D6AAE888CED411A16A00508BB0B827A24014@ecntex.ecn.nl> From: "Dok, D. van" To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: RE: [pdftex] Degree Celsius MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.daimi.au.dk id f3JBl1m17200 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 13:45:03 +0200 > -----Original Message----- > From: Jörg Spanke [mailto:spanke@isas-dortmund.de] > Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 13:38 > To: pdftex@tug.org > Subject: [pdftex] Degree Celsius > > > Hi, > I'm quite a newbie to pdfLaTeX, but everything I need is working > quite nice for except one or two small things. I'm using pdfTeX, > Version 3.14159-14f-released-20000525 (MikTeX 2) > with WinEdt on WinNT 4.0 or Win98 and I need to use the german > "Umlaute", greek letters and the degree "°". Because of this I am > using \usepackage[T1]{fontenc} > \usepackage[ansinew]{inputenc} > for LaTeX compiling. But this will produce a PDF output with > pdfLaTeX which really looks ugly on the screen. When I use the With OT1 as the font encoding, the type1 versions of Computer Modern are used. With T1, the sauter fonts are used which have refined placement for accents and such. These are created frm metafont source and produce bitmapped fonts instead of outline fonts. If you need the T1 fontenc, you're better off using another font, such as Times. Dennis van Dok _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 19-Apr-2001 11:56:44-GMT,5283;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA21680 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 05:56:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id CF8572B461; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 13:57:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from life.ai.mit.edu (ai.mit.edu [128.52.32.80]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3JBuUm17253 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 13:56:30 +0200 Received: from MAURITIUS.yandy.com (maui [128.52.37.105]) by life.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/AI2.13/ai.master.life:2.21) with ESMTP id HAA04926; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 07:55:47 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.2.20010419075043.036ab3f8@pop.tiac.net> X-Sender: yandy@pop.tiac.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=22J=F6rg_Spanke=22?= , pdftex@tug.org From: Y&Y Support Subject: Re: [pdftex] Degree Celsius In-Reply-To: <3ADEDC29.22862.9785E36@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.daimi.au.dk id f3JBuUm17253 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 07:54:55 -0400 At 12:38 PM 4/19/2001 +0100, Jörg Spanke wrote: >I'm quite a newbie to pdfLaTeX, but everything I need is working >quite nice for except one or two small things. I'm using pdfTeX, >Version 3.14159-14f-released-20000525 (MikTeX 2) >with WinEdt on WinNT 4.0 or Win98 and I need to use the german >"Umlaute", greek letters and the degree "°". Because of this I am >using \usepackage[T1]{fontenc} >\usepackage[ansinew]{inputenc} >for LaTeX compiling. But this will produce a PDF output with >pdfLaTeX which really looks ugly on the screen. When I use the >WinEdt feature for saving ä as "ä" -> \"{a} the Umlaute are all right. >But there is still no "degree" and something strange is happening >with the greek symbols. "$\alpha$-Pinen" produces sometimes the >correct output "a-Pinen" but sometimes it produces "aPinen". In >this strange cases the log file says that cmr has no "-". >So what font, font-map or encoding do I have to use to produces >something nice? If you use CM fonts and switch to T1 encoding, you will switch to EC, which is in bitmapped form and hence looks ugly in Acrobat Reader. One solution is to switch to real text fonts -- like any of the 20,000 -- 90,000 text fonts in Type 1 format. These most all have the "standard" 228 glyphs including the accented characters and special symbols like "degree". Then you have the issue of matching math fonts. See http://www.yandy.com/options.htm for choices. If you like the CM "look," another alternative are real text fonts in the CM style: "European Modern" (EM) http://www.yandy.com/em.htm Yet another alternative is some package like AE or ZE that hacks together accented characters using virtual fonts -- but then you can't do text search or copy and paste properly from the PDF file. >At the end of the email is my document preamble if it helps to >solve the problem. > >Jörg > >\documentclass[a4paper,12pt,german]{article} > \usepackage[sort&compress]{natbib} > \usepackage{babel} > \usepackage[sumlimits]{amsmath} % AMS-LaTeX > \usepackage{a4} > \usepackage{fancyhdr} % fancyheadings > \pagestyle{fancyplain} > > >\renewcommand{\familydefault}{cmr} >\newif\ifpdf % Check for the existence of the variable \pdfoutput: >\ifx\pdfoutput\undefined >\pdffalse % we are not running PDFLaTeX >\else >\pdfoutput=1 % we are running PDFLaTeX >\pdftrue > >\fi \ifpdf % Then use your new variable \ifpdf > \usepackage[pdftex]{graphicx} > \pdfcompresslevel=9 > \addtolength{\headwidth}{\marginparsep} > \addtolength{\headwidth}{\marginparwidth} \vsize=4.4in > > \pdfpagewidth=210mm % page width of PDF output > \pdfpageheight=297mm % page height of PDF output > >\else > \usepackage[T1]{fontenc} > \usepackage[ansinew]{inputenc} > \usepackage{srcltx} > \usepackage{graphicx} >\fi > > > > >%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% > >Jörg Spanke >Institut für Spektrochemie und angewandte Spektroskopie >Bunsen-Kirchhoff Str. 11 >44139 Dortmund >Germany > >Tel. +49-231-1392-212 >Fax. +49-231-1392-120 >email spanke@isas-dortmund.de > >%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% >_______________________________________________ >pdftex mailing list >pdftex@tug.org >http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex -- Y&Y, Inc. Support mailto:support@YandY.com http://www.YandY.com (MT) _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 19-Apr-2001 13:04:27-GMT,3146;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA22170 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 07:04:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id E886C2AE8B; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 15:05:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp9.xs4all.nl (smtp9.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.135]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3JD4em17614 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 15:04:40 +0200 Received: from server-1.pragma-ade.nl (s340-isdn1321.dial.xs4all.nl [194.109.185.41]) by smtp9.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA29835; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 15:04:00 +0200 (CEST) Received: from laptop-1 (laptop-1.pragma-ade.nl [200.1.1.25]) by server-1.pragma-ade.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA10689; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 14:29:12 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20010419142823.015b4100@server-1> X-Sender: hagen@server-1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) To: Y&Y Support From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: [pdftex] Re: pdftex-pdfcrypt - The Missing Link(?). Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.2.20010419070044.03699290@pop.tiac.net> References: <01041810281300.06771@localhost.localdomain> <01041714430700.02488@localhost.localdomain> <01041810281300.06771@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 14:28:23 +0200 At 07:03 AM 4/19/01 -0400, Y&Y Support wrote: >How many people have installed PGP -- and are using it -- versus no, since privacy and the internet are a contradition anyway [take alone spam] so i could not yet motivate myself to install pgp [didn't pgp go commercial recently?] >how many people have installed and are using Acrobat Reader? yes but since docs are for reading i never use encryption unless bypassing bugs force me to do so, but i will play with it a bit anyway Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma@wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 19-Apr-2001 13:29:26-GMT,2751;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA22403 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 07:29:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id A73842B459; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 15:30:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mta4 (mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.10]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3JDTBm17807 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 15:29:11 +0200 Received: from wesley.springies.com (ool-18bad1dd.dyn.optonline.net [24.186.209.221]) by mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.0 Patch 2 (built Dec 14 2000)) with ESMTP id <0GC1006P8K3I8X@mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for pdftex@tug.org; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 09:28:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ats by wesley.springies.com with local (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian)) id 14qEU0-0000NI-00 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 09:28:28 -0400 From: Alan Shutko In-reply-to: <5.0.2.1.2.20010419075043.036ab3f8@pop.tiac.net> To: pdftex@tug.org Message-id: <87pue9ys8l.fsf@wesley.springies.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090001 (Oort Gnus v0.01) Emacs/21.0.102 Lines: 15 References: <5.0.2.1.2.20010419075043.036ab3f8@pop.tiac.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.daimi.au.dk id f3JDTBm17807 Subject: [pdftex] Re: Degree Celsius Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 09:28:28 -0400 Y&Y Support writes: > Yet another alternative is some package like AE or ZE that hacks > together accented characters using virtual fonts -- but then you > can't do text search or copy and paste properly from the PDF file. Could you elaborate on that? I've made a doc with ae and I can do a decent job of cut and paste, except umlauted characters come out like "¨ o". Is this what you were referring to, or is it even worse in older versions of Acrobat? -- Alan Shutko - In a variety of flavors! "I am Holmes of Borg: Watson is irrelervant" _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 19-Apr-2001 13:54:27-GMT,3245;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA22653 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 07:54:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 30C012B45A; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 15:55:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de (waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.4.42]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3JDsxm17997 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 15:54:59 +0200 Received: from peano.cs.uni-dortmund.de (peano.cs.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.28.154]) by waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de with ESMTP id PAA24407; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 15:54:19 +0200 (MES) Received: from peano.cs.uni-dortmund.de (tinne@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by peano.cs.uni-dortmund.de (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id PAA07387; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 15:54:18 +0200 Message-Id: <200104191354.PAA07387@peano.cs.uni-dortmund.de> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 (debian) To: Hans Hagen , pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] Re: pdftex-pdfcrypt - The Missing Link(?). In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 19 Apr 2001 14:28:23 +0200." <3.0.6.32.20010419142823.015b4100@server-1> References: <01041810281300.06771@localhost.localdomain> <01041714430700.02488@localhost.localdomain> <01041810281300.06771@localhost.localdomain> <3.0.6.32.20010419142823.015b4100@server-1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: Karsten Tinnefeld Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 15:54:18 +0200 > no, since privacy and the internet are a contradition anyway [take alone > spam] so i could not yet motivate myself to install pgp [didn't pgp go > commercial recently?] Commercially enough that people get to use gpg (GNU privacy guard) instead, http://www.gnupg.org . "people," e.g., the whole Debian community. > yes but since docs are for reading i never use encryption unless > bypassing bugs force me to do so and there are, anyway, a few publishers that give away documents for free "for screen reading only" which would not otherwise. Karsten -- Karsten Tinnefeld tinnefeld@ls2.cs.uni-dortmund.de Fachbereich Informatik, Lehrstuhl 2 T +49 231 755-4737 Universität Dortmund, D-44221 Dortmund, Deutschland F +49 231 755-2047 _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 19-Apr-2001 14:42:27-GMT,5069;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA23294 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 08:42:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 503FE2B457; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 16:43:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from outbound.mail.uoguelph.ca (ccshst09.cs.uoguelph.ca [131.104.96.18]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3JEgkm18314 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 16:42:46 +0200 Received: from msnet.mathstat.uoguelph.ca (msnet.mathstat.uoguelph.ca [131.104.32.59]) by outbound.mail.uoguelph.ca (8.9.3 (PHNE_21697)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA23402 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 10:42:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from MSNET/SpoolDir by msnet.mathstat.uoguelph.ca (Mercury 1.48); 19 Apr 01 10:41:48 -0500 Received: from SpoolDir by MSNET (Mercury 1.48); 19 Apr 01 10:41:28 -0500 From: "Bill Smith" Organization: Math & Stats, University of Guelph To: pdftex@tug.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: [pdftex] Degree Celsius Message-ID: <3ADEC0D2.4066.67E418@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <3ADEDC29.22862.9785E36@localhost> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from Quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.daimi.au.dk id f3JEgkm18314 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 10:41:23 -0400 I don't use fontenc or ansinew, simply \"{o} $^{\circ}$ The Greek letter problem sounds strange, On 19 Apr 2001, at 12:38, Jörg Spanke wrote: > Hi, > I'm quite a newbie to pdfLaTeX, but everything I need is working quite > nice for except one or two small things. I'm using pdfTeX, Version > 3.14159-14f-released-20000525 (MikTeX 2) with WinEdt on WinNT 4.0 or > Win98 and I need to use the german "Umlaute", greek letters and the > degree "°". Because of this I am using \usepackage[T1]{fontenc} > \usepackage[ansinew]{inputenc} for LaTeX compiling. But this will > produce a PDF output with pdfLaTeX which really looks ugly on the > screen. When I use the WinEdt feature for saving ä as "ä" -> \"{a} the > Umlaute are all right. But there is still no "degree" and something > strange is happening with the greek symbols. "$\alpha$-Pinen" produces > sometimes the correct output "a-Pinen" but sometimes it produces > "aPinen". In this strange cases the log file says that cmr has no "-". > So what font, font-map or encoding do I have to use to produces > something nice? > > At the end of the email is my document preamble if it helps to > solve the problem. > > Jörg > > \documentclass[a4paper,12pt,german]{article} > \usepackage[sort&compress]{natbib} > \usepackage{babel} > \usepackage[sumlimits]{amsmath} % AMS-LaTeX > \usepackage{a4} > \usepackage{fancyhdr} % fancyheadings > \pagestyle{fancyplain} > > > \renewcommand{\familydefault}{cmr} > \newif\ifpdf % Check for the existence of the variable \pdfoutput: > \ifx\pdfoutput\undefined \pdffalse % we are not running PDFLaTeX \else > \pdfoutput=1 % we are running PDFLaTeX \pdftrue > > \fi \ifpdf % Then use your new variable \ifpdf > \usepackage[pdftex]{graphicx} > \pdfcompresslevel=9 > \addtolength{\headwidth}{\marginparsep} > \addtolength{\headwidth}{\marginparwidth} \vsize=4.4in > > \pdfpagewidth=210mm % page width of PDF output > \pdfpageheight=297mm % page height of PDF output > > \else > \usepackage[T1]{fontenc} > \usepackage[ansinew]{inputenc} > \usepackage{srcltx} > \usepackage{graphicx} > \fi > > > > > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% > > Jörg Spanke > Institut für Spektrochemie und angewandte Spektroskopie > Bunsen-Kirchhoff Str. 11 > 44139 Dortmund > Germany > > Tel. +49-231-1392-212 > Fax. +49-231-1392-120 > email spanke@isas-dortmund.de > > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% > _______________________________________________ > pdftex mailing list > pdftex@tug.org > http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex Best Regards, W. R. Smith, Professor Dept. of Mathematics and Statistics and School of Engineering Room 546 MacNaughton Building University of Guelph Stone Road and Gordon Streets Guelph, Ontario, CANADA N1G 2W1 Tel: 519-824-4120, ext. 3038; FAX: 519-837-0221; http://www.mathstat.uoguelph.ca/faculty/smith/ _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 19-Apr-2001 15:33:27-GMT,6224;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA24139 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 09:33:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id E55C52B45C; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 17:34:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from portal.aerojet.com (portal.aerojet.com [192.149.4.254]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3JFXJm18605 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 17:33:19 +0200 Received: (from smapu@localhost) by portal.aerojet.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA03743 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 08:32:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1-az.aerojet.com(159.4.1.8) by portal.aerojet.com via smap (V1.3) id sma003650; Thu Apr 19 08:31:49 2001 Received: from azu-mail02.az.aerojet.com ([159.4.100.115]) by radon.az.aerojet.com (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with ESMTP id AAA939596 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 08:31:48 -0700 Received: by azu-mail02.az.aerojet.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <26SDW76N>; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 08:31:48 -0700 Message-ID: <9976F68AE900D411B3870008C7564544D9E555@azu-mail01.aes.com> From: MARK.WROTH@Aerojet.com (Wroth, Mark) To: "'pdftex@tug.org'" Subject: Re: [pdftex] Re: pdftex-pdfcrypt - The Missing Link(?). MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 08:31:39 -0700 Various people commented on Greg Black 's assertions regarding Michael Chapman's intended uses for pdfcrypt: MC| 1. I am treasurer of the WWW Virtual Library project. I am due to publish the MC| accounts. I will now do so not only by plain text e-mail but 'for the record' MC| as a PDF document. MC| Obviously any inspired 14-year-old cracker could 'forge' a look-alike balance MC| sheet, but by closing the file to alterations it stops anyone innocently MC| (officiously) fiddling with them -the gratuitous correction of a seeming MC| typo' before passing them on, etc. There is thus one document (with all its MC| typo's :-)> ) as a document of record. GB> This goal is much better met by attaching a digital signature GB> with PGP or GPG and leaving the document in a form that allows GB> its readers to use it in ways that are comfortable for them. I have to agree with Greg here. Several comments: PGP integrates quite nicely into both of the mailers I use, and the installation is not difficult. But this is a red herring. If the goal is to be able to verify that the "record copy" is in fact what the author sent out, a digital signature is the right answer (using whatever tool). Most users will not need to make that verification; those who do should adopt a tool that lets them do so. If the organization can't agree on such a tool, then electronic forms should not be the record document. It's relevant, of course, that a document signed but not encrypted by PGP is readable whether or not you choose to verify the signature. Encrypting the PDF makes it harder to change the document, but provides no way of verifying whether the document is the original. Michael Chapman then asked MC> But what proposrtion of e-mail recipients have (functionally) access to MC> (and/or understanding of) PGP/GPG? MC> Conversely, Acrobat is installed on most people's boxes. I think the question should be "what proportion _of the people who need to verify the authorship of the document_ have access to PGP?" If the answer to that (or the equivalent question for some other signature tool) is not "almost all", then you ought not be using an electronic version as a record copy. But the key point, I think, is that I suspect this group is much smaller than the people who merely want to read the document. MC| 2. We publish a (free) newsletter. This has split into a plain text version MC| and an on-screen (was HTML, now moving to PDF on-screen) version. MC| Printing out the sreen version looses you all the link information. I will MC| lock out printing on the 'colour edition' to force naive users to use the MC| better edition for them. (I think that is constructive and not over nanny-ing MC| ?) GB> Again, this is just absurd. If you don't want people to see the GB> contents at all, encrypt the document (but with a purpose-built GB> tool like PGP or GPG). But, if you want people to read it, GB> don't patronise them by deciding that you know best how they GB> should go about it. It's perfectly reasonable for somebody to GB> choose to have a printed copy for reading or reference and to GB> accept that she can't click on links that way. Give up on this GB> silliness. While I might disagree with the tone of Greg's comments, I have to agree with the meat of them. Hyperlinks don't typically work real well on paper copies, so the loss of hyperlink information at the "print to paper" step seems a poor reason to deny people the ability to print the document. Why is it important to limit your readers' ability to do things the way they want to, whether you think that's the way they _should_ want to or not? pdfcrypt is probably useful for some purposes; I haven't seen any need for it personally, but I have no gripe with it being available for people who do. But I don't think it's a good solution for authenticating documents, and I can't say that (attempting to) prevent users from printing the document seems like a strong argument. Mark _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 19-Apr-2001 15:41:31-GMT,3265;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA24278 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 09:41:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id A04DE2B457; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 17:42:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from life.ai.mit.edu (life.ai.mit.edu [128.52.32.80]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3JFfPm18696 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 17:41:25 +0200 Received: from MAURITIUS.yandy.com (maui [128.52.37.105]) by life.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/AI2.13/ai.master.life:2.21) with ESMTP id LAA01158; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 11:40:31 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.2.20010419113854.0271ae38@pop.tiac.net> X-Sender: yandy@pop.tiac.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 To: Alan Shutko , pdftex@tug.org From: Y&Y Support Subject: Re: [pdftex] Re: Degree Celsius In-Reply-To: <87pue9ys8l.fsf@wesley.springies.com> References: <5.0.2.1.2.20010419075043.036ab3f8@pop.tiac.net> <5.0.2.1.2.20010419075043.036ab3f8@pop.tiac.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.daimi.au.dk id f3JFfPm18696 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 11:39:38 -0400 At 09:28 AM 4/19/2001 -0400, you wrote: Y&Y Support writes: > Yet another alternative is some package like AE or ZE that hacks > together accented characters using virtual fonts -- but then you > can't do text search or copy and paste properly from the PDF file. . Could you elaborate on that? . I've made a doc with ae and I can do a decent job of cut and paste, . except umlauted characters come out like "¨ o". Is this what you were . referring to, or is it even worse in older versions of Acrobat? No, that is exactly it. Accented characters are made by combining base and accent when using these packages. This means you can't do a search on a word that contains an accented character, and when you "cut and paste" a word containing an accented character you will get multiple letters (in an extreme cases it will also screw up Acrobat Readers clever method for detecting where word boundaries are). -- Alan Shutko - In a variety of flavors! "I am Holmes of Borg: Watson is irrelevant" _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex -- Y&Y, Inc. Support mailto:support@YandY.com http://www.YandY.com (MT) _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 19-Apr-2001 15:43:44-GMT,2831;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA24306 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 09:43:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 90AD62B467; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 17:44:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from life.ai.mit.edu (life.ai.mit.edu [128.52.32.80]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3JFhhm18748 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 17:43:43 +0200 Received: from MAURITIUS.yandy.com (maui [128.52.37.105]) by life.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/AI2.13/ai.master.life:2.21) with ESMTP id LAA01480; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 11:42:36 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.2.20010419114049.02e4ae40@pop.tiac.net> X-Sender: yandy@pop.tiac.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 To: Karsten Tinnefeld , Hans Hagen , pdftex@tug.org From: Y&Y Support Subject: Re: [pdftex] Re: pdftex-pdfcrypt - The Missing Link(?). In-Reply-To: <200104191354.PAA07387@peano.cs.uni-dortmund.de> References: <01041810281300.06771@localhost.localdomain> <01041714430700.02488@localhost.localdomain> <01041810281300.06771@localhost.localdomain> <3.0.6.32.20010419142823.015b4100@server-1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 11:41:43 -0400 At 03:54 PM 4/19/2001 +0200, you wrote: >> yes but since docs are for reading i never use encryption unless >> bypassing bugs force me to do so > and there are, anyway, a few publishers that give away documents for > free "for screen reading only" which would not otherwise. The reason being that it does not work. There are too many ways to work around a "do not print" limitation for it to be serious. Every day or two someone on comp.text.pdf asks about this or explains how to do it. _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 19-Apr-2001 16:04:27-GMT,2373;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA24929 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 10:04:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 6D0F42B459; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 18:05:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from gate2.isas-dortmund.de (gate2.isas-dortmund.de [193.100.227.139]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3JG4vm18831 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 18:04:57 +0200 Received: from isas-fs.intern.isas-dortmund.de (root@isas-fs.intern.isas-dortmund.de [172.31.0.2]) by gate2.isas-dortmund.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA18250 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 17:38:32 +0200 Received: from pc-spanke2 (pc-holzke.intern.isas-dortmund.de [172.31.10.78]) by isas-fs.intern.isas-dortmund.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA06409 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 18:03:57 +0200 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?J=F6rg_Spanke?=" Organization: ISAS Dortmund To: pdftex@tug.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: [pdftex] Degree Celsius Message-ID: <3ADF1A7F.11961.A6BE035@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from Quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.daimi.au.dk id f3JG4vm18831 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 17:03:59 +0100 > Use \usepackage{ae} and you will be on your way. Thank you for the hint. I have downloaded the ae.zip for fptex, installed it and it works! Is it possible to put this in the pdfTeX manual or FAQ? Jörg _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 19-Apr-2001 16:08:28-GMT,2279;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA25026 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 10:08:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 8049B2B457; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 18:09:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from wisbech.cl.cam.ac.uk (mta1.cl.cam.ac.uk [128.232.0.15]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3JG8lm18914 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 18:08:47 +0200 Received: from pallas.cl.cam.ac.uk ([128.232.8.88] helo=cl.cam.ac.uk ident=rf) by wisbech.cl.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.092 #1) id 14qGyV-0006f2-00; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 17:08:07 +0100 To: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?J=F6rg_Spanke?=" Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] Degree Celsius In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 19 Apr 2001 17:03:59 BST." <3ADF1A7F.11961.A6BE035@localhost> From: Robin Fairbairns Message-Id: Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 17:08:06 +0100 > > Use \usepackage{ae} and you will be on your way. > Thank you for the hint. I have downloaded the ae.zip for fptex, > installed it and it works! Is it possible to put this in the pdfTeX > manual or FAQ? it's not really pdftex specific (it applies equally well to distilled output). i have an answer for the uk tex faq (http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq) on the stocks, that will mention ae and the competing zefonts. it will also (don't worry, berthold) mention the problems that they present to acrobat reader users. robin _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 19-Apr-2001 16:18:28-GMT,3603;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA25194 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 10:18:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 92BFC2B45A; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 18:19:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de (waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.4.42]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3JGImm19000 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 18:18:48 +0200 Received: from peano.cs.uni-dortmund.de (peano.cs.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.28.154]) by waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de with ESMTP id SAA29239; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 18:18:08 +0200 (MES) Received: from peano.cs.uni-dortmund.de (tinne@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by peano.cs.uni-dortmund.de (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id SAA08374; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 18:18:07 +0200 Message-Id: <200104191618.SAA08374@peano.cs.uni-dortmund.de> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 (debian) To: Y&Y Support Cc: Hans Hagen , pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] Re: pdftex-pdfcrypt - The Missing Link(?). In-Reply-To: Message from Y&Y Support of "Thu, 19 Apr 2001 11:41:43 EDT." <5.0.2.1.2.20010419114049.02e4ae40@pop.tiac.net> References: <01041810281300.06771@localhost.localdomain> <01041714430700.02488@localhost.localdomain> <01041810281300.06771@localhost.localdomain> <3.0.6.32.20010419142823.015b4100@server-1> <5.0.2.1.2.20010419114049.02e4ae40@pop.tiac.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: Karsten Tinnefeld Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 18:18:06 +0200 Berthold(?), > > and there are, anyway, a few publishers that give away documents for > > free "for screen reading only" which would not otherwise. > > The reason being that it does not work. There are too many ways > to work around a "do not print" limitation for it to be serious. > Every day or two someone on comp.text.pdf asks about this or > explains how to do it. Yes, this is the thing remarkable about that: that there *exist* people who are ignorant of this fact. E.g., you can download "disabled" versions of the German federal law proceedings "Bundesgesetzblatt" from http://www.bundesanzeiger.de/bgbl1.htm or choose to pay EUR 135 for an "enabled" version from the same place. Karsten -- Karsten Tinnefeld tinnefeld@ls2.cs.uni-dortmund.de Fachbereich Informatik, Lehrstuhl 2 T +49 231 755-4737 Universität Dortmund, D-44221 Dortmund, Deutschland F +49 231 755-2047 _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 19-Apr-2001 18:31:28-GMT,2558;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA28008 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 12:31:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 2C3E32B462; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 20:32:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mr.tuwien.ac.at (mr.tuwien.ac.at [128.130.2.10]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3JIVUm19708 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 20:31:30 +0200 Received: from xadhoom (rg1000a.ikn.tuwien.ac.at [128.131.88.100]) by mr.tuwien.ac.at (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f3JI9ZU19081 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 20:09:40 +0200 (MET DST) From: "Fritz Diener" To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Subject: [pdftex] cmtt 11pt Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 20:07:35 +0200 hi! im using miktex 2.0, pdftex 0.14f and the adobe reader 5.0. everything works fine, the pdf output looks great ... ... but only on the monitor. can anybody tell me why i have a high quality online-version, but if i want to print it out, adobe tell's me, that he's unable to load a font. If i use cmtt 12pt instead, everything works fine. do i have a bad configuration file (pdftex.cfg only loads psfonts.map) if i use pdftex.cfg.cs, the version is printable, but the monitor looks awful (guess this is a cfg file which uses bitmaps). i seems to me as cmtt 11pt is missing... i am not sure if it depends on the adobe reader 5.0, unluckely i'm forced to use this version. thanx, max _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 19-Apr-2001 18:32:48-GMT,3025;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA28044 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 12:32:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id C5AF02B46A; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 20:33:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de (zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.53]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3JIWZm19772 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 20:32:35 +0200 Received: from zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de.kammer.uni-hannover.de (reinhard@zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.54]) by zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA04251; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 19:58:15 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de: Host reinhard@zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.54] claimed to be zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de.kammer.uni-hannover.de From: Reinhard Kotucha MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Message-ID: <15071.10160.420208.358282@zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de> To: "Jörg" Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: [pdftex] Degree Celsius In-Reply-To: <3ADF1A7F.11961.A6BE035@localhost> References: <3ADF1A7F.11961.A6BE035@localhost> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under Emacs 20.7.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.daimi.au.dk id f3JIWZm19772 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 20:00:16 +0200 >>>>> "Jörg" == Jörg Spanke?= writes: >> Use \usepackage{ae} and you will be on your way. > Thank you for the hint. I have downloaded the ae.zip for fptex, Doesn't ae come with fpTeX? It's at least part of the teTeX distribution, so it should be in fpTeX as well. Reinhard -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Reinhard Kotucha Phone: +49-511-751355 Berggartenstr. 9 D-30419 Hannover mailto:reinhard@kammer.uni-hannover.de ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Microsoft isn't the answer. Microsoft is the question, and the answer is NO. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 20-Apr-2001 6:06:27-GMT,3112;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA06270 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 00:06:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 88B9F2B459; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 08:07:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from dagalas.gps.caltech.edu (dagalas.gps.caltech.edu [131.215.65.11]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3K66rm22563 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 08:06:54 +0200 Received: from usc.edu (IDENT:lupei@43-pppold-its.caltech.edu [131.215.138.43]) by dagalas.gps.caltech.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA08768 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 23:06:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3ADFC460.58E5C90D@usc.edu> From: Lupei Zhu X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-22 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [pdftex] install pdftex 0.14h binary failed, please help. Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 22:08:48 -0700 Hi I want to update pdftex on my RH7.0 PC (which was installed 14d by redhat). I did as follows: 1) download file from ftp.muni.cz 2) unzip it and copy pdftex.pool, pdfetex.pool to /usr/share/texmf/web2c, copy those excutables to /usr/bin 3) in web2c, run texconfig init. I found that it only regenerated several other *.fmt files but not pdf*.fmt. So when I tried to run "pdflatex ...", I got error complaining wrong format. 4) I used followings to regenerate format files: pdftex -ini -fmt=pdftex plain \dump pdftex -ini -fmt=pdflatex latex.ltx pdfetex -ini -efmt=pdfetex plain \dump pdfetex -ini -efmt=pdfelatex latex.ltx all worked fine. 5) now run "pdftex -version", I got: pdfTeX (Web2C 7.3.3.1) 3.14159-0.14h-released-20010417 kpathsea version 3.3.3.1 Copyright (C) 1999 Han The Thanh, Petr Sojka, and Jiri Zlatuska. .... 6) but when I try to compile a tex file by "pdflatex aaa.tex", I got this error This is pdfTeX, Version 3.14159-14h-released-20010417 (Web2C 7.3.3.1) (./aaa.tex Error: pdflatex (file pdftex.cfg): cannot open config file I find that if I copy the file /usr/share/texmf/pdftex/config/pdftex.cfg to the current directory, the above works. I tried to set the TEXPSHEADERS to point that directory, it doesn't help. I am stuck here. can anyone please help me? thanks alot. Lupei _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 20-Apr-2001 6:26:27-GMT,2195;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA06485 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 00:26:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 3E7A22B457; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 08:27:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fourier.aero.iisc.ernet.in (fourier.aero.iisc.ernet.in [144.16.73.3]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3K6Q9m22672 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 08:26:10 +0200 Received: from localhost (mohit@localhost) by fourier.aero.iisc.ernet.in (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f3K6Tpo22466 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 11:59:52 +0530 From: Mohit Agarwal Reply-To: To: pdfTeX mailing list Subject: Re: [pdftex] install pdftex 0.14h binary failed, please help. In-Reply-To: <3ADFC460.58E5C90D@usc.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 11:59:51 +0530 (IST) *** Lupei Zhu wrote on pdfTeX list on 2001-04-19 at 22:08 -0700: : Error: pdflatex (file pdftex.cfg): cannot open config file : : I find that if I copy the file : /usr/share/texmf/pdftex/config/pdftex.cfg to the current directory, the : above works. I tried to set the TEXPSHEADERS to point that directory, it : doesn't help. It should work if you help TEXINPUTS to point to that directory. _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 20-Apr-2001 6:32:27-GMT,3969;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA06548 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 00:32:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id A5AB82B465; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 08:33:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from bassia.wanadoo.fr (smtp-rt-5.wanadoo.fr [193.252.19.159]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3K6WTm22746 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 08:32:29 +0200 Received: from amyris.wanadoo.fr (193.252.19.150) by bassia.wanadoo.fr; 20 Apr 2001 08:31:49 +0200 Received: from localhost.localdomain (193.249.244.130) by amyris.wanadoo.fr; 20 Apr 2001 08:31:47 +0200 From: Michael Chapman X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Cc: Hans Hagen , pdftex@tug.org To: Karsten Tinnefeld , Y&Y Support References: <5.0.2.1.2.20010419114049.02e4ae40@pop.tiac.net> <200104191618.SAA08374@peano.cs.uni-dortmund.de> In-Reply-To: <200104191618.SAA08374@peano.cs.uni-dortmund.de> Subject: Re: [pdftex] Re: pdftex-pdfcrypt - The Missing Link(?). MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01042007134600.09390@localhost.localdomain> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 08:26:32 +0200 Firstly thanks to everyone for the debate. My primary intention was to advocate incorporation into pdfTex -that was irrelevant within an hour or so of my message. I have certainly learnt much from the subsequent comments though. Many of the points have no solution, they are (to quote myself) "balances". Is it more over-bearing to presume that people will behave rationally or to try and stop them behaving irrationally or to ...... ? On Thursday 19 April 2001 17:31, Wroth, Mark wrote: > Encrypting the PDF makes it harder to change the document, but provides no > way of verifying whether the document is the original. > Agreed, but I (and others will differ) was not purusing absolute verifiability. I was happy with a "threshold" that it would be difficult for someone to claim to have crossed in good faith. After all, 'real' company accounts to members are not individually signed, merely printed. One might accidently mis-report what they say but one could not accidently (even if, in these day with DTP, easily) re-typeset them. On Thursday 19 April 2001 18:18, Karsten Tinnefeld wrote: > E.g., you can download "disabled" versions of the German federal law > proceedings "Bundesgesetzblatt" from > http://www.bundesanzeiger.de/bgbl1.htm or choose to pay EUR 135 for an > "enabled" version from the same place. > Which seems to indicate that some people are absurdly computer-illiterate . . . or honest? In Geneva newspapers used to be sold from open trays/boxes in the street, without vendor, and a box to put the money in. It worked (though one doubts 100%) (and the money box was 'closed' ;-)> !). Michael Chapman. P.S. Interesting as all this is --and I don't want to try and grab the last word-- but I do fear we are getting a little distant from the main urpose of this list. MC _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 20-Apr-2001 6:49:26-GMT,2649;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA06616 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 00:49:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id E62CA2B463; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 08:50:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from dagalas.gps.caltech.edu (dagalas.gps.caltech.edu [131.215.65.11]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3K6mxm22855 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 08:48:59 +0200 Received: from usc.edu (IDENT:lupei@43-pppold-its.caltech.edu [131.215.138.43]) by dagalas.gps.caltech.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA09455; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 23:48:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3ADFCE3E.BE69AE99@usc.edu> From: Lupei Zhu X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-22 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.org, wilkenin@math.lbl.gov Subject: Re: [pdftex] install pdftex 0.14h binary failed, please help. References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=gb2312 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 22:50:54 -0700 You are right, I made a mistake when setting it as export TEXINPUTS=.:$HOME/MyInstalls/tex//:/usr/share/texmf/tex// I changed it to export TEXINPUTS=.:$HOME/MyInstalls/tex//:/usr/share/texmf// now everything works. Mohit Agarwal wrote: > *** Lupei Zhu wrote on pdfTeX list on 2001-04-19 at 22:08 -0700: > > : Error: pdflatex (file pdftex.cfg): cannot open config file > : > : I find that if I copy the file > : /usr/share/texmf/pdftex/config/pdftex.cfg to the current directory, the > : above works. I tried to set the TEXPSHEADERS to point that directory, it > : doesn't help. > > It should work if you help TEXINPUTS to point to that directory. > > _______________________________________________ > pdftex mailing list > pdftex@tug.org > http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 20-Apr-2001 7:10:27-GMT,2191;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA06729 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 01:10:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id CAC142B476; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 09:11:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from jupiter.fsci.fuk.kindai.ac.jp (jupiter.fsci.fuk.kindai.ac.jp [157.13.51.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3K7AVm23011 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 09:10:34 +0200 Received: by jupiter.fsci.fuk.kindai.ac.jp (8.9.3+3.2W/3.7W-kfsci) id QAA18375; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 16:11:56 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <200104200711.QAA18375@jupiter.fsci.fuk.kindai.ac.jp> To: lupei@usc.edu Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] install pdftex 0.14h binary failed, please help. In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 19 Apr 2001 22:08:48 -0700" References: <3ADFC460.58E5C90D@usc.edu> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.70 on Emacs 19.34.1 / Mule 2.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Akira Kakuto Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 16:11:55 +0900 From: Lupei Zhu Subject: [pdftex] install pdftex 0.14h binary failed, please help. > pdfetex -ini -efmt=pdfetex plain \dump > pdfetex -ini -efmt=pdfelatex latex.ltx The following are better: pdfetex -ini -efmt=pdfetex '*etex.src' \\dump pdfetex -ini -progname=pdfelatex -efmt=pdfelatex '*latex.ltx' -- Akira Kakuto _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 20-Apr-2001 8:24:27-GMT,4097;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA07177 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 02:24:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 43ACF2B45B; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 10:25:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from POP3.tu-dresden.de (pop3.tu-dresden.de [141.30.66.133]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f3K8Orm23383 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 10:24:53 +0200 Received: from rmail.urz.tu-dresden.de by rkstest with SMTP (PP); Fri, 20 Apr 2001 10:22:14 +0200 Received: from physik.phy.tu-dresden.de by rmail with SMTP (IC-PP); Fri, 20 Apr 2001 10:17:27 +0200 Received: from pomp47.phy.tu-dresden.de by physik.phy.tu-dresden.de (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA29998; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 10:23:25 +0200 Message-Id: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.7 on Linux X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Organization: IOMP / TU Dresden From: Carsten Schurig To: pdftex@tug.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.daimi.au.dk id f3K8Orm23383 Subject: [pdftex] font expansion Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 10:23:24 +0200 (CEST) Hi, as I'm using the protruding char feature of pdftex for some time now I wanted to test the font expansion. But it doesn't work for me. All I get is: kpathsea: Running mktextfm p1xr+20 mktextfm: Running mf \mode:=ljfive; mag:=1; nonstopmode; input p1xr+20 This is METAFONT, Version 2.7182 (Web2C 7.3.1) kpathsea: Running mktexmf p1xr+20 ! I can't find file `p1xr+20'. <*> ...=ljfive; mag:=1; nonstopmode; input p1xr+20 Please type another input file name ! Emergency stop. <*> ...=ljfive; mag:=1; nonstopmode; input p1xr+20 Transcript written on mfput.log. mktextfm: `mf \mode:=ljfive; mag:=1; nonstopmode; input p1xr+20' failed. kpathsea: Appending font creation commands to missfont.log. ! Font \csname\endcsname=p1xr+20 at 12.0pt not loadable: Metric (TFM) file not found. I know that the special stretched fonts are not available but I thought they would be generated on the fly. I'm using the pxfonts but anyway that doesn't matter, because using times or ec or cm or normal palatino doesn't change anything. To activate the features I use: \def\setupfont{% \setprotcode\font% \pdffontexpand\font 20 20 5 1000% } \def\setupfam{% \setupfont% {\itshape\setupfont}% {\bfseries\setupfont}% and \AtBeginDocument{ \setupfam % normale Fontgröße {\Huge\setupfam} {\huge\setupfam} {\LARGE\setupfam} {\Large\setupfam} {\large\setupfam} {\small\setupfam} % activate the small font {\footnotesize\setupfam} % activate the footnote font {\scriptsize\setupfam} {\tiny\setupfam} } I'm using pdfTeX (Web2C 7.3.3.1) 3.14159-0.14h-released-20010417 kpathsea version 3.3.3.1 It's not utterly important but I'd really like to test what my document would look like. I also hope toreduce the hyphens (my document is in German and in German there are many loooong words, especially in science...). Thanks in advance, Carsten -- http://home.nexgo.de/cs42 _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 20-Apr-2001 11:59:26-GMT,4955;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA08283 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 05:59:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 0A47B2B458; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 14:00:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from cod.mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca (cod.mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca [142.176.61.253]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f3KBxGm24396 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 13:59:16 +0200 Received: id IAA24192; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 08:59:27 -0300 Received: by gateway id <0GC3005ECAK57S@bionet.bio.dfo.ca> for pdftex@tug.org; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 08:57:42 -0300 (ADT) Received: by gateway ??? Received: by gateway id <2GP7WQAB>; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 08:57:56 -0300 From: "White, George" Subject: RE: [pdftex] install pdftex 0.14h binary failed, please help. To: "'Lupei Zhu '" , "'pdftex@tug.org '" Message-id: <25DB90CB4178D4118AB300D0B72E7D03CEB4E8@MSGMARBIO05> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 08:57:50 -0300 This posting and the responses raise the issue of how best to handle updates to various packaged distributions such as linux teTeX, or SGI's freeware teTeX. On single user systems, it may enough to simply install updates over the vendor-supplied configuration, but even so this can create problems if you later want to install a newer version of the system. In some environments (NFS mounted systems, multi-user systems) only administrators are allowed to change the vendor-supplied configuration. It appears that many people attempt to work around problems by setting environment variables such as TEXINPUTS, which tends to defeat the purpose of the kpathsea system. The teTeX system makes it easy to have personalized configurations. You can do this by creating a web2c directory for a customized texmf.cnf, format, pool files, etc. Then set TEXMFCNF to the path for this directory. With this approach, the usual mechanism to find texmf.cnf relative to the location of the binaries is not used, so you can install updated binaries in a new directory. In this way you can test updates without overwriting your vendor-supplied files. To switch back to the vendor configuration you need only remove TEXMFCNF and change the search path. Remarks: item 3+4) you can edit "$TEXMFCNF/fmtutil.cnf" to determine which formats are generated item 6) you should follow the debugging instructions for the kpathsea libraries to determine why the file isn't found. -----Original Message----- From: Lupei Zhu To: pdftex@tug.org Sent: 4/20/01 2:08 AM Subject: [pdftex] install pdftex 0.14h binary failed, please help. Hi I want to update pdftex on my RH7.0 PC (which was installed 14d by redhat). I did as follows: 1) download file from ftp.muni.cz 2) unzip it and copy pdftex.pool, pdfetex.pool to /usr/share/texmf/web2c, copy those excutables to /usr/bin 3) in web2c, run texconfig init. I found that it only regenerated several other *.fmt files but not pdf*.fmt. So when I tried to run "pdflatex ...", I got error complaining wrong format. 4) I used followings to regenerate format files: pdftex -ini -fmt=pdftex plain \dump pdftex -ini -fmt=pdflatex latex.ltx pdfetex -ini -efmt=pdfetex plain \dump pdfetex -ini -efmt=pdfelatex latex.ltx all worked fine. 5) now run "pdftex -version", I got: pdfTeX (Web2C 7.3.3.1) 3.14159-0.14h-released-20010417 kpathsea version 3.3.3.1 Copyright (C) 1999 Han The Thanh, Petr Sojka, and Jiri Zlatuska. .... 6) but when I try to compile a tex file by "pdflatex aaa.tex", I got this error This is pdfTeX, Version 3.14159-14h-released-20010417 (Web2C 7.3.3.1) (./aaa.tex Error: pdflatex (file pdftex.cfg): cannot open config file I find that if I copy the file /usr/share/texmf/pdftex/config/pdftex.cfg to the current directory, the above works. I tried to set the TEXPSHEADERS to point that directory, it doesn't help. I am stuck here. can anyone please help me? thanks alot. Lupei _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 20-Apr-2001 11:25:26-GMT,3126;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA08115 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 05:25:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id BAF7B2AE93; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 13:26:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3KBPUm24162 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 13:25:30 +0200 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA27964; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 13:24:49 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA06918; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 13:24:48 +0200 (MET DST) From: Han The Thanh To: Carsten Schurig Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] font expansion Message-ID: <20010420132448.B3604@anxur.fi.muni.cz> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from Carsten.Schurig@gmx.net on Fri, Apr 20, 2001 at 10:23:24AM +0200 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 13:24:48 +0200 > ... > ! Font \csname\endcsname=p1xr+20 at 12.0pt not loadable: Metric > (TFM) file not found. > > I know that the special stretched fonts are not available but I > thought they would be generated on the fly. they can be generated on the fly, however you need to setup a couple of things before it can work. This issue depends on too many other things, and I only describe here what I have done to get it work on my system (linux/tetex) for isolatin2 encoding only (8z in fontname scheme). 1) I have changed the script mktextfm so it can recognize expanded font names like cmr10+20 or ptmr8z-10 2) if the requested font is a cm or cm-based font (tested with czech and vietnamese cm fonts), then the mf sources are created by increasing the unit width (#u), then the tfm is created using mf. 3) if the requested font is a multiple master font or Type1 font, a script called mktfm8z is called to create the metrics for 8z encoding. The process is rather complicated and hacky. I put the relevant files on ftp://ftp.cstug.cz/pub/tex/local/cstug/thanh/pdftex/ext Thanh _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 20-Apr-2001 12:55:27-GMT,2949;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA08641 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 06:55:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 837A72B45F; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 14:56:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r220-1.rz.RWTH-Aachen.DE (r220-1.rz.RWTH-Aachen.DE [134.130.3.31]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3KCtlm24680 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 14:55:48 +0200 Received: from r220-1.rz.RWTH-Aachen.DE (relay2.RWTH-Aachen.DE [134.130.3.1]) by r220-1.rz.RWTH-Aachen.DE (8.10.1/8.11.3-2) with ESMTP id f3KCt7q27445 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 14:55:07 +0200 (MEST) Received: from gauss.rwth-aachen.de (gauss.lfpt.RWTH-Aachen.DE [134.130.124.11]) by r220-1.rz.RWTH-Aachen.DE (8.10.1/8.11.3/3) with ESMTP id f3KCt6G27437 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 14:55:06 +0200 (MEST) Received: from wallace.rwth-aachen.de (wallace [134.130.124.21]) by gauss.rwth-aachen.de (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA08154 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 14:55:02 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from localhost (jba@localhost) by wallace.rwth-aachen.de (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA19649 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 14:55:01 +0200 (MET DST) From: Juergen Bausa To: pdftex@tug.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [pdftex] AR 5 not working with pdftex? Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 14:55:01 +0200 (MET DST) I just downloaded and installed Acrobat Reader 5.0.1 (german version). However, I found out that this version of the Reader cannot print my pdf-files (generated by pdflatex 14f from MikTeX 2.0UP1) on a Postscript printer under Windows NT. While on a non-Postscript printer everything is ok, when printing on a Postscript-printer I get the message 'A font could not be downloaded properly. The printout might be incorrect' (of course, in german). In the printout some of the cmr-fonts are exchanged against courier. With Acrobat Reader 4.05a everything is fine. Did someone else notice this? Is it a bug in the Reader or in pdftex? Regards, Juergen _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 20-Apr-2001 15:10:27-GMT,3144;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA10571 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 09:10:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 6A3382AE98; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 17:11:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de (zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.53]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3KFAKm25453 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 17:10:20 +0200 Received: from zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de.kammer.uni-hannover.de (reinhard@zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.54]) by zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA01111; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 17:07:30 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de: Host reinhard@zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.54] claimed to be zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de.kammer.uni-hannover.de From: Reinhard Kotucha MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15072.20785.67868.949444@zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de> To: Lupei Zhu Cc: pdftex@tug.org, wilkenin@math.lbl.gov Subject: Re: [pdftex] install pdftex 0.14h binary failed, please help. In-Reply-To: <3ADFCE3E.BE69AE99@usc.edu> References: <3ADFCE3E.BE69AE99@usc.edu> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under Emacs 20.7.2 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 17:09:37 +0200 >>>>> Lupei Zhu writes: > You are right, I made a mistake when setting it as export > TEXINPUTS=.:$HOME/MyInstalls/tex//:/usr/share/texmf/tex// > I changed it to export > TEXINPUTS=.:$HOME/MyInstalls/tex//:/usr/share/texmf// It's better to change it to TEXINPUTS=.:$HOME/MyInstalls/tex//: The trailing colon is a must, then. The path(s) defined in texmf.cnf is then appended to your variable automatically. Reinhard -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Reinhard Kotucha Phone: +49-511-751355 Berggartenstr. 9 D-30419 Hannover mailto:reinhard@kammer.uni-hannover.de ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Microsoft isn't the answer. Microsoft is the question, and the answer is NO. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 20-Apr-2001 13:35:26-GMT,2435;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA09393 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 07:35:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 959D12B467; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 15:36:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3KDZYm24962 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 15:35:34 +0200 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (214@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA19488; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 15:34:53 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from sojka@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA18265; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 15:34:53 +0200 (MET DST) From: Petr Sojka To: Y&Y Support Cc: pdftex@tug.org Message-ID: <20010420153452.L19566@informatics.muni.cz> References: <5.0.2.1.2.20010419075043.036ab3f8@pop.tiac.net> <5.0.2.1.2.20010419075043.036ab3f8@pop.tiac.net> <87pue9ys8l.fsf@wesley.springies.com> <5.0.2.1.2.20010419113854.0271ae38@pop.tiac.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.2.20010419113854.0271ae38@pop.tiac.net>; from Y&Y Support on Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 11:39:38AM -0400 Subject: [pdftex] word boundaries in PDF Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 15:34:52 +0200 On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 11:39:38AM -0400, Y&Y Support wrote: > (in an extreme cases it will also screw up Acrobat > Readers clever method for detecting where word boundaries are). Is the method published somewhere? All my attempts to know the secret has not been succesfull. --ps _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 20-Apr-2001 15:58:25-GMT,3241;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA11294 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 09:58:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 9E75E2B45C; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 17:59:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp9.xs4all.nl (smtp9.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.135]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3KFw2m25788 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 17:58:02 +0200 Received: from server-1.pragma-ade.nl (s340-isdn2479.dial.xs4all.nl [194.109.189.175]) by smtp9.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA24125; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 17:57:20 +0200 (CEST) Received: from laptop-1 (laptop-1.pragma-ade.nl [200.1.1.25]) by server-1.pragma-ade.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA16557; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 17:47:59 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20010420155506.009dfac0@server-1> X-Sender: hagen@server-1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) To: Juergen Bausa From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: [pdftex] AR 5 not working with pdftex? Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 15:55:06 +0200 At 02:55 PM 4/20/01 +0200, Juergen Bausa wrote: >I just downloaded and installed Acrobat Reader 5.0.1 (german version). >However, I found out that this version of the Reader cannot print my >pdf-files (generated by pdflatex 14f from MikTeX 2.0UP1) on a Postscript >printer under Windows NT. While on a non-Postscript printer everything is >ok, when printing on a Postscript-printer I get the message 'A font could >not be downloaded properly. The printout might be incorrect' (of course, >in >german). In the printout some of the cmr-fonts are exchanged against >courier. >With Acrobat Reader 4.05a everything is fine. > >Did someone else notice this? Is it a bug in the Reader or in pdftex? I got some fuzzy "problem 18" reported while opening a big complex file that gives no problem in any other reader. Was anyone using *pdftex* in the alpha / beta testing group? Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma@wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 20-Apr-2001 17:54:26-GMT,2215;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA13555 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 11:54:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 22EF92B468; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 19:55:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from dagalas.gps.caltech.edu (dagalas.gps.caltech.edu [131.215.65.11]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3KHsem26428 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 19:54:40 +0200 Received: from usc.edu (IDENT:lupei@2-pppold-its.caltech.edu [131.215.138.2]) by dagalas.gps.caltech.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA23530 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 10:53:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3AE06A42.D7682C5E@usc.edu> From: Lupei Zhu X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-22 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=gb2312 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [pdftex] help: epstopdf loses resolution after ghostscript upgrad Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 09:56:34 -0700 Hi, I upgraded the ghostscript on my RH7.0 system from 5.5 to AFPL 7.0. When I use epstopdf to convert eps file to pdf file, I noticed that the size of the generated pdf file is much smaller that it used to be (which is good), but the resolution deteriorates (I put an example in http://www.gps.caltech.edu/~lupei/temp, so someone can check out). Is there some option to control this? any help will be appreciated. Lupei _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 20-Apr-2001 18:26:26-GMT,2986;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA14273 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 12:26:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id CF0E12B469; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 20:27:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mta8 (mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.23]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3KIQAm26603 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 20:26:10 +0200 Received: from wesley.springies.com (ool-18bad1dd.dyn.optonline.net [24.186.209.221]) by mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.0 Patch 2 (built Dec 14 2000)) with ESMTP id <0GC300HKSSIGQS@mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for pdftex@tug.org; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 14:25:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ats by wesley.springies.com with local (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian)) id 14qfay-0002X2-00 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 14:25:28 -0400 From: Alan Shutko In-reply-to: <3AE06A42.D7682C5E@usc.edu> To: pdftex@tug.org Message-id: <87pue7ig32.fsf@wesley.springies.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT User-Agent: Gnus/5.090001 (Oort Gnus v0.01) Emacs/21.0.102 Lines: 20 References: <3AE06A42.D7682C5E@usc.edu> Subject: [pdftex] Re: help: epstopdf loses resolution after ghostscript upgrad Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 14:25:28 -0400 Lupei Zhu writes: > I upgraded the ghostscript on my RH7.0 system from 5.5 to AFPL 7.0. > When I use epstopdf to convert eps file to pdf file, I noticed that the > size of the generated pdf file is much smaller that it used to be (which > is good), but the resolution deteriorates (I put an example in > http://www.gps.caltech.edu/~lupei/temp, so someone can check out). Is > there some option to control this? I don't think that it lost resolution (there wasn't much there in the eps) but that it was JPEG encoded and got smeared around. Edit epstopdf to include -dColorImageFilter=/FlateEncode when it calls gs, and it should look the same. (I haven't tried this with gs 7.0 yes, but it works with gs 6.50.) It would be nice if you could pass GS parameters into epstopdf.... -- Alan Shutko - In a variety of flavors! Speak softly and carry a +6 two-handed sword. _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 20-Apr-2001 19:41:27-GMT,2489;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA15840 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 13:41:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 85C792AE8B; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 21:42:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from dagalas.gps.caltech.edu (dagalas.gps.caltech.edu [131.215.65.11]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3KJfbm27009 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 21:41:37 +0200 Received: from usc.edu (IDENT:lupei@2-pppold-its.caltech.edu [131.215.138.2]) by dagalas.gps.caltech.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA27741; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 12:40:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3AE08351.AF333DF4@usc.edu> From: Lupei Zhu X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-22 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alan Shutko , pdftex@tug.org References: <3AE06A42.D7682C5E@usc.edu> <87pue7ig32.fsf@wesley.springies.com> <3AE078B3.BDFB9B70@usc.edu> <87hezjieb2.fsf@wesley.springies.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=gb2312 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [pdftex] Re: help: epstopdf loses resolution after ghostscript upgrad Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 11:43:29 -0700 Yes! now the pdf looks the same as the eps file. thanks Lupei Alan Shutko wrote: > Lupei Zhu writes: > > > thank you for your reply. I tried your solution, unfortunately, it doesn't > > work for me. > > You're right, it also needed -dAutoFilterColorImages=false > > Try > > gs -dNOPAUSE -q -dBATCH -dColorImageFilter=/FlateEncode -sDEVICE=pdfwrite \ > -sOutputFile=new.pdf -dAutoFilterColorImages=false prf.eps > > -- > Alan Shutko - In a variety of flavors! > Cat: Companion in grace, beauty, mystery and curiosity! _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 23-Apr-2001 8:00:30-GMT,2770;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA13300 for ; Mon, 23 Apr 2001 02:00:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id B25002AE93; Mon, 23 Apr 2001 10:01:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail2.ox.ac.uk [163.1.2.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3N80gm12136 for ; Mon, 23 Apr 2001 10:00:42 +0200 Received: from heraldgate2.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.50] helo=frontend2.herald.ox.ac.uk ident=exim) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 14rbGK-0001LF-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Mon, 23 Apr 2001 09:00:00 +0100 Received: from spqr-tosh.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.14.230] helo=spqr-tosh ident=rahtz) by frontend2.herald.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 14rbGK-0003YV-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Mon, 23 Apr 2001 09:00:00 +0100 X-Mailer: emacs 20.7.2 (via feedmail 8 Q); VM 6.92 under Emacs 20.7.2 From: "Sebastian Rahtz" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15075.25238.988910.42117@gargle.gargle.HOWL> To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] Re: pdftex-pdfcrypt - The Missing Link(?). In-Reply-To: References: <01041810281300.06771@localhost.localdomain> <01041714430700.02488@localhost.localdomain> <5.0.2.1.2.20010419070044.03699290@pop.tiac.net> Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 00:00:38 +0100 > How about some statistics? > How many people have installed PGP -- and are using it -- versus > how many people have installed and are using Acrobat Reader? Quite. I count myself as pretty nerdy, and I have never even *tried* to install PGP or understand it. Golly, I barely have MIME working! But then I put myself in the "pdfcrypt? no thanks!" camp :-} Sebastian _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 23-Apr-2001 8:59:25-GMT,3247;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA13594 for ; Mon, 23 Apr 2001 02:59:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 0AAB22AE98; Mon, 23 Apr 2001 11:00:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from aleph.net.uniovi.es (aleph.net.uniovi.es [156.35.11.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3N8xCm12441 for ; Mon, 23 Apr 2001 10:59:13 +0200 Received: from bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es (bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es [156.35.56.38]) by aleph.net.uniovi.es (PMDF V6.0-24 #45227) with ESMTP id <01K2QJ6G4IKI0065CV@aleph.net.uniovi.es> for pdftex@tug.org; Mon, 23 Apr 2001 10:58:24 +0200 (MET) Received: from localhost (carmenes@localhost) by bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f3N8wCJ21451 for ; Mon, 23 Apr 2001 10:58:12 +0200 From: Ricardo Sanchez Carmenes Subject: Re: [pdftex] Re: pdftex-pdfcrypt - The Missing Link(?). In-reply-to: <15075.25238.988910.42117@gargle.gargle.HOWL> X-Sender: carmenes@bioinf.medicina.uniovi.es To: pdftex@tug.org Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 10:58:11 +0200 (CEST) On Mon, 23 Apr 2001, Sebastian Rahtz wrote: > But then I put myself in the "pdfcrypt? no thanks!" camp :-} I knew in advance that there would be people in favor and others against, as encryption is one of these topics that tends to get people emotionally involved ... like nuclear energy among others, fields where I have myself mixed views. As in most of these fields, I understand both "camps", therefore I do not fully subscribe any. Anyway, like it or not, encryption is here to stay, it has its uses (legitimate and less legitimate, clever or unclever, as everything in life), and it has been included in the PDF specs, so I see no reason for not to make it available to pdftex users. My greatest regret is that, as currently defined, one cannot encrypt only some parts of the pdf file. My primary interest would be to have one file with questions and problems were only their answers are encrypted, so that the user will be able to read the answers when the password is released. Would it be possible to reach this goal using embeded java code ? (I must say that I am totally java-illiterate). Regards to all, Ricardo. _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 23-Apr-2001 12:22:25-GMT,3245;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA14540 for ; Mon, 23 Apr 2001 06:22:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 1BA7D2AE93; Mon, 23 Apr 2001 14:23:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from cod.mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca (cod.mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca [142.176.61.253]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f3NCMdm16550 for ; Mon, 23 Apr 2001 14:22:40 +0200 Received: id JAA21126; Mon, 23 Apr 2001 09:22:44 -0300 Received: by gateway id <0GC800705VMUFQ@bionet.bio.dfo.ca> for pdftex@tug.org; Mon, 23 Apr 2001 09:20:54 -0300 (ADT) Received: by gateway ??? Received: by gateway id <2GP7W5JK>; Mon, 23 Apr 2001 09:20:53 -0300 From: "White, George" Subject: RE: [pdftex] Re: help: epstopdf loses resolution after ghostscrip t upgrad To: "'Lupei Zhu '" , "'Alan Shutko '" , "'pdftex@tug.org '" Message-id: <25DB90CB4178D4118AB300D0B72E7D03CEB4EA@MSGMARBIO05> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-type: text/plain; charset="gb2312" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 09:20:49 -0300 With current versions of ghostscript, you should probably add a reference to .setpdfwrite: gs -dNOPAUSE -q -dBATCH \ -dColorImageFilter=/FlateEncode \ -sDEVICE=pdfwrite \ -sOutputFile=new.pdf \ -dAutoFilterColorImages=false \ -c .setpdfwrite -f prf.eps -c quit Look in gs_pdfwr.ps for definitions. You may want to add your own definitions to this file. Currently (gs7.00) all .setpdfwrite does is tweak the VM and do a "save pop" to decrease font loading. -----Original Message----- From: Lupei Zhu To: Alan Shutko; pdftex@tug.org Sent: 4/20/01 3:43 PM Subject: [pdftex] Re: help: epstopdf loses resolution after ghostscript upgrade Yes! now the pdf looks the same as the eps file. thanks Lupei Alan Shutko wrote: > Lupei Zhu writes: > > > thank you for your reply. I tried your solution, unfortunately, it doesn't > > work for me. > > You're right, it also needed -dAutoFilterColorImages=false > > Try > > gs -dNOPAUSE -q -dBATCH -dColorImageFilter=/FlateEncode -sDEVICE=pdfwrite \ > -sOutputFile=new.pdf -dAutoFilterColorImages=false prf.eps > > -- > Alan Shutko - In a variety of flavors! > Cat: Companion in grace, beauty, mystery and curiosity! _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 23-Apr-2001 17:31:25-GMT,2839;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA18512 for ; Mon, 23 Apr 2001 11:31:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 5CC4D2AE93; Mon, 23 Apr 2001 19:32:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from shining.home.chalvatzis.de (ffmdi4-145-253-146-158.arcor-ip.net [145.253.146.158]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3NHVNm18250 for ; Mon, 23 Apr 2001 19:31:24 +0200 Received: from shining (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by shining.home.chalvatzis.de (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f3NHUdP02287 for ; Mon, 23 Apr 2001 19:30:39 +0200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Michail Chalvatzis Reply-To: michail@chalvatzis.de To: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01042319303801.00390@shining> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.daimi.au.dk id f3NHVNm18250 Subject: [pdftex] the same look pdflatex=latex Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 19:30:37 +0200 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, this is my first posting in this mailing list. Maybe the question that I have is too stupid to answer. But anyway: How can I achive the same output (same fonts, size, margins) of pdflatex like the output of latex? The situation right now is that the output of pdfllatex is a little bit smaller in fontsize and fontspacing. Everyhting concentrates to the center of the document with the result that the margins in both directions are bigger than in the output of latex. Where do I have to screw? Thanks for your help Best Regards Michael - -- e-mail: mailbox@chalvatzis.de www: http://www.chalvatzis.de/ extract from Netscape's README: *And remember,it's spelled M-i-c-h-a-i-l,but it's pronounced "Michael"! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE65Ga+Pq8H+SA6t60RAsBwAJ0efwtdE0UvtETZxGeF9W6IHmQOeQCdHOQZ W0mmIP/mo0CsiJqlIWOTlo4= =xpLj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 23-Apr-2001 17:52:25-GMT,3316;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA18901 for ; Mon, 23 Apr 2001 11:52:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 397992AE99; Mon, 23 Apr 2001 19:53:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de (zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.53]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3NHqhm18388 for ; Mon, 23 Apr 2001 19:52:43 +0200 Received: from zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de.kammer.uni-hannover.de (reinhard@zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.54]) by zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA17924; Mon, 23 Apr 2001 19:49:50 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de: Host reinhard@zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.54] claimed to be zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de.kammer.uni-hannover.de From: Reinhard Kotucha MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15076.27584.471644.301500@zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de> To: michail@chalvatzis.de Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: [pdftex] the same look pdflatex=latex In-Reply-To: <01042319303801.00390@shining> References: <01042319303801.00390@shining> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under Emacs 20.7.2 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 19:52:00 +0200 >>>>> "Michail" == Michail Chalvatzis writes: > [...] > How can I achive the same output (same fonts, size, margins) of > pdflatex like the output of latex? The situation right now is > that the output of pdfllatex is a little bit smaller in fontsize > and fontspacing. Everyhting concentrates to the center of the > document with the result that the margins in both directions are > bigger than in the output of latex. > Where do I have to screw? The output of latex and pdflatex should be identical. Do you get the same results printing with acroread and xpdf/pdftops? I recently had a similar problem using pdftops, I suppose that one has to specify the paper size. Reinhard -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Reinhard Kotucha Phone: +49-511-751355 Berggartenstr. 9 D-30419 Hannover mailto:reinhard@kammer.uni-hannover.de ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Microsoft isn't the answer. Microsoft is the question, and the answer is NO. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 23-Apr-2001 18:04:25-GMT,2829;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA19291 for ; Mon, 23 Apr 2001 12:04:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id B9EB92B452; Mon, 23 Apr 2001 20:05:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from camelia.wanadoo.fr (smtp-rt-10.wanadoo.fr [193.252.19.59]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3NI4dm18491 for ; Mon, 23 Apr 2001 20:04:40 +0200 Received: from amyris.wanadoo.fr (193.252.19.150) by camelia.wanadoo.fr; 23 Apr 2001 20:03:57 +0200 Received: from jacquesm (193.249.64.249) by amyris.wanadoo.fr; 23 Apr 2001 20:03:40 +0200 Message-ID: <000f01c0cc1f$c588c020$f940f9c1@jacquesm> From: "jacques.marot" To: , References: <01042319303801.00390@shining> Subject: Re: [pdftex] the same look pdflatex=latex MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 20:03:58 +0200 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michail Chalvatzis" To: Sent: Monday, April 23, 2001 7:30 PM Subject: [pdftex] the same look pdflatex=latex > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi, > > this is my first posting in this mailing list. Maybe the question that I have > is too stupid to answer. But anyway: > > How can I achive the same output (same fonts, size, margins) of pdflatex like > the output of latex? > The situation right now is that the output of pdfllatex is a little bit > smaller in fontsize and fontspacing. Everyhting concentrates to the center of > the document with the result that the margins in both directions are bigger > than in the output of latex. > > Where do I have to screw? > > Thanks for your help > It is doubtless ACROBAT the responsible it's necessary to put unavailable the option "adjust" in dialog-print of Acrobat. _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 23-Apr-2001 18:19:25-GMT,3157;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA19621 for ; Mon, 23 Apr 2001 12:19:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 65C002B44F; Mon, 23 Apr 2001 20:20:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from shining.home.chalvatzis.de ([145.253.162.194]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3NIJDm18594 for ; Mon, 23 Apr 2001 20:19:13 +0200 Received: from shining (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by shining.home.chalvatzis.de (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f3NIIFP04799; Mon, 23 Apr 2001 20:18:15 +0200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Michail Chalvatzis Reply-To: michail@chalvatzis.de To: Reinhard Kotucha Subject: Re: [pdftex] the same look pdflatex=latex X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] Cc: pdftex@tug.org References: <01042319303801.00390@shining> <15076.27584.471644.301500@zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de> In-Reply-To: <15076.27584.471644.301500@zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01042320181403.00390@shining> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.daimi.au.dk id f3NIJDm18594 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 20:18:14 +0200 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I have tested so far the printing results only with acroread (m$-windows version, too). And it must work with acroread. I have to mix up the two versions (pdf & ps) of the document, because I want to print the pages with color inside via .pdf (for a windows-based laser-color-printer) and the b/w pages via .ps. But the margins have to be identical to do this. thanks Michael On Monday 23 April 2001 19:52, Reinhard Kotucha wrote: > > The output of latex and pdflatex should be identical. Do you get the > same results printing with acroread and xpdf/pdftops? I recently had > a similar problem using pdftops, I suppose that one has to specify the > paper size. > > Reinhard - -- e-mail: mailbox@chalvatzis.de www: http://www.chalvatzis.de/ extract from Netscape's README: *And remember,it's spelled M-i-c-h-a-i-l,but it's pronounced "Michael"! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE65HHnPq8H+SA6t60RAlYlAKCYBHK6W/F+9dZSU3nncCjoFfeksgCePAwo 9yJz5t2j8NRNCu7T/k7A3t0= =Mphb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 23-Apr-2001 18:25:26-GMT,2820;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA19700 for ; Mon, 23 Apr 2001 12:25:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id F3AAA2B460; Mon, 23 Apr 2001 20:26:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from shining.home.chalvatzis.de ([145.253.162.194]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3NIPYm18666 for ; Mon, 23 Apr 2001 20:25:35 +0200 Received: from shining (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by shining.home.chalvatzis.de (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f3NIOdP06385; Mon, 23 Apr 2001 20:24:39 +0200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Michail Chalvatzis Reply-To: michail@chalvatzis.de To: "jacques.marot" Subject: Re: [pdftex] the same look pdflatex=latex X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] References: <01042319303801.00390@shining> <000f01c0cc1f$c588c020$f940f9c1@jacquesm> In-Reply-To: <000f01c0cc1f$c588c020$f940f9c1@jacquesm> Cc: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01042320243804.00390@shining> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.daimi.au.dk id f3NIPYm18666 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 20:24:38 +0200 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Yo, that was the evil :-) Thanks for your help and lesson. I learned something new, yeah! A big applause to this mailing list. I have never received such a quick solution to a problem. Thanks and bye Michael On Monday 23 April 2001 20:03, jacques.marot wrote: > > It is doubtless ACROBAT the responsible > it's necessary to put unavailable the option "adjust" > in dialog-print of Acrobat. - -- e-mail: mailbox@chalvatzis.de www: http://www.chalvatzis.de/ extract from Netscape's README: *And remember,it's spelled M-i-c-h-a-i-l,but it's pronounced "Michael"! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE65HNmPq8H+SA6t60RAspeAJ9KYtTJ30udphuhKrWZSUwjZOstVACfRqsA Z57lfF+lKEyt5gB7TSR5780= =C+Sz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 24-Apr-2001 16:08:25-GMT,2496;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA04001 for ; Tue, 24 Apr 2001 10:08:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 3CB382AE8B; Tue, 24 Apr 2001 18:09:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from life.ai.mit.edu (life.ai.mit.edu [128.52.32.80]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3OG8Km24260 for ; Tue, 24 Apr 2001 18:08:20 +0200 Received: from MAURITIUS.yandy.com (maui [128.52.37.105]) by life.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/AI2.13/ai.master.life:2.21) with ESMTP id MAA24737; Tue, 24 Apr 2001 12:07:28 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.2.20010424120608.02ff77f0@pop.tiac.net> X-Sender: yandy@pop.tiac.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 To: Petr Sojka From: Y&Y Support Subject: Re: [pdftex] word boundaries in PDF Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: <20010420153452.L19566@informatics.muni.cz> References: <5.0.2.1.2.20010419113854.0271ae38@pop.tiac.net> <5.0.2.1.2.20010419075043.036ab3f8@pop.tiac.net> <5.0.2.1.2.20010419075043.036ab3f8@pop.tiac.net> <87pue9ys8l.fsf@wesley.springies.com> <5.0.2.1.2.20010419113854.0271ae38@pop.tiac.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 12:06:53 -0400 At 03:34 PM 4/20/2001 +0200, Petr Sojka wrote: >On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 11:39:38AM -0400, Y&Y Support wrote: > > (in an extreme cases it will also screw up Acrobat > > Readers clever method for detecting where word boundaries are). >Is the method published somewhere? All my attempts to know >the secret has not been succesfull. As far as I know it remains a secret heuristic - one that seems to work fairly well... _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 24-Apr-2001 17:17:25-GMT,2298;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA05359 for ; Tue, 24 Apr 2001 11:17:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 851682AE98; Tue, 24 Apr 2001 19:18:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from web11906.mail.yahoo.com (web11906.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.172.190]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f3OHHsm24612 for ; Tue, 24 Apr 2001 19:17:54 +0200 Message-ID: <20010424171711.4421.qmail@web11906.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [134.214.96.79] by web11906.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 24 Apr 2001 10:17:11 PDT From: Daniel Garcia To: pdftex@tug.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [pdftex] Problems with metapost Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 10:17:11 -0700 (PDT) I tried to use metapost with pdflatex as it is written in the FAQ, with \usepackage[pdftex]graphicx, \ConvertMptoPDF but everything went wrong, I allways got things like ! Undefined control sequence. \handleMPsequence ...=\MPwidth \vbox to \MPheight {\forgetall \vfill \PDFcod... l.248 showpage ? To my surprise it worked when I inserted these lines just after \documentclass \input supp-mis.tex \input supp-pdf.tex I thought that these two files where loaded by graphicx, could somebody explain what is wrong. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 24-Apr-2001 17:47:24-GMT,2698;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA05855 for ; Tue, 24 Apr 2001 11:47:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 02B762B44A; Tue, 24 Apr 2001 19:48:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from JUPITER.GMTR.COM (jupiter.gmtr.com [212.9.67.146]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f3OHlxm24794 for ; Tue, 24 Apr 2001 19:47:59 +0200 Received: by JUPITER.GMTR.COM(Lotus SMTP MTA Internal build v4.6.2 (651.2 6-10-1998)) id 41256A38.00671DAF ; Tue, 24 Apr 2001 19:46:18 +0100 X-Lotus-FromDomain: GMTR From: alou@mazars.es To: pdftex@tug.org Message-ID: <41256A38.00671BF2.00@JUPITER.GMTR.COM> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Subject: [pdftex] TeX capacity exceeded: [number of destination names=20000] Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 19:46:12 +0100 Hi While typesetting a big document with pdftex (Version 3.14159-14f-released-20000525, MiKTeX 2.0 beta 6) and hyperref (2000/07/02 v6.70m) I got the following fatal error: > ! TeX capacity exceeded, sorry [number of destination names=20000]. > > \endgroup > l.28917 \begin{religion-verse} > > If you really absolutely need more capacity, > you can ask a wizard to enlarge me. > > ! ==> Fatal error occurred, the output PDF file not finished! The document is the Old Testament in Jon Bosak's XML version, which I converted to a 4MB LaTeX file using a XSL. If I typeset the same LaTeX file with standard TeX (and hyperref) there is no problem. I had never seen this error before, and I assume that upgrading the software is a good idea. But what does it mean? Is there some kind of limitation in the number of bookmarks pdftex can handle (I'm generating a bookmark for every verse in the Old Testament)? I typesetted the New Testament using the same process with no problem... Toni alou@mazars.es _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 26-Apr-2001 1:47:24-GMT,2158;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA27236 for ; Wed, 25 Apr 2001 19:47:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id E19C12AE8B; Thu, 26 Apr 2001 03:48:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from hotmail.com (f79.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.79]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3Q1lMm01259 for ; Thu, 26 Apr 2001 03:47:22 +0200 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 25 Apr 2001 18:46:38 -0700 Received: from 216.104.228.116 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 26 Apr 2001 01:46:38 GMT X-Originating-IP: [216.104.228.116] From: "Johannes Graumann" To: pdftex@tug.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Apr 2001 01:46:38.0399 (UTC) FILETIME=[BBDD34F0:01C0CDF2] Subject: [pdftex] Umlaut hyphenation without T1 fontenc Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 01:46:38 -0000 Hello, How can I get \hyphenation{Schwer-be-sch\"a-dig-ten} (given the hyphenation is correct ;o) to work with pdftex without calling \usepackage[T1]{fontenc} (bad resolution ...)? Thanks for any hint, Johannes _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 26-Apr-2001 8:09:24-GMT,3029;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA00626 for ; Thu, 26 Apr 2001 02:09:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 1E84C2AE8B; Thu, 26 Apr 2001 10:10:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de (waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.4.42]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3Q89fm02706 for ; Thu, 26 Apr 2001 10:09:41 +0200 Received: from peano.cs.uni-dortmund.de (peano.cs.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.28.154]) by waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de with ESMTP id KAA24859; Thu, 26 Apr 2001 10:08:58 +0200 (MES) Received: from peano.cs.uni-dortmund.de (tinne@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by peano.cs.uni-dortmund.de (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id KAA04566; Thu, 26 Apr 2001 10:08:58 +0200 Message-Id: <200104260808.KAA04566@peano.cs.uni-dortmund.de> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 (debian) To: "Johannes Graumann" Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] Umlaut hyphenation without T1 fontenc In-Reply-To: Message from "Johannes Graumann" of "Thu, 26 Apr 2001 01:46:38 -0000." References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: Karsten Tinnefeld Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 10:08:58 +0200 > How can I get > \hyphenation{Schwer-be-sch\"a-dig-ten} (given the hyphenation is correct ;o) > to work with pdftex without calling \usepackage[T1]{fontenc} (bad resolution > ...)? (The hyphenation is correct.) Using old text encoding, you cannot, because ä is no OT1 letter. You need to use an T1 encoded font to do so, e.g. the computer modern reencodings \usepackage{ae} or the like. In case you don't do so, the only way is to enter Schwer"-be"-schä"-dig"-ten into your text every time. Guess this is a faq. Gosh, never read the faq for a long time ... Karsten -- Karsten Tinnefeld tinnefeld@ls2.cs.uni-dortmund.de Fachbereich Informatik, Lehrstuhl 2 T +49 231 755-4737 Universität Dortmund, D-44221 Dortmund, Deutschland F +49 231 755-2047 _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 26-Apr-2001 13:09:24-GMT,3659;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA02402 for ; Thu, 26 Apr 2001 07:09:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 68B882AE93; Thu, 26 Apr 2001 15:10:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from life.ai.mit.edu (life.ai.mit.edu [128.52.32.80]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3QD9Pm04043 for ; Thu, 26 Apr 2001 15:09:25 +0200 Received: from MAURITIUS.YandY.com (maui [128.52.37.105]) by life.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/AI2.13/ai.master.life:2.21) with ESMTP id JAA01820; Thu, 26 Apr 2001 09:08:26 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.2.20010426064517.02e27d50@pop.tiac.net> X-Sender: yandy@pop.tiac.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 To: "Johannes Graumann" , pdftex@tug.org From: Y&Y Support Subject: Re: [pdftex] Umlaut hyphenation without T1 fontenc In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 06:57:01 -0400 At 01:46 AM 4/26/2001 +0000, Johannes Graumann wrote: >How can I get >\hyphenation{Schwer-be-sch\"a-dig-ten} (given the hyphenation is correct >;o) to work with pdftex without calling \usepackage[T1]{fontenc} (bad >resolution ...)? A truly frequent FAQ :-) You cannot succeed when using CM with OT1 encoding (the default) since that font encoding does not include any of the accented characters. Unfortunately the CM fonts have hard wired fixed encoding --- OT1 only. http://www.ams.org/tex/type1-fonts.html And when you switch to T1, LaTeX uses EC instead of CM, where EC is in bitmapped form. Which leads to ugly pictures in Acrobat Reader. So switch to any real text font which has the accented characters. Such as Times via \usepackage{times}. If you like the "CM look" but want real text fonts, consider EM http://www.yandy.com/em.htm You do not need to use T1 --- you can use LY1 or any other encoding that includes the accented characters. http://www.yandy.com/usely1.htm When you switch text fonts, you would also want to switch math fonts. For discussion of options see http://www.yandy.com/options.htm Other approaches include the AE or ZE packages. These will use CM, but construct accented characters via VF, Which solves the hyphenation problem but leaves you with PDF that cannot be searched for words with accented characters and that will not transfer correctly via "Cur and Paste" Regards, Louis. >Thanks for any hint, Johannes >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >_______________________________________________ >pdftex mailing list >pdftex@tug.org >http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex -- Y&Y, Inc. Support mailto:support@YandY.com http://www.YandY.com (MT) _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 26-Apr-2001 21:58:23-GMT,2785;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA11060 for ; Thu, 26 Apr 2001 15:58:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 8C2ED2B452; Thu, 26 Apr 2001 23:59:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from hal.kabsi.at (charme.kabsi.at [195.202.128.72]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3QLwjm06441 for ; Thu, 26 Apr 2001 23:58:46 +0200 Received: from gobin (cm.med.3284842061.kabelnet.net [195.202.182.77]) by hal.kabsi.at (8.10.2/) with SMTP id f3QLvab0001175336 for ; Thu, 26 Apr 2001 23:57:36 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <002501c0ce9c$222f0220$4db6cac3@kabsi.at> From: "Andreas Matthias" To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Subject: [pdftex] redundant objects with includegraphics Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 23:59:14 +0200 Including more than one pdf page with \includegraphics[page=1]{dummy.pdf} \includegraphics[page=2]{dummy.pdf} produces a lot of redundant information in the resulting pdf document. E.g. objects like the following exist for ever included page. 21 0 obj << /Ascent 694 /CapHeight 683 /Descent -194 /ItalicAngle 0 /StemV 69 /XHeight 431 /FontBBox [ -251 -250 1009 969] /Flags 4 /FontName 24 0 R /FontFile 15 0 R >> endobj Those objects are really identical! The file size increases dramatically. E.g. if including every page of one document of 10 pages (document A) into another (document B), the file size increases at about 80%. (This is getting even worse, if including more pages.) Document A: 10 pages, 19KB Document B: 10 pages, 33KB Tested with: pdfTeX, Version 3.14159-14h-pretest-20010210 (Web2c 7.3.3.1) Is it possible to change the include routine and to prohibit redundant objects in future pdftex versions? Best regards, Andreas _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 27-Apr-2001 9:45:53-GMT,2506;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA17530 for ; Fri, 27 Apr 2001 03:38:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 181202B44B; Fri, 27 Apr 2001 11:39:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from nina.cs.keele.ac.uk (newnina.cs.keele.ac.uk [160.5.89.78]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3R9cRm08899 for ; Fri, 27 Apr 2001 11:38:27 +0200 Received: from hepburn.cs.keele.ac.uk ([160.5.92.186] helo=ant-roy.co.uk) by nina_1 with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 14t4h3-0001op-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Fri, 27 Apr 2001 10:37:41 +0100 Message-ID: <3AE93DB2.1060700@ant-roy.co.uk> From: Anthony Roy Reply-To: work@ant-roy.co.uk User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; 0.8.1) Gecko/20010323 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [pdftex] PDFTeX, Metapost and Slideshows... Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 10:36:50 +0100 Hi all, I have been reliably informed that it is possible to create a slideshow (powerpoint style) that uses Metapost diagrams which can be incrementally built. I currently use PDFScreen style for slideshows, use the pause package to incrementally build slides, and then post process with pp4. How does one achieve the same incremental build with MetaPost? (Is it possible to include metapost figures in a PDFLaTeX document, as I believe they are imported as encapsulated PS?) Cheers, -- Anthony J. Roy Dept. of Computer Science, Keele University, ST5 5BG, UK. e-mail: work@ant-roy.co.uk web : http://www.ant-roy.co.uk/research/ Tel : +44 1782 583438 Fax : +44 1782 713082 _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 27-Apr-2001 11:09:23-GMT,2271;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA18055 for ; Fri, 27 Apr 2001 05:09:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 625532B450; Fri, 27 Apr 2001 13:10:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from clichy.dfki.uni-sb.de (clichy.dfki.uni-sb.de [134.96.187.26]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3RB90m09337 for ; Fri, 27 Apr 2001 13:09:00 +0200 Organization: DFKI Saarbruecken GmbH, D 66123 Saarbruecken Received: from dfki.de (limit [134.96.187.37]) by clichy.dfki.uni-sb.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA12593 for ; Fri, 27 Apr 2001 13:08:15 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <3AE95333.660BBBB6@dfki.de> From: Berthold Crysmann X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.7 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [pdftex] Searching for words with ligatures in AR Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 13:08:35 +0200 Hi all, I don't seem to be able to search for words which contain ligatures in AR, e.g. "flexcible" or "find". Is there a way to fix this? Likewise, cut&paste from AR gives funny results, basically deleting all ligatures. I am using the dvips/ps2pdf route, with T1 encoded fonts. Any hints are greatly appreciated. Thanks, Berthold -- Berthold Crysmann Deutsches Forschungszentrum Kuenstliche Intelligenz (DFKI) GmbH Stuhlsatzenhausweg 3 D-66123 Saarbruecken _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 27-Apr-2001 11:15:24-GMT,3583;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA18081 for ; Fri, 27 Apr 2001 05:15:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 1BF052B458; Fri, 27 Apr 2001 13:16:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mailserver3.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de (mailserver3.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de [130.83.126.47]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3RBFtm09425 for ; Fri, 27 Apr 2001 13:15:55 +0200 Received: from spelunke.iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de (spelunke.iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de [130.83.5.19]) by mailserver3.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA27897; Fri, 27 Apr 2001 13:15:09 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from sprudel.iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de (sprudel.iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de [130.83.5.40]) by spelunke.iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA16120; Fri, 27 Apr 2001 13:10:07 +0200 Received: (from gunterma@localhost) by sprudel.iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id NAA17115; Fri, 27 Apr 2001 13:10:07 +0200 (MET DST) From: Klaus Guntermann MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15081.21390.662520.611721@sprudel.iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de> To: work@ant-roy.co.uk Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] PDFTeX, Metapost and Slideshows... In-Reply-To: <3AE93DB2.1060700@ant-roy.co.uk> References: <3AE93DB2.1060700@ant-roy.co.uk> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 3) "Acadia" XEmacs Lucid Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 13:10:06 +0200 (MET DST) Anthony Roy writes: > I currently use PDFScreen style for slideshows, use the pause package > to incrementally build slides, and then post process with pp4. How > does one achieve the same incremental build with MetaPost? (Is it > possible to include metapost figures in a PDFLaTeX document, as I > believe they are imported as encapsulated PS?) I do not see a solution if you, as I guess from your mail user agent, work with Windows. We have prepared support for a Unix/Linux figure editing program named Xfig, to export layers of a figure as separate parts to MetaPost. With a macro you can afterwards import these layers, which actually are different files created by MetaPost. You can see an example at http://www-sp.iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de/software/xfig/ It would be possible to do the same also manually, if you are fluent writing MetaPost code. But you have to take care to make all parts the same size and not to trim the result to a smaller bounding box. Klaus -- Klaus Guntermann FG Systemprogrammierung, FB Informatik, TU Darmstadt Wilhelminenstr. 7, D-64283 Darmstadt _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 27-Apr-2001 12:54:27-GMT,3367;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA18700 for ; Fri, 27 Apr 2001 06:54:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 632852B454; Fri, 27 Apr 2001 14:55:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3RCsUm09937 for ; Fri, 27 Apr 2001 14:54:30 +0200 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA23756; Fri, 27 Apr 2001 14:53:46 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA25489; Fri, 27 Apr 2001 14:53:46 +0200 (MET DST) From: Han The Thanh To: Andreas Matthias Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] redundant objects with includegraphics Message-ID: <20010427145346.A24647@anxur.fi.muni.cz> References: <002501c0ce9c$222f0220$4db6cac3@kabsi.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <002501c0ce9c$222f0220$4db6cac3@kabsi.at>; from amat@kabsi.at on Thu, Apr 26, 2001 at 11:59:14PM +0200 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 14:53:46 +0200 On Thu, Apr 26, 2001 at 11:59:14PM +0200, Andreas Matthias wrote: > Including more than one pdf page with > > \includegraphics[page=1]{dummy.pdf} > \includegraphics[page=2]{dummy.pdf} > > produces a lot of redundant information in the > resulting pdf document. E.g. objects like the > following exist for ever included page. > > 21 0 obj > << > /Ascent 694 > /CapHeight 683 > /Descent -194 > /ItalicAngle 0 > /StemV 69 > /XHeight 431 > /FontBBox [ -251 -250 1009 969] > /Flags 4 > /FontName 24 0 R > /FontFile 15 0 R > >> > endobj > > Those objects are really identical! > > The file size increases dramatically. E.g. if including > every page of one document of 10 pages (document A) into > another (document B), the file size increases at about > 80%. (This is getting even worse, if including more pages.) > > Document A: 10 pages, 19KB > Document B: 10 pages, 33KB > > Tested with: > pdfTeX, Version 3.14159-14h-pretest-20010210 (Web2c 7.3.3.1) > > Is it possible to change the include routine and to > prohibit redundant objects in future pdftex versions? it is of course possible. The problem is that it is not trivial to do so. I did work hard to make pdftex check and remove duplicates of font files, and this seems to be a worse nightmare. Maybe some nice day when I have a real need of this feature. Regards, Thanh _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 27-Apr-2001 13:05:28-GMT,2901;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA18793 for ; Fri, 27 Apr 2001 07:05:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id B49B52B45C; Fri, 27 Apr 2001 15:06:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: from waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de (waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.4.42]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3RD5bm10043 for ; Fri, 27 Apr 2001 15:05:37 +0200 Received: from ls1sol02.cs.uni-dortmund.de (ls1sol02.cs.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.56.62]) by waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de with ESMTP id PAA02843 for ; Fri, 27 Apr 2001 15:04:53 +0200 (MES) Message-Id: <200104271304.PAA11655@ls1sol02.cs.uni-dortmund.de> Received: from ls1sol02 (ls1sol02 [129.217.56.62]) by ls1sol02.cs.uni-dortmund.de id PAA11655; Fri, 27 Apr 2001 15:04:52 +0200 (MET DST) From: Stephan Lehmke Reply-To: Stephan Lehmke Subject: Re: [pdftex] redundant objects with includegraphics To: pdftex@tug.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: okh287XakYauiOwAvhz3gA== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.2.1 CDE Version 1.2.1 SunOS 5.6 sun4u sparc Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 15:04:52 +0200 (MET DST) Han The Thanh wrote on Fri, 27 Apr 2001 14:53:46 +0200: > On Thu, Apr 26, 2001 at 11:59:14PM +0200, Andreas Matthias wrote: > > > > Is it possible to change the include routine and to > > prohibit redundant objects in future pdftex versions? > > it is of course possible. The problem is that it is not trivial to do so. > I did work hard to make pdftex check and remove duplicates of font files, > and this seems to be a worse nightmare. Maybe some nice day when I have a > real need of this feature. This would be much appreaciated indeed. Making proceedings/books from contributed pdfs and adding decoration with pdfpages is becoming increasingly popular. regards Stephan -- Stephan Lehmke Stephan.Lehmke@cs.uni-dortmund.de Fachbereich Informatik, LS I Tel. +49 231 755 6434 Universitaet Dortmund FAX 6555 D-44221 Dortmund, Germany _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 27-Apr-2001 13:54:22-GMT,2529;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA19252 for ; Fri, 27 Apr 2001 07:54:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 4EAF42AE8C; Fri, 27 Apr 2001 15:55:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from notesmail.cs.odu.edu (notesmail.cs.odu.edu [128.82.4.18]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3RDsqm10314 for ; Fri, 27 Apr 2001 15:54:52 +0200 Reply-To: zeil@cs.odu.edu Subject: Re: [pdftex] PDFTeX, Metapost and Slideshows... To: pdftex@tug.org Cc: work@ant-roy.co.uk, X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.2b December 16, 1999 Message-ID: From: szeil@notesmail.cs.odu.edu X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on lotus/ODUCS(Release 5.0.7 |March 21, 2001) at 04/27/2001 09:54:05 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 09:54:03 -0400 On 04/27/2001 07:10:06 AM, Klaus Guntermann wrote: >I do not see a solution if you, as I guess from your mail user agent, >work with Windows. >We have prepared support for a Unix/Linux figure editing program named >Xfig, to export layers of a figure as separate parts to MetaPost. >With a macro you can afterwards import these layers, which actually >are different files created by MetaPost. >You can see an example at > http://www-sp.iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de/software/xfig/ > How much of the magic is really done in xfig and how much in transfig? transfig can be compiled for Windows and there is a very nice xfig clone done in Java, jfig at http://tech-www.informatik.uni-hamburg.de/applets/javafig/, which runs just fine under Windows. Steve Z _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 27-Apr-2001 17:40:24-GMT,3020;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA22418 for ; Fri, 27 Apr 2001 11:40:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id A2D222AE8C; Fri, 27 Apr 2001 19:41:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de (zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.53]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3RHeWm11516 for ; Fri, 27 Apr 2001 19:40:32 +0200 Received: from zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de.kammer.uni-hannover.de (reinhard@zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.54]) by zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA24208; Fri, 27 Apr 2001 19:37:03 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de: Host reinhard@zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.54] claimed to be zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de.kammer.uni-hannover.de From: Reinhard Kotucha MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15081.44743.595141.219258@zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de> To: zeil@cs.odu.edu Cc: pdftex@tug.org, work@ant-roy.co.uk, Subject: Re: [pdftex] PDFTeX, Metapost and Slideshows... In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under Emacs 20.7.2 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 19:39:19 +0200 >>>>> "szeil" == szeil writes: > How much of the magic is really done in xfig and how much in > transfig? transfig can be compiled for Windows and there is a xfig is the editor. It produces a simple ASCII file. transfig converts this file to the output format you want. Reinhard -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Reinhard Kotucha Phone: +49-511-751355 Berggartenstr. 9 D-30419 Hannover mailto:reinhard@kammer.uni-hannover.de ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Microsoft isn't the answer. Microsoft is the question, and the answer is NO. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 27-Apr-2001 20:01:23-GMT,1798;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA24372 for ; Fri, 27 Apr 2001 14:01:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 590832AE8B; Fri, 27 Apr 2001 22:02:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from eis-msg-012.jpl.nasa.gov (eis-msg-012.jpl.nasa.gov [137.78.160.40]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3RK1Ym12258 for ; Fri, 27 Apr 2001 22:01:35 +0200 Received: from [137.78.78.153] (goodson-1.jpl.nasa.gov [137.78.78.153]) by eis-msg-012.jpl.nasa.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA04950 for ; Fri, 27 Apr 2001 13:00:50 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: tgoodson@pop.jpl.nasa.gov Message-Id: To: pdftex@tug.org From: Troy Goodson Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Subject: [pdftex] why no spaces in filenames? Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 13:00:45 -0700 why doesn't pdflatex "my file.tex" work? isn't that a bug? Troy. _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 27-Apr-2001 21:08:27-GMT,2529;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA25319 for ; Fri, 27 Apr 2001 15:08:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 8F9182AE8B; Fri, 27 Apr 2001 23:09:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from hal.kabsi.at (strange.kabsi.at [195.202.128.71]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3RL89m12564 for ; Fri, 27 Apr 2001 23:08:09 +0200 Received: from gobin (cm.med.3284842061.kabelnet.net [195.202.182.77]) by hal.kabsi.at (8.10.2/) with SMTP id f3RL7780000548488; Fri, 27 Apr 2001 23:07:07 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <003301c0cf5e$35c12620$4db6cac3@kabsi.at> From: "Andreas Matthias" To: "Han The Thanh" Cc: References: <002501c0ce9c$222f0220$4db6cac3@kabsi.at> <20010427145346.A24647@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Subject: Re: [pdftex] redundant objects with includegraphics MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 23:08:28 +0200 > > Is it possible to change the include routine and to > > prohibit redundant objects in future pdftex versions? > > it is of course possible. The problem is that it is not trivial to do so. > I did work hard to make pdftex check and remove duplicates of font files, > and this seems to be a worse nightmare. Maybe some nice day when I have a > real need of this feature. In comp.text.pdf there are quite often questions about how to create pdf documents in 2up and 4up mode. If redundant objects could be reduced, pdftex would be the answer. Greetings, Andreas _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 27-Apr-2001 22:02:23-GMT,2146;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA26276 for ; Fri, 27 Apr 2001 16:02:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 8DC052AE82; Sat, 28 Apr 2001 00:03:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mta06-svc.ntlworld.com (mta06-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.46]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3RM27m12813 for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2001 00:02:07 +0200 Received: from spqr-tosh ([62.254.130.52]) by mta06-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with ESMTP id <20010427220123.ELMJ285.mta06-svc.ntlworld.com@spqr-tosh>; Fri, 27 Apr 2001 23:01:23 +0100 X-Mailer: emacs 20.7.2 (via feedmail 8 I); VM 6.92 under Emacs 20.7.2 From: "Sebastian Rahtz" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15081.64063.748824.664560@gargle.gargle.HOWL> To: Troy.D.Goodson@jpl.nasa.gov Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] why no spaces in filenames? In-Reply-To: References: Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 00:01:19 +0100 Troy Goodson writes: > why doesn't > > pdflatex "my file.tex" > > work? isn't that a bug? more a feature, or perhaps a fact of life. sebastian _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 28-Apr-2001 0:22:23-GMT,2362;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA27381 for ; Fri, 27 Apr 2001 18:22:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id E89932AE82; Sat, 28 Apr 2001 02:23:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu (ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu [152.17.150.2]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3S0MJm13356 for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2001 02:22:19 +0200 Received: from localhost (cottrell@localhost) by ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu (8.11.2/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3S0Kta17359 for ; Fri, 27 Apr 2001 20:20:55 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu: cottrell owned process doing -bs From: Allin Cottrell X-X-Sender: To: Subject: Re: [pdftex] why no spaces in filenames? In-Reply-To: <15081.64063.748824.664560@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 20:20:55 -0400 (EDT) On Sat, 28 Apr 2001, Sebastian Rahtz wrote: > Troy Goodson writes: > > why doesn't > > > > pdflatex "my file.tex" > > > > work? isn't that a bug? > > more a feature, or perhaps a fact of life. Quite. The unthinking arrogance of Windoze users who (with presumably no awareness of what they're saying) say, "Come on you programmers, can't you put in the extra hours needed to support the conceit of filenames with embedded spaces, which my OS vendor has led me to believe is standard practice?". Allin Cottrell. _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 28-Apr-2001 0:37:22-GMT,3253;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA27471 for ; Fri, 27 Apr 2001 18:37:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 49D4A2B44B; Sat, 28 Apr 2001 02:38:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de (zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.53]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3S0bJm13472 for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2001 02:37:19 +0200 Received: from zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de.kammer.uni-hannover.de (reinhard@zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.54]) by zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id CAA26214; Sat, 28 Apr 2001 02:34:17 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de: Host reinhard@zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.54] claimed to be zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de.kammer.uni-hannover.de From: Reinhard Kotucha MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15082.4242.392204.981335@zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de> To: "Andreas Matthias" Cc: "Han The Thanh" , Subject: Re: [pdftex] redundant objects with includegraphics In-Reply-To: <003301c0cf5e$35c12620$4db6cac3@kabsi.at> References: <002501c0ce9c$222f0220$4db6cac3@kabsi.at> <20010427145346.A24647@anxur.fi.muni.cz> <003301c0cf5e$35c12620$4db6cac3@kabsi.at> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under Emacs 20.7.2 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 02:36:34 +0200 >>>>> "Andreas" == Andreas Matthias writes: > In comp.text.pdf there are quite often questions about how to > create pdf documents in 2up and 4up mode. If redundant objects > could be reduced, pdftex would be the answer. pdftex is the answer, anyway. But as far as optimization is concerned, I think that a post processor could do a better job. The reason is that TeX cannot look ahead. What we need is someone who has some experience and a lot of time. Reinhard -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Reinhard Kotucha Phone: +49-511-751355 Berggartenstr. 9 D-30419 Hannover mailto:reinhard@kammer.uni-hannover.de ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Microsoft isn't the answer. Microsoft is the question, and the answer is NO. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 28-Apr-2001 8:31:23-GMT,3242;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA00327 for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2001 02:31:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 3E7302B44B; Sat, 28 Apr 2001 10:32:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk (toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk [163.1.20.20]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3S8V6m15138 for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2001 10:31:06 +0200 Received: from max145.public.ox.ac.uk (max145.public.ox.ac.uk [192.76.27.145]) by toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id JAA10867; Sat, 28 Apr 2001 09:30:18 +0100 (BST) From: Prof Brian D Ripley To: Cc: , , Subject: Re: [pdftex] PDFTeX, Metapost and Slideshows... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 09:31:35 +0100 (BST) On Fri, 27 Apr 2001 szeil@notesmail.cs.odu.edu wrote: > On 04/27/2001 07:10:06 AM, Klaus Guntermann > wrote: > > > >I do not see a solution if you, as I guess from your mail user agent, > >work with Windows. > >We have prepared support for a Unix/Linux figure editing program named > >Xfig, to export layers of a figure as separate parts to MetaPost. > >With a macro you can afterwards import these layers, which actually > >are different files created by MetaPost. > >You can see an example at > > http://www-sp.iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de/software/xfig/ > > > > How much of the magic is really done in xfig and how much in transfig? > transfig can be compiled for Windows and there is a very nice xfig clone > done in Java, jfig at > http://tech-www.informatik.uni-hamburg.de/applets/javafig/, which runs > just fine under Windows. You can run Xfig itself under Windows too if you have an X server: ftp.franken.de:/pub/win32/develop/gnuwin32/cygwin/porters/Humblet_Pierre_A/B20 as xfig-3.2.2-cygwin-b20.1-bin.tar.gz, was one source. -- Brian D. Ripley, ripley@stats.ox.ac.uk Professor of Applied Statistics, http://www.stats.ox.ac.uk/~ripley/ University of Oxford, Tel: +44 1865 272861 (self) 1 South Parks Road, +44 1865 272860 (secr) Oxford OX1 3TG, UK Fax: +44 1865 272595 _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 28-Apr-2001 10:11:23-GMT,2404;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA00691 for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2001 04:11:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 7BCC22B457; Sat, 28 Apr 2001 12:12:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from wisbech.cl.cam.ac.uk (mta1.cl.cam.ac.uk [128.232.0.15]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3SABVm15579 for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2001 12:11:31 +0200 Received: from pallas.cl.cam.ac.uk ([128.232.8.88] helo=cl.cam.ac.uk ident=rf) by wisbech.cl.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.092 #1) id 14tRgd-0001JH-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Sat, 28 Apr 2001 11:10:47 +0100 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] PDFTeX, Metapost and Slideshows... In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 27 Apr 2001 19:39:19 +0200." <15081.44743.595141.219258@zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de> From: Robin Fairbairns Message-Id: Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 11:10:47 +0100 > >>>>> "szeil" == szeil writes: > > > > How much of the magic is really done in xfig and how much in > > transfig? transfig can be compiled for Windows and there is a > > xfig is the editor. It produces a simple ASCII file. transfig > converts this file to the output format you want. true. however, some recent instances of xfig have _required_ an upgrade of transfig because they're talking a different language. it's not clear to me whether transfig instances are typically backward compatible: if not, there could be problems with transfig vs. the java version of xfig that's been mentioned. _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 28-Apr-2001 10:15:22-GMT,2239;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA00702 for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2001 04:15:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id E1E0A2B450; Sat, 28 Apr 2001 12:16:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from wisbech.cl.cam.ac.uk (mta1.cl.cam.ac.uk [128.232.0.15]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3SAFtm15652 for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2001 12:15:56 +0200 Received: from pallas.cl.cam.ac.uk ([128.232.8.88] helo=cl.cam.ac.uk ident=rf) by wisbech.cl.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.092 #1) id 14tRks-0001Kq-00; Sat, 28 Apr 2001 11:15:10 +0100 To: Troy Goodson Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] why no spaces in filenames? In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 27 Apr 2001 13:00:45 PDT." From: Robin Fairbairns Message-Id: Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 11:15:10 +0100 > why doesn't > > pdflatex "my file.tex" > > work? isn't that a bug? tex doesn't do spaces in file names (the syntax it was designed to implement can't cope with them). pdftex doesn't change that part of the syntax, it appears (vtex and iirc y&y tex do). tex doesn't have (design) bugs[*], it has features. so no, this isn't a bug: it's a feature. anyway, spaces in filenames are the spawn of the devil :+} [*] there are _still_ (very) occasional implementation bugs. _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 28-Apr-2001 15:08:22-GMT,2444;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA02008 for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2001 09:08:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 43AC12AE8B; Sat, 28 Apr 2001 17:09:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from da401.ifa.au.dk (da401.ifa.au.dk [130.225.28.67]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3SF8Qm16626 for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2001 17:08:26 +0200 Received: from aauobs.ifa.au.dk (jcd@aauobs.ifa.au.dk [10.12.1.47]) by da401.ifa.au.dk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA20631 for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2001 17:07:42 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from jcd@localhost) by aauobs.ifa.au.dk (8.8.6 (PHNE_12836)/8.8.6) id RAA05439 for pdftex@tug.org; Sat, 28 Apr 2001 17:07:42 +0200 (METDST) From: "J. Christensen-Dalsgaard" Message-Id: <200104281507.RAA05439@aauobs.ifa.au.dk> To: pdftex@tug.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=X-roman8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [pdftex] (no subject) Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 17:07:42 +0200 (METDST) I am trying to use pdflatex to produce a pdf file based on transparencies originally produced with LaTeX and dvips, and set in landscape. This could be accomplished by means of the \special{landscape} which is passed to dvips and produces the desired result, when combined with an appropriate setting of page height and width. However, this is evidently not recognized by pdflatex. I have tried to set \textwidth and \pdfpagewidth, etc., but with no success. Is there a feature in pdflatex that allows landscape output? Joergen Christensen-Dalsgaard Inst. of Physics and Astronomy, University of Aarhus, Denmark _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 28-Apr-2001 16:59:22-GMT,2367;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA02617 for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2001 10:59:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id DD9622AE8B; Sat, 28 Apr 2001 19:00:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f3SGxfm17058 for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2001 18:59:42 +0200 Received: from sun2.ruf.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.2] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with esmtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 14tY3Z-0007Hf-00; Sat, 28 Apr 2001 18:58:53 +0200 From: Heiko Oberdiek To: "J. Christensen-Dalsgaard" Cc: Subject: Re: [pdftex] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <200104281507.RAA05439@aauobs.ifa.au.dk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 18:58:54 +0200 (MET DST) On Sat, 28 Apr 2001, J. Christensen-Dalsgaard wrote: > I am trying to use pdflatex to produce a pdf file based on transparencies > originally produced with LaTeX and dvips, and set in landscape. This > could be accomplished by means of the > > \special{landscape} > > However, this is evidently not recognized by pdflatex. I have tried > to set \textwidth and \pdfpagewidth, etc., but with no success. Is there > a feature in pdflatex that allows landscape output? Landscape is supported by package "pdflscape", available on CTAN. Yours sincerely Heiko _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 28-Apr-2001 17:16:21-GMT,2238;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA02727 for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2001 11:16:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id E99252B450; Sat, 28 Apr 2001 19:17:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mta02-svc.ntlworld.com (mta02-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.42]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3SHGJm17205 for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2001 19:16:19 +0200 Received: from spqr-tosh ([62.254.130.52]) by mta02-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with ESMTP id <20010428171534.HTED290.mta02-svc.ntlworld.com@spqr-tosh>; Sat, 28 Apr 2001 18:15:34 +0100 X-Mailer: emacs 20.7.2 (via feedmail 8 I); VM 6.92 under Emacs 20.7.2 From: "Sebastian Rahtz" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15082.64180.340769.801021@gargle.gargle.HOWL> To: jcd@ifa.au.dk Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <200104281507.RAA05439@aauobs.ifa.au.dk> References: <200104281507.RAA05439@aauobs.ifa.au.dk> Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 18:15:32 +0100 > However, this is evidently not recognized by pdflatex. I have tried > to set \textwidth and \pdfpagewidth, etc., but with no success. Is there > a feature in pdflatex that allows landscape output? > yes, just set \pdfpagewidth and \pdfpageheight as needed sebastian _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 28-Apr-2001 20:10:22-GMT,2306;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA03981 for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2001 14:10:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 5284E2B456; Sat, 28 Apr 2001 22:11:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mx03.nexgo.de (mx03.nexgo.de [151.189.8.98]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3SKAWm17860 for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2001 22:10:32 +0200 Received: from Earth.UFP.org (dredi7-212-144-252-108.arcor-ip.net [212.144.252.108]) by mx03.nexgo.de (Postfix) with SMTP id 63CA718142 for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2001 22:09:49 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 24813 invoked by uid 500); 28 Apr 2001 20:11:41 -0000 Message-ID: <20010428201141.24812.qmail@gmx.net> From: "Carsten Schurig" X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on Linux X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.daimi.au.dk id f3SKAWm17860 Subject: [pdftex] char protruding Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 22:11:41 +0200 (CEST) Hi, I've got a new "problem" concerning the char protruding feature. I'm using SIunits.sty and there is at one point an 180° at the end of the line. And I think the degree should poke into the margin. But I don't know how to get this -- even worse: is it possible to make an automated protruding for such a construct? The degree of SIunits is defined as follows: \ensuremath{^{\circ}} Thanks, Carsten _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 28-Apr-2001 21:18:21-GMT,3594;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA04348 for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2001 15:18:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id CF8FC2B456; Sat, 28 Apr 2001 23:19:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from nika.frontier.iarc.uaf.edu (nika.frontier.iarc.uaf.edu [137.229.94.16]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3SLImm18133 for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2001 23:18:48 +0200 Received: by nika.frontier.iarc.uaf.edu (Postfix, from userid 1112) id 64781140C0; Sat, 28 Apr 2001 13:20:24 -0800 (AKDT) To: pdftex@tug.org Message-ID: <20010428132024.A9312@iarc.uaf.edu> Mail-Followup-To: cswingle@iarc.uaf.edu, pdftex@tug.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i From: cswingle@iarc.uaf.edu (Christopher S. Swingley) Subject: [pdftex] Metapost and PDF files Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 13:20:24 -0800 Hi! I'm having a devil of a time trying to figure out how to use Metapost in combination with PDFTeX and Ghostscript. I believe the problem is that I want to use the Computer Modern fonts in my figures, but the only program that seems to understand how to deal with these fonts is dvips. I can put 'prologues:=1;' at the top of my *.mp file, but then I get fonts that won't match the rest of my document. What I'm trying to accomplish is the creation of figures with Metapost that I can use in LaTeX or TeX files, for the generation of PostScript and PDF files. Right now the only thing I can get to work is to include the figures in a TeX document, run it, then turn it into PostScript using dvips. But I can't get a PDF file using any method beyond ps2pdf (which is a raster version of the PostScript file and doesn't look very good). xdvi also displays a poor quality version of the figures when I preview the dvi file. I've loaded the Computer Modern fonts into ghostscript so it can read them by doing: gs prfont.ps, and then typing GS> /cmr10 DoFont, but Ghostscript doesn't seem to know what to make of the fonts in the Metapost figure files (gs: Error: /undefined in cmr10, gs: Operand stack: (1)). If it matters, I'm using a Debian (sid / woody) Linux distribution. Versions: mpost --version = MetaPost (Web2C 7.3.1) 0.641, kpathsea version 3.3.1 pdftex --version = pdfTeX (Web2C 7.3.1) 3.14159-0.14f-released-20000525 tex --version = TeX (Web2C 7.3.1) 3.14159 gs --version = 5.10 Any thoughts? Thanks a lot! Chris -- Christopher S. Swingley 930 Koyukuk Drive System / Network Manager University of Alaska Fairbanks IARC -- Frontier Program Fairbanks, AK 99775 phone: 907-474-2689 fax: 907-474-2643 email: cswingle@iarc.uaf.edu GNUPG and PGP2 keys at my web site web: http://www.frontier.iarc.uaf.edu/~cswingle _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 28-Apr-2001 22:35:23-GMT,4412;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA04773 for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2001 16:35:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id BADBF2B45A; Sun, 29 Apr 2001 00:36:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de (zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.53]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3SMZjm18454 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2001 00:35:45 +0200 Received: from zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de.kammer.uni-hannover.de (reinhard@zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.54]) by zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA32525; Sun, 29 Apr 2001 00:32:41 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de: Host reinhard@zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.54] claimed to be zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de.kammer.uni-hannover.de From: Reinhard Kotucha MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15083.17811.553872.771140@zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de> To: cswingle@iarc.uaf.edu (Christopher S. Swingley) Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: [pdftex] Metapost and PDF files In-Reply-To: <20010428132024.A9312@iarc.uaf.edu> References: <20010428132024.A9312@iarc.uaf.edu> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under Emacs 20.7.2 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 00:34:59 +0200 >>>>> "Christopher" == Christopher S Swingley writes: > Hi! I'm having a devil of a time trying to figure out how to > use Metapost in combination with PDFTeX and Ghostscript. I > believe the problem is that I want to use the Computer Modern > fonts in my figures, but the only program that seems to > understand how to deal with these fonts is dvips. I can put > 'prologues:=1;' at the top of my *.mp file, but then I get fonts prologues:=1 is for troff, you need prologues:=2. > [...] > I've loaded the Computer Modern fonts into ghostscript so it can > read them by doing: gs prfont.ps, and then typing GS> /cmr10 > DoFont, but Ghostscript doesn't seem to know what to make of the > fonts in the Metapost figure files (gs: Error: /undefined in > cmr10, gs: Operand stack: (1)). The Type1 Computer Modern fonts provided by Y&Y use capital letters for font names. If you look into the file cmr10.pfb you'll find a line /FontName /CMR10 def This is your problem. The metapost output file file contains a line /cmr10 /cmr10 def You could change it to /cmr10 /CMR10 def But this is not very convenient. I recently wrote a Perl script that scans teTeX's truetype and type1 directories and creates a Fontmap file for ghostscript. It adds aliases for the Y&Y cm fonts and for the URW lw35 fonts. It requires t1ascii and t1binary (from the t1utils) and ttf2afm. The program assumes that ghostscript doesn't need any font that is not made available to TeX. If you are interested, I'll send you the program by private email. After some cleanup I'll make it available to the public, anyway. BTW., I would like to support Type42 as well, but I've never seen such a beast. Could anyone enlighten me? Regards, Reinhard -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Reinhard Kotucha Phone: +49-511-751355 Berggartenstr. 9 D-30419 Hannover mailto:reinhard@kammer.uni-hannover.de ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Microsoft isn't the answer. Microsoft is the question, and the answer is NO. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 28-Apr-2001 23:16:21-GMT,2776;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA05031 for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2001 17:16:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 23A7E2B45E; Sun, 29 Apr 2001 01:17:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from nika.frontier.iarc.uaf.edu (nika.frontier.iarc.uaf.edu [137.229.94.16]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3SNGYm18668 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2001 01:16:34 +0200 Received: by nika.frontier.iarc.uaf.edu (Postfix, from userid 1112) id B46F9140C0; Sat, 28 Apr 2001 15:18:10 -0800 (AKDT) From: "Christopher S. Swingley" To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] Metapost and PDF files Message-ID: <20010428151810.B9615@iarc.uaf.edu> Mail-Followup-To: "Christopher S. Swingley" , pdftex@tug.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 15:18:10 -0800 Reinhard, > prologues:=1 is for troff, you need prologues:=2. Ahh. Now everything works much better. > The Type1 Computer Modern fonts provided by Y&Y use capital letters > for font names. If you look into the file cmr10.pfb you'll find a > line > > /FontName /CMR10 def I noticed this, so I included an uppercase and lowercase version of all the CM fonts in the GS Fontmap file. That, in combination with the prologues:=2 seems to make everything work. dvips complains (it says the font used in the file isn't in the mapping file) when I produce a PS file from the DVI file, but it still seems to produce good output. What is the magical "prologues:=2;" doing? Thank you very much! Chris -- Christopher S. Swingley 930 Koyukuk Drive System / Network Manager University of Alaska Fairbanks IARC -- Frontier Program Fairbanks, AK 99775 phone: 907-474-2689 fax: 907-474-2643 email: cswingle@iarc.uaf.edu GNUPG and PGP2 keys at my web site web: http://www.frontier.iarc.uaf.edu/~cswingle _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 29-Apr-2001 13:36:23-GMT,2223;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA09180 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2001 07:36:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id C336B2B45C; Sun, 29 Apr 2001 15:37:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from salmon.maths.tcd.ie (salmon.maths.tcd.ie [134.226.81.11]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f3TDawm26750 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2001 15:36:58 +0200 Received: from boole.maths.tcd.ie by salmon.maths.tcd.ie with SMTP id ; 29 Apr 2001 14:36:13 +0100 (BST) From: Timothy Murphy To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] Metapost and PDF files Message-ID: <20010429143612.A11292@boole.maths.tcd.ie> References: <20010428151810.B9615@iarc.uaf.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010428151810.B9615@iarc.uaf.edu>; from cswingle@iarc.uaf.edu on Sat, Apr 28, 2001 at 03:18:10PM -0800 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 14:36:13 +0100 On Sat, Apr 28, 2001 at 03:18:10PM -0800, Christopher S. Swingley wrote: > > prologues:=1 is for troff, you need prologues:=2. > What is the magical "prologues:=2;" doing? I wonder if anyone has ever used MetaPost with troff? I read that the last troff-user died 7 years ago, aged 101. -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: tim@maths.tcd.ie tel: 086-233 6090 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 29-Apr-2001 22:12:22-GMT,1869;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA11817 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2001 16:12:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id BC92C2B45C; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 00:13:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from VL-MS-MR002.sc1.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3TMC4m28492 for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 00:12:05 +0200 Received: from videotron.ca ([24.202.92.42]) by VL-MS-MR002.sc1.videotron.ca (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GCKQYV00.6A5 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2001 18:11:19 -0400 Message-ID: <3AEC918F.649EA803@videotron.ca> From: Marc Bourdeau Reply-To: bourdeau@dms.umontreal.ca Organization: http://www.magi.polymtl.ca/bourdeau X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@mail.tug.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [pdftex] subscribe pdftex Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 18:11:27 -0400 _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 30-Apr-2001 7:08:22-GMT,3528;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA15657 for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 01:08:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 68ADB2AE82; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 09:09:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mailserver2.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de (mailserver2.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de [130.83.22.129]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3U78Im30449 for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 09:08:18 +0200 Received: from spelunke.iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de (spelunke.iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de [130.83.5.19]) by mailserver2.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA06362; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 08:59:14 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from sprudel.iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de (sprudel.iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de [130.83.5.40]) by spelunke.iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA15936; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 08:58:58 +0200 Received: (from gunterma@localhost) by sprudel.iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id IAA19218; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 08:58:56 +0200 (MET DST) From: Klaus Guntermann MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15085.3376.106602.422928@sprudel.iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de> To: zeil@cs.odu.edu Cc: pdftex@tug.org, work@ant-roy.co.uk Subject: Re: [pdftex] PDFTeX, Metapost and Slideshows... In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 3) "Acadia" XEmacs Lucid Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 08:58:56 +0200 (MET DST) szeil@notesmail.cs.odu.edu writes: > How much of the magic is really done in xfig and how much in transfig? You are right, the real task of splitting into the layers is done in transfig, as you can guess from the patch sizes. > transfig can be compiled for Windows and there is a very nice xfig clone Has anyone tried to apply our patches to create an extended windows version of transfig? > done in Java, jfig at > http://tech-www.informatik.uni-hamburg.de/applets/javafig/, which runs > just fine under Windows. This looks promising. I did not find LaTeX font support. And I would like to find the Xfig depth manager which allows me to go through the layers, which make animation steps later. Looks like a lot of good work, though. But I wonder how they plan to handle the shareware fees, given the fact that university resources are used for distribution. Regards, Klaus -- Klaus Guntermann FG Systemprogrammierung, FB Informatik, TU Darmstadt Wilhelminenstr. 7, D-64283 Darmstadt _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 30-Apr-2001 9:38:21-GMT,2736;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA16316 for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 03:38:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id EF3D82AE8B; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 11:39:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3U9cRm31014 for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 11:38:27 +0200 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA29302; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 11:37:42 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA22736; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 11:37:41 +0200 (MET DST) From: Han The Thanh To: Carsten Schurig Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] char protruding Message-ID: <20010430113740.B21837@anxur.fi.muni.cz> References: <20010428201141.24812.qmail@gmx.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20010428201141.24812.qmail@gmx.net>; from Carsten.Schurig@gmx.net on Sat, Apr 28, 2001 at 10:11:41PM +0200 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 11:37:41 +0200 > I've got a new "problem" concerning the char protruding feature. > I'm using SIunits.sty and there is at one point an 180° at the end > of the line. And I think the degree should poke into the margin. > > But I don't know how to get this -- even worse: is it possible to > make an automated protruding for such a construct? The degree of > SIunits is defined as follows: > \ensuremath{^{\circ}} probably the easiest way is to append a `null' character after such constructions. Such a character should have zero width/height/depth, but non-zero character protruding factor (best available in some virtual font). I has similar applications of character protruding. Thanh _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 30-Apr-2001 9:51:22-GMT,2326;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA16372 for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 03:51:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id CC68C2B454; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 11:52:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from zambeze.ujf-grenoble.fr (zambeze.ujf-grenoble.fr [152.77.2.3]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3U9p7m31130 for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 11:51:07 +0200 Received: from mozart.ujf-grenoble.Fr (mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.241.5]) by zambeze.ujf-grenoble.fr (Pro-8.9.3/8.9.3/Configured by AD & JE 25/10/1999) with ESMTP id LAA25832; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 11:50:20 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from bouche@localhost) by mozart.ujf-grenoble.Fr (8.9.3/8.8.5) id LAA15288; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 11:50:04 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <200104300950.LAA15288@mozart.ujf-grenoble.Fr> From: Thierry Bouche To: Han The Thanh Cc: Carsten Schurig , pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] char protruding In-Reply-To: <20010430113740.B21837@anxur.fi.muni.cz> References: <20010428201141.24812.qmail@gmx.net> <20010430113740.B21837@anxur.fi.muni.cz> X-Mailer: VM 6.22 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 11:50:04 +0200 (MET DST) » probably the easiest way is to append a `null' character maybe, but the best way would be use an actual degree character (like \textdegree]) Th. _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 30-Apr-2001 9:59:22-GMT,2385;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA16426 for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 03:59:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 3E70D2B45A; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 12:00:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3U9x1m31213 for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 11:59:01 +0200 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA02355; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 11:58:16 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA24599; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 11:58:15 +0200 (MET DST) From: Han The Thanh To: Thierry Bouche Cc: Han The Thanh , Carsten Schurig , pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] char protruding Message-ID: <20010430115815.E21837@anxur.fi.muni.cz> References: <20010428201141.24812.qmail@gmx.net> <20010430113740.B21837@anxur.fi.muni.cz> <200104300950.LAA15288@mozart.ujf-grenoble.Fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <200104300950.LAA15288@mozart.ujf-grenoble.Fr>; from Thierry.Bouche@ujf-grenoble.fr on Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 11:50:04AM +0200 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 11:58:15 +0200 > maybe, but the best way would be use an actual degree character (like > \textdegree]) yes, sure, given that such a character is available in the font. Thanh _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 30-Apr-2001 12:13:22-GMT,2817;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA17142 for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 06:13:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 95BF82AE82; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 14:14:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from POP3.tu-dresden.de (pop3.tu-dresden.de [141.30.66.133]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f3UCDVm31891 for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 14:13:31 +0200 Received: from rmail.urz.tu-dresden.de by rkstest with SMTP (PP); Mon, 30 Apr 2001 14:10:48 +0200 Received: from physik.phy.tu-dresden.de by rmail with SMTP (IC-PP); Mon, 30 Apr 2001 14:05:50 +0200 Received: from pomp47.phy.tu-dresden.de by physik.phy.tu-dresden.de (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA28495; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 14:12:04 +0200 Message-Id: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.7 on Linux X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20010430115815.E21837@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Organization: IOMP / TU Dresden From: Carsten Schurig To: Han The Thanh Subject: Re: [pdftex] char protruding Cc: pdftex@tug.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.daimi.au.dk id f3UCDVm31891 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 14:12:04 +0200 (CEST) On 30-Apr-2001 Han The Thanh wrote: > yes, sure, given that such a character is available in the font OK, that's no problem. \textdegree is available when using pxfonts and textcomp and it's simple to use \textdegree instead of ^{\circ} in SIunits. But my problem is, how to get the char protruding for \textdegree! \rpcode\font 176=200 (or so) is not good, because it would lead to a protruding of char 176 in normal T1 encoded Font (as far as I understand). Generally that's no great problem for me, because I don't use char 176 of T1 in German, but it's a bit dissatisfying. So how can I define char protruding for char 176 out of TS1 (I've got no idea)? Carsten _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 30-Apr-2001 12:18:22-GMT,3082;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA17174 for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 06:18:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 30B3A2B452; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 14:19:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from tibre.ujf-grenoble.fr (tibre.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.238.31]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3UCIEm31970 for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 14:18:15 +0200 Received: from mozart.ujf-grenoble.Fr (mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.241.5]) by tibre.ujf-grenoble.fr (Pro-8.9.3/8.9.3/Configured by AD & JE 25/10/1999) with ESMTP id OAA13136; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 14:17:16 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from bouche@localhost) by mozart.ujf-grenoble.Fr (8.9.3/8.8.5) id OAA19192; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 14:17:01 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <200104301217.OAA19192@mozart.ujf-grenoble.Fr> From: Thierry Bouche To: Carsten Schurig Cc: Han The Thanh , pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] char protruding In-Reply-To: References: <20010430115815.E21837@anxur.fi.muni.cz> X-Mailer: VM 6.22 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 14:17:01 +0200 (MET DST) Concernant « Re: [pdftex] char protruding », Carsten Schurig écrit : « » » On 30-Apr-2001 Han The Thanh wrote: » > yes, sure, given that such a character is available in the font » » OK, that's no problem. \textdegree is available when using pxfonts » and textcomp and it's simple to use \textdegree instead of ^{\circ} » in SIunits. But my problem is, how to get the char protruding for » \textdegree! \rpcode\font 176=200 (or so) is not good, because it » would lead to a protruding of char 176 in normal T1 encoded Font no, you have anyway to set the protcode for any given font, there's no global declaration. So, in this case, you would do something like {\fontencoding{TS1}\selectfont\rpcode\font 176=200} (and do it as many time as sizes you may want to use) Thierry Bouche __ « Ils vivent pour vivre, et nous, hélas ! nous vivons pour savoir. » Charles Baudelaire, Paris. _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 30-Apr-2001 12:32:22-GMT,3220;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA17267 for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 06:32:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 45EC12AE8B; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 14:33:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from POP3.tu-dresden.de (pop3.tu-dresden.de [141.30.66.133]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f3UCWEm32084 for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 14:32:14 +0200 Received: from rmail.urz.tu-dresden.de by rkstest with SMTP (PP); Mon, 30 Apr 2001 14:29:47 +0200 Received: from physik.phy.tu-dresden.de by rmail with SMTP (IC-PP); Mon, 30 Apr 2001 14:25:04 +0200 Received: from pomp47.phy.tu-dresden.de by physik.phy.tu-dresden.de (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA22438; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 14:31:18 +0200 Message-Id: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.7 on Linux X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Organization: IOMP / TU Dresden From: Carsten Schurig To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] char protruding Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.daimi.au.dk id f3UCWEm32084 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 14:31:18 +0200 (CEST) OK, forget my last posting. I wrote without further testing. Now I defined it as following \def\setprotcodeTS#1{% % \textdegree in TS1 encoding \ifx\textdegree\undefined\else\rpcode#1 176=5000\fi \ifnum\pdftexversion > 13 \ifnum \expandafter`\pdftexrevision > `g \adjustprotcode#1 \fi \fi } \def\setupfont{% \setprotcode\font% {\fontencoding{TS1}\selectfont\setprotcodeTS\font}% } That way it working, when Using 180\textdegree. But my problem ist, I'm heavily using SIunits and units there are generally defined as math mode, so \degree comes down to: \renewcommand{\degree}{% \ensuremath{\mathrm{\text{\textdegree}}}} I think the crucial point is the using of math mode. That prevents the char protruding. But to use the \unit command in normal text mode and math mode, I would say the above definition of \degree ist needed. So I can't imagine any other definition. As it is only one or two times when char protruding is needed I could compose it "by hand" without using SIunits. But that's not satisfying. :-( Any comments welcome... Carsten _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 30-Apr-2001 13:52:22-GMT,2656;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA17923 for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 07:52:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id F3BEA2AE82; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 15:53:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu (ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu [152.17.150.2]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3UDqGm32426 for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 15:52:16 +0200 Received: from localhost (cottrell@localhost) by ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu (8.11.2/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3UDpBt32002; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 09:51:12 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu: cottrell owned process doing -bs From: Allin Cottrell X-X-Sender: To: "Christopher S. Swingley" Cc: Subject: Re: [pdftex] Metapost and PDF files In-Reply-To: <20010428132024.A9312@iarc.uaf.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 09:51:11 -0400 (EDT) On Sat, 28 Apr 2001, Christopher S. Swingley wrote: > I'm having a devil of a time trying to figure out how to use Metapost > in combination with PDFTeX and Ghostscript. I believe the problem is > that I want to use the Computer Modern fonts in my figures, but the > only program that seems to understand how to deal with these fonts > is dvips.... You may already have this figured, but here's one suggestion. If you use latex, you can let it handle the fonts. Start your .mp source file with verbatimtex \documentclass{article} \begin{document} etex (and stick in \usepackage{whatever_font} if you wish). Then make sure latex gets invoked when doing the processing. I have in a Makefile: %.mps : %.ps mv $< $@ %.ps : %.mp TEX=latex mpost $< Allin Cottrell. _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 30-Apr-2001 21:17:22-GMT,2642;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA24854 for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 15:17:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id B48232AE82; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 23:18:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from nx5.HRZ.Uni-Dortmund.DE (nx5.HRZ.Uni-Dortmund.DE [129.217.131.21]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3ULH9m01644 for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 23:17:09 +0200 Received: from sx2.hrz.uni-dortmund.de by nx5.HRZ.Uni-Dortmund.DE via smtp-local with ESMTP; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 23:16:08 +0200 Received: from rigel.univie.ac.at (dial-143154.HRZ.Uni-Dortmund.DE [129.217.143.154]) by sx2.hrz.uni-dortmund.de (8.10.2+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f3ULG6B07473; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 23:16:07 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from localhost (sx0005@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rigel.univie.ac.at (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA07528; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 22:25:54 +0200 Message-Id: <20010430.222554.10294200.wl@gnu.org> To: tim@maths.tcd.ie Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] Metapost and PDF files From: Werner LEMBERG In-Reply-To: <20010429143612.A11292@boole.maths.tcd.ie> References: <20010428151810.B9615@iarc.uaf.edu> <20010429143612.A11292@boole.maths.tcd.ie> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.95b99 on Emacs 21.0.103.4 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 22:25:54 +0200 (CEST) > I wonder if anyone has ever used MetaPost with troff? Good question. I haven't known that MetaPost has a troff interface at all... Where can I get more info? > I read that the last troff-user died 7 years ago, aged 101. Troff users maybe, but gtroff is still alive. A few days ago I've released version 1.17 (which isn't probably on gnu.org yet; you can download it from ftp://ftp.ffii.org/pub/groff). Werner _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 1-May-2001 8:16:20-GMT,2475;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA01815 for ; Tue, 1 May 2001 02:16:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 1D53B2AE8B; Tue, 1 May 2001 10:17:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail3.ox.ac.uk [129.67.1.180]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f418Gwm03944 for ; Tue, 1 May 2001 10:16:58 +0200 Received: from heraldgate2.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.50] helo=frontend2.herald.ox.ac.uk ident=exim) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 14uVKN-0001Iv-00; Tue, 01 May 2001 09:16:11 +0100 Received: from spqr-tosh.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.14.230] helo=spqr-tosh ident=rahtz) by frontend2.herald.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 14uVKN-00015n-00; Tue, 1 May 2001 09:16:11 +0100 X-Mailer: emacs 20.7.2 (via feedmail 8 Q); VM 6.92 under Emacs 20.7.2 From: "Sebastian Rahtz" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15085.61519.483543.305112@gargle.gargle.HOWL> To: tim@maths.tcd.ie Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] Metapost and PDF files In-Reply-To: <20010429143612.A11292@boole.maths.tcd.ie> References: <20010428151810.B9615@iarc.uaf.edu> <20010429143612.A11292@boole.maths.tcd.ie> Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 00:07:59 +0100 Timothy Murphy writes: > > I wonder if anyone has ever used MetaPost with troff? > > I read that the last troff-user died 7 years ago, aged 101. as opposed the the people who use groff every day of their lives? though I doubt if any groff user knows about Metapost! I wonder if TeX will last as long as troff? sebastian _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 1-May-2001 10:06:20-GMT,3081;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA02505 for ; Tue, 1 May 2001 04:06:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 4966F2AE8F; Tue, 1 May 2001 12:07:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.cs.uu.nl (sunset.cs.uu.nl [131.211.80.32]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f41A63m04304 for ; Tue, 1 May 2001 12:06:03 +0200 Received: from mihoen.cs.uu.nl (mihoen.cs.uu.nl [131.211.80.223]) by mail.cs.uu.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0E5D4543; Tue, 1 May 2001 12:05:17 +0200 (MET DST) From: Otfried Cheong To: pdftex@tug.org In-reply-to: <20010428223700.4F9D52B460@tug.org> (pdftex-request@tug.org) Subject: Re: [pdftex] redundant objects with includegraphics MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: GNU Emacs 20.7.1 References: <20010428223700.4F9D52B460@tug.org> Message-Id: <20010501100517.A0E5D4543@mail.cs.uu.nl> Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 12:05:17 +0200 (MET DST) Reinhard Kotucha writes: > > >>>>> "Andreas" == Andreas Matthias writes: > > > In comp.text.pdf there are quite often questions about how to > > create pdf documents in 2up and 4up mode. If redundant objects > > could be reduced, pdftex would be the answer. > > pdftex is the answer, anyway. But as far as optimization is > concerned, I think that a post processor could do a better job. The > reason is that TeX cannot look ahead. Would it perhaps be easier to do this if one left part of the work to the user (or the macro package)? I could imagine this to work as follows: There is a variant of \pdfximage that would include a PDF file and create XObject's for each of its pages. These XObject's are numbered consecutively, \pdflastximage returns the number of the first page, and \pdflastximagepages (or so) returns the number of pages read. The TeX document can now use the pages of the document using \pdfrefximage (with a number in the range \pdflastximage .. \pdflastximage + \pdflastximagepages - 1). All resources used by ALL PAGES of the PDF file would be included in the pdftex output either immediately by \pdfximage or when the first page is referenced. Otfried Cheong _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 1-May-2001 11:38:20-GMT,3849;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA02912 for ; Tue, 1 May 2001 05:38:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 242582B44A; Tue, 1 May 2001 13:39:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f41Bcsm04703 for ; Tue, 1 May 2001 13:38:54 +0200 Received: from remote142-11.home.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.142.11] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 14uYTm-0003Qp-00; Tue, 1 May 2001 13:38:07 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.20010501133615.098fd49a@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) To: Otfried Cheong , pdftex@tug.org From: Heiko Oberdiek Subject: Re: [pdftex] redundant objects with includegraphics In-Reply-To: <20010501100517.A0E5D4543@mail.cs.uu.nl> References: <20010428223700.4F9D52B460@tug.org> <20010428223700.4F9D52B460@tug.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 13:36:15 +0200 At 12:05 01.05.2001 +0200, Otfried Cheong wrote: > >Reinhard Kotucha writes: > > > > >>>>> "Andreas" == Andreas Matthias writes: > > > > > In comp.text.pdf there are quite often questions about how to > > > create pdf documents in 2up and 4up mode. If redundant objects > > > could be reduced, pdftex would be the answer. > > > > pdftex is the answer, anyway. But as far as optimization is > > concerned, I think that a post processor could do a better job. The > > reason is that TeX cannot look ahead. > >There is a variant of \pdfximage that would include a PDF file and >create XObject's for each of its pages. These XObject's are numbered >consecutively, \pdflastximage returns the number of the first page, >and \pdflastximagepages (or so) returns the number of pages read. > >The TeX document can now use the pages of the document using >\pdfrefximage (with a number in the range \pdflastximage >.. \pdflastximage + \pdflastximagepages - 1). > >All resources used by ALL PAGES of the PDF file would be included in >the pdftex output either immediately by \pdfximage or when the first >page is referenced. But, if only one page is needed, then _all_ resources will be included instead of perhaps ten percent. I agree with Reinhard, that a post processor can do a better job: * Detecting and removing redundant objects. * Reorganisation to make a more effective structur. * Removing unnecessary white spaces. * Linearizing/optimizing the pdf file. * Independence of the producer of the pdf file (pdfTeX, gs, dvipdfm, ...). And perhaps other features: * "psnup", "psselect". * Adding/removing encryption. * Manipulating (adding/changing/removing values). Finally one or some persons are welcome with a lot of free time that are willing to create such a free program ;-) Yours sincerely Heiko _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 1-May-2001 14:33:22-GMT,4860;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA04191 for ; Tue, 1 May 2001 08:33:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 723512AE99; Tue, 1 May 2001 16:34:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.cs.uu.nl (sunset.cs.uu.nl [131.211.80.32]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f41EXAm05423 for ; Tue, 1 May 2001 16:33:10 +0200 Received: from mihoen.cs.uu.nl (mihoen.cs.uu.nl [131.211.80.223]) by mail.cs.uu.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6771B452A; Tue, 1 May 2001 16:32:24 +0200 (MET DST) From: Otfried Cheong To: oberdiek@ruf.uni-freiburg.de Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-reply-to: <3.0.1.16.20010501133615.098fd49a@localhost> (message from Heiko Oberdiek on Tue, 01 May 2001 13:36:15 +0200) Subject: Re: [pdftex] redundant objects with includegraphics MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: GNU Emacs 20.7.1 References: <20010428223700.4F9D52B460@tug.org> <20010428223700.4F9D52B460@tug.org> <3.0.1.16.20010501133615.098fd49a@localhost> Message-Id: <20010501143224.6771B452A@mail.cs.uu.nl> Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 16:32:24 +0200 (MET DST) > >There is a variant of \pdfximage that would include a PDF file and > >create XObject's for each of its pages. These XObject's are numbered > >consecutively, \pdflastximage returns the number of the first page, > >and \pdflastximagepages (or so) returns the number of pages read. > > > >The TeX document can now use the pages of the document using > >\pdfrefximage (with a number in the range \pdflastximage > >.. \pdflastximage + \pdflastximagepages - 1). > > > >All resources used by ALL PAGES of the PDF file would be included in > >the pdftex output either immediately by \pdfximage or when the first > >page is referenced. > > But, if only one page is needed, then _all_ resources will be > included instead of perhaps ten percent. No, because the user (or macro package) would use "\pdfximage page 17 {a.pdf}" instead of the proposed variant "\pdfximage page * {a.pdf}" to include a single page. Tricky is the case of 2 .. n-1 pages, where the user has a choice between including them separately (with the risk of duplicated resources), or at once (with the risk of including unused resources). Clearly both problems can be fixed with a postprocessor. One might even argue that my proposed solution is even better with a postprocessor, since it is easier to identify unused resources than to remove duplicates (duplicates are not necessarily literally identical, think about indirect references inside resources). If one were really ambitious, one could extend my suggestion to a format that would handle arbitrary subsets of pages, such as: \pdfximage page 17 {a.pdf} \pdfximage page 17-42 {a.pdf} \pdfximage page 1-12,24,40-42 {a.pdf} \pdfximage page * {a.pdf} > I agree with Reinhard, that a post processor can do a better job: > [...] Clearly such a postprocessor would be a powerful tool, and we'll all be happy if this mythical volunteer with lots of free time appears to our rescue. (If any PDF-interested student at our department reads this - come to me to discuss a graduation project :-) But not everything that can be done by a postprocessor needs to be deferred to that stage. Pdftex produces excellent PDF as it is, and has several features that could have been left to a postprocessor (compression is a prime example). My suggested extension to \pdfximage can be implemented with very little effort. In fact, I just looked at the pdftex sources and found that the suggested command "\pdflastximagepages" to retrieve the number of pages in an included PDF file already exists! It works fine on 14h-pretest-20010310, but is not yet in the pdftex manual. So, if people agree that my suggested extension to \pdfximage is useful, and nobody more qualified takes it up, I will go and try to implement it in pdftex. I guess I could do this in a day, while a postprocessor looks a bit more work :-) Best wishes, Otfried Cheong _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 1-May-2001 15:25:20-GMT,1761;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA04869 for ; Tue, 1 May 2001 09:25:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 23FB22B44F; Tue, 1 May 2001 17:26:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from luiza.ct.ornl.gov (luiza.ct.ornl.gov [128.219.18.5]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f41FPPm05829 for ; Tue, 1 May 2001 17:25:25 +0200 Received: from luiza.ct.ornl.gov (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by luiza.ct.ornl.gov (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA134220 for ; Tue, 1 May 2001 11:21:52 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200105011521.LAA134220@luiza.ct.ornl.gov> To: pdftex@tug.org From: Valmor de Almeida Subject: [pdftex] draft Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 11:21:52 -0400 Hi list, Is it possible to have the word "draft" written in the background of all pages of a document using pdflatex? In a similar way to latex when the draftcopy macro is used? Thanks, -- Valmor _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 1-May-2001 15:40:20-GMT,2601;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA05063 for ; Tue, 1 May 2001 09:40:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 3332B2B457; Tue, 1 May 2001 17:41:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from wizard.ucc.ie (wizard.ucc.ie [143.239.211.92]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f41FeAm05960 for ; Tue, 1 May 2001 17:40:10 +0200 Received: from cs.ucc.ie (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wizard.ucc.ie (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA24126 for ; Tue, 1 May 2001 16:39:32 +0100 Message-ID: <3AEED8B4.BB521496@cs.ucc.ie> From: Frank Boehme X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.10 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] draft References: <200105011521.LAA134220@luiza.ct.ornl.gov> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 16:39:32 +0100 Valmor de Almeida wrote: > > Hi list, > > Is it possible to have the word "draft" > written in the background of all pages of a document > using pdflatex? In a similar way to latex when the draftcopy macro > is used? This is a FAQ, I believe. For a similar purpose, I use this: \usepackage[pdftex]{graphics,color} \usepackage{eso-pic} \AddToShipoutPicture{\resizebox{0.9\pdfpagewidth}{0.9\pdfpageheight}% {\rotatebox{60}{\color[gray]{0.8}\hspace*{5mm}\textsc{Sample Paper}}}} Adapt that to your needs. Frank -- Dr Frank Boehme | Email: f.boehme@cs.ucc.ie National University of Ireland, Cork | phone: +353-21-4903163 Dept of Computer Science | fax: +353-21-4903113 Cork, Ireland | _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 1-May-2001 15:59:20-GMT,2833;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA05301 for ; Tue, 1 May 2001 09:59:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 04F2D2B456; Tue, 1 May 2001 18:00:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from luiza.ct.ornl.gov (luiza.ct.ornl.gov [128.219.18.5]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f41FxDm06076 for ; Tue, 1 May 2001 17:59:13 +0200 Received: from luiza.ct.ornl.gov (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by luiza.ct.ornl.gov (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA149241; Tue, 1 May 2001 11:55:36 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200105011555.LAA149241@luiza.ct.ornl.gov> To: Frank Boehme Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] draft In-Reply-To: Message from Frank Boehme of "Tue, 01 May 2001 16:39:32 BST." <3AEED8B4.BB521496@cs.ucc.ie> From: Valmor de Almeida Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 11:55:35 -0400 Thanks for the prompt response. I tried and it works. -- Valmor > Valmor de Almeida wrote: > > > > Hi list, > > > > Is it possible to have the word "draft" > > written in the background of all pages of a document > > using pdflatex? In a similar way to latex when the draftcopy macro > > is used? > > This is a FAQ, I believe. For a similar purpose, I use this: > > \usepackage[pdftex]{graphics,color} > > \usepackage{eso-pic} > > \AddToShipoutPicture{\resizebox{0.9\pdfpagewidth}{0.9\pdfpageheight}% > > {\rotatebox{60}{\color[gray]{0.8}\hspace*{5mm}\textsc{Sample Paper}}}} > > Adapt that to your needs. > > Frank > > -- > Dr Frank Boehme | Email: f.boehme@cs.ucc.ie > National University of Ireland, Cork | phone: +353-21-4903163 > Dept of Computer Science | fax: +353-21-4903113 > Cork, Ireland | > _______________________________________________ > pdftex mailing list > pdftex@tug.org > http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 1-May-2001 16:25:20-GMT,3240;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA05723 for ; Tue, 1 May 2001 10:25:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id F14012B45B; Tue, 1 May 2001 18:26:00 +0200 (CEST) Received: from hal.kabsi.at (charme.kabsi.at [195.202.128.72]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f41GPrm06231 for ; Tue, 1 May 2001 18:25:53 +0200 Received: from gobin (cm.med.3284842061.kabelnet.net [195.202.182.77]) by hal.kabsi.at (8.10.2/) with SMTP id f41GOYb0001535415 for ; Tue, 1 May 2001 18:24:34 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <003101c0d25b$7c525000$4db6cac3@kabsi.at> From: "Andreas Matthias" To: References: <20010428223700.4F9D52B460@tug.org> <20010428223700.4F9D52B460@tug.org> <3.0.1.16.20010501133615.098fd49a@localhost> <20010501143224.6771B452A@mail.cs.uu.nl> Subject: Re: [pdftex] redundant objects with includegraphics MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 18:26:33 +0200 From: "Otfried Cheong" > If one were really ambitious, one could extend my suggestion to a > format that would handle arbitrary subsets of pages, such as: > > \pdfximage page 17 {a.pdf} > \pdfximage page 17-42 {a.pdf} > \pdfximage page 1-12,24,40-42 {a.pdf} > \pdfximage page * {a.pdf} [...] > My suggested extension to \pdfximage can be implemented with very > little effort. In fact, I just looked at the pdftex sources and found > that the suggested command "\pdflastximagepages" to retrieve the number > of pages in an included PDF file already exists! It works fine on > 14h-pretest-20010310, but is not yet in the pdftex manual. > > So, if people agree that my suggested extension to \pdfximage is > useful, and nobody more qualified takes it up, I will go and try to > implement it in pdftex. I guess I could do this in a day, while a > postprocessor looks a bit more work :-) This would be great. But IMHO this is just the first step. The second would be to find someone to include your extensions in `pdftex.def' (`graphicx.sty'), so that we don't lose the wonderful things that \includegraphics can do (trim, clip, rotate,...). How much effort would it require to do that? Best regards, Andreas _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 1-May-2001 18:18:20-GMT,3255;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA07504 for ; Tue, 1 May 2001 12:18:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 7647A2B461; Tue, 1 May 2001 20:19:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from nika.frontier.iarc.uaf.edu (nika.frontier.iarc.uaf.edu [137.229.94.16]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f41IIQm06844 for ; Tue, 1 May 2001 20:18:26 +0200 Received: by nika.frontier.iarc.uaf.edu (Postfix, from userid 1112) id 3B05D140D0; Tue, 1 May 2001 10:17:38 -0800 (AKDT) From: "Christopher S. Swingley" To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] Metapost and PDF files Message-ID: <20010501101737.A1633@iarc.uaf.edu> Mail-Followup-To: "Christopher S. Swingley" , pdftex@tug.org References: <20010428132024.A9312@iarc.uaf.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i In-Reply-To: ; from cottrell@wfu.edu on Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 09:51:11AM -0400 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 10:17:38 -0800 Thanks for all the help with Metapost files and PDF. I still have one question -- what is the best method for including metapost figures into a TeX document so that I can run it through TeX and pdfTeX? Everything works great with LaTeX (\includegraphics, etc.), but I don't know how to get the figures into TeX. It works to run TeX on '\input epsf \epsfbox{fig.mps}', but pdfTeX ignores the 'Non-PDF' special and the figure isn't included (probably because TeX turns it into an EPS file). I also investigated the MPtoPDF description at http://www.pragma-ade.com/mptopdf.htm I can get the 'texexec --pdf --fig=c --result=fig.pdf fig.mp' command to produce a single PDF of a figure, but it isn't clear to me how this helps me get the file into a TeX document for use with tex or pdftex. Any hints on the "best" way to include metapost figures into straight TeX documents to they'll run with TeX and pdfTeX? Thanks! Chris -- Christopher S. Swingley 930 Koyukuk Drive System / Network Manager University of Alaska Fairbanks IARC -- Frontier Program Fairbanks, AK 99775 phone: 907-474-2689 fax: 907-474-2643 email: cswingle@iarc.uaf.edu GNUPG and PGP2 keys at my web site web: http://www.frontier.iarc.uaf.edu/~cswingle _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 2-May-2001 8:38:50-GMT,3132;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA16970 for ; Wed, 2 May 2001 02:38:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 056C02B460; Wed, 2 May 2001 10:02:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4281Lm09986 for ; Wed, 2 May 2001 10:01:21 +0200 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA08960; Wed, 2 May 2001 09:40:23 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA13219; Wed, 2 May 2001 09:40:22 +0200 (MET DST) From: Han The Thanh To: Otfried Cheong Cc: oberdiek@ruf.uni-freiburg.de, pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] redundant objects with includegraphics Message-ID: <20010502094022.F12372@anxur.fi.muni.cz> References: <20010428223700.4F9D52B460@tug.org> <20010428223700.4F9D52B460@tug.org> <3.0.1.16.20010501133615.098fd49a@localhost> <20010501143224.6771B452A@mail.cs.uu.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20010501143224.6771B452A@mail.cs.uu.nl>; from otfried@cs.uu.nl on Tue, May 01, 2001 at 04:32:24PM +0200 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 09:40:22 +0200 Hi, > My suggested extension to \pdfximage can be implemented with very > little effort. In fact, I just looked at the pdftex sources and found > that the suggested command "\pdflastximagepages" to retrieve the number > of pages in an included PDF file already exists! It works fine on > 14h-pretest-20010310, but is not yet in the pdftex manual. > > So, if people agree that my suggested extension to \pdfximage is > useful, and nobody more qualified takes it up, I will go and try to > implement it in pdftex. I guess I could do this in a day, while a > postprocessor looks a bit more work :-) your idea of including a few pages from a pdf at once is simple and great. At the moment I am quite busy, so you are much welcome to do the job, otherwise I will take a look when I have more time. In case you are going to give a try, I think it would be better to do it using a new primitive instead of extending the current \pdfximage. Regards, Thanh _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 2-May-2001 11:40:20-GMT,5273;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA18076 for ; Wed, 2 May 2001 05:40:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 7C1282AE8B; Wed, 2 May 2001 13:41:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.cs.uu.nl (sunset.cs.uu.nl [131.211.80.32]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f42Bevm11021 for ; Wed, 2 May 2001 13:40:57 +0200 Received: from mihoen.cs.uu.nl (mihoen.cs.uu.nl [131.211.80.223]) by mail.cs.uu.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01D2E4548; Wed, 2 May 2001 13:40:10 +0200 (MET DST) From: Otfried Cheong To: pdftex@tug.org In-reply-to: <20010502094022.F12372@anxur.fi.muni.cz> (message from Han The Thanh on Wed, 2 May 2001 09:40:22 +0200) Subject: Re: [pdftex] redundant objects with includegraphics MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: GNU Emacs 20.7.1 References: <20010428223700.4F9D52B460@tug.org> <20010428223700.4F9D52B460@tug.org> <3.0.1.16.20010501133615.098fd49a@localhost> <20010501143224.6771B452A@mail.cs.uu.nl> <20010502094022.F12372@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Message-Id: <20010502114011.01D2E4548@mail.cs.uu.nl> Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 13:40:11 +0200 (MET DST) Andreas Matthias amat@kabsi.at writes: > > > So, if people agree that my suggested extension to \pdfximage is > > useful, and nobody more qualified takes it up, I will go and try to > > implement it in pdftex. I guess I could do this in a day, while a > > postprocessor looks a bit more work :-) > > This would be great. But IMHO this is just the first step. The > second would be to find someone to include your extensions > in `pdftex.def' (`graphicx.sty'), so that we don't lose the > wonderful things that \includegraphics can do (trim, clip, rotate,...). > How much effort would it require to do that? That is of course a good point. It seems difficult for a macro package to allow users to use the extension as I proposed it. In any case, 'pdftex.def' does not currently seem to have support for including a selected page from a PDF file, and can only include single-page documents (or the first page of multi-page documents). So at this moment, my proposal is irrelevant for 'graphicx.sty'. However, with Thanh's encouragement, I've looked at the pdftex code a bit more, and here is a refined proposal that would require no changes in any macro package. The idea is as follows: At the beginning of the document, a user requests that a PDF file "a.pdf" is embedded by saying "\pdfembed{a.pdf}". This would create PDF objects for all the pages of "a.pdf", and all their resources, without duplication. In the following, users can then include pages from "a.pdf" normally, using "\pdfximage page {a.pdf}" (or "\includegraphics", once it has support for page selection). This would work fine, because "\pdfximage" would know that "a.pdf" is already embedded and would simply return a reference to the XObject. This feature could be generalized a bit. Currently, if one does this: Some text... \includegraphics{a.pdf} more text... \includegraphics{a.pdf} still some text..., one ends up with TWO copies of the embedded PDF file "a.pdf". Obviously one can avoid that using the \pdfrefximage feature, but I don't think \includegraphics gives access to that. Still one can of course avoid the problem using \setbox and \usebox (but that doesn't scale arbitrarily). Now, pdftex already builds a table of all the included images, with their filenames and page numbers. We could easily modify the semantics of "\pdfximage" to return the reference number of the already existing image in its table, if the filename and page number match (slight catch: the attr attributes of the image may not be identical). The effect would be that the code fragment above will only embed "a.pdf" once, and reuse it as often as necessary. With this changed semantics, "\pdfembed" is then trivial: It just embeds all the pages and resources at once, and adds entries to the figure table for each page. Future attempts to load individual pages from "a.pdf" using \pdfximage will simply reference the already embedded pages. Is this desirable? Or is there a reason for the current design that does not check the image table, and leaves object reuse to the user using \pdfrefximage? I cannot come up with a reason why one would want to embed the same file multiple times, but perhaps my thinking isn't twisted enough yet :-) Otfried _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 2-May-2001 12:07:20-GMT,3302;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA18232 for ; Wed, 2 May 2001 06:07:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 345BD2AE99; Wed, 2 May 2001 14:08:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.cs.uu.nl (sunset.cs.uu.nl [131.211.80.32]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f42C7gm11180 for ; Wed, 2 May 2001 14:07:42 +0200 Received: from mihoen.cs.uu.nl (mihoen.cs.uu.nl [131.211.80.223]) by mail.cs.uu.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FFDB4548; Wed, 2 May 2001 14:06:56 +0200 (MET DST) From: Otfried Cheong To: pdftex@tug.org In-reply-to: <20010502094022.F12372@anxur.fi.muni.cz> (message from Han The Thanh on Wed, 2 May 2001 09:40:22 +0200) Subject: Re: [pdftex] redundant objects with includegraphics MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: GNU Emacs 20.7.1 References: <20010428223700.4F9D52B460@tug.org> <20010428223700.4F9D52B460@tug.org> <3.0.1.16.20010501133615.098fd49a@localhost> <20010501143224.6771B452A@mail.cs.uu.nl> <20010502094022.F12372@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Message-Id: <20010502120656.2FFDB4548@mail.cs.uu.nl> Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 14:06:56 +0200 (MET DST) > In any case, 'pdftex.def' does not currently seem to have support > for including a selected page from a PDF file, and can only include > single-page documents (or the first page of multi-page documents). This was, of course, nonsense - I had been looking at an ancient copy of 'pdftex.def'. So, indeed, with my proposed new primitive and change of \pdfximage semantics, one could write: \includegraphics[page=1]{a.pdf} \includegraphics[page=2]{a.pdf} \includegraphics[page=3]{a.pdf} which might duplicate resources in the PDF output, but would not include unused resources. On the other hand, one could write \pdfembed{a.pdf} \includegraphics[page=1]{a.pdf} \includegraphics[page=2]{a.pdf} \includegraphics[page=3]{a.pdf} which would include all resources from a.pdf in the PDF output, without duplication, but may create unused resources. I suppose it would be nice to have \pdfembed pages 1 3 {a.pdf} \includegraphics[page=1]{a.pdf} \includegraphics[page=2]{a.pdf} \includegraphics[page=3]{a.pdf} which would include exactly the necessary resources. For the moment, however, I don't think I want to do this \pdfembed pages 1-3,5,17-42,59,66-78 {a.pdf} yet :-) Otfried _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 2-May-2001 12:11:21-GMT,2953;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA18266 for ; Wed, 2 May 2001 06:11:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 9AC862B456; Wed, 2 May 2001 14:12:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail2.ox.ac.uk [163.1.2.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f42CBLm11252 for ; Wed, 2 May 2001 14:11:21 +0200 Received: from heraldgate2.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.50] helo=frontend2.herald.ox.ac.uk ident=exim) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 14uvSl-0004zo-00; Wed, 02 May 2001 13:10:35 +0100 Received: from spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.15.17] helo=spqr) by frontend2.herald.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 14uvSl-00030N-00; Wed, 2 May 2001 13:10:35 +0100 From: Sebastian Rahtz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15087.63831.809682.150006@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> To: otfried@cs.uu.nl Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] redundant objects with includegraphics In-Reply-To: <20010502114011.01D2E4548@mail.cs.uu.nl> References: <20010428223700.4F9D52B460@tug.org> <3.0.1.16.20010501133615.098fd49a@localhost> <20010501143224.6771B452A@mail.cs.uu.nl> <20010502094022.F12372@anxur.fi.muni.cz> <20010502114011.01D2E4548@mail.cs.uu.nl> X-Mailer: VM 6.86 under Emacs 20.7.2 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 13:11:03 +0100 Otfried Cheong writes: > Currently, if one does this: > > Some text... > \includegraphics{a.pdf} > more text... > \includegraphics{a.pdf} > still some text..., > > one ends up with TWO copies of the embedded PDF file "a.pdf". > Obviously one can avoid that using the \pdfrefximage feature, but I > don't think \includegraphics gives access to that. Still one can > of course avoid the problem using \setbox and \usebox (but that > doesn't scale arbitrarily). unless I am going soft in the head, or someone has broken it, pdftex.def for includegraphics does keep just copy of an included graphic, and subsequent requests just reference that copy. I clearly recall doing the work several years ago Sebastian _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 2-May-2001 12:19:28-GMT,3539;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA18338 for ; Wed, 2 May 2001 06:19:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 917DF2B45D; Wed, 2 May 2001 14:20:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from isy.liu.se (isy.liu.se [130.236.48.10]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f42CJSm11326 for ; Wed, 2 May 2001 14:19:28 +0200 Received: from vaz.isy.liu.se (vaz.isy.liu.se [130.236.50.217]) by isy.liu.se (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f42CIg915383 for ; Wed, 2 May 2001 14:18:42 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from localhost (frisk@localhost) by vaz.isy.liu.se (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA22198 for ; Wed, 2 May 2001 14:18:42 +0200 (MET DST) X-Authentication-Warning: vaz.isy.liu.se: frisk owned process doing -bs From: Erik Frisk To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] redundant objects with includegraphics In-Reply-To: <15087.63831.809682.150006@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 14:18:42 +0200 (MET DST) > unless I am going soft in the head, or someone has broken it, > pdftex.def for includegraphics does keep just copy of an included > graphic, and subsequent requests just reference that copy. I clearly > recall doing the work several years ago This is just my impression, but I just thought I didn't understand the discussion. Inclusion of image 'liulogo.pdf' on 9 succesive pages gives: loading : Context Support Macros / PDF ) [1{/home/fs/fris k/usr/teTeX/texmf/dvips/config/pdftex.map}{/home/fs/frisk/TeX/mytexmf/pdftex/co nfig/ttfonts-pdftex.map}{/home/fs/frisk/usr/teTeX/texmf-local/pdftex/config/zpe u.pdfmap} <./liulogo.pdf>] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] (./ustest.aux ) ) Output written on ustest.pdf (9 pages, 29857 bytes). And it sure seems that pdftex is reusing liulogo.pdf /E --------------------------------------------------------------------- Erik Frisk email: frisk@isy.liu.se Dept. of Electrical Engineering tel: +46 13 285714 Vehicular Systems fax: +46 13 282035 Linköping University S-581 83 Linköping SWEDEN www.vehicular.isy.liu.se/~frisk --------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 2-May-2001 12:39:20-GMT,3355;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA18497 for ; Wed, 2 May 2001 06:39:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 467C92AE99; Wed, 2 May 2001 14:40:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.cs.uu.nl (sunset.cs.uu.nl [131.211.80.32]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f42CdNm11497 for ; Wed, 2 May 2001 14:39:24 +0200 Received: from mihoen.cs.uu.nl (mihoen.cs.uu.nl [131.211.80.223]) by mail.cs.uu.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 667664548; Wed, 2 May 2001 14:38:37 +0200 (MET DST) From: Otfried Cheong To: sebastian.rahtz@computing-services.oxford.ac.uk Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-reply-to: <15087.63831.809682.150006@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> (message from Sebastian Rahtz on Wed, 2 May 2001 13:11:03 +0100) Subject: Re: [pdftex] redundant objects with includegraphics MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: GNU Emacs 20.7.1 References: <20010428223700.4F9D52B460@tug.org> <3.0.1.16.20010501133615.098fd49a@localhost> <20010501143224.6771B452A@mail.cs.uu.nl> <20010502094022.F12372@anxur.fi.muni.cz> <20010502114011.01D2E4548@mail.cs.uu.nl> <15087.63831.809682.150006@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Message-Id: <20010502123837.667664548@mail.cs.uu.nl> Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 14:38:37 +0200 (MET DST) > unless I am going soft in the head, or someone has broken it, > pdftex.def for includegraphics does keep just copy of an included > graphic, and subsequent requests just reference that copy. I clearly > recall doing the work several years ago It's me who's going soft in the head. I had tested with \pdfximage and jumped to conclusions about \includegraphics. Since 'pdftex.def' already caches this information, it shouldn't be so hard to add support for my original proposal. Let's say we add a primitive \pdfembedpdf [ pages ] {pdf-filename} \pdflastximage then returns the reference for the page, \pdflastximagepages returns the number of pages included (not the number of pages in the PDF file). You could use any page in the range by using \pdfrefximage , where is in the range \pdflastximage .. \pdflastximage + \pdflastximagepages - 1. Would it be easy to support this in 'pdftex.def'? Such as this: \includegraphics[page=1,cache=3]{a.pdf} \includegraphics[page=2]{a.pdf} \includegraphics[page=3]{a.pdf} The 'cache' option asks for the embedding of three pages, starting with page 1. Or could you suggest a different form of the new primitive? Otfried _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 2-May-2001 13:05:20-GMT,2673;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA18688 for ; Wed, 2 May 2001 07:05:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id AC73C2AE8B; Wed, 2 May 2001 15:06:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from hal.kabsi.at (charme.kabsi.at [195.202.128.72]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f42D5Gm11675 for ; Wed, 2 May 2001 15:05:16 +0200 Received: from gobin (cm.med.3284842061.kabelnet.net [195.202.182.77]) by hal.kabsi.at (8.10.2/) with SMTP id f42D3j10001101941; Wed, 2 May 2001 15:03:45 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <014b01c0d308$9bf1fb60$4db6cac3@kabsi.at> From: "Andreas Matthias" To: "Otfried Cheong" , References: <20010428223700.4F9D52B460@tug.org> <20010428223700.4F9D52B460@tug.org> <3.0.1.16.20010501133615.098fd49a@localhost> <20010501143224.6771B452A@mail.cs.uu.nl> <20010502094022.F12372@anxur.fi.muni.cz> <20010502120656.2FFDB4548@mail.cs.uu.nl> Subject: Re: [pdftex] redundant objects with includegraphics MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 15:05:48 +0200 From: "Otfried Cheong" > I suppose it would be nice to have > > \pdfembed pages 1 3 {a.pdf} > \includegraphics[page=1]{a.pdf} > \includegraphics[page=2]{a.pdf} > \includegraphics[page=3]{a.pdf} > > which would include exactly the necessary resources. This would be nice. I think usually the user wants to include consecutive pages. > For the moment, however, I don't think I want to do this > > \pdfembed pages 1-3,5,17-42,59,66-78 {a.pdf} > > yet :-) This one would be even nicer :-) Best regards, Andreas _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 2-May-2001 13:12:25-GMT,2412;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA18731 for ; Wed, 2 May 2001 07:12:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id B270D2B465; Wed, 2 May 2001 15:13:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from wisbech.cl.cam.ac.uk (mta1.cl.cam.ac.uk [128.232.0.15]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f42DC9m11783 for ; Wed, 2 May 2001 15:12:09 +0200 Received: from pallas.cl.cam.ac.uk ([128.232.8.88] helo=cl.cam.ac.uk ident=rf) by wisbech.cl.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.092 #1) id 14uwPa-0003Sf-00; Wed, 02 May 2001 14:11:22 +0100 To: "Andreas Matthias" Cc: "Otfried Cheong" , pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] redundant objects with includegraphics In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 02 May 2001 15:05:48 +0200." <014b01c0d308$9bf1fb60$4db6cac3@kabsi.at> From: Robin Fairbairns Message-Id: Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 14:11:22 +0100 > > I suppose it would be nice to have > > > > \pdfembed pages 1 3 {a.pdf} > > \includegraphics[page=1]{a.pdf} > > \includegraphics[page=2]{a.pdf} > > \includegraphics[page=3]{a.pdf} > > > > which would include exactly the necessary resources. > > This would be nice. I think usually the user wants to > include consecutive pages. > > > For the moment, however, I don't think I want to do this > > > > \pdfembed pages 1-3,5,17-42,59,66-78 {a.pdf} > > > > yet :-) > > This one would be even nicer :-) isn't that what pdfpages does? i've never looked at its insides. r _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 2-May-2001 13:15:32-GMT,2498;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA18755 for ; Wed, 2 May 2001 07:15:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 15B312B469; Wed, 2 May 2001 15:16:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail3.ox.ac.uk [129.67.1.180]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f42DFFm11967 for ; Wed, 2 May 2001 15:15:15 +0200 Received: from heraldgate2.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.50] helo=frontend2.herald.ox.ac.uk ident=exim) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 14uwSb-0006Hp-00; Wed, 02 May 2001 14:14:29 +0100 Received: from spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.15.17] helo=spqr) by frontend2.herald.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 14uwSa-0004ZO-00; Wed, 2 May 2001 14:14:29 +0100 From: Sebastian Rahtz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15088.2128.869474.865784@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> To: otfried@cs.uu.nl Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] redundant objects with includegraphics In-Reply-To: <20010502123837.667664548@mail.cs.uu.nl> References: <20010428223700.4F9D52B460@tug.org> <3.0.1.16.20010501133615.098fd49a@localhost> <20010501143224.6771B452A@mail.cs.uu.nl> <20010502094022.F12372@anxur.fi.muni.cz> <20010502114011.01D2E4548@mail.cs.uu.nl> <15087.63831.809682.150006@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> <20010502123837.667664548@mail.cs.uu.nl> X-Mailer: VM 6.86 under Emacs 20.7.2 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 14:14:56 +0100 Otfried Cheong writes: > \includegraphics[page=2]{a.pdf} > \includegraphics[page=3]{a.pdf} doesnt \includegraphics support this already? it certainly appears to. sebastian _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 2-May-2001 13:20:44-GMT,2358;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA18793 for ; Wed, 2 May 2001 07:20:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 94EBF2B461; Wed, 2 May 2001 15:21:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from hal.kabsi.at (charme.kabsi.at [195.202.128.72]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f42DKEm12003 for ; Wed, 2 May 2001 15:20:14 +0200 Received: from gobin (cm.med.3284842061.kabelnet.net [195.202.182.77]) by hal.kabsi.at (8.10.2/) with SMTP id f42DIl10001104413; Wed, 2 May 2001 15:18:48 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <018701c0d30a$b61902c0$4db6cac3@kabsi.at> From: "Andreas Matthias" To: "Robin Fairbairns" Cc: References: Subject: Re: [pdftex] redundant objects with includegraphics MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 15:20:50 +0200 From: "Robin Fairbairns" > > > For the moment, however, I don't think I want to do this > > > > > > \pdfembed pages 1-3,5,17-42,59,66-78 {a.pdf} > > > > > > yet :-) > > > > This one would be even nicer :-) > > isn't that what pdfpages does? i've never looked at its insides. Yes, it does. But with the help of \includegraphics. And that's why the file size increases that much. Andreas _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 2-May-2001 13:28:10-GMT,2429;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA18846 for ; Wed, 2 May 2001 07:28:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 69DE12B47C; Wed, 2 May 2001 15:24:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.cs.uu.nl (sunset.cs.uu.nl [131.211.80.32]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f42DNxm12034 for ; Wed, 2 May 2001 15:23:59 +0200 Received: from mihoen.cs.uu.nl (mihoen.cs.uu.nl [131.211.80.223]) by mail.cs.uu.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D74E454F; Wed, 2 May 2001 15:23:10 +0200 (MET DST) From: Otfried Cheong To: Robin.Fairbairns@cl.cam.ac.uk Cc: amat@kabsi.at, pdftex@tug.org In-reply-to: (message from Robin Fairbairns on Wed, 02 May 2001 14:11:22 +0100) Subject: Re: [pdftex] redundant objects with includegraphics MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: GNU Emacs 20.7.1 References: Message-Id: <20010502132310.0D74E454F@mail.cs.uu.nl> Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 15:23:10 +0200 (MET DST) > isn't that what pdfpages does? i've never looked at its insides. 'pdfpages' is built on top of 'graphicx', so it suffers from the same resource duplication. Which is probably the reason why Andreas asked about it in the first place :-) Speaking about 'pdfpages', I suggest that while we are at it, we add a primitive "\pdflastximagerotation" to return the value of the /Rotate page attribute of an included PDF page. It would allow 'pdfpages' to rotate them back the way they are supposed to look. Otfried _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 2-May-2001 17:16:20-GMT,3069;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA22136 for ; Wed, 2 May 2001 11:16:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 464602B456; Wed, 2 May 2001 19:17:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f42HGAm13260 for ; Wed, 2 May 2001 19:16:10 +0200 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA17350; Wed, 2 May 2001 19:15:24 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA07630; Wed, 2 May 2001 19:15:22 +0200 (MET DST) From: Han The Thanh To: Otfried Cheong Cc: pdfTeX Subject: Re: [pdftex] redundant objects with includegraphics Message-ID: <20010502191522.A6827@anxur.fi.muni.cz> References: <20010428223700.4F9D52B460@tug.org> <20010428223700.4F9D52B460@tug.org> <3.0.1.16.20010501133615.098fd49a@localhost> <20010501143224.6771B452A@mail.cs.uu.nl> <20010502094022.F12372@anxur.fi.muni.cz> <20010502114011.01D2E4548@mail.cs.uu.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20010502114011.01D2E4548@mail.cs.uu.nl>; from otfried@cs.uu.nl on Wed, May 02, 2001 at 01:40:11PM +0200 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 19:15:22 +0200 > With this changed semantics, "\pdfembed" is then trivial: It just > embeds all the pages and resources at once, and adds entries to the > figure table for each page. Future attempts to load individual pages > from "a.pdf" using \pdfximage will simply reference the already > embedded pages. if I do it, I would try to keep track of all copied objects from pdf images. Each pdf image would have a list of all objects that have been copied from the image. Images that have the same file name would share their object list. When an object is being copied, its number is checked whether it has been copied yet to avoid duplicates. This way only needed objects are copied and just once. The penalty might be in the running time, but I really doubt it matters. The rest like syntax & use with \includegraphics remains tha same. Thanh _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 2-May-2001 18:47:19-GMT,2817;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA23588 for ; Wed, 2 May 2001 12:47:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 54A8C2AE99; Wed, 2 May 2001 20:48:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from hal.kabsi.at (charme.kabsi.at [195.202.128.72]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f42Ilxm13651 for ; Wed, 2 May 2001 20:47:59 +0200 Received: from gobin (cm.med.3284842061.kabelnet.net [195.202.182.77]) by hal.kabsi.at (8.10.2/) with SMTP id f42Ikl10001160151 for ; Wed, 2 May 2001 20:46:47 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <023701c0d338$8785dc20$4db6cac3@kabsi.at> From: "Andreas Matthias" To: References: <20010502132310.0D74E454F@mail.cs.uu.nl> Subject: Re: [pdftex] redundant objects with includegraphics MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 20:48:50 +0200 From: "Otfried Cheong" > > isn't that what pdfpages does? i've never looked at its insides. > > 'pdfpages' is built on top of 'graphicx', so it suffers from the same > resource duplication. Which is probably the reason why Andreas asked > about it in the first place :-) Yes, this was my intention. > Speaking about 'pdfpages', I suggest that while we are at it, we add a > primitive "\pdflastximagerotation" to return the value of the /Rotate > page attribute of an included PDF page. It would allow 'pdfpages' to > rotate them back the way they are supposed to look. Yes, please. Knowing the /Rotate entry, it would be possible to include all pages in their correct orientation, which is not possible until now. For all who do not know, what I mean. I have tried to explain this in the pdfpages.sty documentation: 2.4 Remarks on Landscape Format. Andreas _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 2-May-2001 22:20:20-GMT,3129;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA27192 for ; Wed, 2 May 2001 16:20:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id EBA032B45D; Thu, 3 May 2001 00:21:00 +0200 (CEST) Received: from nx5.HRZ.Uni-Dortmund.DE (nx5.HRZ.Uni-Dortmund.DE [129.217.131.21]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f42MKDm14683 for ; Thu, 3 May 2001 00:20:13 +0200 Received: from sx2.hrz.uni-dortmund.de by nx5.HRZ.Uni-Dortmund.DE via smtp-local with ESMTP; Thu, 3 May 2001 00:19:14 +0200 Received: from rigel.univie.ac.at (dial-143172.HRZ.Uni-Dortmund.DE [129.217.143.172]) by sx2.hrz.uni-dortmund.de (8.10.2+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f42MJCB27081; Thu, 3 May 2001 00:19:12 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from localhost (sx0005@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rigel.univie.ac.at (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA12640; Thu, 3 May 2001 00:18:26 +0200 Message-Id: <20010503.001826.54181232.wl@gnu.org> To: pdftex@tug.org Cc: cjk@ffii.org From: Werner LEMBERG X-Mailer: Mew version 1.95b99 on Emacs 21.0.103.4 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [pdftex] problem with acroread and type 1 font matrix Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 03 May 2001 00:18:26 +0200 (CEST) This is probably the wrong list since my problem is directly related to acroread (and only indirectly to pdftex which apparently produces an error-free PDF file), but I know that many of you have much experience with pdf... I have a Japanese subfont (dmjhira from wadalab's mincho-0-12) in Type 1 format which has the following font matrix: [.001 0 0 .001 0 -0.16] My Acrobat reader 4.0 (version x86 linux stdout0124 Jan 24 2000) doesn't like this and says: Unable to extract the embedded font 'WRRTQJ+dmjhira'. Some characters may not display or print correctly. Changing `-0.16' to `0' makes acroread 4.0 accept this font (at the cost of glyphs with incorrect vertical offsets). This looks like a bug in acroread. Question 1: Is this a known problem? Does a newer version of acroread exist (for Linux) which doesn't have this bug? Question 2: Is there an easy (or not so easy) workaround? I'm willing to use t1disasm and t1asm to manipulate the Japanese fonts directly, but my knowledge of PS fonts is very limited... Werner _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 3-May-2001 13:01:20-GMT,2816;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA04369 for ; Thu, 3 May 2001 07:01:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id A7B7D2AE8B; Thu, 3 May 2001 15:02:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f43D1Nm18068 for ; Thu, 3 May 2001 15:01:23 +0200 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA20438; Thu, 3 May 2001 15:00:36 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA18932; Thu, 3 May 2001 15:00:35 +0200 (MET DST) From: Han The Thanh To: Otfried Cheong Cc: pdfTeX Subject: Re: [pdftex] redundant objects with includegraphics Message-ID: <20010503150035.A18609@anxur.fi.muni.cz> References: <20010428223700.4F9D52B460@tug.org> <20010428223700.4F9D52B460@tug.org> <3.0.1.16.20010501133615.098fd49a@localhost> <20010501143224.6771B452A@mail.cs.uu.nl> <20010502094022.F12372@anxur.fi.muni.cz> <20010502114011.01D2E4548@mail.cs.uu.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 15:00:35 +0200 Hi, > if I do it, I would try to keep track of all copied objects from pdf > images. Each pdf image would have a list of all objects that have been > copied from the image. Images that have the same file name would share > their object list. When an object is being copied, its number is checked > whether it has been copied yet to avoid duplicates. This way only needed > objects are copied and just once. The penalty might be in the running time, > but I really doubt it matters. The rest like syntax & use with > \includegraphics remains tha same. I have been thinking more of this issue and it seems to be quite feasible to do so. If you didn't start yet I will give a try. Regards, Thanh _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 3-May-2001 13:18:19-GMT,3096;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA04486 for ; Thu, 3 May 2001 07:18:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 7A5082AE8F; Thu, 3 May 2001 15:19:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.cs.uu.nl (sunset.cs.uu.nl [131.211.80.32]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f43DIZm18216 for ; Thu, 3 May 2001 15:18:35 +0200 Received: from mihoen.cs.uu.nl (mihoen.cs.uu.nl [131.211.80.223]) by mail.cs.uu.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20DF74533; Thu, 3 May 2001 15:17:48 +0200 (MET DST) From: Otfried Cheong To: thanh@informatics.muni.cz Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-reply-to: <20010503150035.A18609@anxur.fi.muni.cz> (message from Han The Thanh on Thu, 3 May 2001 15:00:35 +0200) Subject: Re: [pdftex] redundant objects with includegraphics MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: GNU Emacs 20.7.1 References: <20010428223700.4F9D52B460@tug.org> <20010428223700.4F9D52B460@tug.org> <3.0.1.16.20010501133615.098fd49a@localhost> <20010501143224.6771B452A@mail.cs.uu.nl> <20010502094022.F12372@anxur.fi.muni.cz> <20010502114011.01D2E4548@mail.cs.uu.nl> <20010503150035.A18609@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Message-Id: <20010503131748.20DF74533@mail.cs.uu.nl> Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 15:17:48 +0200 (MET DST) > > if I do it, I would try to keep track of all copied objects from > > pdf images. Each pdf image would have a list of all objects that > > have been copied from the image. Images that have the same file > > name would share their object list. When an object is being > > copied, its number is checked whether it has been copied yet to > > avoid duplicates. This way only needed objects are copied and > > just once. The penalty might be in the running time, but I really > > doubt it matters. The rest like syntax & use with > > \includegraphics remains tha same. > > I have been thinking more of this issue and it seems to be quite feasible > to do so. If you didn't start yet I will give a try. Hi Thanh, actually I've already finished my patch, and am testing it just right now :-) As you say, it wasn't that hard to do it right, without having to introduce a new primitive. I'll put up a patch later today or tomorrow. Best wishes, Otfried _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 3-May-2001 13:24:21-GMT,2749;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA04522 for ; Thu, 3 May 2001 07:24:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 39B462B44F; Thu, 3 May 2001 15:25:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f43DOZm18320 for ; Thu, 3 May 2001 15:24:36 +0200 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA24935; Thu, 3 May 2001 15:23:49 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA21539; Thu, 3 May 2001 15:23:47 +0200 (MET DST) From: Han The Thanh To: Otfried Cheong Cc: thanh@informatics.muni.cz, pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] redundant objects with includegraphics Message-ID: <20010503152347.C20100@anxur.fi.muni.cz> References: <20010428223700.4F9D52B460@tug.org> <20010428223700.4F9D52B460@tug.org> <3.0.1.16.20010501133615.098fd49a@localhost> <20010501143224.6771B452A@mail.cs.uu.nl> <20010502094022.F12372@anxur.fi.muni.cz> <20010502114011.01D2E4548@mail.cs.uu.nl> <20010503150035.A18609@anxur.fi.muni.cz> <20010503131748.20DF74533@mail.cs.uu.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20010503131748.20DF74533@mail.cs.uu.nl>; from otfried@cs.uu.nl on Thu, May 03, 2001 at 03:17:48PM +0200 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 15:23:47 +0200 Hi, > actually I've already finished my patch, and am testing it just right > now :-) As you say, it wasn't that hard to do it right, without having > to introduce a new primitive. > > I'll put up a patch later today or tomorrow. that's great. I also saw some questions about merging ps files on cstex mail list. It you can make this work, it could be the answer for merging ps files as well. Regards, Thanh _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 3-May-2001 14:34:19-GMT,3768;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA05363 for ; Thu, 3 May 2001 08:34:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id AAE372B44B; Thu, 3 May 2001 16:35:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from popgen02.biol.rug.nl (popgen02.biol.rug.nl [129.125.142.236]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f43EYsm18745 for ; Thu, 3 May 2001 16:34:54 +0200 Received: from localhost (sido@localhost) by popgen02.biol.rug.nl (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f43EZtd00840 for ; Thu, 3 May 2001 16:35:55 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: popgen02.biol.rug.nl: sido owned process doing -bs From: Sido Mylius X-X-Sender: To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [pdftex] psfrag and epstopdf: fonts not showing up Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 16:35:55 +0200 (CEST) Dear all, Finally, I switched to pdflatex (and hyperref) instead of using latex->dvips->distiller to create PDF files of my papers. It looks great, except for the fonts in the included figures. My goal is to generate (both a PS and) a PDF document including (EPS) figures modified with psfrag. [I use psfrag to modify simple EPS figures, to give these figures the same fonts etc. as the main text; e.g., \psfrag{KBP1}{$K_{BP_1}$}. Then I use a dummy LaTeX document including these figures (one figure per page) to generate a PS file; then extract the improved EPS figures with (e.g.) dvips -E -i ; then use epstopdf to convert them to PDF; and then either include the EPS or the PDF versions in a LaTeX document for generating a PS or PDF file respectively, as described in the pdfTeX FAQ sections 3.1.6 and 5.1.1. If this is all too complicated, I would welcome tips about that as well ;-) ] The improved EPS figures look perfect both on screen and on paper (PS version). But in the epstopdf-generated PDF versions of these figures, the modified text in the figures is blurred when viewed on screen, and does not show up at all when printed. In Acrobat Reader, Document Info | Fonts shows that only the fonts from the original EPS files are present in the PDF figure files (e.g. Helvetica and others). It seems to me that I should somehow persuade epstopdf to include the CM or Lucida fonts, but don't know how to do this. Using dvips with -j0 option to create the improved EPS files does not make a difference (except for the sizes of the EPS figures). Could anybody please help me out? TIA, Sido. P.S. System info: tetex-*-1.0.7-12 with epstopdf 2.5, 1999/05/06, and acroread-4.05-6 on RedHat Linux. -- /* * Sido Mylius -- Theoretical Biology, University of Groningen * * P.O. Box 14, NL - 9750 AA Haren, The Netherlands * tel: [+31-|0]50-3632119, fax: [+31|0]50-3632348 * * mailto:mylius@biol.rug.nl -- http://www.biol.rug.nl/smylius/ */ _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 3-May-2001 14:37:19-GMT,4004;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA05410 for ; Thu, 3 May 2001 08:37:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 2325D2B458; Thu, 3 May 2001 16:38:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.cs.uu.nl (sunset.cs.uu.nl [131.211.80.32]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f43Eb0m18817 for ; Thu, 3 May 2001 16:37:00 +0200 Received: from mihoen.cs.uu.nl (mihoen.cs.uu.nl [131.211.80.223]) by mail.cs.uu.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6976F4534; Thu, 3 May 2001 16:36:13 +0200 (MET DST) From: Otfried Cheong To: thanh@informatics.muni.cz, pdftex@tug.org In-reply-to: <20010503152347.C20100@anxur.fi.muni.cz> (message from Han The Thanh on Thu, 3 May 2001 15:23:47 +0200) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: GNU Emacs 20.7.1 References: <20010428223700.4F9D52B460@tug.org> <20010428223700.4F9D52B460@tug.org> <3.0.1.16.20010501133615.098fd49a@localhost> <20010501143224.6771B452A@mail.cs.uu.nl> <20010502094022.F12372@anxur.fi.muni.cz> <20010502114011.01D2E4548@mail.cs.uu.nl> <20010503150035.A18609@anxur.fi.muni.cz> <20010503131748.20DF74533@mail.cs.uu.nl> <20010503152347.C20100@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Message-Id: <20010503143613.6976F4534@mail.cs.uu.nl> Subject: [pdftex] Redundant objects: patch available Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 16:36:13 +0200 (MET DST) As promised earlier, I've made a patch for pdftex 14h which stops it from creating redundant objects when multiple pages are included from an external PDF file. The patch is at http://www.cs.uu.nl/~otfried/Pdftex/patch14h.tar.gz I also fixed a few small bugs that I noticed while working on the code, and stopped pdftex from reading the undocumented configuration file $HOME/.xpdfrc. While I may have introduced new bugs, these should be nicely localized, as I have practically modified only one file. If you find any bugs, please report them to me. For completeness, the README is attached below. Best wishes, Ofried -------------------------------------------------------------------- This is a small patch for pdftex-14h (from 20010417). It fixes a problem with including multiple pages from an external PDF file. Without this patch, the sequence: \includegraphics[page=1]{a.pdf} \includegraphics[page=2]{a.pdf} \includegraphics[page=3]{a.pdf} will include the PDF resources used by pages 1 to 3 in file "a.pdf" once for each page that uses them --- and therefore more than once if resources are shared by pages. Applying this patch fixes the problem. At the same time it removes a hidden dependence on $HOME/.xpdfrc, and fixes another small bug in the PDF embedding code (see below). To apply it, replace the files "image.h", "writeimg.c", and "pdftoepdf.cc" in "src/texk/web2c/pdftexdir" of pdftex-14h by these patched versions, and compile normally. Please report bugs to Otfried Cheong . Fixed bugs: * Dependence on $HOME/.xpdfrc * If page resources contained non-font resources where a value was not an indirect reference, it wasn't copied correctly. * InObj and UsedEncoding were created with new InObj[1] but deleted with delete. _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 4-May-2001 1:36:19-GMT,2163;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA14101 for ; Thu, 3 May 2001 19:36:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 5E1D02AE98; Fri, 4 May 2001 03:37:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f441aTm21441 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 03:36:29 +0200 Received: from remote142-143.home.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.142.143] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 14vUVR-0007Ln-00; Fri, 4 May 2001 03:35:41 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.20010504015550.3cc7e6ec@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) To: Sido Mylius , From: Heiko Oberdiek Subject: Re: [pdftex] psfrag and epstopdf: fonts not showing up In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 01:55:50 +0200 At 16:35 03.05.2001 +0200, Sido Mylius wrote: >P.S. System info: tetex-*-1.0.7-12 with epstopdf 2.5, 1999/05/06, >and acroread-4.05-6 on RedHat Linux. Ensure, you are using not too old versions: * pdfTeX 0.14h * Ghostscript >= 6.01 Yours sincerely Heiko _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 4-May-2001 1:36:49-GMT,2631;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA14110 for ; Thu, 3 May 2001 19:36:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 380962B454; Fri, 4 May 2001 03:37:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f441aVm21445 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 03:36:31 +0200 Received: from remote142-143.home.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.142.143] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 14vUVT-0007Ln-00; Fri, 4 May 2001 03:35:43 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.20010504021352.3dc78e48@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) To: Otfried Cheong , pdftex@tug.org From: Heiko Oberdiek Subject: Re: [pdftex] redundant objects with includegraphics In-Reply-To: <20010502114011.01D2E4548@mail.cs.uu.nl> References: <20010502094022.F12372@anxur.fi.muni.cz> <20010428223700.4F9D52B460@tug.org> <20010428223700.4F9D52B460@tug.org> <3.0.1.16.20010501133615.098fd49a@localhost> <20010501143224.6771B452A@mail.cs.uu.nl> <20010502094022.F12372@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 02:13:52 +0200 At 13:40 02.05.2001 +0200, Otfried Cheong wrote: >I cannot come up with a reason why one would >want to embed the same file multiple times * logos * special characters/symbols, embeded as graphics. * I have lot of extern pdf files with several slides in stamp size on a page. So I extract each "stamp" slide to a readable size and arrange them on a page for printing. ==> All pages of the same file are included several times, the number of slides per page. Yours sincerely Heiko _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 4-May-2001 1:37:32-GMT,2602;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA14116 for ; Thu, 3 May 2001 19:37:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id B9B692B45A; Fri, 4 May 2001 03:37:03 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f441aXm21449 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 03:36:33 +0200 Received: from remote142-143.home.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.142.143] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 14vUVV-0007Ln-00; Fri, 4 May 2001 03:35:45 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.20010504024023.3dc78e48@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) To: Otfried Cheong , pdftex@tug.org From: Heiko Oberdiek Subject: Re: [pdftex] redundant objects with includegraphics In-Reply-To: <20010502120656.2FFDB4548@mail.cs.uu.nl> References: <20010502094022.F12372@anxur.fi.muni.cz> <20010428223700.4F9D52B460@tug.org> <20010428223700.4F9D52B460@tug.org> <3.0.1.16.20010501133615.098fd49a@localhost> <20010501143224.6771B452A@mail.cs.uu.nl> <20010502094022.F12372@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 02:40:23 +0200 At 14:06 02.05.2001 +0200, Otfried Cheong wrote: > > > In any case, 'pdftex.def' does not currently seem to have support > > for including a selected page from a PDF file, and can only include > > single-page documents (or the first page of multi-page documents). > >This was, of course, nonsense - I had been looking at an ancient copy >of 'pdftex.def'. The latest version is available at http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/pdftex.def Yours sincerely Heiko _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 4-May-2001 1:39:00-GMT,2950;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA14122 for ; Thu, 3 May 2001 19:38:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id E35C32B45E; Fri, 4 May 2001 03:37:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f441aam21453 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 03:36:36 +0200 Received: from remote142-143.home.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.142.143] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 14vUVX-0007Ln-00; Fri, 4 May 2001 03:35:47 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.20010504022358.3dc78e48@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) To: Otfried Cheong , sebastian.rahtz@computing-services.oxford.ac.uk From: Heiko Oberdiek Subject: Re: [pdftex] redundant objects with includegraphics Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: <20010502123837.667664548@mail.cs.uu.nl> References: <15087.63831.809682.150006@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> <20010428223700.4F9D52B460@tug.org> <3.0.1.16.20010501133615.098fd49a@localhost> <20010501143224.6771B452A@mail.cs.uu.nl> <20010502094022.F12372@anxur.fi.muni.cz> <20010502114011.01D2E4548@mail.cs.uu.nl> <15087.63831.809682.150006@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 02:23:58 +0200 At 14:38 02.05.2001 +0200, Otfried Cheong wrote: > > \includegraphics[page=1,cache=3]{a.pdf} > \includegraphics[page=2]{a.pdf} > \includegraphics[page=3]{a.pdf} > >The 'cache' option asks for the embedding of three pages, starting >with page 1. No, I think it is not a good idea. A typical user would not see a reason to use the option "cache". A lot of explanation has to be written to explain this an user, but users do not read documentation. Why pdfTeX cannot collect the pages of the same included file and adds only the needed resources at the end of the pdfTeX run. Then an end user has not to deal with extra commands "\pdfembed" or extra options "cache". Yours sincerely Heiko _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 4-May-2001 1:49:58-GMT,3087;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA14206 for ; Thu, 3 May 2001 19:49:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id AC3D12B462; Fri, 4 May 2001 03:37:05 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f441adm21457 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 03:36:39 +0200 Received: from remote142-143.home.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.142.143] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 14vUVZ-0007Ln-00; Fri, 4 May 2001 03:35:49 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.20010504023917.3dc745dc@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) To: Otfried Cheong , Robin.Fairbairns@cl.cam.ac.uk From: Heiko Oberdiek Subject: Re: [pdftex] redundant objects with includegraphics Cc: amat@kabsi.at, pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: <20010502132310.0D74E454F@mail.cs.uu.nl> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 02:39:17 +0200 At 15:23 02.05.2001 +0200, Otfried Cheong wrote: > > > isn't that what pdfpages does? i've never looked at its insides. > >'pdfpages' is built on top of 'graphicx', so it suffers from the same >resource duplication. Which is probably the reason why Andreas asked >about it in the first place :-) > >Speaking about 'pdfpages', I suggest that while we are at it, we add a >primitive "\pdflastximagerotation" to return the value of the /Rotate >page attribute of an included PDF page. It would allow 'pdfpages' to >rotate them back the way they are supposed to look. Yes. But more important is, how can someone get the number of pages? * Currently I scan the pdf file for /Count entries and assume the maximum is the page number. * This week I have learned about \pdflastximagepages. But is there a more elegant way than \begingroup \sbox0{\includegraphics{foo.pdf}}% \xdef\foopages{\the\pdflastximagepages}% \endgroup Result: foo.pdf has \foopages\ page(s). ... \includepdf[pages=1-\foopages]{foo.pdf} Yours sincerely Heiko _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 4-May-2001 8:18:23-GMT,3590;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA17153 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 02:18:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 8EB742AE8B; Fri, 4 May 2001 10:19:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.cs.uu.nl (sunset.cs.uu.nl [131.211.80.32]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f448Ilm23060 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 10:18:52 +0200 Received: from mihoen.cs.uu.nl (mihoen.cs.uu.nl [131.211.80.223]) by mail.cs.uu.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29D2D4523; Fri, 4 May 2001 10:18:00 +0200 (MET DST) From: Otfried Cheong To: oberdiek@ruf.uni-freiburg.de Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-reply-to: <3.0.1.16.20010504021352.3dc78e48@localhost> (message from Heiko Oberdiek on Fri, 04 May 2001 02:13:52 +0200) Subject: Re: [pdftex] redundant objects with includegraphics MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: GNU Emacs 20.7.1 References: <20010502094022.F12372@anxur.fi.muni.cz> <20010428223700.4F9D52B460@tug.org> <20010428223700.4F9D52B460@tug.org> <3.0.1.16.20010501133615.098fd49a@localhost> <20010501143224.6771B452A@mail.cs.uu.nl> <20010502094022.F12372@anxur.fi.muni.cz> <3.0.1.16.20010504021352.3dc78e48@localhost> Message-Id: <20010504081800.29D2D4523@mail.cs.uu.nl> Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 10:18:00 +0200 (MET DST) > >I cannot come up with a reason why one would > >want to embed the same file multiple times > > * logos > * special characters/symbols, embeded as graphics. > [...] These are all examples for wanting to *use* an embedded image several times, not for wanting to embed it several times. > No, I think it is not a good idea. A typical user would > not see a reason to use the option "cache". A lot of > explanation has to be written to explain this an user, > but users do not read documentation. Exactly. In case it wasn't clear from my description, the patch I've put up does not define a new primitive, and does not require any changes in macro packages or user's code. It simply fixes the problem in pdftex. > * This week I have learned about \pdflastximagepages. But is there > a more elegant way than > \begingroup > \sbox0{\includegraphics{foo.pdf}}% > \xdef\foopages{\the\pdflastximagepages}% > \endgroup > Result: foo.pdf has \foopages\ page(s). > ... > \includepdf[pages=1-\foopages]{foo.pdf} I would just use the \pdximage primitive directly (not that it's a big improvement): \xpdfimage{foo.pdf}\def\foopages{\the\pdflastximagepages}% Result: foo.pdf has \foopages\ page(s). ... \includepdf[pages=1-\foopages]{foo.pdf} Or, even better, ask Andreas to use the primitive in "pdfpages" itself, so that the above code becomes: \includepdf[pages=1-]{foo.pdf} :-) Otfried _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 4-May-2001 11:07:18-GMT,3514;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA18007 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 05:07:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 0349C2AE93; Fri, 4 May 2001 13:08:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from hal.kabsi.at (charme.kabsi.at [195.202.128.72]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f44B7em23969 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 13:07:40 +0200 Received: from gobin (cm.med.3284842061.kabelnet.net [195.202.182.77]) by hal.kabsi.at (8.10.2/) with SMTP id f44B6PD0001514178; Fri, 4 May 2001 13:06:26 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <001101c0d48a$925b3480$4db6cac3@kabsi.at> From: "Andreas Matthias" To: "Otfried Cheong" , References: <20010428223700.4F9D52B460@tug.org> <20010428223700.4F9D52B460@tug.org> <3.0.1.16.20010501133615.098fd49a@localhost> <20010501143224.6771B452A@mail.cs.uu.nl> <20010502094022.F12372@anxur.fi.muni.cz> <20010502114011.01D2E4548@mail.cs.uu.nl> <20010503150035.A18609@anxur.fi.muni.cz> <20010503131748.20DF74533@mail.cs.uu.nl> <20010503152347.C20100@anxur.fi.muni.cz> <20010503143613.6976F4534@mail.cs.uu.nl> Subject: Re: [pdftex] Redundant objects: patch available MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 13:08:38 +0200 From: "Otfried Cheong" > As promised earlier, I've made a patch for pdftex 14h which stops it > from creating redundant objects when multiple pages are included from > an external PDF file. The patch is at > > http://www.cs.uu.nl/~otfried/Pdftex/patch14h.tar.gz Hey, this is marvelous. I have just compiled it and did a few tests. As one example I included the whole Adobe PDF Reference: \documentclass[a4paper]{article} \usepackage{pdfpages} \begin{document} \includepdf[pages=1-696]{PDFRef.pdf} \end{document} The file size of the pdf file (test-14h.pdf) created with pdftex 0.14h was out of question. The file (test-14hpatch.pdf) created with the Ofrieds patch is even smaller than the pdf file from Adobe. Seems like Adobe has some duplicated resources in their files. Now pdftex is first :-) -rwxrwxr-x 1 andreas andreas 4310705 May 4 11:40 PDFRef.pdf -rw-rw-r-- 1 andreas andreas 3446268 May 4 12:22 test-14hpatch.pdf -rw-rw-r-- 1 andreas andreas 43566775 May 4 11:45 test-14h.pdf Another surprise: The running time also decreases a lot with Otfrieds patch. # time pdflatex test.tex 14h: 2m58.318s 14hpatch: 0m19.447s This is fantastic. Thank you, Otfried! Best regards, Andreas _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 4-May-2001 11:19:22-GMT,2783;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA18063 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 05:19:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id D3BCF2AE8C; Fri, 4 May 2001 13:20:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from hal.kabsi.at (charme.kabsi.at [195.202.128.72]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f44BJlm24085 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 13:19:47 +0200 Received: from gobin (cm.med.3284842061.kabelnet.net [195.202.182.77]) by hal.kabsi.at (8.10.2/) with SMTP id f44BHJD0001516879; Fri, 4 May 2001 13:17:19 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <002301c0d48c$17f954e0$4db6cac3@kabsi.at> From: "Andreas Matthias" To: "Otfried Cheong" , Cc: References: <20010502094022.F12372@anxur.fi.muni.cz> <20010428223700.4F9D52B460@tug.org> <20010428223700.4F9D52B460@tug.org> <3.0.1.16.20010501133615.098fd49a@localhost> <20010501143224.6771B452A@mail.cs.uu.nl> <20010502094022.F12372@anxur.fi.muni.cz> <3.0.1.16.20010504021352.3dc78e48@localhost> <20010504081800.29D2D4523@mail.cs.uu.nl> Subject: Re: [pdftex] redundant objects with includegraphics MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 13:19:32 +0200 From: "Otfried Cheong" > I would just use the \pdximage primitive directly (not that it's a big > improvement): > > \xpdfimage{foo.pdf}\def\foopages{\the\pdflastximagepages}% > Result: foo.pdf has \foopages\ page(s). > ... > \includepdf[pages=1-\foopages]{foo.pdf} > > Or, even better, ask Andreas to use the primitive in "pdfpages" > itself, so that the above code becomes: > > \includepdf[pages=1-]{foo.pdf} :-) I will. I just didn't kown the primitive \pdflastximagepages before you mentioned it in this thread. Greetings, Andreas _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 4-May-2001 11:50:19-GMT,4151;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA18202 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 05:50:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id C56E22AE8B; Fri, 4 May 2001 13:51:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.cs.uu.nl (sunset.cs.uu.nl [131.211.80.32]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f44Bobm24257 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 13:50:37 +0200 Received: from mihoen.cs.uu.nl (mihoen.cs.uu.nl [131.211.80.223]) by mail.cs.uu.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1368451D; Fri, 4 May 2001 13:49:49 +0200 (MET DST) From: Otfried Cheong To: amat@kabsi.at Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-reply-to: <001101c0d48a$925b3480$4db6cac3@kabsi.at> (amat@kabsi.at) Subject: Re: [pdftex] Redundant objects: patch available MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: GNU Emacs 20.7.1 References: <20010428223700.4F9D52B460@tug.org> <20010428223700.4F9D52B460@tug.org> <3.0.1.16.20010501133615.098fd49a@localhost> <20010501143224.6771B452A@mail.cs.uu.nl> <20010502094022.F12372@anxur.fi.muni.cz> <20010502114011.01D2E4548@mail.cs.uu.nl> <20010503150035.A18609@anxur.fi.muni.cz> <20010503131748.20DF74533@mail.cs.uu.nl> <20010503152347.C20100@anxur.fi.muni.cz> <20010503143613.6976F4534@mail.cs.uu.nl> <001101c0d48a$925b3480$4db6cac3@kabsi.at> Message-Id: <20010504114949.D1368451D@mail.cs.uu.nl> Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 13:49:49 +0200 (MET DST) Andreas writes: > Hey, this is marvelous. I have just compiled it and did a few > tests. As one example I included the whole Adobe PDF Reference: > > \documentclass[a4paper]{article} > \usepackage{pdfpages} > \begin{document} > \includepdf[pages=1-696]{PDFRef.pdf} > \end{document} Perhaps not so surprisingly, this is one of the exact tests I did myself :-) > The file (test-14hpatch.pdf) created with the Ofrieds patch is even > smaller than the pdf file from Adobe. Seems like Adobe has some > duplicated resources in their files. Now pdftex is first :-) Before you jump to conclusions about Adobe's PDF generators: If PDFRef.pdf contains duplicated resources, those wouldn't be merged by pdftex. My patch stops resources from being embedded more than once, it does not actively search for things to merge... There are several possible reasons why test-14hpatch.pdf is nearly a megabyte smaller than PDFRef.pdf. Remember, objects are only copied if they are referenced (directly or indirectly) from a page of the document. (1) There could be unused objects. (2) Document outlines, thumbnails, threads and named destinations are not copied. (PDFRef.pdf contains lots of names links, one per page, figure, table, etc., occupying a total of about 400kB.) (3) Known Type1 fonts are embedded by pdftex itself, so if the document contains extra resources for these, they are not copied. This explains why the "ToUnicode" resource of these fonts is lost. (4) The hint tables of linearized PDF are lost (and the output is of course not linearized). (5) Framemaker might embed additional information for its own use. (6) There could be a bug in the copying code :-) I still don't know exactly where the missing megabyte went. I think I'll have to write a small tool to compute PDF statistics (how many bytes in what kind of data). Otfried _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 4-May-2001 11:57:23-GMT,4207;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA18247 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 05:57:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id CD2C32B44B; Fri, 4 May 2001 13:58:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f44Bvkm24365 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 13:57:46 +0200 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA09726; Fri, 4 May 2001 13:56:59 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA08621; Fri, 4 May 2001 13:56:47 +0200 (MET DST) From: Han The Thanh To: Otfried Cheong Cc: pdfTeX Subject: Re: [pdftex] Redundant objects: patch available Message-ID: <20010504135646.C7381@anxur.fi.muni.cz> References: <3.0.1.16.20010501133615.098fd49a@localhost> <20010501143224.6771B452A@mail.cs.uu.nl> <20010502094022.F12372@anxur.fi.muni.cz> <20010502114011.01D2E4548@mail.cs.uu.nl> <20010503150035.A18609@anxur.fi.muni.cz> <20010503131748.20DF74533@mail.cs.uu.nl> <20010503152347.C20100@anxur.fi.muni.cz> <20010503143613.6976F4534@mail.cs.uu.nl> <001101c0d48a$925b3480$4db6cac3@kabsi.at> <20010504114949.D1368451D@mail.cs.uu.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20010504114949.D1368451D@mail.cs.uu.nl>; from otfried@cs.uu.nl on Fri, May 04, 2001 at 01:49:49PM +0200 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 13:56:46 +0200 > > The file (test-14hpatch.pdf) created with the Ofrieds patch is even > > smaller than the pdf file from Adobe. Seems like Adobe has some > > duplicated resources in their files. Now pdftex is first :-) > > Before you jump to conclusions about Adobe's PDF generators: If > PDFRef.pdf contains duplicated resources, those wouldn't be merged by > pdftex. My patch stops resources from being embedded more than once, > it does not actively search for things to merge... > > There are several possible reasons why test-14hpatch.pdf is nearly a > megabyte smaller than PDFRef.pdf. Remember, objects are only copied > if they are referenced (directly or indirectly) from a page of the > document. > > (1) There could be unused objects. > > (2) Document outlines, thumbnails, threads and named destinations > are not copied. (PDFRef.pdf contains lots of names links, one > per page, figure, table, etc., occupying a total of about > 400kB.) > > (3) Known Type1 fonts are embedded by pdftex itself, so if the > document contains extra resources for these, they are not > copied. This explains why the "ToUnicode" resource of these > fonts is lost. > > (4) The hint tables of linearized PDF are lost (and the output is of > course not linearized). > > (5) Framemaker might embed additional information for its own use. > > (6) There could be a bug in the copying code :-) > > I still don't know exactly where the missing megabyte went. I think > I'll have to write a small tool to compute PDF statistics (how many > bytes in what kind of data). the pdf spec is quite a `rich' pdf with a lot of outlines, annotations and the likes. I think the amount these elements occupy can be quite a lot (400KB seems too small). Regards, Thanh _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 4-May-2001 12:45:18-GMT,2559;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA18522 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 06:45:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 833522AE8C; Fri, 4 May 2001 14:46:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fw1b.telekom.de (gw1.telekom.de [194.25.15.11]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f44CjLm24812 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 14:45:21 +0200 Received: by fw1b.telekom.de; (5.65v4.0/1.3/10May95) id AA07880; Fri, 4 May 2001 14:44:28 +0200 Received: from Q9J99.mgb01.telekom.de by U9JWN.mgb01.telekom.de with ESMTP for pdftex@tug.org; Fri, 4 May 2001 14:44:24 +0200 Received: from g9jbr.mgb01.telekom.de by Q9J99.mgb01.telekom.de with ESMTP for pdftex@tug.org; Fri, 4 May 2001 14:44:14 +0200 Received: by G9JBR.mgb01.telekom.de with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 4 May 2001 14:44:09 +0200 Message-Id: <5162929694EBD411A5E400034707B0EE7B7C73@U9JM8.mgb01.telekom.de> From: Matthias.Will@t-systems.de To: pdftex@tug.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Subject: [pdftex] Can't get off this list Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 14:44:13 +0200 Hi, I receive the messages of this list via my subscription under my old e-mail address will@informatik.uni-freiburg.de I tried at least twice to get off this list, following the steps in the welcome mail message, since my focus of interest has slightly changed, but every time I get an automatic reply after two to five days that my message couldn't be sent to the automatic mail processor. FYI, I tried to get off via my old account associated via the email address above. Could you please remove me manually, if possible? Thank you very much and best regards, Matthias O. Will _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 4-May-2001 13:05:53-GMT,4646;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA18702 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 07:05:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 7C0C92AE8B; Fri, 4 May 2001 14:59:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.cs.uu.nl (sunset.cs.uu.nl [131.211.80.32]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f44Cw2m24933 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 14:58:02 +0200 Received: from mihoen.cs.uu.nl (mihoen.cs.uu.nl [131.211.80.223]) by mail.cs.uu.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 154CF453D; Fri, 4 May 2001 14:57:15 +0200 (MET DST) From: Otfried Cheong To: pdftex@tug.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: GNU Emacs 20.7.1 Message-Id: <20010504125715.154CF453D@mail.cs.uu.nl> Subject: [pdftex] Generating CJK in PDF Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 14:57:15 +0200 (MET DST) I'm sure I've already exceeded my quota for posting on this list for this week, but let me ask a few questions about a quite different topic. I promise not to post as much next week :-) Currently it is not really possible to produce CJK PDF files with pdftex. Certainly one can use Werner's CJK package, or hlatex etc., using several Type1 8bit fonts to cover a single 16bit font. But the resulting PDF files are essentially encrypted - it is possible to view and print them, but one cannot copy and paste, or search for text in the file, because the viewer has no idea what the character codes mean. It is also currently not possible to use embedded TTF fonts for CJK text, as there is no easily available tool for splitting a CJK TTF font into the 8bit pieces used by CJK. (One can split-convert the TTF fonts into Type1 fonts, though.) "Real" CJK PDF files would use CIDkeyed composite fonts in a well-known standard encoding from Adobe's CMap repertoire, and 16bit encoded strings in content streams. Is any work under way to enable pdftex to create such output? If not, is it desirable, and what would be the right way to do it? Here is a possible design: Extend the syntax of font map files with the same subsetting implemented by ttf2tfm: ntukai@@ ntukai.ttf This would define TeX fonts ntukai01, ntukai02, ... etc, as specified by the , and one would have to provide .tfm files for all these subfonts. One would, however, not have to actually split ntukai.ttf into pieces. pdftex would know that all the TeX font subsets are parts of a single TTF font, and how the 8-bit character codes map into the full font. It would use 16bit character codes in content streams referring to the font, and would embed (possibly a subset of) ntukai.ttf as a single CIDkeyed font. One would not need to change the existing macro packages at all, but would generate real 16bit output. This extension is not trivial and would take quite some work, but there don't seem to be fundamental obstacles. But is it worth it? Note that, as an alternative, one could also write a postprocessor. It would be quite non-trivial, though, as it would actually have to parse page content streams to change the character encoding. There is a much simpler route to enabling copy-and-paste and text searching, at least in theory: one can add a "ToUnicode" character map to each of the subfonts. Viewers that correctly implement the PDF specification should then be able to provide search and copy. But does this really work in practice? Xpdf certainly does not support it. Does it work using Acrobat Reader on Chinese Windows, or Hangul Windows? Does Acrobat Reader for Linux actually have any support for it? If it works, this would be quite easy to implement. The resulting PDF files would still only use 8bit fonts internally, but the user wouldn't notice that, and so it probably wouldn't matter too much. If it works :-) Otfried _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 4-May-2001 13:11:31-GMT,2328;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA18776 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 07:11:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id A596C2B456; Fri, 4 May 2001 15:07:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from nx5.HRZ.Uni-Dortmund.DE (nx5.HRZ.Uni-Dortmund.DE [129.217.131.21]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f44D6nm25006 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 15:06:52 +0200 Received: from sx2.hrz.uni-dortmund.de by nx5.HRZ.Uni-Dortmund.DE via smtp-local with ESMTP; Fri, 4 May 2001 15:06:00 +0200 Received: from rigel.univie.ac.at (dial-143187.HRZ.Uni-Dortmund.DE [129.217.143.187]) by sx2.hrz.uni-dortmund.de (8.10.2+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f44D5XB13971 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 15:05:53 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from localhost (sx0005@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rigel.univie.ac.at (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA22079 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 14:41:34 +0200 Message-Id: <20010504.144133.42460511.wl@gnu.org> To: pdftex@tug.org From: Werner LEMBERG X-Mailer: Mew version 1.95b99 on Emacs 21.0.103.4 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [pdftex] `store' keyword. Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 14:41:33 +0200 (CEST) Some Korean Type 1 subfonts have the following in the dvips config file: pkol0 HangulMyoungjoA-Regular " /PaintType 2 store " Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA18857 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 07:21:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 85BF42B44A; Fri, 4 May 2001 15:12:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp8.xs4all.nl (smtp8.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.134]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f44DBKm25044 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 15:11:20 +0200 Received: from server-1.pragma-ade.nl (s340-isdn1941.dial.xs4all.nl [194.109.187.149]) by smtp8.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA00895; Fri, 4 May 2001 15:10:31 +0200 (CEST) Received: from laptop-1 (laptop-1.pragma-ade.nl [200.1.1.25]) by server-1.pragma-ade.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA07097; Fri, 4 May 2001 15:02:12 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20010504144315.01a9fc60@server-1> X-Sender: hagen@server-1 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) To: "Carsten Schurig" From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: [pdftex] char protruding Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: <20010428201141.24812.qmail@gmx.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.daimi.au.dk id f44DBKm25044 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 14:43:15 +0200 At 10:11 PM 4/28/01 +0200, Carsten Schurig wrote: >Hi, > >I've got a new "problem" concerning the char protruding feature. >I'm using SIunits.sty and there is at one point an 180° at the end >of the line. And I think the degree should poke into the margin. > >But I don't know how to get this -- even worse: is it possible to >make an automated protruding for such a construct? The degree of >SIunits is defined as follows: > \ensuremath{^{\circ}} You explicitly have to set up the font that provides the degrees symbol to let that symbol to stick into the margin (the latest pdftex relates the factor to 1em so some calculations are needed to set the max value). Of course math thingies can get into the way. Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma@wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 4-May-2001 13:26:05-GMT,3426;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA18894 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 07:26:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 771702B464; Fri, 4 May 2001 15:12:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp8.xs4all.nl (smtp8.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.134]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f44DBNm25048 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 15:11:23 +0200 Received: from server-1.pragma-ade.nl (s340-isdn1941.dial.xs4all.nl [194.109.187.149]) by smtp8.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA00906; Fri, 4 May 2001 15:10:34 +0200 (CEST) Received: from laptop-1 (laptop-1.pragma-ade.nl [200.1.1.25]) by server-1.pragma-ade.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA07095; Fri, 4 May 2001 15:02:11 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20010504143241.018aa8b0@server-1> X-Sender: hagen@server-1 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) To: "Andreas Matthias" From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: [pdftex] redundant objects with includegraphics Cc: In-Reply-To: <003101c0d25b$7c525000$4db6cac3@kabsi.at> References: <20010428223700.4F9D52B460@tug.org> <20010428223700.4F9D52B460@tug.org> <3.0.1.16.20010501133615.098fd49a@localhost> <20010501143224.6771B452A@mail.cs.uu.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 14:32:41 +0200 At 06:26 PM 5/1/01 +0200, Andreas Matthias wrote: >From: "Otfried Cheong" > >> If one were really ambitious, one could extend my suggestion to a >> format that would handle arbitrary subsets of pages, such as: >> >> \pdfximage page 17 {a.pdf} >> \pdfximage page 17-42 {a.pdf} >> \pdfximage page 1-12,24,40-42 {a.pdf} >> \pdfximage page * {a.pdf} This kind of extensions is up to macros, where primitives provide building blocks. One can easily redefine \pdfximage in tex itself (at the macro level) for this purpose. Once this kind of higher level support starts entering the tex kernel we're kind of lost. Also, keep in mind that - , * can have non standard catcodes and that n-m and * are (yet) unknown tex concepts. [Actually, here for some time i use macros for including ranges and use : instead of - so range specifiers should then be configurable too]. Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma@wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 4-May-2001 13:33:24-GMT,4271;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA18960 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 07:33:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 3EAB52B468; Fri, 4 May 2001 15:12:03 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp8.xs4all.nl (smtp8.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.134]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f44DBQm25052 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 15:11:26 +0200 Received: from server-1.pragma-ade.nl (s340-isdn1941.dial.xs4all.nl [194.109.187.149]) by smtp8.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA00917; Fri, 4 May 2001 15:10:36 +0200 (CEST) Received: from laptop-1 (laptop-1.pragma-ade.nl [200.1.1.25]) by server-1.pragma-ade.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA07098; Fri, 4 May 2001 15:02:12 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20010504145007.01aa2740@server-1> X-Sender: hagen@server-1 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) To: cswingle@iarc.uaf.edu (Christopher S. Swingley) From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: [pdftex] Metapost and PDF files Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: <20010428132024.A9312@iarc.uaf.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 14:50:07 +0200 At 01:20 PM 4/28/01 -0800, Christopher S. Swingley wrote: >Hi! > >I'm having a devil of a time trying to figure out how to use Metapost >in combination with PDFTeX and Ghostscript. I believe the problem is >that I want to use the Computer Modern fonts in my figures, but the >only program that seems to understand how to deal with these fonts >is dvips. I can put 'prologues:=1;' at the top of my *.mp file, >but then I get fonts that won't match the rest of my document. > >What I'm trying to accomplish is the creation of figures with Metapost >that I can use in LaTeX or TeX files, for the generation of PostScript >and PDF files. Right now the only thing I can get to work is to >include the figures in a TeX document, run it, then turn it into >PostScript using dvips. But I can't get a PDF file using any method >beyond ps2pdf (which is a raster version of the PostScript file and >doesn't look very good). xdvi also displays a poor quality version >of the figures when I preview the dvi file. > >I've loaded the Computer Modern fonts into ghostscript so it can >read them by doing: gs prfont.ps, and then typing GS> /cmr10 DoFont, >but Ghostscript doesn't seem to know what to make of the fonts in the >Metapost figure files (gs: Error: /undefined in cmr10, gs: Operand >stack: (1)). I lost track of the answers on this mail, but including mp output into pdftex does demand anything special: just include the graphic, either using yoru macro package higher level interface (probably using mps as extension or type) or using \convertMPtoPDF{name}{1}{1} which takes care of all fonts [given that they have entries in the pdftex map file]. If you want an proper eps, you can use mptopdf to produce a stand alone graphic. If you want inclusion in a dvi file, keep in mind that mpoutput is rather tuned for dvips. However, there are tricks around this [we apply these when using for instance dvipsone] Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma@wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 4-May-2001 13:35:58-GMT,3064;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA18996 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 07:35:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 031692B454; Fri, 4 May 2001 14:23:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.cs.uu.nl (sunset.cs.uu.nl [131.211.80.32]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f44CMYm24558 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 14:22:34 +0200 Received: from mihoen.cs.uu.nl (mihoen.cs.uu.nl [131.211.80.223]) by mail.cs.uu.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75519451B; Fri, 4 May 2001 14:21:47 +0200 (MET DST) From: Otfried Cheong To: thanh@informatics.muni.cz Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-reply-to: <20010504135646.C7381@anxur.fi.muni.cz> (message from Han The Thanh on Fri, 4 May 2001 13:56:46 +0200) Subject: Re: [pdftex] Redundant objects: patch available MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: GNU Emacs 20.7.1 References: <3.0.1.16.20010501133615.098fd49a@localhost> <20010501143224.6771B452A@mail.cs.uu.nl> <20010502094022.F12372@anxur.fi.muni.cz> <20010502114011.01D2E4548@mail.cs.uu.nl> <20010503150035.A18609@anxur.fi.muni.cz> <20010503131748.20DF74533@mail.cs.uu.nl> <20010503152347.C20100@anxur.fi.muni.cz> <20010503143613.6976F4534@mail.cs.uu.nl> <001101c0d48a$925b3480$4db6cac3@kabsi.at> <20010504114949.D1368451D@mail.cs.uu.nl> <20010504135646.C7381@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Message-Id: <20010504122147.75519451B@mail.cs.uu.nl> Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 14:21:47 +0200 (MET DST) > > I still don't know exactly where the missing megabyte went. I think > > I'll have to write a small tool to compute PDF statistics (how many > > bytes in what kind of data). > > the pdf spec is quite a `rich' pdf with a lot of outlines, annotations and > the likes. I think the amount these elements occupy can be quite a lot > (400KB seems too small). The 400kB number I mentioned was only for the named links. I measured the size of the /Dests name tree. Outlines don't take much space, they are only 75kB for this file. But I indeed forgot about the link annotations. A single link takes about 125 bytes, and there are easily 5 per page on average (much more on the table of contents pages). That easily accounts for the missing space. Otfried _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 4-May-2001 14:02:19-GMT,3468;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA19242 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 08:02:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 83B3A2AE99; Fri, 4 May 2001 16:03:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f44E2im25387 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 16:02:44 +0200 Received: from remote142-17.home.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.142.17] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 14vg9b-0006kL-00; Fri, 4 May 2001 16:01:55 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.20010504152004.346ff594@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) To: Otfried Cheong From: Heiko Oberdiek Subject: Re: [pdftex] redundant objects with includegraphics Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: <20010504081800.29D2D4523@mail.cs.uu.nl> References: <3.0.1.16.20010504021352.3dc78e48@localhost> <20010502094022.F12372@anxur.fi.muni.cz> <20010428223700.4F9D52B460@tug.org> <20010428223700.4F9D52B460@tug.org> <3.0.1.16.20010501133615.098fd49a@localhost> <20010501143224.6771B452A@mail.cs.uu.nl> <20010502094022.F12372@anxur.fi.muni.cz> <3.0.1.16.20010504021352.3dc78e48@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 15:20:04 +0200 At 10:18 04.05.2001 +0200, Otfried Cheong wrote: > >[...] the patch I've >put up does not define a new primitive, and does not require any >changes in macro packages or user's code. It simply fixes the problem >in pdftex. Good. > > * This week I have learned about \pdflastximagepages. But is there > > a more elegant way than > > \begingroup > > \sbox0{\includegraphics{foo.pdf}}% > > \xdef\foopages{\the\pdflastximagepages}% > > \endgroup > > Result: foo.pdf has \foopages\ page(s). > > ... > > \includepdf[pages=1-\foopages]{foo.pdf} > >I would just use the \pdximage primitive directly (not that it's a big >improvement): > >\xpdfimage{foo.pdf}\def\foopages{\the\pdflastximagepages}% With \includegraphics, the referenced number will be reused, if the first page is embeded later. Or only other pages are used, or the pdf file will not embedded at all. So the question is, what is the best strategy for getting the number of pages? >Or, even better, ask Andreas to use the primitive in "pdfpages" >itself, so that the above code becomes: > >\includepdf[pages=1-]{foo.pdf} :-) Yes :-) (But somehow Andreas has to get number of pages--therefore the question above.) Yours sincerely Heiko _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 4-May-2001 14:07:20-GMT,2758;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA19301 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 08:07:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 38A082B464; Fri, 4 May 2001 16:08:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from tibre.ujf-grenoble.fr (tibre.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.238.31]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f44E7hm25495 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 16:07:43 +0200 Received: from mozart.ujf-grenoble.Fr (mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.241.5]) by tibre.ujf-grenoble.fr (Pro-8.9.3/8.9.3/Configured by AD & JE 25/10/1999) with ESMTP id QAA13403; Fri, 4 May 2001 16:06:50 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from bouche@localhost) by mozart.ujf-grenoble.Fr (8.9.3/8.8.5) id QAA23937; Fri, 4 May 2001 16:06:34 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <200105041406.QAA23937@mozart.ujf-grenoble.Fr> From: Thierry Bouche To: Werner LEMBERG Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] `store' keyword. In-Reply-To: <20010504.144133.42460511.wl@gnu.org> References: <20010504.144133.42460511.wl@gnu.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.22 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 16:06:34 +0200 (MET DST) Concernant « [pdftex] `store' keyword. », Werner LEMBERG écrit : « » » Some Korean Type 1 subfonts have the following in the dvips config » file: » » pkol0 HangulMyoungjoA-Regular " /PaintType 2 store " Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA19412 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 08:16:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 277712B456; Fri, 4 May 2001 16:17:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.cs.uu.nl (sunset.cs.uu.nl [131.211.80.32]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f44EGfm25670 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 16:16:41 +0200 Received: from mihoen.cs.uu.nl (mihoen.cs.uu.nl [131.211.80.223]) by mail.cs.uu.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7EE2451D; Fri, 4 May 2001 16:15:51 +0200 (MET DST) From: Otfried Cheong To: oberdiek@ruf.uni-freiburg.de Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-reply-to: <3.0.1.16.20010504152004.346ff594@localhost> (message from Heiko Oberdiek on Fri, 04 May 2001 15:20:04 +0200) Subject: Re: [pdftex] redundant objects with includegraphics MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: GNU Emacs 20.7.1 References: <3.0.1.16.20010504021352.3dc78e48@localhost> <20010502094022.F12372@anxur.fi.muni.cz> <20010428223700.4F9D52B460@tug.org> <20010428223700.4F9D52B460@tug.org> <3.0.1.16.20010501133615.098fd49a@localhost> <20010501143224.6771B452A@mail.cs.uu.nl> <20010502094022.F12372@anxur.fi.muni.cz> <3.0.1.16.20010504021352.3dc78e48@localhost> <3.0.1.16.20010504152004.346ff594@localhost> Message-Id: <20010504141552.E7EE2451D@mail.cs.uu.nl> Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 16:15:52 +0200 (MET DST) > > > * This week I have learned about \pdflastximagepages. But is there > > > a more elegant way than > > > \begingroup > > > \sbox0{\includegraphics{foo.pdf}}% > > > \xdef\foopages{\the\pdflastximagepages}% > > > \endgroup > > > Result: foo.pdf has \foopages\ page(s). > > > ... > > > \includepdf[pages=1-\foopages]{foo.pdf} > > > >I would just use the \pdximage primitive directly (not that it's a big > >improvement): > > > >\xpdfimage{foo.pdf}\def\foopages{\the\pdflastximagepages}% > > With \includegraphics, the referenced number will be reused, > if the first page is embeded later. Or only other pages > are used, or the pdf file will not embedded at all. So the > question is, what is the best strategy for getting the > number of pages? Either form is fine. The first page will only be embedded if you really put it in the paper. If you use \xpdfimage directly, it will create an internal 'ximage' slot, which would not be reused (even if you include page 1 later), but which would never create any PDF output. If you use \includegraphics, \includegraphics calls both \pdfximage and \pdfrefximage. The latter creates a whatsit node that ends up in box0, which is discarded immediately -- and so nothing ends up in the PDF output. Using \includegraphics saves one 'ximage' slot if and only if you actually include page 1. On the other hand, it defines three macros for its internal cache. Since neither 'ximage' slots nor macros are scarce resources, I don't think it really matters. Otfried _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 4-May-2001 15:11:20-GMT,3425;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA20025 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 09:11:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 51C402AE8C; Fri, 4 May 2001 17:12:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp9.xs4all.nl (smtp9.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.135]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f44FBem26009 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 17:11:41 +0200 Received: from server-1.pragma-ade.nl (s340-isdn2167.dial.xs4all.nl [194.109.188.119]) by smtp9.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA28605; Fri, 4 May 2001 17:10:52 +0200 (CEST) Received: from laptop-1 (laptop-1.pragma-ade.nl [200.1.1.25]) by server-1.pragma-ade.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA08285; Fri, 4 May 2001 17:09:55 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20010504170526.019ad6c0@server-1> X-Sender: hagen@server-1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) To: Han The Thanh From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: [pdftex] redundant objects with includegraphics Cc: pdfTeX In-Reply-To: <20010503150035.A18609@anxur.fi.muni.cz> References: <20010428223700.4F9D52B460@tug.org> <20010428223700.4F9D52B460@tug.org> <3.0.1.16.20010501133615.098fd49a@localhost> <20010501143224.6771B452A@mail.cs.uu.nl> <20010502094022.F12372@anxur.fi.muni.cz> <20010502114011.01D2E4548@mail.cs.uu.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 17:05:26 +0200 At 03:00 PM 5/3/01 +0200, Han The Thanh wrote: >Hi, > > >> if I do it, I would try to keep track of all copied objects from pdf >> images. Each pdf image would have a list of all objects that have been >> copied from the image. Images that have the same file name would share >> their object list. When an object is being copied, its number is checked >> whether it has been copied yet to avoid duplicates. This way only needed >> objects are copied and just once. The penalty might be in the running time, >> but I really doubt it matters. The rest like syntax & use with >> \includegraphics remains tha same. > >I have been thinking more of this issue and it seems to be quite feasible >to do so. If you didn't start yet I will give a try. Maybe some font dicts can also be 'shared' this way, Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma@wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 4-May-2001 15:12:01-GMT,3446;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA20033 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 09:11:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 43A472B461; Fri, 4 May 2001 17:12:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp9.xs4all.nl (smtp9.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.135]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f44FBfm26013 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 17:11:41 +0200 Received: from server-1.pragma-ade.nl (s340-isdn2167.dial.xs4all.nl [194.109.188.119]) by smtp9.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA28625; Fri, 4 May 2001 17:10:53 +0200 (CEST) Received: from laptop-1 (laptop-1.pragma-ade.nl [200.1.1.25]) by server-1.pragma-ade.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA08280; Fri, 4 May 2001 17:09:54 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20010504164540.019a3ba0@server-1> X-Sender: hagen@server-1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) To: Otfried Cheong From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: [pdftex] Generating CJK in PDF Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: <20010504125715.154CF453D@mail.cs.uu.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 16:45:40 +0200 At 02:57 PM 5/4/01 +0200, Otfried Cheong wrote: >Currently it is not really possible to produce CJK PDF files with >pdftex. Certainly one can use Werner's CJK package, or hlatex etc., pdftex can comfortably make files with chinese fonts since they are just fonts, you can even use those huge truetypo fonts; it's mostly a matter of generating the right enc files [for which there are tools]. >One would, however, not have to actually split ntukai.ttf into pieces. >pdftex would know that all the TeX font subsets are parts of a single >TTF font, and how the 8-bit character codes map into the full font. just point to the ttf file, like: gbsong81 Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA20052 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 09:13:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 5C0402B476; Fri, 4 May 2001 17:12:03 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp9.xs4all.nl (smtp9.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.135]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f44FBgm26017 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 17:11:42 +0200 Received: from server-1.pragma-ade.nl (s340-isdn2167.dial.xs4all.nl [194.109.188.119]) by smtp9.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA28641; Fri, 4 May 2001 17:10:54 +0200 (CEST) Received: from laptop-1 (laptop-1.pragma-ade.nl [200.1.1.25]) by server-1.pragma-ade.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA08279; Fri, 4 May 2001 17:09:54 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20010504164045.019a11c0@server-1> X-Sender: hagen@server-1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) To: Otfried Cheong From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: [pdftex] Redundant objects: patch available Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: <20010504122147.75519451B@mail.cs.uu.nl> References: <20010504135646.C7381@anxur.fi.muni.cz> <3.0.1.16.20010501133615.098fd49a@localhost> <20010501143224.6771B452A@mail.cs.uu.nl> <20010502094022.F12372@anxur.fi.muni.cz> <20010502114011.01D2E4548@mail.cs.uu.nl> <20010503150035.A18609@anxur.fi.muni.cz> <20010503131748.20DF74533@mail.cs.uu.nl> <20010503152347.C20100@anxur.fi.muni.cz> <20010503143613.6976F4534@mail.cs.uu.nl> <001101c0d48a$925b3480$4db6cac3@kabsi.at> <20010504114949.D1368451D@mail.cs.uu.nl> <20010504135646.C7381@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 16:40:45 +0200 At 02:21 PM 5/4/01 +0200, Otfried Cheong wrote: >But I indeed forgot about the link annotations. A single link takes >about 125 bytes, and there are easily 5 per page on average (much more >on the table of contents pages). That easily accounts for the missing >space. >texutil --anal pdfref.pdf TeXUtil 7.3 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1992-2000 analyzing file : pdfref.pdf file size : 4310705 objects : 9929 annotations : 2906 links : 2906 (0 named / 0 scripts / 0 files) widgets : 0 so there's over 300 K basic annotation data (3000*100 chars average) plus some big dest arrays and hinting tables. Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma@wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 4-May-2001 16:30:19-GMT,4980;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA21127 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 10:30:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 4119B2AE98; Fri, 4 May 2001 18:31:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f44GUlm26494 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 18:30:47 +0200 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (214@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA13233; Fri, 4 May 2001 18:29:59 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from sojka@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA27465; Fri, 4 May 2001 18:30:00 +0200 (MET DST) From: Petr Sojka To: Otfried Cheong Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] Generating CJK in PDF Message-ID: <20010504183000.E18576@informatics.muni.cz> References: <20010504125715.154CF453D@mail.cs.uu.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20010504125715.154CF453D@mail.cs.uu.nl>; from Otfried Cheong on Fri, May 04, 2001 at 02:57:15PM +0200 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 18:30:00 +0200 On Fri, May 04, 2001 at 02:57:15PM +0200, Otfried Cheong wrote: Hi, > Currently it is not really possible to produce CJK PDF files with > pdftex. I don't think so. > Certainly one can use Werner's CJK package, or hlatex etc., > using several Type1 8bit fonts to cover a single 16bit font. But the > resulting PDF files are essentially encrypted - it is possible to view > and print them, but one cannot copy and paste, or search for text in > the file, because the viewer has no idea what the character codes mean. It has been possible since Jul 2000; take your CMAP resources, or Adobe's from http://partners.adobe.com/asn/developer/technotes/acrobatpdf.html and put them in the PDF file using \pdffontattr command (i don't know whether Thanh already managed putting a note about it into the manual :-( ): >From thanh@informatics.muni.cz Sat Jul 8 16:48 MET 2000 Subject: tounicode To: sojka@anxur.fi.muni.cz (Petr Sojka), pridal jsem novy primitiv \pdffontattr, ktery umozni pridat /ToUnicode do Font dict. Priklad pouziti: ==================== cut here ========================== \font\f=ptmr8r\f % *nesmi* byt virtualni font % obsah CMap objektu (kopirovano z t1.pdf): \immediate\pdfobj{% /CIDInit /ProcSet findresource begin 12 dict begin begincmap /CIDSystemInfo << /Registry (NewsSerifEE-Roman+0) /Ordering (T1UV) /Supplement 0 >> def /CMapName /NewsSerifEE-Roman+0 def 1 begincodespacerange <01> <0a> endcodespacerange 10 beginbfrange <01> <01> <010D> <02> <02> <0078> <03> <03> <00E9> <04> <04> <011B> <05> <05> <0161> <06> <06> <0159> <07> <07> <017E> <08> <08> <00FD> <09> <09> <00E1> <0a> <0a> <00ED> endbfrange endcmap CMapName currentdict /CMap defineresource pop end end} \pdffontattr\f{/ToUnicode \the\pdflastobj\space 0 R} % pridat /ToUnicode ==================== cut here ========================== I don't know any font handling macropackage that supports it, so you should specify \pdffontattr for every "cut&pasteable&searchable" raw font manually, or write macros for it. > Here is a possible design: Extend the syntax of font map files with > the same subsetting implemented by ttf2tfm: > > ntukai@@ ntukai.ttf \pdffontattr seems more flexible. > There is a much simpler route to enabling copy-and-paste and text > searching, at least in theory: one can add a "ToUnicode" character map > to each of the subfonts. Viewers that correctly implement the PDF > specification should then be able to provide search and copy. But > does this really work in practice? Yes, searching does work, and cut&paste under windows platform only, (tested under win2000 with Czech fonts [not all Czech characters are in AdobeStandardEncoding, so we need it] as there is not clipboard equivalent under X-windows AFAIK :-(. Hope helps. --ps > Xpdf certainly does not support > it. Does it work using Acrobat Reader on Chinese Windows, or Hangul > Windows? Does Acrobat Reader for Linux actually have any support for > it? _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 5-May-2001 5:01:19-GMT,2655;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA28548 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 23:01:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id A448C2AE82; Sat, 5 May 2001 07:02:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from postfix2-1.free.fr (postfix2-1.free.fr [213.228.0.9]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f45513m28952 for ; Sat, 5 May 2001 07:01:03 +0200 Received: from ujf-grenoble.fr (grenoble-44-66.dial.proxad.net [213.228.44.66]) by postfix2-1.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7357C0D5; Sat, 5 May 2001 01:57:02 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <3AF341CF.6029D886@ujf-grenoble.fr> From: Thierry Bouche X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [fr] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: fr,en,es MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Werner LEMBERG Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] `store' keyword. References: <20010504.144133.42460511.wl@gnu.org> <200105041406.QAA23937@mozart.ujf-grenoble.Fr> <20010504.170122.94753177.wl@gnu.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sat, 05 May 2001 01:57:03 +0200 Werner LEMBERG a écrit : > Just curious: What happens with the UID if the font is slanted (i.e., > if " .167 SlantFont " is used)? pdftex accepts this. good point, I don't know! Maybe the separation as two distinct objects between the outlines and the fontdict make this clean? > I see no fundamental difference between slanting and outlining. The difference is the syntax. In one case, you modify the FontMatrix not using pure PS code, but only a simple .map syntax. In your case, you modify the font dict by explicit PS code. If pdftex were to parse that as keywords as it does for SlantFont, it should take care of unexpected cases "... anything legal in dvips ... store", but this is maybe a limitting case not real enough to consider. Th. Bouche _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 5-May-2001 5:53:19-GMT,3214;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA28844 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 23:53:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id BF09E2AE8F; Sat, 5 May 2001 07:54:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from nx5.HRZ.Uni-Dortmund.DE (nx5.HRZ.Uni-Dortmund.DE [129.217.131.21]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f455rgm29178 for ; Sat, 5 May 2001 07:53:43 +0200 Received: from sx2.hrz.uni-dortmund.de by nx5.HRZ.Uni-Dortmund.DE via smtp-local with ESMTP; Fri, 4 May 2001 22:21:41 +0200 Received: from rigel.univie.ac.at (dial-143191.HRZ.Uni-Dortmund.DE [129.217.143.191]) by sx2.hrz.uni-dortmund.de (8.10.2+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f44KLdB04814; Fri, 4 May 2001 22:21:40 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from localhost (sx0005@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rigel.univie.ac.at (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA22483; Fri, 4 May 2001 17:01:22 +0200 Message-Id: <20010504.170122.94753177.wl@gnu.org> To: Thierry.Bouche@ujf-grenoble.fr Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] `store' keyword. From: Werner LEMBERG In-Reply-To: <200105041406.QAA23937@mozart.ujf-grenoble.Fr> References: <20010504.144133.42460511.wl@gnu.org> <200105041406.QAA23937@mozart.ujf-grenoble.Fr> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.95b99 on Emacs 21.0.103.4 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.daimi.au.dk id f455rgm29178 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 17:01:22 +0200 (CEST) > » pkol0 HangulMyoungjoA-Regular " /PaintType 2 store " > this is pure PS hacking (it makes an outline font from a normal one, > by changing the PaintType in the font dictionary) > > Of course, pdftex could interpret this when using the font, but i > don't think that would be so nice (if the same font is used in > outline & filled in the same PDF, what will happen, if they share > the same UID?) Just curious: What happens with the UID if the font is slanted (i.e., if " .167 SlantFont " is used)? pdftex accepts this. > I'd prefer to make another font with a modified name, UID, PaintType > from the base one. This is of course trivial with t1asm/disasm. For Korean, this would mean another 1.44MByte per font shape on the hard disk. And there are *many* shapes delivered with HLaTeX... I see no fundamental difference between slanting and outlining. Werner _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 5-May-2001 5:53:42-GMT,3437;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA28848 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 23:53:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id B25BC2B44A; Sat, 5 May 2001 07:54:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from nx5.HRZ.Uni-Dortmund.DE (nx5.HRZ.Uni-Dortmund.DE [129.217.131.21]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f455rhm29181 for ; Sat, 5 May 2001 07:53:43 +0200 Received: from sx2.hrz.uni-dortmund.de by nx5.HRZ.Uni-Dortmund.DE via smtp-local with ESMTP; Fri, 4 May 2001 22:21:44 +0200 Received: from rigel.univie.ac.at (dial-143191.HRZ.Uni-Dortmund.DE [129.217.143.191]) by sx2.hrz.uni-dortmund.de (8.10.2+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f44KLgB04817; Fri, 4 May 2001 22:21:42 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from localhost (sx0005@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rigel.univie.ac.at (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA22492; Fri, 4 May 2001 17:11:38 +0200 Message-Id: <20010504.171138.93479337.wl@gnu.org> To: otfried@cs.uu.nl Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] Generating CJK in PDF From: Werner LEMBERG In-Reply-To: <20010504125715.154CF453D@mail.cs.uu.nl> References: <20010504125715.154CF453D@mail.cs.uu.nl> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.95b99 on Emacs 21.0.103.4 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 17:11:38 +0200 (CEST) > Currently it is not really possible to produce CJK PDF files with > pdftex. Certainly one can use Werner's CJK package, or hlatex etc., > using several Type1 8bit fonts to cover a single 16bit font. But > the resulting PDF files are essentially encrypted - it is possible > to view and print them, but one cannot copy and paste, or search for > text in the file, because the viewer has no idea what the character > codes mean. A fundamental question: What is exactly needed to make a glyph searchable in a PDF file? Is it sufficient to have a proper glyph name following the AGL? If so, it would be enough to provide correct glyph names for all glyphs in the subfonts. This is rather trivial to add to converters like ttf2pt1. > One would, however, not have to actually split ntukai.ttf into > pieces. pdftex would know that all the TeX font subsets are parts > of a single TTF font, and how the 8-bit character codes map into the > full font. It would use 16bit character codes in content streams > referring to the font, and would embed (possibly a subset of) > ntukai.ttf as a single CIDkeyed font. One would not need to change > the existing macro packages at all, but would generate real 16bit > output. This sounds like a good idea. Werner _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 6-May-2001 9:02:19-GMT,3092;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA07595 for ; Sun, 6 May 2001 03:02:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 8B4972AE82; Sun, 6 May 2001 11:03:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.cs.uu.nl (sunset.cs.uu.nl [131.211.80.32]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4692xm07157 for ; Sun, 6 May 2001 11:02:59 +0200 Received: from [131.211.83.22] (port6.tw.cs.uu.nl [131.211.83.22]) by mail.cs.uu.nl (Postfix) with SMTP id 539F6451E; Sun, 6 May 2001 11:02:08 +0200 (MET DST) From: Otfried Cheong Reply-To: Otfried Cheong To: Petr Sojka Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Re: [pdftex] Generating CJK in PDF Message-ID: X-Mailer: EPOC Email Version 2.00 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Language: i-default Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.daimi.au.dk id f4692xm07157 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 11:04:29 +0100 Hi Petr, thanks a lot for the detailed reply. This is exactly what I was missing. \pdffontattr is not yet in the manual, I will remember to look in the pdftex sources first before I ask a question next time :-) Otfried ________________ Reply Header ________________ Subject: Re: [pdftex] Generating CJK in PDF Author: Petr Sojka Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 16:30:00 +0100 On Fri, May 04, 2001 at 02:57:15PM +0200, Otfried Cheong wrote: Hi, > Currently it is not really possible to produce CJK PDF files with > pdftex. I don't think so. > Certainly one can use Werner's CJK package, or hlatex etc., > using several Type1 8bit fonts to cover a single 16bit font. But the > resulting PDF files are essentially encrypted - it is possible to view > and print them, but one cannot copy and paste, or search for text in > the file, because the viewer has no idea what the character codes mean. It has been possible since Jul 2000; take your CMAP resources, or Adobe's from http://partners.adobe.com/asn/developer/technotes/acrobatpdf.html and put them in the PDF file using \pdffontattr command (i don't know whether Thanh already managed putting a note about it into the manual :-( ): [...] _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 6-May-2001 9:03:21-GMT,3743;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA07601 for ; Sun, 6 May 2001 03:03:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 9D9FC2B454; Sun, 6 May 2001 11:04:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.cs.uu.nl (sunset.cs.uu.nl [131.211.80.32]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f46939m07218 for ; Sun, 6 May 2001 11:03:09 +0200 Received: from [131.211.83.22] (port6.tw.cs.uu.nl [131.211.83.22]) by mail.cs.uu.nl (Postfix) with SMTP id 7F932451E; Sun, 6 May 2001 11:02:18 +0200 (MET DST) From: Otfried Cheong Reply-To: Otfried Cheong To: Werner LEMBERG Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Re: [pdftex] Generating CJK in PDF Message-ID: X-Mailer: EPOC Email Version 2.00 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Language: i-default Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.daimi.au.dk id f46939m07218 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 11:04:39 +0100 Unfortunately it is not enough to have the right glyph name. According to section 5.9 of the PDF reference, glyphs in Type1 fonts are identifyable by the view only if the font uses on of the predefined encodings WinAnsiEncoding, MacRomanEncoding, or MacExpertEncoding, or if the font uses glyph names from the Adobe standard latin character set and the named chars in the Symbol font. Anything else has to be done with ToUnicode maps. Otfried ________________ Reply Header ________________ Subject: Re: [pdftex] Generating CJK in PDF Author: Werner LEMBERG Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 15:11:38 +0100 > Currently it is not really possible to produce CJK PDF files with > pdftex. Certainly one can use Werner's CJK package, or hlatex etc., > using several Type1 8bit fonts to cover a single 16bit font. But > the resulting PDF files are essentially encrypted - it is possible > to view and print them, but one cannot copy and paste, or search for > text in the file, because the viewer has no idea what the character > codes mean. A fundamental question: What is exactly needed to make a glyph searchable in a PDF file? Is it sufficient to have a proper glyph name following the AGL? If so, it would be enough to provide correct glyph names for all glyphs in the subfonts. This is rather trivial to add to converters like ttf2pt1. > One would, however, not have to actually split ntukai.ttf into > pieces. pdftex would know that all the TeX font subsets are parts > of a single TTF font, and how the 8-bit character codes map into the > full font. It would use 16bit character codes in content streams > referring to the font, and would embed (possibly a subset of) > ntukai.ttf as a single CIDkeyed font. One would not need to change > the existing macro packages at all, but would generate real 16bit > output. This sounds like a good idea. Werner _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 6-May-2001 9:14:10-GMT,2538;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA07654 for ; Sun, 6 May 2001 03:14:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 7D5B72B459; Sun, 6 May 2001 11:04:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.cs.uu.nl (sunset.cs.uu.nl [131.211.80.32]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4693Gm07223 for ; Sun, 6 May 2001 11:03:16 +0200 Received: from [131.211.83.22] (port6.tw.cs.uu.nl [131.211.83.22]) by mail.cs.uu.nl (Postfix) with SMTP id A4370451E; Sun, 6 May 2001 11:02:26 +0200 (MET DST) From: Otfried Cheong Reply-To: Otfried Cheong To: Hans Hagen Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Re: [pdftex] Generating CJK in PDF Message-ID: X-Mailer: EPOC Email Version 2.00 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Language: i-default Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.daimi.au.dk id f4693Gm07223 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 11:04:48 +0100 > pdftex can comfortably make files with chinese fonts > since they are just fonts... Well, that's what I've been doing until now. For the reasons I mentioned, it doesn't satisfy the demanding Asian customer. > just point to the ttf file, like: > gbsong81 gbsong82 Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA08434 for ; Sun, 6 May 2001 07:01:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 7F7952AE8F; Sun, 6 May 2001 15:02:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f46D1im08019 for ; Sun, 6 May 2001 15:01:44 +0200 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA16680 for ; Sun, 6 May 2001 15:00:55 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA05633 for pdftex@tug.org; Sun, 6 May 2001 15:00:54 +0200 (MET DST) From: Han The Thanh To: pdfTeX Subject: Re: Re: [pdftex] Generating CJK in PDF Message-ID: <20010506150053.B5153@anxur.fi.muni.cz> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from otfried@cs.uu.nl on Sun, May 06, 2001 at 11:04:48AM +0100 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 15:00:54 +0200 > > pdftex can comfortably make files with chinese fonts > > since they are just fonts... > > Well, that's what I've been doing until now. For the reasons I mentioned, it doesn't satisfy the demanding Asian customer. > > > just point to the ttf file, like: > > gbsong81 > gbsong82 > This isn't quite what I had in mind, as pdftex creates separate embedded fonts. > > But it is great that this is possible. This should be in the documentation for the CJK package. One doesn't need to create any subfonts at all and can let pdftex do it on the fly. > No more running ttf2pt1 on TTF files! if I remember correctly, then some work has been done on ttf2pfb so it can create the corresponding *.enc files for use with pdftex. Hans, Werner and Wang can tell more about that. Thanh _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 6-May-2001 16:12:17-GMT,2673;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA09237 for ; Sun, 6 May 2001 10:12:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 040A12B44B; Sun, 6 May 2001 18:13:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f46GClm08663 for ; Sun, 6 May 2001 18:12:48 +0200 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA24151 for ; Sun, 6 May 2001 18:11:59 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA10103 for pdftex@tug.org; Sun, 6 May 2001 18:11:59 +0200 (MET DST) From: Han The Thanh To: pdfTeX Subject: Re: Re: [pdftex] Generating CJK in PDF Message-ID: <20010506181159.A10033@anxur.fi.muni.cz> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from otfried@cs.uu.nl on Sun, May 06, 2001 at 11:04:48AM +0100 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 18:11:59 +0200 > > just point to the ttf file, like: > > gbsong81 > gbsong82 > This isn't quite what I had in mind, as pdftex creates separate embedded > fonts. > > But it is great that this is possible. This should be in the > documentation for the CJK package. One doesn't need to create any > subfonts at all and can let pdftex do it on the fly. No more running > ttf2pt1 on TTF files! I forgot to mention in the previous mail that one still has to create the tfm files. Given that the *enc files are available, one can run ttf2afm to create the corresponding afm's and thus tfm's quite quickly. Thanh _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 6-May-2001 23:33:18-GMT,2598;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA11608 for ; Sun, 6 May 2001 17:33:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id F258B2AE93; Mon, 7 May 2001 01:34:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from nx5.HRZ.Uni-Dortmund.DE (nx5.HRZ.Uni-Dortmund.DE [129.217.131.21]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f46NX2m10141 for ; Mon, 7 May 2001 01:33:03 +0200 Received: from sx2.hrz.uni-dortmund.de by nx5.HRZ.Uni-Dortmund.DE via smtp-local with ESMTP; Mon, 7 May 2001 01:31:59 +0200 Received: from rigel.univie.ac.at (dial-143164.HRZ.Uni-Dortmund.DE [129.217.143.164]) by sx2.hrz.uni-dortmund.de (8.10.2+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f46NVvB13006; Mon, 7 May 2001 01:31:57 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from localhost (sx0005@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rigel.univie.ac.at (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA27564; Sun, 6 May 2001 21:31:21 +0200 Message-Id: <20010506.213121.37299101.wl@gnu.org> To: thanh@informatics.muni.cz Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] Generating CJK in PDF From: Werner LEMBERG In-Reply-To: <20010506150053.B5153@anxur.fi.muni.cz> References: <20010506150053.B5153@anxur.fi.muni.cz> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.95b99 on Emacs 21.0.103.4 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sun, 06 May 2001 21:31:21 +0200 (CEST) > > No more running ttf2pt1 on TTF files! > > if I remember correctly, then some work has been done on ttf2pfb so > it can create the corresponding *.enc files for use with > pdftex. Hans, Werner and Wang can tell more about that. I don't know such an extension. Can you give more details, please? BTW, ttf2pfb is no longer maintained. ttf2pt1 is far better now. Werner _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 7-May-2001 3:14:18-GMT,2588;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA12902 for ; Sun, 6 May 2001 21:14:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 3A7072AE98; Mon, 7 May 2001 05:15:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ember.terry.uga.edu (imsp.terry.uga.edu [128.192.28.146]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f473Evm10961 for ; Mon, 7 May 2001 05:14:57 +0200 Received: from terry.uga.edu.terry.uga.edu (IDENT:ecashin@ping.terry.uga.edu [128.192.98.41]) by ember.terry.uga.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA12731; Sun, 6 May 2001 23:15:04 -0400 To: "Sebastian Rahtz" Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] Metapost and PDF files References: <20010428151810.B9615@iarc.uaf.edu> <20010429143612.A11292@boole.maths.tcd.ie> <15085.61519.483543.305112@gargle.gargle.HOWL> From: Ed L Cashin In-Reply-To: <15085.61519.483543.305112@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Message-ID: Lines: 19 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: 06 May 2001 23:14:08 -0400 "Sebastian Rahtz" writes: > Timothy Murphy writes: > > > > I wonder if anyone has ever used MetaPost with troff? > > > > I read that the last troff-user died 7 years ago, aged 101. > > as opposed the the people who use groff every day of their lives? > > though I doubt if any groff user knows about Metapost! As one who reads man pages on a Linux system (and is, therefore, a groff user), and also knows what MetaPost is, I can quiet your doubts. ;) -- --Ed Cashin PGP public key: ecashin@terry.uga.edu http://www.terry.uga.edu/~ecashin/pgp/ _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 7-May-2001 8:52:18-GMT,3477;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA15424 for ; Mon, 7 May 2001 02:52:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 7E87C2B44A; Mon, 7 May 2001 10:53:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp8.xs4all.nl (smtp8.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.134]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f478qdm12092 for ; Mon, 7 May 2001 10:52:39 +0200 Received: from server-1.pragma-ade.nl (s340-modem3607.dial.xs4all.nl [194.109.174.23]) by smtp8.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA18605; Mon, 7 May 2001 10:51:45 +0200 (CEST) Received: from laptop-1 (laptop-1.pragma-ade.nl [200.1.1.25]) by server-1.pragma-ade.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA21094; Mon, 7 May 2001 10:45:39 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20010507102411.0196be40@server-1> X-Sender: hagen@server-1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) To: Han The Thanh From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: Re: [pdftex] Generating CJK in PDF Cc: pdfTeX In-Reply-To: <20010506150053.B5153@anxur.fi.muni.cz> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 10:24:11 +0200 At 03:00 PM 5/6/01 +0200, Han The Thanh wrote: >> > pdftex can comfortably make files with chinese fonts >> > since they are just fonts... >> >> Well, that's what I've been doing until now. For the reasons I mentioned, it doesn't satisfy the demanding Asian customer. >> >> > just point to the ttf file, like: >> > gbsong81 > > gbsong82 > >> This isn't quite what I had in mind, as pdftex creates separate embedded fonts. >> >> But it is great that this is possible. This should be in the documentation for the CJK package. One doesn't need to create any subfonts at all and can let pdftex do it on the fly. >> No more running ttf2pt1 on TTF files! > >if I remember correctly, then some work has been done on ttf2pfb so it >can create the corresponding *.enc files for use with pdftex. Hans, Werner >and Wang can tell more about that. indeed wang lei [also on this list] has adapted some tools to handle truetype fonts [we needed it for chinese support in context] Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma@wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 7-May-2001 10:24:18-GMT,2620;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA15948 for ; Mon, 7 May 2001 04:24:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 0416C2AE99; Mon, 7 May 2001 12:25:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f47AO7m12641 for ; Mon, 7 May 2001 12:24:07 +0200 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA07012; Mon, 7 May 2001 12:23:18 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA21809; Mon, 7 May 2001 12:23:18 +0200 (MET DST) From: Han The Thanh To: Werner LEMBERG Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] Generating CJK in PDF Message-ID: <20010507122318.B20772@anxur.fi.muni.cz> References: <20010506150053.B5153@anxur.fi.muni.cz> <20010506.213121.37299101.wl@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20010506.213121.37299101.wl@gnu.org>; from wl@gnu.org on Sun, May 06, 2001 at 09:31:21PM +0200 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 12:23:18 +0200 > > if I remember correctly, then some work has been done on ttf2pfb so > > it can create the corresponding *.enc files for use with > > pdftex. Hans, Werner and Wang can tell more about that. > > I don't know such an extension. Can you give more details, please? > > BTW, ttf2pfb is no longer maintained. ttf2pt1 is far better now. I sent an email to Wang Lei asking about that. He has done some change on ttf2pfb in the chpfb package, so that instead of splitting a huge ttf into smaller pfb, one can get the corresponding *enc file. Thanh _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 7-May-2001 18:01:17-GMT,3613;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA21070 for ; Mon, 7 May 2001 12:01:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 36AB22AE8B; Mon, 7 May 2001 20:02:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.cs.uu.nl (sunset.cs.uu.nl [131.211.80.32]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f47I1hm14711 for ; Mon, 7 May 2001 20:01:43 +0200 Received: from [131.211.83.23] (port7.tw.cs.uu.nl [131.211.83.23]) by mail.cs.uu.nl (Postfix) with SMTP id 98BF2451A; Mon, 7 May 2001 20:00:52 +0200 (MET DST) From: Otfried Cheong Reply-To: Otfried Cheong To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] Generating CJK in PDF Message-ID: X-Mailer: EPOC Email Version 2.00 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Language: i-default Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.daimi.au.dk id f47I1hm14711 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 20:03:13 +0100 Werner writes: > > > No more running ttf2pt1 on TTF files! > > > > if I remember correctly, then some work has > > been done on ttf2pfb so > > it can create the corresponding *.enc files for use with > > pdftex. Hans, Werner and Wang can tell more about that. > I don't know such an extension. Can you give more > details, please? > BTW, ttf2pfb is no longer maintained. > ttf2pt1 is far better now. As far as I'm concerned, both ttf2pfb and ttf2pt1 have just become obsolete :-) I got this feature to work after seeing Hans' message, but it took some reading of pdftex sources to find out about the undocumented /index syntax for *.enc files... I've used 'ttf2tfm' to generate the .tfm files - I find it more convenient than going through AFM files. All you need is a TTF font and a subfont definition scheme (what ttf2tfm calls an .sfd file). All the .sfd's I've ever needed come with ttf2tfm. The .enc files contain the same information as the .sfd file, but using glyph indices instead of char codes. I've just extended ttf2tfm so that together with the .tfm files it writes the .enc files. I guess one could make it create the /ToUnicode cmap files and the .map file for pdftex as well. By the way, Hans' example showed an encoding file named 'gbk-81.enc', which made it look as if the encoding file depends just on the charset of the TTF file. I believe this isn't right, and 'gbk-81.enc' actually contains glyph indices in the TTF font. This is a bit inconvenient (one needs lots of distinct .enc files), and seems to be asking for trouble: what if a user replaces the TTF font by a newer version with the same name but different glyph indices? Wouldn't it be more convenient to be able to work with char codes from the Unicode cmap table instead? Otfried _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 8-May-2001 7:17:17-GMT,2670;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA29991 for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 01:17:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id EAB902AE82; Tue, 8 May 2001 09:18:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from nx5.HRZ.Uni-Dortmund.DE (nx5.HRZ.Uni-Dortmund.DE [129.217.131.21]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f487Hxm17451 for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 09:18:00 +0200 Received: from sx2.hrz.uni-dortmund.de by nx5.HRZ.Uni-Dortmund.DE via smtp-local with ESMTP; Tue, 8 May 2001 09:17:08 +0200 Received: from rigel.univie.ac.at (dial-143157.HRZ.Uni-Dortmund.DE [129.217.143.157]) by sx2.hrz.uni-dortmund.de (8.10.2+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f487H7B11244; Tue, 8 May 2001 09:17:07 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from localhost (sx0005@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rigel.univie.ac.at (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA29994; Mon, 7 May 2001 17:13:39 +0200 Message-Id: <20010507.171339.95803760.wl@gnu.org> To: thanh@informatics.muni.cz Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] Generating CJK in PDF From: Werner LEMBERG In-Reply-To: <20010507122318.B20772@anxur.fi.muni.cz> References: <20010506150053.B5153@anxur.fi.muni.cz> <20010506.213121.37299101.wl@gnu.org> <20010507122318.B20772@anxur.fi.muni.cz> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.95b99 on Emacs 21.0.103.4 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 17:13:39 +0200 (CEST) > > BTW, ttf2pfb is no longer maintained. ttf2pt1 is far better now. > > I sent an email to Wang Lei asking about that. He has done some > change on ttf2pfb in the chpfb package, so that instead of splitting > a huge ttf into smaller pfb, one can get the corresponding *enc > file. Where is the home ftp server of chpfb? It would be great if these changes could be incorporated into ttf2pt1. Werner _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 8-May-2001 7:18:17-GMT,3688;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA00005 for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 01:18:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 324192AE93; Tue, 8 May 2001 09:19:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from nx5.HRZ.Uni-Dortmund.DE (nx5.HRZ.Uni-Dortmund.DE [129.217.131.21]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f487I0m17453 for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 09:18:00 +0200 Received: from sx2.hrz.uni-dortmund.de by nx5.HRZ.Uni-Dortmund.DE via smtp-local with ESMTP; Tue, 8 May 2001 09:16:59 +0200 Received: from rigel.univie.ac.at (dial-143157.HRZ.Uni-Dortmund.DE [129.217.143.157]) by sx2.hrz.uni-dortmund.de (8.10.2+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f487GuB11234; Tue, 8 May 2001 09:16:57 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from localhost (sx0005@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rigel.univie.ac.at (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA30153; Mon, 7 May 2001 23:16:07 +0200 Message-Id: <20010507.231607.124440485.wl@gnu.org> To: otfried@cs.uu.nl Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] Generating CJK in PDF From: Werner LEMBERG In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Mew version 1.95b99 on Emacs 21.0.103.4 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 23:16:07 +0200 (CEST) > I got this feature to work after seeing Hans' message, but it took > some reading of pdftex sources to find out about the undocumented > /index syntax for *.enc files... I would be glad if you can send me a small but complete example for testing. > The .enc files contain the same information as the .sfd file, but > using glyph indices instead of char codes. I've just extended > ttf2tfm so that together with the .tfm files it writes the .enc > files. I guess one could make it create the /ToUnicode cmap files > and the .map file for pdftex as well. Please send me the patch. > By the way, Hans' example showed an encoding file named > 'gbk-81.enc', which made it look as if the encoding file depends > just on the charset of the TTF file. I believe this isn't right, > and 'gbk-81.enc' actually contains glyph indices in the TTF font. > This is a bit inconvenient (one needs lots of distinct .enc files), > and seems to be asking for trouble: what if a user replaces the TTF > font by a newer version with the same name but different glyph > indices? Wouldn't it be more convenient to be able to work with > char codes from the Unicode cmap table instead? I fear this won't be possible. For example, the current version from ttf2tfm uses some OpenType features to get vertical glyph representation forms for pseudo-vertical typesetting (i.e. rotated glyphs) from a CJK font if such an OpenType table is available. The character codes are the same, but you'll get different glyph indices. Werner _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 8-May-2001 8:41:17-GMT,3017;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA00475 for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 02:41:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 252E02AE82; Tue, 8 May 2001 10:42:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp3.xs4all.nl (smtp3.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.132]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f488fam17864 for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 10:41:36 +0200 Received: from server-1.pragma-ade.nl (s340-modem3412.dial.xs4all.nl [194.109.173.84]) by smtp3.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA22488; Tue, 8 May 2001 10:40:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: from laptop-1 (laptop-1.pragma-ade.nl [200.1.1.25]) by server-1.pragma-ade.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA00351; Tue, 8 May 2001 10:26:51 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20010508102138.01668570@server-1> X-Sender: hagen@server-1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) To: Otfried Cheong From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: [pdftex] Generating CJK in PDF Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 10:21:38 +0200 At 08:03 PM 5/7/01 +0100, you wrote: >By the way, Hans' example showed an encoding file named 'gbk-81.enc', which made it look as if the encoding file depends just on the charset of the TTF file. I believe this isn't right, and 'gbk-81.enc' actually contains glyph indices in the TTF font. This is a bit inconvenient (one needs lots of distinct .enc files), and seems to be asking for trouble: what if a user replaces the TTF font by a newer version with the same name but different glyph indices? Wouldn't it be more convenient to be able to work with char codes from the Unicode cmap table instead? Yes, and i will look into that later, when i pick up the chinese etc. thread. Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma@wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 8-May-2001 9:20:17-GMT,4621;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA00661 for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 03:20:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 791912AE82; Tue, 8 May 2001 11:21:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.cs.uu.nl (sunset.cs.uu.nl [131.211.80.32]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f489K1m18048 for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 11:20:01 +0200 Received: from mihoen.cs.uu.nl (mihoen.cs.uu.nl [131.211.80.223]) by mail.cs.uu.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAA4C4529; Tue, 8 May 2001 11:19:07 +0200 (MET DST) From: Otfried Cheong To: wl@gnu.org Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-reply-to: <20010507.231607.124440485.wl@gnu.org> (message from Werner LEMBERG on Mon, 07 May 2001 23:16:07 +0200 (CEST)) Subject: Re: [pdftex] Generating CJK in PDF MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: GNU Emacs 20.7.1 References: <20010507.231607.124440485.wl@gnu.org> Message-Id: <20010508091910.AAA4C4529@mail.cs.uu.nl> Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 11:19:10 +0200 (MET DST) > > I got this feature to work after seeing Hans' message, but it took > > some reading of pdftex sources to find out about the undocumented > > /index syntax for *.enc files... > > I would be glad if you can send me a small but complete example for > testing. Here's a very quick tour of what I did. I wanted to make 'yoonm.ttf' accessible from TeX using Unicode encoding (Unicode.sfd). So I run ttf2tfm yoonm.ttf yoonm@Unicode@ This generates yoonm00.tfm, yoonm01.tfm, ... yoonmff.tfm. For each subfont you also need an *.enc file, which simply maps the code points in the subfont to glyph indices in yoonm.ttf. E.g., yoonmac.enc looks like this: /YoonmacEncoding [ /index123 /index124 /index728 /index248 ... ] def As you may have guessed /index refers to the glyph with glyph index . Now the only missing item is the map file 'yoonm.map': yoonm00 > The .enc files contain the same information as the .sfd file, but > > using glyph indices instead of char codes. I've just extended > > ttf2tfm so that together with the .tfm files it writes the .enc > > files. I guess one could make it create the /ToUnicode cmap files > > and the .map file for pdftex as well. > > Please send me the patch. I can bring it from home, but it seems it's broken. I'm sure I didn't do the vertical variant handling right, because I didn't even notice it was there. Probably you can do it better starting without my patch... > I fear this won't be possible. For example, the current version from > ttf2tfm uses some OpenType features to get vertical glyph > representation forms for pseudo-vertical typesetting (i.e. rotated > glyphs) from a CJK font if such an OpenType table is available. The > character codes are the same, but you'll get different glyph indices. Aha, I didn't realize this. Well, I'm happy to live with the system as it is if I know why :-) Otfried _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 8-May-2001 15:37:18-GMT,3427;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA03680 for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 09:37:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 15C1D2AE82; Tue, 8 May 2001 17:38:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f48Fbtm19857 for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 17:37:55 +0200 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA11426; Tue, 8 May 2001 17:37:05 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA15999; Tue, 8 May 2001 17:37:06 +0200 (MET DST) From: Han The Thanh To: Otfried Cheong Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] Generating CJK in PDF Message-ID: <20010508173706.B14569@anxur.fi.muni.cz> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from otfried@cs.uu.nl on Mon, May 07, 2001 at 08:03:13PM +0100 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 17:37:06 +0200 > As far as I'm concerned, both ttf2pfb and ttf2pt1 have just become > obsolete :-) I am not so sure -- printing pdf files with TTF fonts is not so stable so one can drop the pfb's. At least printing to PS by AR didn't work for me when I tested it. > I got this feature to work after seeing Hans' message, but it took some > reading of pdftex sources to find out about the undocumented /index > syntax for *.enc files... > > I've used 'ttf2tfm' to generate the .tfm files - I find it more > convenient than going through AFM files. All you need is a TTF font and a > subfont definition scheme (what ttf2tfm calls an .sfd file). All the > .sfd's I've ever needed come with ttf2tfm. I didn't try it yet, but I believe so --- especially when you have the .sfd files already. > By the way, Hans' example showed an encoding file named 'gbk-81.enc', > which made it look as if the encoding file depends just on the charset of > the TTF file. I believe this isn't right, and 'gbk-81.enc' actually > contains glyph indices in the TTF font. This is a bit inconvenient (one > needs lots of distinct .enc files), and seems to be asking for trouble: > what if a user replaces the TTF font by a newer version with the same > name but different glyph indices? Wouldn't it be more convenient to be > able to work with char codes from the Unicode cmap table instead? yes that's right. We can take a look into that. Thanh _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 9-May-2001 12:33:17-GMT,2315;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA16522 for ; Wed, 9 May 2001 06:33:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id A55202AE93; Wed, 9 May 2001 14:34:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from studsv07.studserv.uni-stuttgart.de (studsv07.studserv.uni-stuttgart.de [129.69.21.37]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f49CXLm24928 for ; Wed, 9 May 2001 14:33:22 +0200 Received: from stud.uni-stuttgart.de [129.69.21.77] by studsv07.studserv.uni-stuttgart.de with ESMTP (SMTPD32-6.06) id A8DE6C0703DA; Wed, 09 May 2001 14:32:30 +0200 Message-ID: <3AF938DE.994C9D4F@stud.uni-stuttgart.de> From: StudPool User X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en-gb] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [pdftex] Including Movies and Sound Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 14:32:30 +0200 Hi ! I'm searching for a (easy) method to include movies (*.mov, *.mpg) and sounds (*.wav) in a pdf-document with pdflatex. I can imagine two possible ways to include movies: First, creating a box, which displays the first picture of the movie. At the bottom of the box are some control-buttons (play, stop, etc). Clicking on the play-button starts the movie. Second, clicking on a button to open a new window, which views the movie. Hopefully there are some solutions for this problem. By the way, it should work with windows and linux/kde. Thomas Drozdek _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 9-May-2001 14:19:16-GMT,2522;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA17374 for ; Wed, 9 May 2001 08:19:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id BBEC82B44A; Wed, 9 May 2001 16:20:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from rogue.ai.mit.edu (h00608c34f14d.ne.mediaone.net [24.147.23.171]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f49EJIm25512 for ; Wed, 9 May 2001 16:19:18 +0200 Received: from portnoy by rogue.ai.mit.edu with local (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian)) id 14xUnP-0000XE-00 for ; Wed, 09 May 2001 10:18:31 -0400 To: pdftex@tug.org From: Stephen Peters Message-ID: Lines: 20 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0802 (Gnus v5.8.2) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [pdftex] number too big -- anyone see this before? Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: 09 May 2001 10:18:30 -0400 In trying to include a JPEG image into a PDFLaTeX document from a Debian installation (marked as pdftex 14f-released-20000525), and get the following error: Warning: pdflatex: arithmetic: number too big Warning: pdflatex: arithmetic: number too big [...] The same files compile without error on a separate pdftex-13d installation. Has anyone seen something like this before? Or know how to fix it? I'd think it was corruption in the image file, but it displays fine in a wide variety of image programs. The problem files are all in http://www.portnoy.org/~portnoy/bugs/, if that helps. -- Stephen L. Peters portnoy@portnoy.org PGP fingerprint: A1BF 5A81 03E7 47CE 71E0 3BD4 8DA6 9268 5BB6 4BBE "Poodle: The other white meat." -- Sherman, Sherman's Lagoon _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 9-May-2001 14:53:16-GMT,2784;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA17907 for ; Wed, 9 May 2001 08:53:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 4C8AA2B450; Wed, 9 May 2001 16:54:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from jupiter.fsci.fuk.kindai.ac.jp (jupiter.fsci.fuk.kindai.ac.jp [157.13.51.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f49ErUm25754 for ; Wed, 9 May 2001 16:53:31 +0200 Received: by jupiter.fsci.fuk.kindai.ac.jp (8.9.3+3.2W/3.7W-kfsci) id XAA23318; Wed, 9 May 2001 23:54:46 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <200105091454.XAA23318@jupiter.fsci.fuk.kindai.ac.jp> To: portnoy@portnoy.org Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] number too big -- anyone see this before? In-Reply-To: Your message of "09 May 2001 10:18:30 -0400" References: X-Mailer: Mew version 1.70 on Emacs 19.34.1 / Mule 2.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Akira Kakuto Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 23:54:45 +0900 From: Stephen Peters Subject: [pdftex] number too big -- anyone see this before? > In trying to include a JPEG image into a PDFLaTeX document from a > Debian installation (marked as pdftex 14f-released-20000525), and get > the following error: > > Warning: pdflatex: arithmetic: number too big > Warning: pdflatex: arithmetic: number too big > [...] > > The same files compile without error on a separate pdftex-13d > installation. Has anyone seen something like this before? Or know > how to fix it? I'd think it was corruption in the image file, but it > displays fine in a wide variety of image programs. It seems to be a feature of macros. The following (direct use of primitives) will be OK. \documentclass{article} \begin{document} \pdfximage width \textwidth {testpic.jpg} \begin{center} \pdfrefximage\pdflastximage \end{center} \end{document} -- Akira Kakuto _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 9-May-2001 15:31:16-GMT,2463;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA18564 for ; Wed, 9 May 2001 09:31:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 9EEC92B44F; Wed, 9 May 2001 17:32:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from spring.river-valley.com ([202.88.232.42]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f49FV0m26016 for ; Wed, 9 May 2001 17:31:01 +0200 Received: from spring.river-valley.com (IDENT:cvr@spring.river-valley.com [192.168.1.209]) by spring.river-valley.com (8.11.2/8.8.7) with ESMTP id f49FUVL08392; Wed, 9 May 2001 21:00:34 +0530 From: Radhakrishnan CV To: Stephen Peters Cc: Subject: Re: [pdftex] number too big -- anyone see this before? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1993 FB10 3751 86B9 1B97 B599 0BA0 7022 B41A 2F1C X-GPG-URL: http://www.river-valley.com/gpg/cvr.gpg MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 21:00:31 +0530 (IST) On 9 May 2001 at 10:18, Stephen Peters wrote: > In trying to include a JPEG image into a PDFLaTeX document from a > Debian installation (marked as pdftex 14f-released-20000525), and get > the following error: > > Warning: pdflatex: arithmetic: number too big > Warning: pdflatex: arithmetic: number too big > [...] You could circumvent the problem by adding a line: \pdfimageresolution=72 so that the image appears in the pdf output. It was a bug in 14f which has been fixed in the subsequent versions. Radhakrishnan _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 9-May-2001 16:55:17-GMT,2781;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA20390 for ; Wed, 9 May 2001 10:55:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id CDBF72B457; Wed, 9 May 2001 18:56:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from moutvdom00.kundenserver.de (moutvdom00.kundenserver.de [195.20.224.149]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f49GtUm26526 for ; Wed, 9 May 2001 18:55:30 +0200 Received: from [195.20.224.220] (helo=mrvdom04.kundenserver.de) by moutvdom00.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 14xXEW-0004r1-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Wed, 9 May 2001 18:54:40 +0200 Received: from tardy.isd.uni-stuttgart.de ([129.69.110.190]) by mrvdom04.kundenserver.de with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 14xXEN-0001lw-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Wed, 9 May 2001 18:54:31 +0200 From: "Georg v. Tardy" To: pdftex@tug.org Lines: 26 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Kaufman Mail Warrior 3.61 Final Subject: [pdftex] Problems finding installation version of pdftex on windows Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 18:45:47 +0200 hi, this mail concerns a windows installation of pdftex. now (after 2 days) I give up and bother you with this question: I do not get pdftex properly installed. All installation instructions I found are base on files I don't find. This is what I got: a running version of miktex. pdftex-djgpp-20010417.zip (from ftp://ftp.muni.cz/pub/tex/local/cstug/thanh/pdftex/snapshots/20010417/) pdftexlib.zip (containing the texmf tree) the file texmf.cnf was found somwhere in the net, but not matching, so i had to insert the lines where the tex-pool and the texmf.cfg are found. then I was asked to increase the pool_size, what i did. now the generation of pdftex.fmt fails, as the file plain is not found (using pdftex -ini -fmt=pdftex plain \dump) where can I find a complete version of pdf-tex and a matching installation-instruction. thanks a lot in advance georg _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 9-May-2001 20:19:15-GMT,2329;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA24181 for ; Wed, 9 May 2001 14:19:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 48EA52AE98; Wed, 9 May 2001 22:20:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz ([147.251.4.33]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f49KJ3m27453 for ; Wed, 9 May 2001 22:19:04 +0200 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA12686; Wed, 9 May 2001 22:16:58 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA06967; Wed, 9 May 2001 22:16:59 +0200 (MET DST) From: Han The Thanh To: "Georg v. Tardy" Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] Problems finding installation version of pdftex on windows Message-ID: <20010509221659.C5837@anxur.fi.muni.cz> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from Georg@Tardy.de on Wed, May 09, 2001 at 06:45:47PM +0200 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 22:16:59 +0200 If you are using windows, why not to install fptex or miktex? It's much easier. There are many things that are needed to setup to run pdftex, and distributions like tetex, fptex or miktex simplifies much our life. The instructions in the manual are out-of-date. I should have updated it, but couldn't find time to do it. Thanh _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 10-May-2001 7:44:14-GMT,2816;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA00833 for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 01:43:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 18AF22AE98; Thu, 10 May 2001 09:44:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp-2.hut.fi (smtp-2.hut.fi [130.233.228.92]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4A7h6m29836 for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 09:43:06 +0200 Received: from james.hut.fi (james.hut.fi [130.233.173.1]) by smtp-2.hut.fi (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA87167 for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 10:42:13 +0300 (EEST) Received: (from jorma@localhost) by james.hut.fi (SGI-8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA12856; Thu, 10 May 2001 10:42:13 +0300 (EEST) To: pdftex@tug.org From: Jorma Laaksonen Organization: Helsinki University of Technology X-Home-Page: http://www.cis.hut.fi/jorma/ X-Face: +BUj?(:0%w8uoHDG-8R4F[."7YyYY66G:ZR:R@h^aQPez`e^wW0oKeudTTQz[fU*LWv V%=%9hZ&s:BJi1?y5OouuIXcRT|K$]tg^Gn|~2xjO(zH^5~oI6^KIM!qnuC#+!9 Message-ID: Lines: 21 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [pdftex] Current versions of supp-mis.tex and supp-pdf.tex ? Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: 10 May 2001 10:42:13 +0300 Hello! It seems that the versions of supp-mis.tex and supp-pdf.tex stored at http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/ and pointed to in http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/index.html are quite a bit older than those available in http://www.pragma-ade.com/context/cont-mpd.zip . Which ones should one use ? Should (or is) the situation clarified somewhere ? Yours, Jorma Laaksonen -- Jorma Laaksonen email: jorma.laaksonen@hut.fi Dr. of Science in Technology, Docent http://www.cis.hut.fi/jorma/ Laboratory of Computer and Information Science tel. +358-9-4513269 Helsinki University of Technology fax. +358-9-4513277 P.O.Box 5400, Fin-02015 HUT, Finland mob. +358-50-3058719 _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 10-May-2001 8:39:15-GMT,2404;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA01127 for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 02:39:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 1F8BC2AE93; Thu, 10 May 2001 10:40:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail2.ox.ac.uk [163.1.2.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4A8dRm30114 for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 10:39:27 +0200 Received: from heraldgate2.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.50] helo=frontend2.herald.ox.ac.uk ident=exim) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 14xly1-00008T-00; Thu, 10 May 2001 09:38:37 +0100 Received: from spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.15.17] helo=spqr) by frontend2.herald.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 14xly2-0002aC-00; Thu, 10 May 2001 09:38:38 +0100 From: Sebastian Rahtz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15098.21420.518808.834638@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> To: jorma.laaksonen@hut.fi Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] Current versions of supp-mis.tex and supp-pdf.tex ? In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.86 under Emacs 20.7.2 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 09:39:08 +0100 Jorma Laaksonen writes: > > It seems that the versions of supp-mis.tex and supp-pdf.tex stored at > http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/ and pointed to in > http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/index.html are quite a bit older > than those available in http://www.pragma-ade.com/context/cont-mpd.zip . I updated www.tug.org sebastian _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 10-May-2001 9:22:18-GMT,4290;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA01359 for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 03:22:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id EC16E2B45E; Thu, 10 May 2001 11:23:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp-2.hut.fi (smtp-2.hut.fi [130.233.228.92]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4A9KVm30385 for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 11:20:31 +0200 Received: from james.hut.fi (james.hut.fi [130.233.173.1]) by smtp-2.hut.fi (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA92985 for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 12:19:38 +0300 (EEST) Received: (from jorma@localhost) by james.hut.fi (SGI-8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA16330; Thu, 10 May 2001 12:18:17 +0300 (EEST) To: pdftex@tug.org Cc: Reinhard Kotucha References: <200102091509.JAA17045@merlin.ilstu.edu> <14980.14109.601584.253675@zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de> From: Jorma Laaksonen Organization: Helsinki University of Technology X-Home-Page: http://www.cis.hut.fi/jorma/ X-Face: +BUj?(:0%w8uoHDG-8R4F[."7YyYY66G:ZR:R@h^aQPez`e^wW0oKeudTTQz[fU*LWv V%=%9hZ&s:BJi1?y5OouuIXcRT|K$]tg^Gn|~2xjO(zH^5~oI6^KIM!qnuC#+!9 In-Reply-To: <14980.14109.601584.253675@zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de> Message-ID: Lines: 92 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [pdftex] Re: eepic and pdflatex Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: 10 May 2001 12:18:17 +0300 Reinhard Kotucha writes: > >>>>> "Don" == Don Robinson writes: > > > Is there any way I can use the eepic package and create pdf > > files that show these lines? I am using the current TeXLive > > 5.0. > > As Marc van Dongen said, the best way would be to use metapost. > > If you already have a lot of graphics done with eepic, you could use > dvips and epstopdf: > > Put the graphics into a LaTeX file, one figure per page and disable > page numbering. Process the file with latex, not pdflatex. Then run > the dvi file through dvips -E -i -S1. The parameters are explained in > dvips's manpage. You will get one eps file for each page with a tight > bounding box. These files can be converted to pdf with epstopdf. You > can then include the pdf files into your document as usual (using the > grapicx package). Hello! You don't mention here that epstopdf converts the fonts in the eepic graphics to Type3, which -- at least in my case -- leads to that the texts in the eepics won't print when included in the surrounding text. When I followed your guidelines I managed to produce pdf files that look and print good with Acrobat Reader 4.05/Linux. Also, when such pdfs are \includegraphics{}ed in my document they look good on the screen, but they don't print on paper! Also, "dvips -E" is not sufficient to extract correct bounding boxes because it only finds the bounding box of the characters and rules, not that of the graphic elemenents. I've instead used ps2epsi, which is more accurate. Here is a small example that demonstrates the problem. (In my real setting, the eepic have been produced a long time ago with gnuplot and I'm not anymore able to export them in a different format...) eepic.tex: ========== \documentclass{article} \usepackage{epic,eepic} \pagestyle{empty} \begin{document} .\par. % these are here only to help "dvips -E" manage the bounding box \begin{picture}(100,100)(0,0) \thicklines \path(0,0)(100,0)(100,100)(0,100)(0,0) \put(50,70){\makebox(0,0)[c]{Hello}} \put(50,30){\makebox(0,0)[c]{World!}} \end{picture} 10-May-2001 10:41:16-GMT,3197;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA01795 for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 04:41:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id CC5B92B459; Thu, 10 May 2001 12:42:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp3.xs4all.nl (smtp3.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.132]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4AAfYm30826 for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 12:41:34 +0200 Received: from server-1.pragma-ade.nl (s340-isdn2531.dial.xs4all.nl [194.109.189.227]) by smtp3.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA21958; Thu, 10 May 2001 12:40:43 +0200 (CEST) Received: from laptop-1 (laptop-1.pragma-ade.nl [200.1.1.25]) by server-1.pragma-ade.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA15563; Thu, 10 May 2001 12:35:36 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20010510123041.01494da0@server-1> X-Sender: hagen@server-1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) To: Jorma Laaksonen From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: [pdftex] Current versions of supp-mis.tex and supp-pdf.tex ? Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 12:30:41 +0200 At 10:42 AM 5/10/01 +0300, Jorma Laaksonen wrote: > >Hello! > >It seems that the versions of supp-mis.tex and supp-pdf.tex stored at >http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/ and pointed to in >http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/index.html are quite a bit older >than those available in http://www.pragma-ade.com/context/cont-mpd.zip . > >Which ones should one use ? Should (or is) the situation clarified >somewhere ? Those from our site are the latest [well, not really, since the real latest are in the beta archive] and they are mirrored at ctan. I wonder if there is still a need for copies at other locations. Also keep in mind, that some more advanced mp things are supported in mptopdf [which you can use to create stand alone graphics]. More on that in the makempy manual and the metafun manual, both at our site. Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma@wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 10-May-2001 10:43:32-GMT,3336;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA01632 for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 04:12:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 2531F2B45A; Thu, 10 May 2001 12:13:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from wisbech.cl.cam.ac.uk (mta1.cl.cam.ac.uk [128.232.0.15]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4AACmm30648 for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 12:12:48 +0200 Received: from pallas.cl.cam.ac.uk ([128.232.8.88] helo=cl.cam.ac.uk ident=rf) by wisbech.cl.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.092 #1) id 14xnQB-0007Xm-00; Thu, 10 May 2001 11:11:47 +0100 To: Jorma Laaksonen Cc: pdftex@tug.org, Reinhard Kotucha Subject: Re: [pdftex] Re: eepic and pdflatex In-Reply-To: Your message of "10 May 2001 12:18:17 +0300." From: Robin Fairbairns Message-Id: Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 11:11:47 +0100 > Reinhard Kotucha writes: > > > Put the graphics into a LaTeX file, one figure per page and disable > > page numbering. Process the file with latex, not pdflatex. Then run > > the dvi file through dvips -E -i -S1. The parameters are explained in > > dvips's manpage. You will get one eps file for each page with a tight > > bounding box. These files can be converted to pdf with epstopdf. You > > can then include the pdf files into your document as usual (using the > > grapicx package). > > You don't mention here that epstopdf converts the fonts in the eepic > graphics to Type3, which -- at least in my case -- leads to that > the texts in the eepics won't print when included in the surrounding > text. you need ghostscript >=6.01 (7.00 is current); gs 5.50 and earlier converted all but times and the like to type 3 fonts. > Also, "dvips -E" is not sufficient to extract correct bounding boxes > because it only finds the bounding box of the characters and rules, > not that of the graphic elemenents. I've instead used ps2epsi, which > is more accurate. i reckon dvips -E could do better, but it would appear you're right (though the problem's never bitten me...) > Here is a small example that demonstrates the problem. (In my real > setting, the eepic have been produced a long time ago with gnuplot > and I'm not anymore able to export them in a different format...) that you're using eepic is irrelevant. any font other than the "basic laserwriter set" will exhibit this problem. _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 10-May-2001 10:52:16-GMT,4020;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA01861 for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 04:52:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 9FF6B2B461; Thu, 10 May 2001 12:53:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp-2.hut.fi (smtp-2.hut.fi [130.233.228.92]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4AAqjm30930 for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 12:52:45 +0200 Received: from james.hut.fi (james.hut.fi [130.233.173.1]) by smtp-2.hut.fi (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA98474; Thu, 10 May 2001 13:51:54 +0300 (EEST) Received: (from jorma@localhost) by james.hut.fi (SGI-8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA18358; Thu, 10 May 2001 13:51:54 +0300 (EEST) To: Robin Fairbairns Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] Re: eepic and pdflatex References: From: Jorma Laaksonen Organization: Helsinki University of Technology X-Home-Page: http://www.cis.hut.fi/jorma/ X-Face: +BUj?(:0%w8uoHDG-8R4F[."7YyYY66G:ZR:R@h^aQPez`e^wW0oKeudTTQz[fU*LWv V%=%9hZ&s:BJi1?y5OouuIXcRT|K$]tg^Gn|~2xjO(zH^5~oI6^KIM!qnuC#+!9 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Lines: 45 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: 10 May 2001 13:51:54 +0300 Robin Fairbairns writes: > > Reinhard Kotucha writes: > > > > > Put the graphics into a LaTeX file, one figure per page and disable > > > page numbering. Process the file with latex, not pdflatex. Then run > > > the dvi file through dvips -E -i -S1. The parameters are explained in > > > dvips's manpage. You will get one eps file for each page with a tight > > > bounding box. These files can be converted to pdf with epstopdf. You > > > can then include the pdf files into your document as usual (using the > > > grapicx package). > > > > You don't mention here that epstopdf converts the fonts in the eepic > > graphics to Type3, which -- at least in my case -- leads to that > > the texts in the eepics won't print when included in the surrounding > > text. > > you need ghostscript >=6.01 (7.00 is current); gs 5.50 and earlier > converted all but times and the like to type 3 fonts. I'm using ghostscript 7.00. What is it there that triggers ghostscript to produce other than Type3 fonts ? When I have a file \documentclass{article}\pagestyle{empty}\begin{document}X\end{document} which I latex, dvips -E, and epstopdf. The resulting file contains eg. the following two lines: < Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA01882 for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 04:55:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 323A12B469; Thu, 10 May 2001 12:56:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail4.ox.ac.uk [163.1.2.33]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4AAtbm30986 for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 12:55:37 +0200 Received: from heraldgate2.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.50] helo=frontend2.herald.ox.ac.uk ident=exim) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 14xo5n-0007je-00; Thu, 10 May 2001 11:54:47 +0100 Received: from spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.15.17] helo=spqr) by frontend2.herald.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 14xo5p-00075s-00; Thu, 10 May 2001 11:54:49 +0100 From: Sebastian Rahtz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15098.29590.204870.216038@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> To: jorma.laaksonen@hut.fi Cc: Robin.Fairbairns@cl.cam.ac.uk, pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] Re: eepic and pdflatex In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.86 under Emacs 20.7.2 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 11:55:18 +0100 Jorma Laaksonen writes: > I'm using ghostscript 7.00. What is it there that triggers ghostscript to > produce other than Type3 fonts ? When I have a file > > \documentclass{article}\pagestyle{empty}\begin{document}X\end{document} > > which I latex, dvips -E, and epstopdf. The resulting file contains eg. you need "dvips -E -Pwww" or the like. if you dont put Type1 fonts into the PS file, then gs cant help you..... sebastian _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 10-May-2001 11:01:27-GMT,3486;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA01933 for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 05:01:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 4B5632B478; Thu, 10 May 2001 13:02:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp-2.hut.fi (smtp-2.hut.fi [130.233.228.92]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4AB12m31044 for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 13:01:02 +0200 Received: from james.hut.fi (james.hut.fi [130.233.173.1]) by smtp-2.hut.fi (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA98921; Thu, 10 May 2001 14:00:12 +0300 (EEST) Received: (from jorma@localhost) by james.hut.fi (SGI-8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA20550; Thu, 10 May 2001 14:00:12 +0300 (EEST) To: Hans Hagen Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] Current versions of supp-mis.tex and supp-pdf.tex ? References: <3.0.6.32.20010510123041.01494da0@server-1> From: Jorma Laaksonen Organization: Helsinki University of Technology X-Home-Page: http://www.cis.hut.fi/jorma/ X-Face: +BUj?(:0%w8uoHDG-8R4F[."7YyYY66G:ZR:R@h^aQPez`e^wW0oKeudTTQz[fU*LWv V%=%9hZ&s:BJi1?y5OouuIXcRT|K$]tg^Gn|~2xjO(zH^5~oI6^KIM!qnuC#+!9 In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20010510123041.01494da0@server-1> Message-ID: Lines: 37 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: 10 May 2001 14:00:11 +0300 Hans Hagen writes: > At 10:42 AM 5/10/01 +0300, Jorma Laaksonen wrote: > > > >Hello! > > > >It seems that the versions of supp-mis.tex and supp-pdf.tex stored at > >http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/ and pointed to in > >http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/index.html are quite a bit older > >than those available in http://www.pragma-ade.com/context/cont-mpd.zip . > > > >Which ones should one use ? Should (or is) the situation clarified > >somewhere ? > > Those from our site are the latest [well, not really, since the real latest > are in the beta archive] and they are mirrored at ctan. > I wonder if there is still a need for copies at other locations. http://www.ucc.ie/cgi-bin/ctan?server=ctan.tug.org%2Ftex-archive&term=supp-pdf.tex and ftp://ctan.tug.org/tex-archive/macros/pdftex/graphics/ show that the files are dated in July 1998. Perhaps they should be updated too. Yours, Jorma -- Jorma Laaksonen email: jorma.laaksonen@hut.fi Dr. of Science in Technology, Docent http://www.cis.hut.fi/jorma/ Laboratory of Computer and Information Science tel. +358-9-4513269 Helsinki University of Technology fax. +358-9-4513277 P.O.Box 5400, Fin-02015 HUT, Finland mob. +358-50-3058719 _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 10-May-2001 11:20:17-GMT,3416;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA02033 for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 05:20:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 0EF8D2B467; Thu, 10 May 2001 13:21:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp-2.hut.fi (smtp-2.hut.fi [130.233.228.92]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4ABKTm31183 for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 13:20:29 +0200 Received: from james.hut.fi (james.hut.fi [130.233.173.1]) by smtp-2.hut.fi (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA99990; Thu, 10 May 2001 14:19:40 +0300 (EEST) Received: (from jorma@localhost) by james.hut.fi (SGI-8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA27114; Thu, 10 May 2001 14:19:39 +0300 (EEST) To: Sebastian Rahtz Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] Re: eepic and pdflatex References: <15098.29590.204870.216038@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> From: Jorma Laaksonen Organization: Helsinki University of Technology X-Home-Page: http://www.cis.hut.fi/jorma/ X-Face: +BUj?(:0%w8uoHDG-8R4F[."7YyYY66G:ZR:R@h^aQPez`e^wW0oKeudTTQz[fU*LWv V%=%9hZ&s:BJi1?y5OouuIXcRT|K$]tg^Gn|~2xjO(zH^5~oI6^KIM!qnuC#+!9 In-Reply-To: <15098.29590.204870.216038@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Message-ID: Lines: 31 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: 10 May 2001 14:19:39 +0300 Sebastian Rahtz writes: > Jorma Laaksonen writes: > > I'm using ghostscript 7.00. What is it there that triggers ghostscript to > > produce other than Type3 fonts ? When I have a file > > > > \documentclass{article}\pagestyle{empty}\begin{document}X\end{document} > > > > which I latex, dvips -E, and epstopdf. The resulting file contains eg. > > you need "dvips -E -Pwww" or the like. if you dont put Type1 fonts > into the PS file, then gs cant help you..... > > sebastian Thank you VERY MUCH. That www printer seems to be a good feature which is not very well documented... I wish someone could someday update the FAQ at http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/pdfTeX-FAQ.pdf . Yours, Jorma Laaksonen -- Jorma Laaksonen email: jorma.laaksonen@hut.fi Dr. of Science in Technology, Docent http://www.cis.hut.fi/jorma/ Laboratory of Computer and Information Science tel. +358-9-4513269 Helsinki University of Technology fax. +358-9-4513277 P.O.Box 5400, Fin-02015 HUT, Finland mob. +358-50-3058719 _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 10-May-2001 11:24:17-GMT,2420;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA02058 for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 05:24:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id C02E12B45E; Thu, 10 May 2001 13:25:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from wisbech.cl.cam.ac.uk (mta1.cl.cam.ac.uk [128.232.0.15]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4ABOWm31245 for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 13:24:32 +0200 Received: from pallas.cl.cam.ac.uk ([128.232.8.88] helo=cl.cam.ac.uk ident=rf) by wisbech.cl.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.092 #1) id 14xoXk-0008Ks-00; Thu, 10 May 2001 12:23:40 +0100 To: Jorma Laaksonen Cc: Sebastian Rahtz , pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] Re: eepic and pdflatex In-Reply-To: Your message of "10 May 2001 14:19:39 +0300." From: Robin Fairbairns Message-Id: Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 12:23:39 +0100 Jorma Laaksonen writes: > Sebastian Rahtz writes: > > you need "dvips -E -Pwww" or the like. if you dont put Type1 fonts > > into the PS file, then gs cant help you..... > > Thank you VERY MUCH. That www printer seems to be a good feature which > is not very well documented... > > I wish someone could someday update the FAQ at > http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/pdfTeX-FAQ.pdf . it's not really a pdftex-specific issue. it's in my faq: http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?label=dvips-pdf and probably in the french and german ones, too. _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 10-May-2001 11:26:50-GMT,2585;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA02081 for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 05:26:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 34CC32B47F; Thu, 10 May 2001 13:27:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail3.ox.ac.uk [129.67.1.180]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4ABQ5m31289 for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 13:26:05 +0200 Received: from heraldgate2.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.50] helo=frontend2.herald.ox.ac.uk ident=exim) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 14xoZG-00037X-00; Thu, 10 May 2001 12:25:14 +0100 Received: from spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.15.17] helo=spqr) by frontend2.herald.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 14xoZF-00083L-00; Thu, 10 May 2001 12:25:13 +0100 From: Sebastian Rahtz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15098.31418.55237.992778@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> To: jorma.laaksonen@hut.fi Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] Re: eepic and pdflatex In-Reply-To: References: <15098.29590.204870.216038@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> X-Mailer: VM 6.86 under Emacs 20.7.2 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 12:25:46 +0100 Jorma Laaksonen writes: > Thank you VERY MUCH. That www printer seems to be a good feature which > is not very well documented... yes, its one of those things that are so fundamental that one forgets to tell people about them! the LaTeX Web Companion discusses it (p.30). > I wish someone could someday update the FAQ at > http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/pdfTeX-FAQ.pdf . so much work, so little time.... sebastian _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 10-May-2001 12:51:16-GMT,2936;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA02666 for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 06:51:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 535EC2B461; Thu, 10 May 2001 14:52:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from wisbech.cl.cam.ac.uk (mta1.cl.cam.ac.uk [128.232.0.15]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4ACp5m31723 for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 14:51:05 +0200 Received: from pallas.cl.cam.ac.uk ([128.232.8.88] helo=cl.cam.ac.uk ident=rf) by wisbech.cl.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.092 #1) id 14xptV-0000a1-00; Thu, 10 May 2001 13:50:13 +0100 To: Jorma Laaksonen Cc: Hans Hagen , pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] Current versions of supp-mis.tex and supp-pdf.tex ? In-Reply-To: Your message of "10 May 2001 14:00:11 +0300." From: Robin Fairbairns Message-Id: Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 13:50:13 +0100 > > Those from our site are the latest [well, not really, since the real latest > > are in the beta archive] and they are mirrored at ctan. > > I wonder if there is still a need for copies at other locations. > > http://www.ucc.ie/cgi-bin/ctan?server=ctan.tug.org%2Ftex-archive&term=supp-pdf.tex > > and > > ftp://ctan.tug.org/tex-archive/macros/pdftex/graphics/ which are the same place, of course > show that the files are dated in July 1998. Perhaps they should be > updated too. i've just pulled the latest copies of supp-mis and supp-pdf from hans's "current" (i.e., not beta) context .zip file and stuffed them into macros/pdftex/graphics; the change will make its way across the atlantic in a small number of hours ... or you could try cam.ctan.org which is where i did the installation. the new files are dated february of this year. i *hate* that directory. it mostly consists of replicas of things to be found elsewhere, and is always causing consistency problems. however, i _will_ try to reinstate these files if i notice in future that they've changed when we mirror a new set of context zip files from hans's site. _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 10-May-2001 15:41:17-GMT,2829;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA04348 for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 09:41:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id F03C72B459; Thu, 10 May 2001 17:42:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp3.xs4all.nl (smtp3.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.132]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4AFfVm32610 for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 17:41:32 +0200 Received: from server-1.pragma-ade.nl (s340-modem3108.dial.xs4all.nl [194.109.172.36]) by smtp3.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA07242; Thu, 10 May 2001 17:40:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: from laptop-1 (laptop-1.pragma-ade.nl [200.1.1.25]) by server-1.pragma-ade.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA16697; Thu, 10 May 2001 17:26:23 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20010510172253.01621ca0@server-1> X-Sender: hagen@server-1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) To: Jorma Laaksonen From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: [pdftex] Current versions of supp-mis.tex and supp-pdf.tex ? Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: References: <3.0.6.32.20010510123041.01494da0@server-1> <3.0.6.32.20010510123041.01494da0@server-1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 17:22:53 +0200 At 02:00 PM 5/10/01 +0300, Jorma Laaksonen wrote: >show that the files are dated in July 1998. Perhaps they should be >updated too. hm, muts make a note of that, since i seldom update those numbers, filesize is a better indicator; also, for plain/latex users there have not been that many changes, most extensions are for context (or go into other files) Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma@wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 10-May-2001 15:41:57-GMT,3251;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA04356 for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 09:41:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 67BB12B45E; Thu, 10 May 2001 17:42:03 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp3.xs4all.nl (smtp3.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.132]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4AFfWm32614 for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 17:41:32 +0200 Received: from server-1.pragma-ade.nl (s340-modem3108.dial.xs4all.nl [194.109.172.36]) by smtp3.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA07247; Thu, 10 May 2001 17:40:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: from laptop-1 (laptop-1.pragma-ade.nl [200.1.1.25]) by server-1.pragma-ade.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA16696; Thu, 10 May 2001 17:26:23 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20010510171947.015d21a0@server-1> X-Sender: hagen@server-1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) To: Robin Fairbairns From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: [pdftex] Current versions of supp-mis.tex and supp-pdf.tex ? Cc: Jorma Laaksonen , pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 17:19:47 +0200 At 01:50 PM 5/10/01 +0100, Robin Fairbairns wrote: >i *hate* that directory. it mostly consists of replicas of things to >be found elsewhere, and is always causing consistency problems. since today pdftex is widely spread on ctan mirrors, and part of distributions like texlive, it may make sense to remove those duplicates [even this list is becoming a general tex how to do this or that list and may become obsolete in the future] >however, i _will_ try to reinstate these files if i notice in future >that they've changed when we mirror a new set of context zip files >from hans's site. btw, in order to avoid conflicts, these files are to go in the (local) texmf tree under .../tex/context/base/supp-*.tex Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma@wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 11-May-2001 10:58:46-GMT,3839;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA16290 for ; Fri, 11 May 2001 04:58:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id DC55C2AE82; Thu, 10 May 2001 22:24:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from crufty.research.bell-labs.com (ns2.research.bell-labs.com [204.178.16.49]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f4AKNMm01295 for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 22:23:22 +0200 Received: from scummy.research.bell-labs.com ([135.104.2.10]) by crufty; Thu May 10 16:18:53 EDT 2001 Received: from tango.research.bell-labs.com ([135.104.75.12]) by scummy; Thu May 10 16:21:34 EDT 2001 Received: from japb-pcmh.research.bell-labs.com (IDENT:postfix@japb-pcmh.research.bell-labs.com [135.104.43.130]) by tango.research.bell-labs.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA07716 for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 16:21:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: by japb-pcmh.research.bell-labs.com (Postfix, from userid 46297) id 74556C8139; Thu, 10 May 2001 16:21:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Javier Pinto To: pdftex@tug.org Message-Id: <20010510202109.74556C8139@japb-pcmh.research.bell-labs.com> Subject: [pdftex] newbie question Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 16:21:09 -0400 (EDT) Hi, I am using pdflatex and have problems including pictures. Following the instructions on the pdfTeX-FAQ, I wrote the following test: \documentclass{article} \usepackage[pdftex]{graphicx} \begin{document} \includegraphics{interface.pdf} \end{document} interface.pdf is a file that acroread has no problems showing me. However, the resulting pdf file produced by pdflatex is all screwed up. The figure comes out tilted and totally blackened. In case it matters, the pdflatex output is below. I'd appreciate any help. Thanks, Javier. Running `PdfLaTeX' on `x' with ``pdflatex x'' This is pdfTeX, Version 3.14159-13d (Web2C 7.3.1) (x.tex[/usr/share/texmf/pdftex/config/pdftex.cfg] LaTeX2e <1998/12/01> patch level 1 Babel and hyphenation patterns for american, french, german, ngerman, i talian, nohyphenation, loaded. (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/article.cls Document Class: article 1999/01/07 v1.4a Standard LaTeX document class (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/size10.clo)) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/graphics/graphicx.sty (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/graphics/keyval.sty) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/graphics/graphics.sty (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/graphics/trig.sty) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/config/graphics.cfg) (pdftex.def))) (x.aux) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/supp-pdf.tex (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/supp-mis.tex loading : Context Support Macros / Missing ) loading : Context Support Macros / PDF ) Overfull \hbox (24.32288pt too wide) in paragraph at lines 4--5 [][] [1[/usr/share/texmf/dvips/config/pdftex.map] <./interface.pdf>] (x.aux) ) (see the transcript file for additional information) Output written on x.pdf (1 page, 12668 bytes). Transcript written on x.log. PdfLaTeX finished at Thu May 10 16:14:15 _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 11-May-2001 11:15:25-GMT,4413;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA16425 for ; Fri, 11 May 2001 05:15:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 3DCFE2B45E; Fri, 11 May 2001 09:47:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from lorica.ucc.usyd.edu.au (lorica.ucc.usyd.edu.au [129.78.64.15]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4B7k7m03833 for ; Fri, 11 May 2001 09:46:08 +0200 Received: from pilum.ucc.usyd.edu.au (IDENT:root@pilum.ucc.usyd.edu.au [129.78.64.178]) by lorica.ucc.usyd.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA13536; Fri, 11 May 2001 17:45:05 +1000 (EST) Received: (from wwwmail@localhost) by pilum.ucc.usyd.edu.au (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f4B7jD528134; Fri, 11 May 2001 17:45:13 +1000 To: Javier Pinto Subject: Re: [pdftex] newbie question Message-ID: <989567113.3afb9889746d6@www-mail.usyd.edu.au> From: rhowlett@mail.usyd.edu.au Cc: pdftex@tug.org References: <20010510202109.74556C8139@japb-pcmh.research.bell-labs.com> In-Reply-To: <20010510202109.74556C8139@japb-pcmh.research.bell-labs.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: IMP/PHP IMAP webmail program 2.2.3 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 17:45:13 +1000 (EST) pdfTeX, Version 3.14159-13d (Web2C 7.3.1) is by now very old; so the first thing to do is update it and also update the graphics package. Quoting Javier Pinto : > Hi, > > I am using pdflatex and have problems including pictures. Following > the > instructions on the pdfTeX-FAQ, I wrote the following test: > > \documentclass{article} > \usepackage[pdftex]{graphicx} > \begin{document} > \includegraphics{interface.pdf} > \end{document} > > interface.pdf is a file that acroread has no problems showing > me. However, the resulting pdf file produced by pdflatex is all > screwed > up. The figure comes out tilted and totally blackened. In case it > matters, the pdflatex output is below. I'd appreciate any help. > > > Thanks, Javier. > > Running `PdfLaTeX' on `x' with ``pdflatex x'' > This is pdfTeX, Version 3.14159-13d (Web2C 7.3.1) > (x.tex[/usr/share/texmf/pdftex/config/pdftex.cfg] > LaTeX2e <1998/12/01> patch level 1 > Babel and hyphenation patterns for american, french, german, > ngerman, i > talian, nohyphenation, loaded. > (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/article.cls > Document Class: article 1999/01/07 v1.4a Standard LaTeX document class > (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/size10.clo)) > (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/graphics/graphicx.sty > (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/graphics/keyval.sty) > (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/graphics/graphics.sty > (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/graphics/trig.sty) > (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/config/graphics.cfg) (pdftex.def))) > (x.aux) > (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/supp-pdf.tex > (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/supp-mis.tex > loading : Context Support Macros / Missing > ) > loading : Context Support Macros / PDF > ) > Overfull \hbox (24.32288pt too wide) in paragraph at lines 4--5 > [][] > [1[/usr/share/texmf/dvips/config/pdftex.map] <./interface.pdf>] (x.aux) > ) > (see the transcript file for additional information) > Output written on x.pdf (1 page, 12668 bytes). > Transcript written on x.log. > > PdfLaTeX finished at Thu May 10 16:14:15 > > _______________________________________________ > pdftex mailing list > pdftex@tug.org > http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex > ------------------------------------------------- This mail sent through IMP: www-mail.usyd.edu.au _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 11-May-2001 13:08:15-GMT,3894;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA17169 for ; Fri, 11 May 2001 07:08:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 98E9B2B450; Fri, 11 May 2001 15:09:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from bioserver1.biology.usu.edu (bioserver1.biology.usu.edu [129.123.16.2]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4BD8rm05339 for ; Fri, 11 May 2001 15:08:54 +0200 Received: by bioserver1.biology.usu.edu with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 10 May 2001 17:03:54 -0600 Message-ID: <3AFB1EC9.FB3DFFFB@biology.usu.edu> From: Jim Haefner To: pdfTeX MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Subject: [pdftex] fonts: off topic Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 17:05:45 -0600 I apologize for an off topic question, but would appreciate being pointed to the right documentation... The following used to work, before a major upgrade; I intend to use the adobe fonts for sf and tt declarations: \documentclass[11pt]{article} \renewcommand{\ttdefault}{pcr} \renewcommand{\sfdefault}{phv} \renewcommand{\rmdefault}{cmr} \begin{document} \texttt{Hello tt} \textrm{Hello rm} \textsf{Hello sf} \end{document} But now I get the following errors: This is pdfTeX, Version 3.14159-14h-released-20010417 (Web2C 7.3.3.1) (./tfont.tex{/usr/share/texmf/pdftex/config/pdftex.cfg} LaTeX2e <1999/12/01> patch level 1 Babel and hyphenation patterns for american, french, german, ngerman, i talian, nohyphenation, loaded. 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--------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 13-May-2001 13:58:14-GMT,2858;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA07006 for ; Sun, 13 May 2001 07:58:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id BC8A42AE82; Sun, 13 May 2001 15:59:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp8.xs4all.nl (smtp8.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.134]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4DDw9m20139 for ; Sun, 13 May 2001 15:58:10 +0200 Received: from server-1.pragma-ade.nl (s340-isdn2983.dial.xs4all.nl [194.109.191.167]) by smtp8.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA03607; Sun, 13 May 2001 15:57:17 +0200 (CEST) Received: from laptop-1 ([200.1.1.42]) by server-1.pragma-ade.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA27269; Sun, 13 May 2001 15:40:41 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20010513135026.016cb460@server-1> X-Sender: hagen@server-1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) To: Robert Howlett From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: [pdftex] movies Cc: pdfTeX mailing list In-Reply-To: <3AFE1E6A.4B9C733B@mail.usyd.edu.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 13:50:26 +0200 At 03:40 PM 5/13/01 +1000, Robert Howlett wrote: >Hello, > >Out of curiosity only, I tried to put a "movie annotation" into >a pdf file. I can get it to work when the movie file is there >as an external file, but when I try to embed the movie file >into the pdf file acrobat reader still looks for an external file. >Is there a way to get it to use an embedded file? no, but pdf 1.4 suggests that it can be done, however, moving a 40 Meg movie into a pdffile (can be done) is no real fun, and downloading such a file is a pain. Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma@wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 14-May-2001 2:09:15-GMT,3330;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA11040 for ; Sun, 13 May 2001 20:09:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id C08792AE8C; Mon, 14 May 2001 04:10:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from nika.frontier.iarc.uaf.edu (nika.frontier.iarc.uaf.edu [137.229.94.16]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4E29vm22423 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 04:09:58 +0200 Received: by nika.frontier.iarc.uaf.edu (Postfix, from userid 1112) id F109A14168; Sun, 13 May 2001 18:09:22 -0800 (AKDT) To: pdftex@tug.org Message-ID: <20010513180922.A9373@iarc.uaf.edu> Mail-Followup-To: cswingle@iarc.uaf.edu, pdftex@tug.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i From: cswingle@iarc.uaf.edu (Christopher S. Swingley) Subject: [pdftex] pdcfsel and pdftex (pdftex and fonts) Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 18:09:22 -0800 Hi! I've been reading Alan Hoenig's excellent TeX Unbound book, and came across the pdcfsel macro file that allows you to change fonts in an easy "LaTeX" sort of way, while still using plain TeX. My first test was to format a document using Euler math and the Concrete fonts (ccr, ccsl, etc.). It runs fine with TeX and I can view / print it, but when I run it through pdftex I get: Warning: pdftex (file ccsl10): Font ccsl10 at 600 not found Warning: pdftex (file cccsc10): Font cccsc10 at 600 not found Warning: pdftex (file ccr10): Font ccr10 at 444 not found Warning: pdftex (file ccr10): Font ccr10 at 600 not found and the PDF file is unviewable. I'm using pdfTeX 3.14159-14f. Here's the top of the file: \input pdcfsel % Euler math with Concrete text \def\mathtemplate{% \@\m{rm}{ccr10}\@\m{it}{ccti10}% \@\m{tt}{cmtt9}\@\m{sl}{ccsl10}% \@\M{mi}{eurm10}\@\M{sy}{cmsy10}% } \xfontset{scriptscript}\mathtemplate{6} \xfontset{script}\mathtemplate{7.4} \fontset{body}% \mathtemplate{10}{12pt}{script}{scriptscript} \bodyfonts Any thoughts? What does it mean when pdftex says "Font xxx at YYY not found", and what does one need to do to make them available? Thanks very much, Chris -- Christopher S. Swingley 930 Koyukuk Drive System / Network Manager University of Alaska Fairbanks IARC -- Frontier Program Fairbanks, AK 99775 phone: 907-474-2689 fax: 907-474-2643 email: cswingle@iarc.uaf.edu GNUPG and PGP2 keys at my web site web: http://www.frontier.iarc.uaf.edu/~cswingle _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 14-May-2001 10:10:14-GMT,3412;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA14269 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 04:10:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id AFD8E2AE8B; Mon, 14 May 2001 12:11:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from lorica.ucc.usyd.edu.au (lorica.ucc.usyd.edu.au [129.78.64.15]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4EAA9m24012 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 12:10:10 +0200 Received: from pilum.ucc.usyd.edu.au (IDENT:root@pilum.ucc.usyd.edu.au [129.78.64.178]) by lorica.ucc.usyd.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA27811; Mon, 14 May 2001 20:09:04 +1000 (EST) Received: (from wwwmail@localhost) by pilum.ucc.usyd.edu.au (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f4EA9EH31893; Mon, 14 May 2001 20:09:14 +1000 To: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: [pdftex] movies Message-ID: <989834953.3affaec9f1bc8@www-mail.usyd.edu.au> From: rhowlett@mail.usyd.edu.au Cc: Robert Howlett , pdfTeX mailing list References: <3.0.6.32.20010513135026.016cb460@server-1> In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20010513135026.016cb460@server-1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: IMP/PHP IMAP webmail program 2.2.3 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 20:09:13 +1000 (EST) Quoting Hans Hagen : > At 03:40 PM 5/13/01 +1000, Robert Howlett wrote: > >Hello, > > > >Out of curiosity only, I tried to put a "movie annotation" into > >a pdf file. I can get it to work when the movie file is there > >as an external file, but when I try to embed the movie file > >into the pdf file acrobat reader still looks for an external file. > >Is there a way to get it to use an embedded file? > > no, but pdf 1.4 suggests that it can be done, however, moving a 40 Meg > movie into a pdffile (can be done) is no real fun, and downloading such > a > file is a pain. > > Hans > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | > pragma@wxs.nl I can imagine someone wanting to embed a very short movie clip, though I don't envisage ever wanting to do so myself! Bob > Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The > Netherlands > tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | > www.pragma-ade.com > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > pdftex mailing list > pdftex@tug.org > http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex > ------------------------------------------------- This mail sent through IMP: www-mail.usyd.edu.au _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 14-May-2001 15:50:16-GMT,3312;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA18043 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 09:50:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id BDE222AE82; Mon, 14 May 2001 17:51:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4EFopm25444 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 17:50:51 +0200 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA03637; Mon, 14 May 2001 17:49:58 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA04987; Mon, 14 May 2001 17:49:58 +0200 (MET DST) From: Han The Thanh To: Jim Haefner Cc: pdfTeX Subject: Re: [pdftex] fonts: off topic Message-ID: <20010514174957.D1240@anxur.fi.muni.cz> References: <3AFB1EC9.FB3DFFFB@biology.usu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <3AFB1EC9.FB3DFFFB@biology.usu.edu>; from jhaefner@biology.usu.edu on Thu, May 10, 2001 at 05:05:45PM -0600 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 17:49:58 +0200 > Warning: pdflatex (file phvr7t): Font phvr7t at 657 not found > > Warning: pdflatex (file pcrr7t): Font pcrr7t at 657 not found > Output written on tfont.pdf (1 page, 4467 bytes). > > Apparently, I am not using the correct encoding. My pdftex.map file > contains lines like: > > pcrb8r Courier-Bold "TeXBase1Encoding ReEncodeFont" <8r.enc > pcrb8y Courier-Bold "TeXnANSIEncoding ReEncodeFont" pcrbo8r Courier-BoldOblique "TeXBase1Encoding ReEncodeFont" <8r.enc > pcrbo8y Courier-BoldOblique "TeXnANSIEncoding ReEncodeFont" pcrr8r Courier "TeXBase1Encoding ReEncodeFont" <8r.enc > pcrr8rn NimbusMonL-Regu ".85 ExtendFont TeXBase1Encoding ReEncodeFont" > <8r.enc pcrr8y Courier "TeXnANSIEncoding ReEncodeFont" pcrro8r Courier-Oblique "TeXBase1Encoding ReEncodeFont" <8r.enc > pcrro8y Courier-Oblique "TeXnANSIEncoding ReEncodeFont" > I don't have a file like: 7t.enc. What am I doing wrong? pdftex cannot find virtual fonts (pcrr7t.vf and the likes). But I cannot tell exactly why. You can try: pdflatex -kp=-1 tfont 2>f.txt and have a look into f.txt to check what is wrong. Sorry, this is rather system-dependent and I cannot help much here. Thanh _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 14-May-2001 16:10:14-GMT,3474;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA18441 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 10:10:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id A507F2AE8C; Mon, 14 May 2001 18:11:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4EGAGm26100 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 18:10:16 +0200 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA06285; Mon, 14 May 2001 18:09:23 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA06644; Mon, 14 May 2001 18:09:23 +0200 (MET DST) From: Han The Thanh To: cswingle@iarc.uaf.edu, pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] pdcfsel and pdftex (pdftex and fonts) Message-ID: <20010514180923.B6006@anxur.fi.muni.cz> References: <20010513180922.A9373@iarc.uaf.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20010513180922.A9373@iarc.uaf.edu>; from cswingle@iarc.uaf.edu on Sun, May 13, 2001 at 06:09:22PM -0800 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 18:09:23 +0200 > I've been reading Alan Hoenig's excellent TeX Unbound book, and came > across the pdcfsel macro file that allows you to change fonts in > an easy "LaTeX" sort of way, while still using plain TeX. My first > test was to format a document using Euler math and the Concrete fonts > (ccr, ccsl, etc.). It runs fine with TeX and I can view / print it, > but when I run it through pdftex I get: > > Warning: pdftex (file ccsl10): Font ccsl10 at 600 not found > Warning: pdftex (file cccsc10): Font cccsc10 at 600 not found > Warning: pdftex (file ccr10): Font ccr10 at 444 not found > Warning: pdftex (file ccr10): Font ccr10 at 600 not found > > and the PDF file is unviewable. I'm using pdfTeX 3.14159-14f. > Here's the top of the file: > > \input pdcfsel > > % Euler math with Concrete text > \def\mathtemplate{% > \@\m{rm}{ccr10}\@\m{it}{ccti10}% > \@\m{tt}{cmtt9}\@\m{sl}{ccsl10}% > \@\M{mi}{eurm10}\@\M{sy}{cmsy10}% > } > > \xfontset{scriptscript}\mathtemplate{6} > \xfontset{script}\mathtemplate{7.4} > \fontset{body}% > \mathtemplate{10}{12pt}{script}{scriptscript} > > \bodyfonts > > Any thoughts? What does it mean when pdftex says "Font xxx at YYY > not found", and what does one need to do to make them available? the pk version of the above fonts are not available. You can create them by adding MKTEXPK = 1 into your texmf.cnf and rerun pdftex. HTH, Thanh _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 14-May-2001 18:21:14-GMT,3111;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA21189 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 12:21:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 817242AE98; Mon, 14 May 2001 20:22:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from nika.frontier.iarc.uaf.edu (nika.frontier.iarc.uaf.edu [137.229.94.16]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4EIL6m30184 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 20:21:06 +0200 Received: by nika.frontier.iarc.uaf.edu (Postfix, from userid 1112) id 2CAC31416C; Mon, 14 May 2001 10:20:38 -0800 (AKDT) From: "Christopher S. Swingley" To: Han The Thanh , pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] pdcfsel and pdftex (pdftex and fonts) Message-ID: <20010514102038.A26975@iarc.uaf.edu> Mail-Followup-To: "Christopher S. Swingley" , Han The Thanh , pdftex@tug.org References: <20010513180922.A9373@iarc.uaf.edu> <20010514180923.B6006@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i In-Reply-To: <20010514180923.B6006@anxur.fi.muni.cz>; from thanh@informatics.muni.cz on Mon, May 14, 2001 at 06:09:23PM +0200 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 10:20:38 -0800 Thanh, > > Any thoughts? What does it mean when pdftex says "Font xxx at YYY > > not found", and what does one need to do to make them available? > > the pk version of the above fonts are not available. You can create them by > adding > > MKTEXPK = 1 > > into your texmf.cnf and rerun pdftex. Thank you very much. This worked. I notice that the newly built fonts do not display particularly well on the screen in Acrobat Reader, and the printed output doesn't look as crisp as it does when printing the PostScript file generated via dvips. Is there a setting somewhere that will cause pdftex (or whatever it's calling to generate the fonts) to produce higher resolution fonts for the file? Thanks again, Chris -- Christopher S. Swingley 930 Koyukuk Drive System / Network Manager University of Alaska Fairbanks IARC -- Frontier Program Fairbanks, AK 99775 phone: 907-474-2689 fax: 907-474-2643 email: cswingle@iarc.uaf.edu GNUPG and PGP2 keys at my web site web: http://www.frontier.iarc.uaf.edu/~cswingle _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 15-May-2001 6:15:15-GMT,2847;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA00164 for ; Tue, 15 May 2001 00:15:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 078022AE8F; Tue, 15 May 2001 08:16:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from tardis.ee.ethz.ch (tardis-delek-fast.ee.ethz.ch [129.132.2.199]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4F6FLm00357 for ; Tue, 15 May 2001 08:15:21 +0200 Received: from engelberg.ee.ethz.ch (engelberg.ee.ethz.ch [129.132.7.69]) by tardis.ee.ethz.ch (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDAD33C381 for ; Tue, 15 May 2001 08:14:28 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from localhost (oetiker@localhost) by engelberg.ee.ethz.ch (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA20891 for ; Tue, 15 May 2001 08:14:28 +0200 (MET DST) X-Authentication-Warning: engelberg.ee.ethz.ch: oetiker owned process doing -bs From: Tobias Oetiker To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [pdftex] filedescriptor leak in pdftex 14h Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 08:14:26 +0200 (MET DST) Folks, I am using pdflatex (14h) to produce a catalog with many images. After a few hundred images pdftex dies with the message pdflatex: img_serialexperimentslainreset1113b00002e257.jpg: Too many open files if I use limit descriptors unlimited (which effectively sets the limit to 1024) I can go a bit further, but pdftex still dies ... Is it realy necessary to keep descriptors to all included images open, or is it a filedescriptor leak ? I am not familiar with the pdftex code, so I have not started to look for the bug in the code. If someone can tell me where abouts to look I will be glad to ... cheers tobi -- ______ __ _ /_ __/_ / / (_) Oetiker, ETZ J97, ETH, 8092 Zurich, Switzerland / // _ \/ _ \/ / phoneto:+41(0)1-632-5286 faxto:+41(0)1-632-1517 /_/ \.__/_.__/_/ mailto:oetiker@ee.ethz.ch http://people.ee.ethz.ch/~oetiker _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 15-May-2001 8:39:13-GMT,2286;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA01072 for ; Tue, 15 May 2001 02:39:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 6AD4F2AE82; Tue, 15 May 2001 10:40:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.cs.uu.nl (sunset.cs.uu.nl [131.211.80.32]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4F8d4m00970 for ; Tue, 15 May 2001 10:39:04 +0200 Received: from mihoen.cs.uu.nl (mihoen.cs.uu.nl [131.211.80.223]) by mail.cs.uu.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46830451A; Tue, 15 May 2001 10:38:11 +0200 (MET DST) From: Otfried Cheong To: Tobias Oetiker , pdftex@tug.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: GNU Emacs 20.7.1 Message-Id: <20010515083811.46830451A@mail.cs.uu.nl> Subject: [pdftex] Re: filedescriptor leak in pdftex 14h Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 10:38:11 +0200 (MET DST) > Is it realy necessary to keep descriptors to all included images > open, or is it a filedescriptor leak ? What kind of images are these, and how are you including them? Note that \pdfximage opens the image file and indeed leaves a file descriptor open. Once you call \pdfrefximage for the first time, the image is actually embedded, and then the image file is closed. File descriptors for embedded PDF files with more than one page are never closed. So if \pdfximage is called more than once on the same image, you have a filedescriptor leak. Otfried _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 15-May-2001 8:55:14-GMT,3034;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA01164 for ; Tue, 15 May 2001 02:55:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 6DBAD2BA75; Tue, 15 May 2001 10:56:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from tardis.ee.ethz.ch (tardis-delek-fast.ee.ethz.ch [129.132.2.199]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4F8tDm01121 for ; Tue, 15 May 2001 10:55:13 +0200 Received: from engelberg.ee.ethz.ch (engelberg.ee.ethz.ch [129.132.7.69]) by tardis.ee.ethz.ch (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93D773C319; Tue, 15 May 2001 10:54:20 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from localhost (oetiker@localhost) by engelberg.ee.ethz.ch (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA17748; Tue, 15 May 2001 10:54:19 +0200 (MET DST) X-Authentication-Warning: engelberg.ee.ethz.ch: oetiker owned process doing -bs From: Tobias Oetiker To: Otfried Cheong Cc: In-Reply-To: <20010515083811.46830451A@mail.cs.uu.nl> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [pdftex] Re: filedescriptor leak in pdftex 14h Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 10:54:17 +0200 (MET DST) Today Otfried Cheong wrote: | | > Is it realy necessary to keep descriptors to all included images | > open, or is it a filedescriptor leak ? | | What kind of images are these, and how are you including them? | | Note that \pdfximage opens the image file and indeed leaves a file | descriptor open. Once you call \pdfrefximage for the first time, the | image is actually embedded, and then the image file is closed. | | File descriptors for embedded PDF files with more than one page are | never closed. | | So if \pdfximage is called more than once on the same image, you have | a filedescriptor leak. I use the graphicx package to include image jpeg images with \includegraphics ... I do actually use every image twice in the document ... cheers tobi | Otfried | | | -- ______ __ _ /_ __/_ / / (_) Oetiker, ETZ J97, ETH, 8092 Zurich, Switzerland / // _ \/ _ \/ / phoneto:+41(0)1-632-5286 faxto:+41(0)1-632-1517 /_/ \.__/_.__/_/ mailto:oetiker@ee.ethz.ch http://people.ee.ethz.ch/~oetiker _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 15-May-2001 9:09:13-GMT,2467;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA01287 for ; Tue, 15 May 2001 03:09:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id A84EF2AE8C; Tue, 15 May 2001 11:10:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.cs.uu.nl (sunset.cs.uu.nl [131.211.80.32]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4F99rm01278 for ; Tue, 15 May 2001 11:09:53 +0200 Received: from mihoen.cs.uu.nl (mihoen.cs.uu.nl [131.211.80.223]) by mail.cs.uu.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F901453C; Tue, 15 May 2001 11:09:00 +0200 (MET DST) From: Otfried Cheong To: oetiker@ee.ethz.ch Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-reply-to: (message from Tobias Oetiker on Tue, 15 May 2001 10:54:17 +0200 (MET DST)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: GNU Emacs 20.7.1 References: Message-Id: <20010515090900.6F901453C@mail.cs.uu.nl> Subject: [pdftex] Re: filedescriptor leak in pdftex 14h Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 11:09:00 +0200 (MET DST) > I use the graphicx package to include image jpeg images with > \includegraphics ... I do actually use every image twice in the > document ... \includegraphics should do it properly. Are you using the most recent "pdftex.def"? I've looked at jpeg inclusion in the pdftex code and cannot see a reason for the leak, assuming the TeX code calls \pdfrefximage on each image opened using \pdfximage. If you want to debug further, you'll need to look at "writeimg.c" and "writejpg.c" in "src/texk/web2c/pdftexdir". Otfried _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 15-May-2001 9:31:13-GMT,2657;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA01436 for ; Tue, 15 May 2001 03:31:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 6575B2BA7F; Tue, 15 May 2001 11:32:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from isy.liu.se (isy.liu.se [130.236.48.10]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4F9VKm01401 for ; Tue, 15 May 2001 11:31:20 +0200 Received: from isy.liu.se (IDENT:svan@silmaril.isy.liu.se [130.236.51.81]) by isy.liu.se (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f4F9US912262; Tue, 15 May 2001 11:30:28 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <3B00F734.9306A626@isy.liu.se> From: Jonas Svanberg Organization: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Link=F6ping?= University X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12-20 i686) X-Accept-Language: sv,zh MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by isy.liu.se id f4F9US912262 Subject: [pdftex] eepic vs. metapost Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 11:30:28 +0200 Hello all, What ways are there to define graphics for inclusion in such a way that some parts don't scale when changing the picture width parameter in the document? I'm mostly thinking of font sizes and line styles. Are there some macro-packages supporting this for the metapost case? If I draw my pictures using eepic I can indeed easily scale my picture without affecting line widths etc. If I change the default font of my document the default font of all my eepic labels also change. This is nice. I haven't yet tried Hans Hagen's tpic macros that was mentioned in a previous thread: http://tug.org/pipermail/pdftex/2000-October/007331.html eepic was also recently discussed in: http://tug.org/pipermail/pdftex/2001-May/008313.html Regards, Jonas Svanberg Linköping University, SWEDEN _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 15-May-2001 10:31:14-GMT,3014;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA01739 for ; Tue, 15 May 2001 04:31:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id D73BB2BA85; Tue, 15 May 2001 12:32:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (ns.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4FAVbm01750 for ; Tue, 15 May 2001 12:31:37 +0200 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA22976; Tue, 15 May 2001 12:30:44 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA07920; Tue, 15 May 2001 12:30:44 +0200 (MET DST) From: Han The Thanh To: Tobias Oetiker Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] filedescriptor leak in pdftex 14h Message-ID: <20010515123044.C6160@anxur.fi.muni.cz> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from oetiker@ee.ethz.ch on Tue, May 15, 2001 at 08:14:26AM +0200 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 12:30:44 +0200 > I am using pdflatex (14h) to produce a catalog with many images. > After a few hundred images pdftex dies with the message > > pdflatex: > img_serialexperimentslainreset1113b00002e257.jpg: Too many open files > > if I use limit descriptors unlimited (which effectively sets the > limit to 1024) I can go a bit further, but pdftex still dies ... > > Is it realy necessary to keep descriptors to all included images > open, or is it a filedescriptor leak ? > > I am not familiar with the pdftex code, so I have not started to > look for the bug in the code. If someone can tell me where abouts > to look I will be glad to ... I would try to ship each page explicitly (using \newpage or the likes at desired places). The images used in a page are freed after a page is shipped out. So if you have many pages and each has many images, all the images are kept in memory until shipout is called. Thanh _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 15-May-2001 13:16:13-GMT,2799;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA02855 for ; Tue, 15 May 2001 07:16:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id A25202BA73; Tue, 15 May 2001 15:17:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ams.org (sun06.ams.org [130.44.1.6]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4FDGpm02643 for ; Tue, 15 May 2001 15:16:51 +0200 Received: from sun06.ams.org (sun06.ams.org [130.44.1.6]) by ams.org (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f4FDFe525715; Tue, 15 May 2001 09:15:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Tom Kacvinsky To: Otfried Cheong Cc: , Subject: Re: [pdftex] Re: filedescriptor leak in pdftex 14h In-Reply-To: <20010515090900.6F901453C@mail.cs.uu.nl> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 1.0 (http://www.roaringpenguin.com/mimedefang/) Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 09:15:40 -0400 (EDT) Also, if you can get hold of purify and link pdftex with purify, you can catch where the fd leaks are happening. purify is *great* tool, but it costs a bit... One can get a free 15 day demo, though, so that should be sufficient for tracking the bug down. Tom On Tue, 15 May 2001, Otfried Cheong wrote: > > > I use the graphicx package to include image jpeg images with > > \includegraphics ... I do actually use every image twice in the > > document ... > > \includegraphics should do it properly. Are you using the most recent > "pdftex.def"? > > I've looked at jpeg inclusion in the pdftex code and cannot see a > reason for the leak, assuming the TeX code calls \pdfrefximage on each > image opened using \pdfximage. If you want to debug further, you'll > need to look at "writeimg.c" and "writejpg.c" in > "src/texk/web2c/pdftexdir". > > Otfried > > > _______________________________________________ > pdftex mailing list > pdftex@tug.org > http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex > _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 15-May-2001 13:29:15-GMT,3954;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA02986 for ; Tue, 15 May 2001 07:29:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 119012BA7F; Tue, 15 May 2001 15:30:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from tardis.ee.ethz.ch (tardis-delek-fast.ee.ethz.ch [129.132.2.199]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4FDTgm02853 for ; Tue, 15 May 2001 15:29:42 +0200 Received: from engelberg.ee.ethz.ch (engelberg.ee.ethz.ch [129.132.7.69]) by tardis.ee.ethz.ch (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F67A3C33A; Tue, 15 May 2001 15:27:35 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from localhost (oetiker@localhost) by engelberg.ee.ethz.ch (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA05119; Tue, 15 May 2001 15:27:34 +0200 (MET DST) X-Authentication-Warning: engelberg.ee.ethz.ch: oetiker owned process doing -bs From: Tobias Oetiker To: Tom Kacvinsky Cc: Subject: Re: [pdftex] Re: filedescriptor leak in pdftex 14h In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 15:27:31 +0200 (MET DST) Today Tom Kacvinsky wrote: | Also, if you can get hold of purify and link pdftex with purify, you can catch | where the fd leaks are happening. purify is *great* tool, but it costs a bit... | One can get a free 15 day demo, though, so that should be sufficient for | tracking the bug down. I found the problem ... I have a set of index pages with 36 images per page ... I left the page breaking to pdftex. Pdftex keeps all the filedescriptors for included images open until the page gets shipped. All images of the whole index (240) were entered as one paragraph. Thus the pages could only be shipped after all the data was read. I now added a \pagebreak after every 36 images, which makes pdftex ship the page immediately. So the only thing that remains is, that pdftex might want to die in a more gracefull manner than just emitting 'too many open files' cheers tobi | | Tom | | On Tue, 15 May 2001, Otfried Cheong wrote: | | > | > > I use the graphicx package to include image jpeg images with | > > \includegraphics ... I do actually use every image twice in the | > > document ... | > | > \includegraphics should do it properly. Are you using the most recent | > "pdftex.def"? | > | > I've looked at jpeg inclusion in the pdftex code and cannot see a | > reason for the leak, assuming the TeX code calls \pdfrefximage on each | > image opened using \pdfximage. If you want to debug further, you'll | > need to look at "writeimg.c" and "writejpg.c" in | > "src/texk/web2c/pdftexdir". | > | > Otfried | > | > | > _______________________________________________ | > pdftex mailing list | > pdftex@tug.org | > http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex | > | | -- ______ __ _ /_ __/_ / / (_) Oetiker, ETZ J97, ETH, 8092 Zurich, Switzerland / // _ \/ _ \/ / phoneto:+41(0)1-632-5286 faxto:+41(0)1-632-1517 /_/ \.__/_.__/_/ mailto:oetiker@ee.ethz.ch http://people.ee.ethz.ch/~oetiker _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 15-May-2001 14:04:13-GMT,2595;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA03368 for ; Tue, 15 May 2001 08:04:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 790F82AE8F; Tue, 15 May 2001 16:05:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.cs.uu.nl (sunset.cs.uu.nl [131.211.80.32]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4FE48m03083 for ; Tue, 15 May 2001 16:04:08 +0200 Received: from mihoen.cs.uu.nl (mihoen.cs.uu.nl [131.211.80.223]) by mail.cs.uu.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1ABA4529; Tue, 15 May 2001 16:03:15 +0200 (MET DST) From: Otfried Cheong To: tjk@ams.org Cc: oetiker@ee.ethz.ch, pdftex@tug.org In-reply-to: (message from Tom Kacvinsky on Tue, 15 May 2001 09:15:40 -0400 (EDT)) Subject: Re: [pdftex] Re: filedescriptor leak in pdftex 14h MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: GNU Emacs 20.7.1 References: Message-Id: <20010515140315.D1ABA4529@mail.cs.uu.nl> Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 16:03:15 +0200 (MET DST) > Also, if you can get hold of purify and link pdftex with purify, > you can catch where the fd leaks are happening. purify is *great* > tool, but it costs a bit... One can get a free 15 day demo, > though, so that should be sufficient for tracking the bug down. I don't think there is a bug. I've run pdftex under strace to verify that all jpeg files were closed. Perhaps it's as Thanh says and there are simply too many whatsit nodes kept in memory. Of course one could change the code so that it wouldn't keep the image file open between \pdfximage and \pdfrefximage (or rather, shipping out the whatsit node created by \pdfrefximage). Otfried _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 15-May-2001 21:51:14-GMT,4840;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA11396 for ; Tue, 15 May 2001 15:51:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 0C3332AE82; Tue, 15 May 2001 23:52:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from raven.ecs.soton.ac.uk (raven.ecs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.70.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4FLpAm05225 for ; Tue, 15 May 2001 23:51:11 +0200 Received: from hawk.ecs.soton.ac.uk (hawk.ecs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.68.142]) by raven.ecs.soton.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA13441 for ; Tue, 15 May 2001 22:50:17 +0100 (BST) Received: from ecs.soton.ac.uk (IDENT:bjc97r@warp.ecs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.66.74]) by hawk.ecs.soton.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA25344 for ; Tue, 15 May 2001 22:50:17 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <3B01A4BE.7CD46BE9@ecs.soton.ac.uk> From: Byoungjo CHOI X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [ko] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14-12kr i586) X-Accept-Language: ko MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=EUC-KR Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [pdftex] Problems with "index" + "hyperref" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 22:50:55 +0100 I need "index" package to define an author index. When I run "pdflatex" or "latex" on a latex file using "index" package together with "hyperref" package, I always get this error message. Are sombody using "index" and "hyperref" packages together successfully? -- error message begin -- ! Undefined control sequence. \@indexfile l.35 \index{an item on slide 3} ? -- error message end -- I tried with "testslide.tex" which comes with "hyperref" package in "test" directory. I just added "\usepackage{index}" and commented out "\usepackage{makeidx}", since these two conflict with each other. Then I have the above mentioned error. I am using the latest "index" and "hyperref" packages. The following is the part of log message. -- Log message begin -- This is pdfTeX, Version 3.14159-13d (Web2C 7.3.1) (testslide.tex[/usr/share/texmf/pdftex/config/pdftex.cfg] LaTeX2e <1998/12/01> patch level 1 Babel and hyphenation patterns for american, french, german, ngerman, i talian, nohyphenation, loaded. LaTeX Warning: File `seminar.con' already exists on the system. Not generating it from this source. (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/seminar/seminar.cls Document Class: seminar 1997/10/13, 1.4 Document Style: `seminar' v1.4 <1997/10/13> (tvz) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/article.cls Document Class: article 1999/01/07 v1.4a Standard LaTeX document class (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/size10.clo)) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/seminar/sem-page.sty)) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/config/seminar.con) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/seminar/slidesec.sty File `slidesec.sty' v0.9 92/05/07 ) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/misc/lastpage.sty) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/tools/xspace.sty) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/misc/index.sty) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/hyperref/hyperref.sty (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/graphics/keyval.sty) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/hyperref/pd1enc.def) Implicit mode ON; LaTeX internals redefined (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/html/url.sty)) *hyperref using default driver hpdftex* (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/hyperref/hpdftex.def (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/psnfss/pifont.sty (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/psnfss/upzd.fd) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/psnfss/upsy.fd))) (testslide.aux) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/graphics/color.sty (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/config/color.cfg) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/graphics/pdftex.def (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/supp-pdf.tex (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/supp-mis.tex loading : Context Support Macros / Missing ) loading : Context Support Macros / PDF ))) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/hyperref/nameref.sty) (testslide.out) (testslide.out) [1 Non-PDF special ignored![/usr/share/texmf/dvips/config/pdftex.map]] (testslide.los) [2] [3] [4] ! Undefined control sequence. \@indexfile l.35 \index{an item on slide 3} ? -- Log message end -- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 16-May-2001 13:30:13-GMT,2766;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA19955 for ; Wed, 16 May 2001 07:30:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id D0D3B2AE82; Wed, 16 May 2001 15:31:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from idacrd.ccr-p.ida.org (idacrd.ccr-p.ida.org [206.181.22.66]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4GDUjm08739 for ; Wed, 16 May 2001 15:30:46 +0200 Received: from idacrd.ccr-p.ida.org (root@localhost) by idacrd.ccr-p.ida.org with ESMTP id f4GDTo202424 for ; Wed, 16 May 2001 09:29:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from idaccr.org (runner.princeton.idaccr.org [10.0.0.2]) by idacrd.ccr-p.ida.org with ESMTP id f4GDTo802419 for ; Wed, 16 May 2001 09:29:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from linus.princeton.idaccr.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by idaccr.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA05185; Wed, 16 May 2001 09:29:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from linus (IDENT:gold@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by linus.princeton.idaccr.org (8.9.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA31534; Wed, 16 May 2001 09:21:07 -0400 Message-Id: <200105161321.JAA31534@linus.princeton.idaccr.org> To: Byoungjo CHOI Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] Problems with "index" + "hyperref" In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 15 May 2001 22:50:55 BST." <3B01A4BE.7CD46BE9@ecs.soton.ac.uk> From: David Goldschmidt Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 09:21:07 -0400 >>>>> "Byoungjo" == Byoungjo CHOI writes: Byoungjo> I need "index" package to define an author index. When I run Byoungjo> "pdflatex" or "latex" on a latex file using "index" package Byoungjo> together with "hyperref" package, I always get this error Byoungjo> message. Are sombody using "index" and "hyperref" packages Byoungjo> together successfully? I use the makeidx package with hyperref with no problems. Is there some reason that you don't want to use makeidx? David Goldschmidt _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 16-May-2001 13:35:19-GMT,4295;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA20007 for ; Wed, 16 May 2001 07:35:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 353852AE98; Wed, 16 May 2001 15:36:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from gemma.TechFak.Uni-Bielefeld.DE (gemma.TechFak.Uni-Bielefeld.DE [129.70.136.103]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4GDZkm08830 for ; Wed, 16 May 2001 15:35:46 +0200 Received: from liszt.TechFak.Uni-Bielefeld.DE (liszt.TechFak.Uni-Bielefeld.DE [129.70.128.23]) by gemma.TechFak.Uni-Bielefeld.DE (8.9.1/8.9.1/TechFak/pk+ro20000427) with ESMTP id PAA03710 for ; Wed, 16 May 2001 15:34:52 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by liszt.TechFak.Uni-Bielefeld.DE (8.8.8/pk19971205+fulldom) id PAA16714; Wed, 16 May 2001 15:31:06 +0200 (MET DST) To: pdftex@tug.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Steffen Neumann Message-ID: Lines: 67 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.44/Emacs 19.34 Subject: [pdftex] pdfbookmark problems using foils.cls Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: 16 May 2001 15:31:05 +0200 Hi, I have a problem getting bookmarks work with foils.cls The following code won't work: \documentclass{foils} \usepackage[pdftex]{hyperref} \begin{document} \pdfbookmark[1]{0}{b0} bla \newpage \pdfbookmark[2]{1}{b1} blub \newpage \pdfbookmark[1]{2}{b2} fump \end{document} Replace \documentclass{foils} with \documentclass{article} and things work as expected. One difference I noticed is that under foils the file *.out is empty, whereas in article.cls it has the following: \BOOKMARK [1][-]{b0.1}{0}{} \BOOKMARK [2][-]{b1.2}{1}{b0.1} \BOOKMARK [1][-]{b2.1}{2}{} System is current teTeX-beta, with pdflatex 0.14h-released-20010417 and foils 1998/08/15 v2.1.3 FoilTeX Class File () => Is this problem known, or do I still make a mistake somewhere ? => Did I miss some fixes to foils ? Any help appreciated. Yours, Steffen ---------------------------------------------------------------- This is pdfTeX, Version 3.14159-14h-released-20010417 (Web2C 7.3.3.1) (./t.tex{/coda/vol/tex/share/texmf/pdftex/config/pdftex.cfg} LaTeX2e <1999/12/01> patch level 1 Babel and hyphenation patterns for american, french, german, ngerman, n ohyphenation, loaded. (/coda/vol/tex/share/texmf.local/tex/generic/foils.cls Document Class: foils 1998/08/15 v2.1.3 FoilTeX Class File, Copyright IBM 1995, 1997,1998 (/coda/vol/tex/share/texmf.local/tex/generic/fltfonts.def) (/coda/vol/tex/share/texmf.local/tex/generic/foil20.clo)) (/coda/vol/tex/share/texmf/tex/latex/hyperref/hyperref.sty (/coda/vol/tex/share/texmf/tex/latex/graphics/keyval.sty) (/coda/vol/tex/share/texmf/tex/latex/hyperref/pd1enc.def) Implicit mode ON; LaTeX internals redefined (/coda/vol/tex/share/texmf/tex/latex/misc/url.sty)) *hyperref using driver hpdftex* (/coda/vol/tex/share/texmf/tex/latex/hyperref/hpdftex.def (/coda/vol/tex/share/texmf/tex/latex/psnfss/pifont.sty (/coda/vol/tex/share/texmf/tex/latex/psnfss/upzd.fd) (/coda/vol/tex/share/texmf/tex/latex/psnfss/upsy.fd))) (./t.aux) (/coda/vol/tex/share/texmf/tex/latex/hyperref/nameref.sty) (./t.out) (./t.out) [1{/coda/vol/tex/share/texmf/dvips/config/pdftex.map}] [2] [3] (./t.aux) ) Output written on t.pdf (3 pages, 10594 bytes). Transcript written on t.log. _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 16-May-2001 14:40:13-GMT,2456;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA20884 for ; Wed, 16 May 2001 08:40:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 1AF282AE8C; Wed, 16 May 2001 16:41:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from antholoma.wanadoo.fr (smtp-abo-4.wanadoo.fr [193.252.19.153]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4GEeOm09422; Wed, 16 May 2001 16:40:25 +0200 Received: from localhost.localdomain (193.249.246.123) by antholoma.wanadoo.fr; 16 May 2001 12:28:42 +0200 From: Michael Chapman X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Cc: Robert Howlett , pdfTeX mailing list To: pdfTeX mailing list References: <3.0.6.32.20010513135026.016cb460@server-1> <989834953.3affaec9f1bc8@www-mail.usyd.edu.au> In-Reply-To: <989834953.3affaec9f1bc8@www-mail.usyd.edu.au> Subject: Re: [pdftex] movies MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01051613231402.07384@localhost.localdomain> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 13:23:14 +0200 On Monday 14 May 2001 12:09, rhowlett@mail.usyd.edu.au wrote: > > I can imagine someone wanting to embed a very short movie > clip, though I don't envisage ever wanting to do so myself! > > Bob Apologies if I am missing something obvious in one of the books/manuals, but . . . I converted all our GIFs to PNGs to use with PDF --- work fine and all our animated GIFs to MNGs --- not recognised for "short movie" can I read "animated graphic" and if so am I naive, or just asking PDF to do something it doesn't want to ? Thanks, Michael Chapman. _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 16-May-2001 17:00:13-GMT,3513;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA23922 for ; Wed, 16 May 2001 11:00:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 8B3B62AE8B; Wed, 16 May 2001 19:01:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mailgate3.cinetic.de (mailgate3.cinetic.de [212.227.116.80]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4GH0km10191 for ; Wed, 16 May 2001 19:00:48 +0200 Received: from cinetic.de (popeye.cinetic.de [194.122.194.100]) by mailgate3.cinetic.de (8.11.2/8.11.2/SuSE Linux 8.11.0-0.4) with SMTP id f4GGxru04247 for ; Wed, 16 May 2001 18:59:53 +0200 Message-Id: <200105161659.f4GGxru04247@mailgate3.cinetic.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Organization: http://freemail.web.de/ From: "Christian Schlauer" To: pdftex@tug.org Precedence: fm-user Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [pdftex] Warning if manyfoot.sty+hyperref.sty+pdflatex Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 18:59:53 +0200 Hello pdftex-users, I have an example document that compiles under LaTeX and PDFLaTeX without errors/warnings, as long as I don't use hyperref. If hyperref is included, it compiles under LaTeX (without errors/warnings), but when using PDFLaTeX, I get ! pdfTeX warning (dest): name{Hfootnote.4} has been referenced but does not exist, replaced by a fixed one ! pdfTeX warning (dest): name{Hfootnote.2} has been referenced but does not exist, replaced by a fixed one This is the sample document. It uses manyfoot.sty which allows different levels of footnotes. It can be found on CTAN in ftp://ftp.dante.de/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/supported/ncctools/. The example document is a short version of the example in the documentation of manyfoot. --- 8< --- \documentclass{article} \usepackage{manyfoot} \newfootnote{C} \newcounter{footnoteC}% define a new counter \newcommand{\footnoteC}{% \stepcounter{footnoteC}% adds 1 to the counter \Footnotemark\thefootnoteC\FootnotetextC\thefootnoteC}% what's this? % use Roman numerals to print the counter \renewcommand{\thefootnoteC}{\roman{footnoteC}} \usepackage{hyperref} \begin{document} The quick\footnote{ordinary footnote 1} brown fox jumps \ldots The quick\footnoteC{manyfoot footnote 1} brown fox jumps \ldots The quick\footnote{ordinary footnote 2} brown fox jumps \ldots The quick\footnoteC{manyfoot footnote 2} brown fox jumps \ldots \end{document} --- 8< --- How can one get rid of the warnings, especially as the pdf file looks okay? -- Christian Schlauer ______________________________________________________________________________ Ferienklick.de - 225 Reisekataloge auf einen Blick! Direkt zu Ihrem Traumurlaub: http://ferienklick.de/?PP=2-0-100-105-0 _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 16-May-2001 19:27:13-GMT,2253;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA26695 for ; Wed, 16 May 2001 13:27:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 938AF2AE8C; Wed, 16 May 2001 21:28:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mailgateway2.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway2.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.212]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4GJRhm10787 for ; Wed, 16 May 2001 21:27:43 +0200 Received: from remote142-27.home.uni-freiburg.de ([132.230.142.27]) by mailgateway2.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 1506wZ-00086e-00; Wed, 16 May 2001 21:26:47 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.20010516211328.3de741d6@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) To: Steffen Neumann , pdftex@tug.org From: Heiko Oberdiek Subject: Re: [pdftex] pdfbookmark problems using foils.cls In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 21:13:28 +0200 At 15:31 16.05.2001 +0200, Steffen Neumann wrote: > > \documentclass{foils} > \usepackage[pdftex]{hyperref} > \begin{document} > \pdfbookmark[1]{0}{b0} The value of tocdepth (0) is too small, therefore the bookmarks with higher values (1 and 2 in your example) will be suppressed. \setcounter{tocdepth}{2}% or 3, 4, ... Yours sincerely Heiko _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 16-May-2001 19:27:52-GMT,2639;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA26710 for ; Wed, 16 May 2001 13:27:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id EAB052BA71; Wed, 16 May 2001 21:28:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mailgateway2.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway2.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.212]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4GJRqm10791 for ; Wed, 16 May 2001 21:27:52 +0200 Received: from remote142-27.home.uni-freiburg.de ([132.230.142.27]) by mailgateway2.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 1506wc-00086e-00; Wed, 16 May 2001 21:26:51 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.20010516212107.3de79928@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) To: "Christian Schlauer" , pdftex@tug.org From: Heiko Oberdiek Subject: Re: [pdftex] Warning if manyfoot.sty+hyperref.sty+pdflatex In-Reply-To: <200105161659.f4GGxru04247@mailgate3.cinetic.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 21:21:07 +0200 At 18:59 16.05.2001 +0200, Christian Schlauer wrote: > >! pdfTeX warning (dest): name{Hfootnote.4} has been referenced but >does not exist, replaced by a fixed one >\usepackage{manyfoot} >\newfootnote{C} >\newcounter{footnoteC}% define a new counter >\newcommand{\footnoteC}{% > \stepcounter{footnoteC}% adds 1 to the counter > \Footnotemark\thefootnoteC\FootnotetextC\thefootnoteC}% what's this? >% use Roman numerals to print the counter >\renewcommand{\thefootnoteC}{\roman{footnoteC}} >\usepackage{hyperref} I do not know the package manyfoot. Perhaps it helps, if you disable the support of footnotes in hyperref with option "hyperfootnotes=false". Yours sincerely Heiko PS: >[... advertisement ...] Not a good idea. _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 16-May-2001 19:29:30-GMT,2689;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA26763 for ; Wed, 16 May 2001 13:29:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 992D92BA79; Wed, 16 May 2001 21:28:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mailgateway2.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway2.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.212]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4GJRum10799 for ; Wed, 16 May 2001 21:27:56 +0200 Received: from remote142-27.home.uni-freiburg.de ([132.230.142.27]) by mailgateway2.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 1506wb-00086e-00; Wed, 16 May 2001 21:26:49 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.20010516211623.3de7e26a@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) To: Byoungjo CHOI , pdftex@tug.org From: Heiko Oberdiek Subject: Re: [pdftex] Problems with "index" + "hyperref" In-Reply-To: <3B01A4BE.7CD46BE9@ecs.soton.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 21:16:23 +0200 At 22:50 15.05.2001 +0100, Byoungjo CHOI wrote: >When I run "pdflatex" or "latex" on a latex file using "index" package together with "hyperref" package, >I always get this error message. Are sombody using "index" and "hyperref" packages together successfully? > >-- error message begin -- >! Undefined control sequence. > \@indexfile >This is pdfTeX, Version 3.14159-13d (Web2C 7.3.1) >LaTeX2e <1998/12/01> patch level 1 >Babel and hyphenation patterns for american, french, german, ngerman, i You are using old versions, so I assume that hyperref is also old. Therefore try an uptodate hyperref first: http://www.tug.org/applications/hyperref/hyperref.zip If this also fails, then your chance getting an answer that will help increases with a minimal (!) TeX file. Yours sincerely Heiko _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 16-May-2001 20:05:13-GMT,3134;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA27339 for ; Wed, 16 May 2001 14:05:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 0CF942AE98; Wed, 16 May 2001 22:06:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from raven.ecs.soton.ac.uk (raven.ecs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.70.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4GK5lm11007 for ; Wed, 16 May 2001 22:05:47 +0200 Received: from hawk.ecs.soton.ac.uk (hawk.ecs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.68.142]) by raven.ecs.soton.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA23489; Wed, 16 May 2001 21:04:46 +0100 (BST) Received: from ecs.soton.ac.uk (IDENT:bjc97r@warp.ecs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.66.74]) by hawk.ecs.soton.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA01468; Wed, 16 May 2001 21:04:46 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <3B02DD87.AB3A6736@ecs.soton.ac.uk> From: Byoungjo CHOI X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [ko] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14-12kr i586) X-Accept-Language: ko MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Goldschmidt Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] Problems with "index" + "hyperref" References: <200105161321.JAA31534@linus.princeton.idaccr.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=EUC-KR Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 21:05:27 +0100 That's because I am using the following two new indices, \newindex{aut}{adx}{and}{Author Index} \newindex{cite}{cdx}{cnd}{Citation Index} in order to generate an author index per paper basis and "makeidx" doesn't provide "\newindex" command. BTW, looking at "hyperref.sty", I found "hyperref" support "multind" package. I managed to what I wanted using "multind" package, but I had to change all the index commands in my LaTeX files. I wish there was a better solution to this problem. Byoungjo CHOI David Goldschmidt wrote: > >>>>> "Byoungjo" == Byoungjo CHOI writes: > > Byoungjo> I need "index" package to define an author index. When I run > Byoungjo> "pdflatex" or "latex" on a latex file using "index" package > Byoungjo> together with "hyperref" package, I always get this error > Byoungjo> message. Are sombody using "index" and "hyperref" packages > Byoungjo> together successfully? > > I use the makeidx package with hyperref with no problems. Is there some > reason that you don't want to use makeidx? > > David Goldschmidt _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 16-May-2001 20:15:22-GMT,3418;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA27481 for ; Wed, 16 May 2001 14:15:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 7E8612AE82; Wed, 16 May 2001 22:16:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from raven.ecs.soton.ac.uk (raven.ecs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.70.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4GKFVm11099 for ; Wed, 16 May 2001 22:15:31 +0200 Received: from hawk.ecs.soton.ac.uk (hawk.ecs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.68.142]) by raven.ecs.soton.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA23552; Wed, 16 May 2001 21:14:37 +0100 (BST) Received: from ecs.soton.ac.uk (IDENT:bjc97r@warp.ecs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.66.74]) by hawk.ecs.soton.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA02218; Wed, 16 May 2001 21:14:37 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <3B02DFD6.DF2C8CA5@ecs.soton.ac.uk> From: Byoungjo CHOI X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [ko] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14-12kr i586) X-Accept-Language: ko MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Heiko Oberdiek Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] Problems with "index" + "hyperref" References: <3.0.1.16.20010516211623.3de7e26a@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=EUC-KR Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 21:15:18 +0100 Despite somewhat out-of-date teTeX package which came with RedHat 6.2, I am using the latest "pdfTeX", "hyperref" and "index", at least I think so, since I updated these packages within a month time. Comparing "index.sty" and "hyperref.sty", it seems to me that "hyperref" may not yet work with "\index" command defined within "index.sty". However, as I am a novice in LaTeX and pdfTeX, this may not be true. Thanks for your suggestion any way. Byoungjo CHOI Heiko Oberdiek wrote: > At 22:50 15.05.2001 +0100, Byoungjo CHOI wrote: > > >When I run "pdflatex" or "latex" on a latex file using "index" package > together with "hyperref" package, > >I always get this error message. Are sombody using "index" and "hyperref" > packages together successfully? > > > >-- error message begin -- > >! Undefined control sequence. > > \@indexfile > > >This is pdfTeX, Version 3.14159-13d (Web2C 7.3.1) > >LaTeX2e <1998/12/01> patch level 1 > >Babel and hyphenation patterns for american, french, german, > ngerman, i > > You are using old versions, so I assume that hyperref > is also old. Therefore try an uptodate hyperref first: > http://www.tug.org/applications/hyperref/hyperref.zip > If this also fails, then your chance getting an answer that > will help increases with a minimal (!) TeX file. > > Yours sincerely > Heiko _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 17-May-2001 8:59:13-GMT,2417;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA05075 for ; Thu, 17 May 2001 02:59:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 136422AE82; Thu, 17 May 2001 11:00:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from wisbech.cl.cam.ac.uk (mta1.cl.cam.ac.uk [128.232.0.15]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4H8x9m13671 for ; Thu, 17 May 2001 10:59:09 +0200 Received: from pallas.cl.cam.ac.uk ([128.232.8.88] helo=cl.cam.ac.uk ident=rf) by wisbech.cl.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.092 #1) id 150Jbo-0007Fs-00; Thu, 17 May 2001 09:58:12 +0100 To: Byoungjo CHOI Cc: Heiko Oberdiek , pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] Problems with "index" + "hyperref" In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 16 May 2001 21:15:18 BST." <3B02DFD6.DF2C8CA5@ecs.soton.ac.uk> From: Robin Fairbairns Message-Id: Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 09:58:11 +0100 > Despite somewhat out-of-date teTeX package which came with > RedHat 6.2, I am using the latest "pdfTeX", "hyperref" and "index", > at least I think so, since I updated these packages within a month time. when, exactly? index hasn't changed in ages, but hyperref was last updated on the _archive_ on 10 april. the latest snapshot of pdftex was 17 april, which is exactly a month ago (though i doubt that is your problem). of course, if you update your stuff from places other than ctan you would no doubt get more recent versions, but since you updated index you've visited ctan for at least one thing... r _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 17-May-2001 11:11:13-GMT,2879;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA05930 for ; Thu, 17 May 2001 05:11:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 4A0A12AE93; Thu, 17 May 2001 13:12:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mailgate3.cinetic.de (mailgate3.cinetic.de [212.227.116.80]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4HBBom14373 for ; Thu, 17 May 2001 13:11:50 +0200 Received: from smtp.web.de (smtp01.web.de [194.45.170.210]) by mailgate3.cinetic.de (8.11.2/8.11.2/SuSE Linux 8.11.0-0.4) with SMTP id f4HBAuu27470; Thu, 17 May 2001 13:10:56 +0200 Received: from CHRSC by smtp.web.de with smtp (freemail 4.2.1.8 #22) id m150LgG-007LtWC; Thu, 17 May 2001 13:10 +0200 Message-Id: To: Heiko Oberdiek Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] Warning if manyfoot.sty+hyperref.sty+pdflatex References: <3.0.1.16.20010516212107.3de79928@localhost> From: Christian Schlauer In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.16.20010516212107.3de79928@localhost> Lines: 28 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: 17 May 2001 13:11:35 +0200 Heiko Oberdiek writes: > I do not know the package manyfoot. Perhaps it helps, > if you disable the support of footnotes in hyperref with > option "hyperfootnotes=false". Thanks a lot, loading hyperref with that option as the last package before \begin{document} does the trick, and I don't really need hyperfootnotes. But isn't it inconsistent[1] that a warning message is generated in pdfLaTeX, but not in LaTeX? I get functioning hyperfootnotes in both DVI (I use YAP as a previewer) and PDF, and only pdfLaTeX complains. [1] Please don't feel offended by that---I know nothing about the internals of hyperref/LaTeX/pdfLaTeX ... > PS: > >[... advertisement ...] > > Not a good idea. I couldn't use my POP3 account yesterday and had to use a web interface (where they add some lines, I knew that), sorry. Regards, -- Christian Schlauer _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 17-May-2001 11:21:25-GMT,3100;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA05981 for ; Thu, 17 May 2001 05:21:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 5DFCB2BA77; Thu, 17 May 2001 13:22:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from uakron.edu ([130.101.5.4]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4HBL4m14472 for ; Thu, 17 May 2001 13:21:10 +0200 Received: from default (superior26-30.infoserv.uakron.edu [130.101.2.30]) by uakron.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f4HBItj23948 for ; Thu, 17 May 2001 07:18:55 -0400 (EDT) From: "Donald Story" Organization: The University of Akron To: pdftex MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Reply-To: dpstory@uakron.edu Message-ID: <3B037A8E.2352.682684@localhost> Priority: normal References: <39F2EAD6.6E2F6C08@daltons.net> (Barney Dalton's message of "Sun, 22 Oct 2000 14:25:42 +0100") In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Subject: [pdftex] Exerquiz and pdfscreen Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 07:15:26 -0400 Hi all; Just got around to checking on the state of affairs with pdfscreen and exerquiz. The demo file, eq_pdfs.pdf (and source file, eq_pdfs.tex) had some problems that are now fixed. pdfscreen should compile with exerquiz and function correctly in Reader 4-5. PS: If you have used exerquiz on occasion, I encourage you to update to version 2. Acrobat (forms plug-in) changed some things that caused some problems in exerquiz. Version 2 fixes the problems. The latest version of exerquiz defines an objective-style question, so you can now pose question other than multiple choice. See: http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/webeq.html Now, I must get back to work. Regards, dps Dr. D. P. Story / dpstory@uakron.edu / (330) 972-7514 http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/ Dept of Mathematics and Computer Science / University of Akron / Akron, Ohio 44325 AcroTeX Web Site: http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/acrotex.html Site Includes: e-Calculus, Algebra Review in Ten Lessons, Mathematics Games, Pdfmarks:Links & Forms, Using LaTeX to Create Quality PDF Documents for the WWW, Web.sty and Exerquiz.sty Packages for LaTeX, and much, much more. _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 17-May-2001 14:14:13-GMT,2239;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA07564 for ; Thu, 17 May 2001 08:14:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 1F9062BA6F; Thu, 17 May 2001 16:15:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mailgateway2.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway2.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.212]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4HEE9m15520 for ; Thu, 17 May 2001 16:14:10 +0200 Received: from sun2.ruf.uni-freiburg.de ([132.230.1.2]) by mailgateway2.uni-freiburg.de with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 150OWd-0001Rp-00; Thu, 17 May 2001 16:13:11 +0200 From: Heiko Oberdiek To: Christian Schlauer Cc: Subject: Re: [pdftex] Warning if manyfoot.sty+hyperref.sty+pdflatex In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 16:13:11 +0200 (MET DST) On 17 May 2001, Christian Schlauer wrote: > Heiko Oberdiek writes: > > But isn't it inconsistent[1] that a warning message is generated in > pdfLaTeX, but not in LaTeX? I get functioning hyperfootnotes in both > DVI (I use YAP as a previewer) and PDF, and only pdfLaTeX complains. No, pdfTeX does make a better job in recognizing wrong links. Yours sincerely Heiko _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 17-May-2001 21:31:13-GMT,3100;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA15216 for ; Thu, 17 May 2001 15:31:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 093FF2AE82; Thu, 17 May 2001 23:32:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mailgateway2.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway2.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.212]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4HLVpm17461 for ; Thu, 17 May 2001 23:31:51 +0200 Received: from remote142-164.home.uni-freiburg.de ([132.230.142.164]) by mailgateway2.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 150VMF-0008OA-00; Thu, 17 May 2001 23:30:56 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.20010517072437.0a475248@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) To: Byoungjo CHOI From: Heiko Oberdiek Subject: Re: [pdftex] Problems with "index" + "hyperref" Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: <3B02DFD6.DF2C8CA5@ecs.soton.ac.uk> References: <3.0.1.16.20010516211623.3de7e26a@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 07:24:37 +0200 At 21:15 16.05.2001 +0100, Byoungjo CHOI wrote: >Despite somewhat out-of-date teTeX package which came with >RedHat 6.2, I am using the latest "pdfTeX", "hyperref" and "index", >at least I think so, since I updated these packages within a month time. No, this is wrong: >> >This is pdfTeX, Version 3.14159-13d (Web2C 7.3.1) This is a version from the last century. >Comparing "index.sty" and "hyperref.sty", it seems to me that >"hyperref" may not yet work with "\index" command defined within "index.sty". It is possible that there are bugs, but I am not willing to spend my time for debugging and analyzing bugs that are already solved. >> You are using old versions, so I assume that hyperref >> is also old. Therefore try an uptodate hyperref first: >> http://www.tug.org/applications/hyperref/hyperref.zip >> If this also fails, then your chance getting an answer that >> will help increases with a minimal (!) TeX file. A bug report includes a minimal test file to show the relevant part of the problem, stripped by any other unnecessary things and includes the information about the used versions (hyperref, index, ...). Yours sincerely Heiko _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 18-May-2001 8:44:06-GMT,9354;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA21904 for ; Fri, 18 May 2001 01:45:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 6E58F2AE82; Fri, 18 May 2001 09:46:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ike-ext.ab.videon.ca (ike-ext.ab.videon.ca [206.75.216.35]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f4I7jsm19589 for ; Fri, 18 May 2001 09:45:58 +0200 Received: (qmail 29163 invoked from network); 18 May 2001 07:44:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lovelife.olvc.ab.ca) ([24.108.27.145]) (envelope-sender ) by ike-ext.ab.videon.ca (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 18 May 2001 07:44:57 -0000 Received: from foka by lovelife.olvc.ab.ca with local (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian)) id 150f2m-00029x-00; Fri, 18 May 2001 01:51:28 -0600 To: Werner LEMBERG Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] Generating CJK in PDF Message-ID: <20010518015126.A8130@lovelife.olvc.ab.ca> References: <20010507.231607.124440485.wl@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="17pEHd4RhPHOinZp" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.17i In-Reply-To: <20010507.231607.124440485.wl@gnu.org>; from wl@gnu.org on Mon, May 07, 2001 at 11:16:07PM +0200 From: Anthony Fok Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 01:51:27 -0600 --17pEHd4RhPHOinZp Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Hello Werner, (Thanks for introducing me to the list! :-) On Mon, May 07, 2001 at 11:16:07PM +0200, Werner LEMBERG wrote: > > The .enc files contain the same information as the .sfd file, but > > using glyph indices instead of char codes. I've just extended > > ttf2tfm so that together with the .tfm files it writes the .enc > > files. I guess one could make it create the /ToUnicode cmap files > > and the .map file for pdftex as well. > > Please send me the patch. BTW, Yong Li (Rigel) sent me some patches to ttf2pt1-3.3.3 that does just that: generates the *.enc files. He also provided patches to cugb.map, cugbk.map, cubig5.map etc. in ttf2pt1-chinese-3.3.2 to support the glyphs in most Chinese TrueType fonts but not listed in (perhaps outdated) conversion tables on Unicode.org. (???) (Hint hint, it would be great if you could adapt these revisions to *.map to your *.sfd files too. Afterall, AFAIK, Rigel and Tung-Han Hsieh included these revisions to the charset maps in the official glibc-2.2.x. ;-) If anyone is on the ttf2pt1 mailing lists, please feel free to forward these patches upstream. 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Sun, 20 May 2001 06:01:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id A25ED2AE8F; Sun, 20 May 2001 14:02:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from blaubaer.kn-bremen.de (blaubaer.kn-bremen.de [195.37.179.254]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4KC0wm03021 for ; Sun, 20 May 2001 14:00:59 +0200 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by blaubaer.kn-bremen.de (8.9.1/8.9.1) with UUCP id NAA27803 for pdftex@tug.org; Sun, 20 May 2001 13:59:51 +0200 Received: (from ms@localhost) by lucien.kn-bremen.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA28134 for pdftex@tug.org; Sun, 20 May 2001 13:08:57 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] filedescriptor leak in pdftex 14h Message-ID: <20010520130856.F27162@lucien.kn-bremen.de> Mail-Followup-To: pdftex@tug.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from oetiker@ee.ethz.ch on Tue, May 15, 2001 at 08:14:26AM +0200 Organization: ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Strasse 8, D-28359 Bremen X-Disclaimer: The views expressed are my own and not necessarily that of my employers. Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 13:08:56 +0200 On 2001-05-15 08:14:26 +0200, Tobias Oetiker wrote: > I am using pdflatex (14h) to produce a catalog with many images. > After a few hundred images pdftex dies with the message > > pdflatex: > img_serialexperimentslainreset1113b00002e257.jpg: Too many open files \let\ORGpdfximage\pdfximage \def\pdfximage{\immediate\ORGpdfximage} And see the archive for the thread "Too many open files" Been there, done that, got the solution from Hans. :-) Best regards Martin -- http://www.tm.oneiros.de/calendar/2001/ _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 20-May-2001 12:01:58-GMT,2681;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA07725 for ; Sun, 20 May 2001 06:01:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 195732BA75; Sun, 20 May 2001 14:02:03 +0200 (CEST) Received: from blaubaer.kn-bremen.de (blaubaer.kn-bremen.de [195.37.179.254]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4KC13m03032 for ; Sun, 20 May 2001 14:01:03 +0200 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by blaubaer.kn-bremen.de (8.9.1/8.9.1) with UUCP id NAA27809 for pdftex@tug.org; Sun, 20 May 2001 13:59:56 +0200 Received: (from ms@localhost) by lucien.kn-bremen.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA28197 for pdftex@tug.org; Sun, 20 May 2001 13:18:12 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= To: pdfTeX Subject: Re: [pdftex] building pdftex 0.14h with teTeX Message-ID: <20010520131811.G27162@lucien.kn-bremen.de> Mail-Followup-To: pdfTeX References: <200104171936.f3HJZwm05686@tug.daimi.au.dk> <15068.44523.713606.617893@zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <15068.44523.713606.617893@zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de>; from reinhard@kammer.uni-hannover.de on Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 10:56:11PM +0200 Organization: ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Strasse 8, D-28359 Bremen X-Disclaimer: The views expressed are my own and not necessarily that of my employers. Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 13:18:11 +0200 On 2001-04-17 22:56:11 +0200, Reinhard Kotucha wrote: > Just unpack the pdftex tar file, "cd src && ./configure && make pdftex". > That should work. BTW: It would be nice if pdfetex where a separate target in the makefile so one could also do a "make pdfetex" (or it would be build by the pdftex target). Best regards Martin -- http://www.tm.oneiros.de/calendar/2001/ _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 21-May-2001 9:12:11-GMT,3605;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA15321 for ; Mon, 21 May 2001 03:12:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 10C3B2AE93; Mon, 21 May 2001 11:13:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ragtime.de (mail.besoftware.com [194.97.8.4]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4L9CBm07092 for ; Mon, 21 May 2001 11:12:11 +0200 Received: from [213.221.124.72] (213.221.124.72) by ragtime.de with ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 2.2.2); Mon, 21 May 2001 11:17:16 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: Jens.Adam@194.97.8.4 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20010420155506.009dfac0@server-1> References: <3.0.6.32.20010420155506.009dfac0@server-1> To: pdftex@tug.org From: Jens Adam Subject: Re: [pdftex] AR 5 not working with pdftex? Cc: Juergen Bausa , Hans Hagen Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 11:12:53 +0200 At 20.4.2001 15:55 +0200, Hans Hagen wrote: >At 02:55 PM 4/20/01 +0200, Juergen Bausa wrote: > >I just downloaded and installed Acrobat Reader 5.0.1 (german version). > >However, I found out that this version of the Reader cannot print my > >pdf-files (generated by pdflatex 14f from MikTeX 2.0UP1) on a Postscript > >printer under Windows NT. While on a non-Postscript printer everything is > >ok, when printing on a Postscript-printer I get the message 'A font could > >not be downloaded properly. The printout might be incorrect' (of course, > >in > >german). In the printout some of the cmr-fonts are exchanged against > >courier. > >With Acrobat Reader 4.05a everything is fine. > > > >Did someone else notice this? Is it a bug in the Reader or in pdftex? > I just experienced the same problem with Acrobat 5 (the "real" thing, not the reader). The Windows (ME, 2k) version gives the message reported by Juergen, the MacOS (8.6, X) version prints everything in Courier without even telling you about a problem. On screen everything looks fine, well, at least the correct fonts are visible, but the general appearance is bad compared to Acrobat 4. Character spacing and gray values are quite different and distracting. Are there any new findings regarding the printing problem? Jens PS: Im using pdfTeX, Version 3.14159-14e-released-20000217 (CMacTeX), which is, of course, not the latest version but the thesis of Han The Thanh was generated with 0.14h and doesn't print either (I tried page 50 which is featuring an Adobe Font). _______________________________________________ Dr. Jens F. Adam Leiter Dokumentation und Lokalisierung RagTime GmbH * Itterpark 5 * D-40724 Hilden Tel: [49] (2103) 9657-0 * http://www.ragtime.de _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 21-May-2001 9:56:10-GMT,3830;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA15539 for ; Mon, 21 May 2001 03:56:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 839812AE8C; Mon, 21 May 2001 11:57:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from tibre.ujf-grenoble.fr (tibre.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.238.31]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4L9uLm07340 for ; Mon, 21 May 2001 11:56:21 +0200 Received: from mozart.ujf-grenoble.Fr (mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.241.5]) by tibre.ujf-grenoble.fr (Pro-8.9.3/8.9.3/Configured by AD & JE 25/10/1999) with ESMTP id LAA11849; Mon, 21 May 2001 11:55:24 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from bouche@localhost) by mozart.ujf-grenoble.Fr (8.9.3/8.8.5) id LAA01821; Mon, 21 May 2001 11:54:08 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <200105210954.LAA01821@mozart.ujf-grenoble.Fr> From: Thierry Bouche To: Jens Adam Cc: pdftex@tug.org, Juergen Bausa , Hans Hagen Subject: Re: [pdftex] AR 5 not working with pdftex? In-Reply-To: References: <3.0.6.32.20010420155506.009dfac0@server-1> X-Mailer: VM 6.22 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 11:54:08 +0200 (MET DST) » I just experienced the same problem with Acrobat 5 (the "real" thing, not the reader). yes, same for me. Technically, I check (kind of preflight) that my PDF will be flashed smoothly by printing them to distiller. It worked perfectly with 4 (i.e. when distiller had problems, the PS printer driver on the mac and most RIP would have troubles too). Now, the same PDF won't print. So far, I managed to reduce the pb to a minimum: distiller seems to ignore the embedded fonts. If you include them, then you get a message that AIUXD+XXX can't be used, if you don't include them, it will search for the real XXX font in its font table (nothing related to system-wide installed fonts): you have to declare all the paths with the PFB that may be used in all your PDF in the settings of acrobat. This done, it actually works for all regular fonts. But synthesised fonts such as extended or slanted won't print, because distiller seems to believe that they should be actual fonts (CMR10_167, e.g.) that should have a related PFB. My hypothesis is that acrobat either downloads the subset chunks, which distiller is unable to interpret, or only the font names (without the PS snipet that would implement the modifs to the font dict such as FontMatrix in the case of synthesised fonts). This is a very bad thing, and I'm quite anxious about what will do the next generation of RIPs with our PDF files... On the other hand, it is a very good thing that now, the distiller printer control pannel allows to access the distiller job options--it acted as a somewhat unpredictible black box before... Thierry Bouche _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 21-May-2001 10:11:10-GMT,4099;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA15645 for ; Mon, 21 May 2001 04:11:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id BC1022BA71; Mon, 21 May 2001 12:12:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp8.xs4all.nl (smtp8.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.134]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4LABMm07493 for ; Mon, 21 May 2001 12:11:22 +0200 Received: from server-1.pragma-ade.nl (s340-isdn2322.dial.xs4all.nl [194.109.189.18]) by smtp8.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA05395; Mon, 21 May 2001 12:10:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: from laptop-1 (laptop-1.pragma-ade.nl [200.1.1.25]) by server-1.pragma-ade.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA25637; Mon, 21 May 2001 12:06:56 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20010521115807.00b8c1e0@server-1> X-Sender: hagen@server-1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) To: Jens Adam From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: [pdftex] AR 5 not working with pdftex? Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: References: <3.0.6.32.20010420155506.009dfac0@server-1> <3.0.6.32.20010420155506.009dfac0@server-1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 11:58:07 +0200 At 11:12 AM 5/21/01 +0200, Jens Adam wrote: >At 20.4.2001 15:55 +0200, Hans Hagen wrote: >>At 02:55 PM 4/20/01 +0200, Juergen Bausa wrote: >> >I just downloaded and installed Acrobat Reader 5.0.1 (german version). >> >However, I found out that this version of the Reader cannot print my >> >pdf-files (generated by pdflatex 14f from MikTeX 2.0UP1) on a Postscript >> >printer under Windows NT. While on a non-Postscript printer everything is >> >ok, when printing on a Postscript-printer I get the message 'A font could >> >not be downloaded properly. The printout might be incorrect' (of course, >> >in >> >german). In the printout some of the cmr-fonts are exchanged against >> >courier. >> >With Acrobat Reader 4.05a everything is fine. >> > >> >Did someone else notice this? Is it a bug in the Reader or in pdftex? >> > >I just experienced the same problem with Acrobat 5 (the "real" thing, not the reader). > >The Windows (ME, 2k) version gives the message reported by Juergen, the MacOS (8.6, X) version prints everything in Courier without even telling you about a problem. > >On screen everything looks fine, well, at least the correct fonts are visible, but the general appearance is bad compared to Acrobat 4. Character spacing and gray values are quite different and distracting. > >Are there any new findings regarding the printing problem? Maybe you have the adobe ps driver installed. Since acrobat sends pdf as ps to the printer (driver), maybe you need to update the ps driver. [there are more problems with acrobat 5, i just found a bug in field handling, which luckely can be solved by 'cleaning' up a file by a perl script] Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma@wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 21-May-2001 12:51:12-GMT,2217;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA16407 for ; Mon, 21 May 2001 06:51:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id CA7352AE8C; Mon, 21 May 2001 14:52:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from zevs.idi.ntnu.no (zevs.idi.ntnu.no [129.241.164.12]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4LCpnm08343 for ; Mon, 21 May 2001 14:51:49 +0200 Received: from bryssel (dhcp-111-15.idi.ntnu.no [129.241.111.250]) by zevs.idi.ntnu.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA17494 for ; Mon, 21 May 2001 14:50:52 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <00ba01c0e1f4$5c594d00$fa6ff181@ntnu.no> From: "Magnus Lie Hetland" To: "pdfTeX" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Subject: [pdftex] pdf inclusion Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 14:48:39 +0200 Hi! I just wondered... How much work is really being done when you include a pdf figure in pdfLaTeX? To what degree must it be interpreted to merge it into the resulting document etc? And where is the work done? (In graphicx?) -- Magnus Lie Hetland http://www.hetland.org "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away." -- Philip K. Dick _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 21-May-2001 13:44:11-GMT,3100;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA16737 for ; Mon, 21 May 2001 07:44:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id B593C2AE8F; Mon, 21 May 2001 15:45:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ragtime.de (mail.besoftware.com [194.97.8.4]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4LDiFm08706 for ; Mon, 21 May 2001 15:44:16 +0200 Received: from [213.221.124.72] (213.221.124.72) by ragtime.de with ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 2.2.2); Mon, 21 May 2001 15:50:36 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: Jens.Adam@194.97.8.4 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <200105210954.LAA01821@mozart.ujf-grenoble.Fr> References: <3.0.6.32.20010420155506.009dfac0@server-1> <200105210954.LAA01821@mozart.ujf-grenoble.Fr> To: Thierry Bouche From: Jens Adam Subject: Re: [pdftex] AR 5 not working with pdftex? Cc: pdftex@tug.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.daimi.au.dk id f4LDiFm08706 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 15:45:32 +0200 At 21.5.2001 11:54 +0200, Thierry Bouche wrote: >» I just experienced the same problem with Acrobat 5 (the "real" thing, not the reader). > >yes, same for me. Technically, I check (kind of preflight) that my PDF >will be flashed smoothly by printing them to distiller. It worked >perfectly with 4 (i.e. when distiller had problems, the PS printer >driver on the mac and most RIP would have troubles too). This is a good work-around if your main goal is printing. Unfortunately(?), I'm working on a set of PDF documents for on-screen viewing *and* printing. They contain bookmarks, notes and a lot of hyperlinks (intra- and interdocument) which I'm afraid wouldn't survive the round trip through distiller. If printing quality or speed is of no concern, the Acrobat switch "Print as Image" is a possibility to get something printed at all. Jens _______________________________________________ Dr. Jens F. Adam Leiter Dokumentation und Lokalisierung RagTime GmbH * Itterpark 5 * D-40724 Hilden Tel: [49] (2103) 9657-0 * http://www.ragtime.de _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 21-May-2001 16:49:10-GMT,2418;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA19352 for ; Mon, 21 May 2001 10:49:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 59F752AE8C; Mon, 21 May 2001 18:50:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from zambeze.ujf-grenoble.fr (zambeze.ujf-grenoble.fr [152.77.2.3]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4LGnem09804 for ; Mon, 21 May 2001 18:49:40 +0200 Received: from mozart.ujf-grenoble.Fr (mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.241.5]) by zambeze.ujf-grenoble.fr (Pro-8.9.3/8.9.3/Configured by AD & JE 25/10/1999) with ESMTP id SAA11690 for ; Mon, 21 May 2001 18:48:38 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from bouche@localhost) by mozart.ujf-grenoble.Fr (8.9.3/8.8.5) id SAA17396; Mon, 21 May 2001 18:48:22 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <200105211648.SAA17396@mozart.ujf-grenoble.Fr> From: Thierry Bouche To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] AR 5 not working with pdftex? In-Reply-To: References: <3.0.6.32.20010420155506.009dfac0@server-1> <200105210954.LAA01821@mozart.ujf-grenoble.Fr> X-Mailer: VM 6.22 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 18:48:22 +0200 (MET DST) BTW, it seems that we're talking of a known bug of acro5: http://www.micropress-inc.com/acr5bugs.htm Where two possible fixes are outlined: 1. (easy) imbed all the fonts completely 2. (hard...) make all subsetted fonts CFF Thierry _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 23-May-2001 17:17:10-GMT,2940;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA18582 for ; Wed, 23 May 2001 11:17:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id DF5CC2AE93; Wed, 23 May 2001 19:18:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4NHHSm20602 for ; Wed, 23 May 2001 19:17:28 +0200 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA25262; Wed, 23 May 2001 19:16:30 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA01137; Wed, 23 May 2001 19:16:30 +0200 (MET DST) From: Han The Thanh To: cswingle@iarc.uaf.edu, pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] AR 5 not working with pdftex? Message-ID: <20010523191629.I28343@anxur.fi.muni.cz> References: <3.0.6.32.20010420155506.009dfac0@server-1> <200105210954.LAA01821@mozart.ujf-grenoble.Fr> <200105211648.SAA17396@mozart.ujf-grenoble.Fr> <20010523081451.A8258@iarc.uaf.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20010523081451.A8258@iarc.uaf.edu>; from cswingle@iarc.uaf.edu on Wed, May 23, 2001 at 08:14:51AM -0800 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 19:16:30 +0200 On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 08:14:51AM -0800, Christopher S. Swingley wrote: > > BTW, it seems that we're talking of a known bug of acro5: > > > > http://www.micropress-inc.com/acr5bugs.htm > > > > Where two possible fixes are outlined: > > 1. (easy) imbed all the fonts completely > > 2. (hard...) make all subsetted fonts CFF > > Is there a switch to pdftex that will do either of these things? I > have grown dependent on PDF as a "portable" document format and it > really disturbs me that many of my documents no longer print correctly > for users who have "upgraded" their Acrobat Reader program. you can change '<' to '<<' (before font file name) in your map files to switch off partial downloading. Thanh _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 23-May-2001 17:41:09-GMT,4089;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA18990 for ; Wed, 23 May 2001 11:41:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 59AF92AE98; Wed, 23 May 2001 19:42:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from nika.frontier.iarc.uaf.edu (nika.frontier.iarc.uaf.edu [137.229.94.16]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4NHf5m20755 for ; Wed, 23 May 2001 19:41:05 +0200 Received: by nika.frontier.iarc.uaf.edu (Postfix, from userid 1112) id C8F0714130; Wed, 23 May 2001 09:40:24 -0800 (AKDT) From: "Christopher S. Swingley" To: Han The Thanh Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] AR 5 not working with pdftex? Message-ID: <20010523094024.B8531@iarc.uaf.edu> Mail-Followup-To: "Christopher S. Swingley" , Han The Thanh , pdftex@tug.org References: <3.0.6.32.20010420155506.009dfac0@server-1> <200105210954.LAA01821@mozart.ujf-grenoble.Fr> <200105211648.SAA17396@mozart.ujf-grenoble.Fr> <20010523081451.A8258@iarc.uaf.edu> <20010523191629.I28343@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i In-Reply-To: <20010523191629.I28343@anxur.fi.muni.cz>; from thanh@informatics.muni.cz on Wed, May 23, 2001 at 07:16:30PM +0200 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 09:40:24 -0800 Thanh, > > > Where two possible fixes are outlined: > > > 1. (easy) imbed all the fonts completely > > > 2. (hard...) make all subsetted fonts CFF > > > > Is there a switch to pdftex that will do either of these things? I > > have grown dependent on PDF as a "portable" document format and it > > really disturbs me that many of my documents no longer print correctly > > for users who have "upgraded" their Acrobat Reader program. > > you can change '<' to '<<' (before font file name) in your map files to > switch off partial downloading. Sorry to be obtuse about this, but which map files are you referring to? I searched my TEXMF directory and found quite a few '*.map' files that appear to have something to do with PostScript fonts but don't have any '<' in them. I also found a fontmap.map file associated with dvips (TEXMF/dvips/base/), but this file doesn't contain a line for the font I'm having problems with (cmr10). The Acrobat Reader 5.0 problem only seems to appear with the default TeX font (\rm) at 10 pt. All the other fonts appear just fine (bold, italics, fonts at other sizes, non-Computer Modern fonts, etc.). It's as though pdftex is properly embedding all the fonts I'm declaring, but is assuming that the base font is already there. By the way, I realize this is an Acrobat Reader problem, not a problem with pdfTeX, I am just hoping there is a work-around with TeX since Adobe obviously doesn't care about backward compatibility. Thanks, Chris -- Christopher S. Swingley 930 Koyukuk Drive System / Network Manager University of Alaska Fairbanks IARC -- Frontier Program Fairbanks, AK 99775 phone: 907-474-2689 fax: 907-474-2643 email: cswingle@iarc.uaf.edu GNUPG and PGP2 keys at my web site web: http://www.frontier.iarc.uaf.edu/~cswingle _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 23-May-2001 17:53:09-GMT,2586;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA19152 for ; Wed, 23 May 2001 11:53:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id A199E2AE8C; Wed, 23 May 2001 19:54:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mta4 (mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.10]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4NHrbm20852 for ; Wed, 23 May 2001 19:53:37 +0200 Received: from wesley.springies.com (ool-18bad03c.dyn.optonline.net [24.186.208.60]) by mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.0 Patch 2 (built Dec 14 2000)) with ESMTP id <0GDS00FOTUZQ1B@mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for pdftex@tug.org; Wed, 23 May 2001 13:52:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ats by wesley.springies.com with local (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian)) id 152coL-0000WA-00 for ; Wed, 23 May 2001 13:52:41 -0400 From: Alan Shutko In-reply-to: <200105211648.SAA17396@mozart.ujf-grenoble.Fr> To: pdftex@tug.org Message-id: <87g0dwvttz.fsf@wesley.springies.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) Emacs/21.0.103 Lines: 10 References: <3.0.6.32.20010420155506.009dfac0@server-1> <200105210954.LAA01821@mozart.ujf-grenoble.Fr> <200105211648.SAA17396@mozart.ujf-grenoble.Fr> Subject: [pdftex] Re: AR 5 not working with pdftex? Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 13:52:41 -0400 Thierry Bouche writes: > 1. (easy) imbed all the fonts completely Just be careful with your font licenses when doing this... this may not be allowed. 8^( -- Alan Shutko - In a variety of flavors! 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Swingley" , pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] AR 5 not working with pdftex? Message-ID: <20010523202740.B3535@anxur.fi.muni.cz> References: <3.0.6.32.20010420155506.009dfac0@server-1> <200105210954.LAA01821@mozart.ujf-grenoble.Fr> <200105211648.SAA17396@mozart.ujf-grenoble.Fr> <20010523081451.A8258@iarc.uaf.edu> <20010523191629.I28343@anxur.fi.muni.cz> <20010523094024.B8531@iarc.uaf.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Nq2Wo0NMKNjxTN9z" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20010523094024.B8531@iarc.uaf.edu>; from cswingle@iarc.uaf.edu on Wed, May 23, 2001 at 09:40:24AM -0800 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 20:27:40 +0200 --Nq2Wo0NMKNjxTN9z Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline > Sorry to be obtuse about this, but which map files are you referring > to? I searched my TEXMF directory and found quite a few '*.map' files > that appear to have something to do with PostScript fonts but don't > have any '<' in them. I also found a fontmap.map file associated > with dvips (TEXMF/dvips/base/), but this file doesn't contain a line > for the font I'm having problems with (cmr10). The map files that are listed in your pdftex.cfg (usually under $TEXMF/pdftex/config) I appended a script which writes all file names tex opened into a file kp.lst Usage: ls-tex-files pdflatex foo.tex Then you can look into kp.lst to see which files have been opened. This script only works for web2c-based programs. HTH, Thanh --Nq2Wo0NMKNjxTN9z Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=ls-tex-files #!/bin/bash program=$1 shift filelist="kp.lst" eval "$program -kp=4 $* 2>$filelist" perl -i -e 'while (<>) { if (/^kdebug:fopen\((.*?), rb?\) => 0x\w+/) { print $1, "\n"; } }' $filelist --Nq2Wo0NMKNjxTN9z-- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 23-May-2001 20:48:10-GMT,3067;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA22588 for ; Wed, 23 May 2001 14:48:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 5B2A52AE8B; Wed, 23 May 2001 22:49:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from nika.frontier.iarc.uaf.edu (nika.frontier.iarc.uaf.edu [137.229.94.16]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4NKmUm21588 for ; Wed, 23 May 2001 22:48:31 +0200 Received: by nika.frontier.iarc.uaf.edu (Postfix, from userid 1112) id 8FEBF14130; Wed, 23 May 2001 12:47:51 -0800 (AKDT) From: "Christopher S. Swingley" To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] AR 5 not working with pdftex? Message-ID: <20010523124750.A9274@iarc.uaf.edu> Mail-Followup-To: "Christopher S. Swingley" , pdftex@tug.org References: <3.0.6.32.20010420155506.009dfac0@server-1> <200105210954.LAA01821@mozart.ujf-grenoble.Fr> <200105211648.SAA17396@mozart.ujf-grenoble.Fr> <20010523081451.A8258@iarc.uaf.edu> <20010523191629.I28343@anxur.fi.muni.cz> <20010523094024.B8531@iarc.uaf.edu> <20010523202740.B3535@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i In-Reply-To: <20010523202740.B3535@anxur.fi.muni.cz>; from thanh@informatics.muni.cz on Wed, May 23, 2001 at 08:27:40PM +0200 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 12:47:50 -0800 Than, > The map files that are listed in your pdftex.cfg (usually under > $TEXMF/pdftex/config) Thanks, I found it in /etc/texmf/dvips/pdftex.map and changed the '<' to '<<'. This solves the problem with it being unable to download one of the fonts (so the font isn't substituted in the printout), but it causes another -- the ligatures are missing! Acrobat and Acrobat Reader 5.0 show them correctly on the screen, but there is a blank space on the printed copy. Chris -- Christopher S. Swingley 930 Koyukuk Drive System / Network Manager University of Alaska Fairbanks IARC -- Frontier Program Fairbanks, AK 99775 phone: 907-474-2689 fax: 907-474-2643 email: cswingle@iarc.uaf.edu GNUPG and PGP2 keys at my web site web: http://www.frontier.iarc.uaf.edu/~cswingle _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 23-May-2001 21:27:08-GMT,3400;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA23437 for ; Wed, 23 May 2001 15:27:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 726212AE93; Wed, 23 May 2001 23:28:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from aecl.ca (gw.aecl.ca [132.225.5.10]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4NLRmm21797 for ; Wed, 23 May 2001 23:27:50 +0200 Received: from crs27.crl.aecl.ca ([132.225.33.23]) by gw.aecl.ca with ESMTP id <119709>; Wed, 23 May 2001 13:36:14 -0400 Received: by crs27.crl.aecl.ca with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 23 May 2001 13:33:21 -0400 Message-ID: <0F36CD681E3DD311B49E00805F3160BC01AF078B@crs27.crl.aecl.ca> From: "Beuthe, Thomas" To: "'cswingle@iarc.uaf.edu'" Cc: "'pdftex@tug.org'" Subject: RE: [pdftex] AR 5 not working with pdftex? MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 13:33:19 -0400 Embedding all of your fonts is something you should always consider doing anyway, as the portability of the document would not be guaranteed otherwise. This was an issue with the default installation of 4.0 distiller. By default it didn't embed the more common fonts, and as a result, it caused problems across platforms (Windows versus Mac) So, in general, it's a good idea to embed ALL fonts! -----Original Message----- From: cswingle@iarc.uaf.edu [mailto:cswingle@iarc.uaf.edu] Sent: Wednesday May 23, 2001 12:15 PM To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] AR 5 not working with pdftex? > BTW, it seems that we're talking of a known bug of acro5: > > http://www.micropress-inc.com/acr5bugs.htm > > Where two possible fixes are outlined: > 1. (easy) imbed all the fonts completely > 2. (hard...) make all subsetted fonts CFF Is there a switch to pdftex that will do either of these things? I have grown dependent on PDF as a "portable" document format and it really disturbs me that many of my documents no longer print correctly for users who have "upgraded" their Acrobat Reader program. Thanks, Chris -- Christopher S. Swingley 930 Koyukuk Drive System / Network Manager University of Alaska Fairbanks IARC -- Frontier Program Fairbanks, AK 99775 phone: 907-474-2689 fax: 907-474-2643 email: cswingle@iarc.uaf.edu GNUPG and PGP2 keys at my web site web: http://www.frontier.iarc.uaf.edu/~cswingle _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 23-May-2001 21:39:11-GMT,3961;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA23678 for ; Wed, 23 May 2001 15:39:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id C703A2BA75; Wed, 23 May 2001 23:40:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de (zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.53]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4NLdmm21893 for ; Wed, 23 May 2001 23:39:48 +0200 Received: from zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de.kammer.uni-hannover.de (reinhard@zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.54]) by zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA15667; Wed, 23 May 2001 23:37:06 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de: Host reinhard@zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.54] claimed to be zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de.kammer.uni-hannover.de From: Reinhard Kotucha MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15116.11754.855128.638187@zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de> To: "Christopher S. Swingley" Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] AR 5 not working with pdftex? In-Reply-To: <20010523124750.A9274@iarc.uaf.edu> References: <3.0.6.32.20010420155506.009dfac0@server-1> <200105210954.LAA01821@mozart.ujf-grenoble.Fr> <200105211648.SAA17396@mozart.ujf-grenoble.Fr> <20010523081451.A8258@iarc.uaf.edu> <20010523191629.I28343@anxur.fi.muni.cz> <20010523094024.B8531@iarc.uaf.edu> <20010523202740.B3535@anxur.fi.muni.cz> <20010523124750.A9274@iarc.uaf.edu> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under Emacs 20.7.2 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 23:38:50 +0200 >>>>> "Christopher" == Christopher S Swingley writes: > Than, >> The map files that are listed in your pdftex.cfg (usually under >> $TEXMF/pdftex/config) > Thanks, I found it in /etc/texmf/dvips/pdftex.map and changed > the '<' to '<<'. This solves the problem with it being unable > to download one of the fonts (so the font isn't substituted in > the printout), but it causes another -- the ligatures are > missing! Acrobat and Acrobat Reader 5.0 show them correctly on > the screen, but there is a blank space on the printed copy. Hi Chris, Acobat Reader 4.0 produced totally different PostScript code if one prints from the menu or from the command line. It seems to make sense to try both. I suppose that there are two groups of developers at Adobe where each doesn't know about the existence of the other. Reinhard PS.: Obviously there is a third group, responsible for documentation. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Reinhard Kotucha Phone: +49-511-751355 Berggartenstr. 9 D-30419 Hannover mailto:reinhard@kammer.uni-hannover.de ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Microsoft isn't the answer. Microsoft is the question, and the answer is NO. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 23-May-2001 16:15:10-GMT,2942;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA17000 for ; Wed, 23 May 2001 10:15:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id A5EAD2AE8B; Wed, 23 May 2001 18:16:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from nika.frontier.iarc.uaf.edu (nika.frontier.iarc.uaf.edu [137.229.94.16]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4NGFXm20316 for ; Wed, 23 May 2001 18:15:34 +0200 Received: by nika.frontier.iarc.uaf.edu (Postfix, from userid 1112) id 9CA6C14130; Wed, 23 May 2001 08:14:51 -0800 (AKDT) To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] AR 5 not working with pdftex? Message-ID: <20010523081451.A8258@iarc.uaf.edu> Mail-Followup-To: cswingle@iarc.uaf.edu, pdftex@tug.org References: <3.0.6.32.20010420155506.009dfac0@server-1> <200105210954.LAA01821@mozart.ujf-grenoble.Fr> <200105211648.SAA17396@mozart.ujf-grenoble.Fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i In-Reply-To: <200105211648.SAA17396@mozart.ujf-grenoble.Fr>; from Thierry.Bouche@ujf-grenoble.fr on Mon, May 21, 2001 at 06:48:22PM +0200 From: cswingle@iarc.uaf.edu (Christopher S. Swingley) Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 08:14:51 -0800 > BTW, it seems that we're talking of a known bug of acro5: > > http://www.micropress-inc.com/acr5bugs.htm > > Where two possible fixes are outlined: > 1. (easy) imbed all the fonts completely > 2. (hard...) make all subsetted fonts CFF Is there a switch to pdftex that will do either of these things? I have grown dependent on PDF as a "portable" document format and it really disturbs me that many of my documents no longer print correctly for users who have "upgraded" their Acrobat Reader program. Thanks, Chris -- Christopher S. Swingley 930 Koyukuk Drive System / Network Manager University of Alaska Fairbanks IARC -- Frontier Program Fairbanks, AK 99775 phone: 907-474-2689 fax: 907-474-2643 email: cswingle@iarc.uaf.edu GNUPG and PGP2 keys at my web site web: http://www.frontier.iarc.uaf.edu/~cswingle _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 24-May-2001 9:51:10-GMT,3026;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA01812 for ; Thu, 24 May 2001 03:51:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 40DB22AE8B; Thu, 24 May 2001 11:52:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from lorica.ucc.usyd.edu.au (lorica.ucc.usyd.edu.au [129.78.64.15]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4O9pgm24184 for ; Thu, 24 May 2001 11:51:43 +0200 Received: from pilum.ucc.usyd.edu.au (pilum.ucc.usyd.edu.au [129.78.64.178]) by lorica.ucc.usyd.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA06757; Thu, 24 May 2001 19:50:42 +1000 (EST) Received: (from wwwmail@localhost) by pilum.ucc.usyd.edu.au (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f4O9oBX01172; Thu, 24 May 2001 19:50:11 +1000 To: "Beuthe, Thomas" Subject: RE: [pdftex] AR 5 not working with pdftex? Message-ID: <990697811.3b0cd953535e5@www-mail.usyd.edu.au> From: rhowlett@mail.usyd.edu.au Cc: "'pdftex@tug.org'" References: <0F36CD681E3DD311B49E00805F3160BC01AF078B@crs27.crl.aecl.ca> In-Reply-To: <0F36CD681E3DD311B49E00805F3160BC01AF078B@crs27.crl.aecl.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: IMP/PHP IMAP webmail program 2.2.3 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 19:50:11 +1000 (EST) Quoting "Beuthe, Thomas" : > Embedding all of your fonts is something you should always > consider doing anyway, as the portability of the document > would not be guaranteed otherwise. This was an issue > with the default installation of 4.0 distiller. > By default it didn't embed the more common fonts, > and as a result, it caused problems across platforms > (Windows versus Mac) > We certainly don't want to have to completely embed all fonts forever more -- really, embedding just the characters one uses ought to be enough. I wouldn't mind changing my <'s to <<'s as a temporary measure if I thought Adobe would fix the problem soon --- but I rather expect that it will take them the best part of a year. So, what about CFF? Is there anyone out there contemplating producing tools for handling this? What are the issues? Bob Howlett ------------------------------------------------- This mail sent through IMP: www-mail.usyd.edu.au _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 24-May-2001 11:15:10-GMT,3605;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA02522 for ; Thu, 24 May 2001 05:15:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 39F4E2AE8B; Thu, 24 May 2001 13:16:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from life.ai.mit.edu (life.ai.mit.edu [128.52.32.80]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4OBFsm24552 for ; Thu, 24 May 2001 13:15:54 +0200 Received: from MAURITIUS.smtp.tiac.net (maui [128.52.37.105]) by life.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/AI2.13/ai.master.life:2.21) with ESMTP id HAA07799; Thu, 24 May 2001 07:14:55 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20010524071102.029a0250@pop.tiac.net> X-Sender: yandy@pop.tiac.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 To: "pdftex@tug.org" From: Y&Y Support Subject: RE: [pdftex] AR 5 not working with pdftex? In-Reply-To: <990697811.3b0cd953535e5@www-mail.usyd.edu.au> References: <0F36CD681E3DD311B49E00805F3160BC01AF078B@crs27.crl.aecl.ca> <0F36CD681E3DD311B49E00805F3160BC01AF078B@crs27.crl.aecl.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 07:14:53 -0400 It should be pointed out that these "problems" with Acrobat are not universal, but a function of how the PDF is produced. For example, we don't see any of these problems with PDF from Y&Y TeX and Distiller 4.0 or Distiller 5.0. This could be a result of numerous work arounds for "misfeatures" that went into the system to deal with bugs in previous versions of Acrobat. http://www.yandy.com/download/mtpsample.pdf http://www.yandy.com/download/mtpguide.pdf http://www.yandy.com/download/mtpfoam.pdf http://www.yandy.com/download/scenesem.pdf At 19:50 2001-05-24 +1000, you wrote: >Quoting "Beuthe, Thomas" : > > > Embedding all of your fonts is something you should always > > consider doing anyway, as the portability of the document > > would not be guaranteed otherwise. This was an issue > > with the default installation of 4.0 distiller. > > By default it didn't embed the more common fonts, > > and as a result, it caused problems across platforms > > (Windows versus Mac) > >We certainly don't want to have to completely embed >all fonts forever more -- really, embedding just the >characters one uses ought to be enough. I wouldn't >mind changing my <'s to <<'s as a temporary measure >if I thought Adobe would fix the problem soon --- but >I rather expect that it will take them the best part >of a year. > >Bob Howlett >------------------------------------------------- >This mail sent through IMP: www-mail.usyd.edu.au >_______________________________________________ >pdftex mailing list >pdftex@tug.org >http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex -- Y&Y, Inc. Support mailto:support@YandY.com http://www.YandY.com (MT) _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 24-May-2001 13:44:09-GMT,4123;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA03779 for ; Thu, 24 May 2001 07:44:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 57E1F2AE8B; Thu, 24 May 2001 15:45:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from aecl.ca (mail.aecl.ca [132.225.5.10]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4ODi1m25141 for ; Thu, 24 May 2001 15:44:04 +0200 Received: from crs27.crl.aecl.ca ([132.225.33.23]) by gw.aecl.ca with ESMTP id <119513>; Thu, 24 May 2001 09:44:16 -0400 Received: by crs27.crl.aecl.ca with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 24 May 2001 09:42:34 -0400 Message-ID: <0F36CD681E3DD311B49E00805F3160BC01AF078F@crs27.crl.aecl.ca> From: "Beuthe, Thomas" To: "'Y&Y Support'" Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: RE: [pdftex] AR 5 not working with pdftex? MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 09:42:33 -0400 Agreed, I don't have the problems when using Y&Y, but if you embed postscript created from other applications into a Y&Y document (like those produced from Corel Draw for example), you can still have problems! :-) You're better protected, but not immune! I'm speaking from very hard personal experience here... :-) But, agreed, the problem did NOT lie with Y&Y! Thomas -----Original Message----- From: Y&Y Support [mailto:support@YandY.com] Sent: Thursday May 24, 2001 7:15 AM To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: RE: [pdftex] AR 5 not working with pdftex? It should be pointed out that these "problems" with Acrobat are not universal, but a function of how the PDF is produced. For example, we don't see any of these problems with PDF from Y&Y TeX and Distiller 4.0 or Distiller 5.0. This could be a result of numerous work arounds for "misfeatures" that went into the system to deal with bugs in previous versions of Acrobat. http://www.yandy.com/download/mtpsample.pdf http://www.yandy.com/download/mtpguide.pdf http://www.yandy.com/download/mtpfoam.pdf http://www.yandy.com/download/scenesem.pdf At 19:50 2001-05-24 +1000, you wrote: >Quoting "Beuthe, Thomas" : > > > Embedding all of your fonts is something you should always > > consider doing anyway, as the portability of the document > > would not be guaranteed otherwise. This was an issue > > with the default installation of 4.0 distiller. > > By default it didn't embed the more common fonts, > > and as a result, it caused problems across platforms > > (Windows versus Mac) > >We certainly don't want to have to completely embed >all fonts forever more -- really, embedding just the >characters one uses ought to be enough. I wouldn't >mind changing my <'s to <<'s as a temporary measure >if I thought Adobe would fix the problem soon --- but >I rather expect that it will take them the best part >of a year. > >Bob Howlett >------------------------------------------------- >This mail sent through IMP: www-mail.usyd.edu.au >_______________________________________________ >pdftex mailing list >pdftex@tug.org >http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex -- Y&Y, Inc. Support mailto:support@YandY.com http://www.YandY.com (MT) _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 24-May-2001 16:41:10-GMT,2876;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA06341 for ; Thu, 24 May 2001 10:41:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 0EDD62AE8B; Thu, 24 May 2001 18:42:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp9.xs4all.nl (smtp9.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.135]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4OGfdm25825 for ; Thu, 24 May 2001 18:41:39 +0200 Received: from server-1.pragma-ade.nl (s340-isdn2665.dial.xs4all.nl [194.109.190.105]) by smtp9.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA11196 for ; Thu, 24 May 2001 18:40:36 +0200 (CEST) Received: from laptop-1 ([200.1.1.42]) by server-1.pragma-ade.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA10500 for ; Thu, 24 May 2001 18:38:17 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20010524181658.016883e0@server-1> X-Sender: hagen@server-1 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) To: pdftex@tug.org From: Hans Hagen Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: [pdftex] acrobat 5 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 18:16:58 +0200 Hi, Am I right that apart from every version of acrobat having different shortcuts (prev jump, full screen, etc) and menus and alike, this version again has a different concept of page transitions (that is, do they work at all) or maybe i've missed some important settings? (Given that i encounter some more bugs, as well as that other bugs are reported on this list), if I had that large a company as adobe, i would put some people on testing before shipping -) And what is meant with "some viewer applications may allow a document ... " p395? Does it mean that only acrobat exchange supports transitions? Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma@wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 24-May-2001 16:42:09-GMT,3302;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA06362 for ; Thu, 24 May 2001 10:42:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id A7E632AE98; Thu, 24 May 2001 18:43:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp9.xs4all.nl (smtp9.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.135]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4OGgPm25897 for ; Thu, 24 May 2001 18:42:25 +0200 Received: from server-1.pragma-ade.nl (s340-isdn2665.dial.xs4all.nl [194.109.190.105]) by smtp9.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA12766; Thu, 24 May 2001 18:41:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: from laptop-1 ([200.1.1.42]) by server-1.pragma-ade.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA10497; Thu, 24 May 2001 18:38:13 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20010524174240.016883e0@server-1> X-Sender: hagen@server-1 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) To: Reinhard Kotucha From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: [pdftex] AR 5 not working with pdftex? Cc: "Christopher S. Swingley" , pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: <15116.11754.855128.638187@zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de > References: <20010523124750.A9274@iarc.uaf.edu> <3.0.6.32.20010420155506.009dfac0@server-1> <200105210954.LAA01821@mozart.ujf-grenoble.Fr> <200105211648.SAA17396@mozart.ujf-grenoble.Fr> <20010523081451.A8258@iarc.uaf.edu> <20010523191629.I28343@anxur.fi.muni.cz> <20010523094024.B8531@iarc.uaf.edu> <20010523202740.B3535@anxur.fi.muni.cz> <20010523124750.A9274@iarc.uaf.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 17:42:40 +0200 At 11:38 PM 5/23/01 +0200, Reinhard Kotucha wrote: >Acobat Reader 4.0 produced totally different PostScript code if one >prints from the menu or from the command line. It seems to make sense >to try both. it may be that one uses the gui to produce the ps, andtherefore the gui-ps interface, while the other uses the export filter build into acrobat [plugin], which means that the later is the better. Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma@wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 24-May-2001 17:03:09-GMT,3026;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA06785 for ; Thu, 24 May 2001 11:03:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 8EC722AE8C; Thu, 24 May 2001 19:04:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp9.xs4all.nl (smtp9.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.135]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4OH3cm26000 for ; Thu, 24 May 2001 19:03:38 +0200 Received: from server-1.pragma-ade.nl (s340-modem3394.dial.xs4all.nl [194.109.173.66]) by smtp9.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA24177; Thu, 24 May 2001 19:02:40 +0200 (CEST) Received: from laptop-1 ([200.1.1.42]) by server-1.pragma-ade.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA10544; Thu, 24 May 2001 18:46:32 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20010524184350.01694370@server-1> X-Sender: hagen@server-1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) To: Y&Y Support From: Hans Hagen Subject: RE: [pdftex] AR 5 not working with pdftex? Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20010524071102.029a0250@pop.tiac.net> References: <990697811.3b0cd953535e5@www-mail.usyd.edu.au> <0F36CD681E3DD311B49E00805F3160BC01AF078B@crs27.crl.aecl.ca> <0F36CD681E3DD311B49E00805F3160BC01AF078B@crs27.crl.aecl.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 18:43:50 +0200 At 07:14 AM 5/24/01 -0400, you wrote: >It should be pointed out that these "problems" with Acrobat >are not universal, but a function of how the PDF is produced. >This could be a result of numerous work arounds for >"misfeatures" that went into the system to deal with >bugs in previous versions of Acrobat. this is kind of in contradiction, if workaround were needed, then who can blame the workarounds -) [furthermore, i haven't used distiller for documents for years, except for quicky converting eps's] Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma@wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 24-May-2001 17:09:09-GMT,3979;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA06899 for ; Thu, 24 May 2001 11:09:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 708142AE8B; Thu, 24 May 2001 19:10:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from life.ai.mit.edu (ai.mit.edu [128.52.32.80]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4OH92m26084 for ; Thu, 24 May 2001 19:09:02 +0200 Received: from MAURITIUS.smtp.tiac.net (maui [128.52.37.105]) by life.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/AI2.13/ai.master.life:2.21) with ESMTP id NAA19303; Thu, 24 May 2001 13:07:54 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20010524125724.02f00f08@pop.tiac.net> X-Sender: yandy@pop.tiac.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 To: Hans Hagen , pdftex@tug.org From: Y&Y Support Subject: Re: [pdftex] acrobat 5 In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20010524181658.016883e0@server-1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 13:07:52 -0400 At 18:16 2001-05-24 +0200, Hans Hagen wrote: >all) or maybe i've missed some important settings? (Given that i encounter >some more bugs, as well as that other bugs are reported on this list), if I >had that large a company as adobe, i would put some people on testing >before shipping -) It is possible to get on their beta test list, although not easy. But remember that "fixing bugs does not sell upgrades," while "adding many new features" apparently does, even if noone in his right mind uses them. Also, Adobe like most large software companies apparently has a number of interesting policies such as: (i) do not keep a test suite of cases that led to problems in the past; (ii) do not keep a list of bugs in previous versions to make sure they are not repeated; (iii) do not keep programmers around from the last set of revisions --- always hire new ones, and promote good programmers to management and marketing; (iv) do not respond at all to bug reports in between development cycles --- simply discard them, since at that time no programmer is assigned to the product; (v) make it next to impossible to report bugs (it cost me $20 of "technical support" phone time to report a bug in Distiller - which, of course, was not fixed); (vi) build a force shield to insulate developers from users to make sure they do not make the mistake of wasting precious time on fixing bugs, or listening to users requests; One consequence is that we have seen the same bugs repeated on a regular basis, more or less every time a new release of an application comes out --- just when it comes to fonts for e.g.: (i) treat strings as null delimited - causing problems with character code 0; (ii) treat control characters (0--31) incorrectly; (iii) do not deal correctly with repeated encoding (glyphname appears in more than one place in encoding vector); (iv) crash when the size of the Subr vector is smaller *or* larger than required; (v) crash when the size of the CharStrings array is smaller *or* larger than required. (vi) crash when there are no Subrs or no OtherSubrs; etc. etc. Regards, Louis. -- Y&Y, Inc. Support mailto:support@YandY.com http://www.YandY.com (MT) _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 24-May-2001 20:02:08-GMT,2822;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA09841 for ; Thu, 24 May 2001 14:02:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id CE2B52AE8B; Thu, 24 May 2001 22:03:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from blaubaer.kn-bremen.de (blaubaer.kn-bremen.de [195.37.179.254]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4OK2Em26766 for ; Thu, 24 May 2001 22:02:15 +0200 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by blaubaer.kn-bremen.de (8.9.1/8.9.1) with UUCP id WAA16962 for pdftex@tug.org; Thu, 24 May 2001 22:00:56 +0200 Received: (from ms@localhost) by lucien.kn-bremen.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA28748 for pdftex@tug.org; Thu, 24 May 2001 21:57:55 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] acrobat 5 Message-ID: <20010524215754.A28722@lucien.kn-bremen.de> Mail-Followup-To: pdftex@tug.org References: <3.0.6.32.20010524181658.016883e0@server-1> <5.1.0.14.2.20010524125724.02f00f08@pop.tiac.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20010524125724.02f00f08@pop.tiac.net>; from support@YandY.com on Thu, May 24, 2001 at 01:07:52PM -0400 Organization: ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Strasse 8, D-28359 Bremen X-Disclaimer: The views expressed are my own and not necessarily that of my employers. Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 21:57:54 +0200 On 2001-05-24 13:07:52 -0400, Y&Y Support wrote: > One consequence is that we have seen the same bugs repeated on > a regular basis, more or less every time a new release of an > application comes out --- just when it comes to fonts for e.g.: Just a reminder: There are at least two other applications out there for producing PDF (but no competition for the full Acrobat suite): - Jawssystem's PDF Creator (or whatever it is called today) - GhostScript both with IMHO very good support (but I am biased in regard to Jaws). Best regards Martin -- http://www.tm.oneiros.de/calendar/2001/ _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 24-May-2001 20:51:08-GMT,2348;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA10630 for ; Thu, 24 May 2001 14:51:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id C6DD82AE8C; Thu, 24 May 2001 22:52:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from host75-150.student.udel.edu (host75-150.student.udel.edu [128.175.75.150]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4OKpOm27028 for ; Thu, 24 May 2001 22:51:24 +0200 Received: from localhost (jkitchin@localhost) by host75-150.student.udel.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f4OKkI805419 for ; Thu, 24 May 2001 16:46:18 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: host75-150.student.udel.edu: jkitchin owned process doing -bs From: John Robert Kitchin X-X-Sender: To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [pdftex] hyperlinks to other documents in the pdf file Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 16:46:18 -0400 (EDT) Hello, I have been trying to include hyperlinks to other types of files in the pdf files generated by pdflatex. I have been using \href, but it is not working. If the file it refers to is a pdf file, then acrobat reader opens it just fine, and if it refers to an html document somewhere, netscape launches and finds the document fine. But if it is anything else, such as a tif or txt file, netscape complains that it can't find the server or something similar. Am I missing something? Thanks, j _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 24-May-2001 21:36:09-GMT,2994;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA11358 for ; Thu, 24 May 2001 15:36:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 171912AE8F; Thu, 24 May 2001 23:37:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from hal.kabsi.at (strange.kabsi.at [195.202.128.71]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4OLaFm27234 for ; Thu, 24 May 2001 23:36:15 +0200 Received: from gobin (cm.med.3284842061.kabelnet.net [195.202.182.77]) by hal.kabsi.at (8.10.2/) with SMTP id f4OLYjP0000621045; Thu, 24 May 2001 23:34:45 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <001301c0e499$cddcc220$4db6cac3@kabsi.at> From: "Andreas Matthias" To: "John Robert Kitchin" , References: Subject: Re: [pdftex] hyperlinks to other documents in the pdf file MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 23:37:58 +0200 From: "John Robert Kitchin" > I have been trying to include hyperlinks to other types of files in the > pdf files generated by pdflatex. I have been using \href, but it is not > working. If the file it refers to is a pdf file, then acrobat reader > opens it just fine, and if it refers to an html document somewhere, > netscape launches and finds the document fine. But if it is anything else, > such as a tif or txt file, netscape complains that it can't find the > server or something similar. Am I missing something? PDF specifies a so called `Launch Action' with which you can launch any application. Provided that the operating systems knows what to do with a special file type. Try the following. Greetings, Andreas \documentclass{article} \newsavebox{\MyBox} \newcommand{\StartApp}[2]{% \savebox{\MyBox}{#1}% \hskip0pt \pdfannot width \wd\MyBox height \ht\MyBox depth \dp\MyBox{ /Subtype /Link /A << /S /Launch /F (#2) >> %/Border [16 16 0] }#1} \begin{document} \StartApp{Kick me}{movie.mpeg} \end{document} _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 25-May-2001 16:36:10-GMT,4372;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA24440 for ; Fri, 25 May 2001 10:36:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 319C32AE8B; Fri, 25 May 2001 18:37:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp1.xs4all.nl (smtp1.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.131]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4PGatm31371 for ; Fri, 25 May 2001 18:36:55 +0200 Received: from server-1.pragma-ade.nl (s340-modem3265.dial.xs4all.nl [194.109.172.193]) by smtp1.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA20093; Fri, 25 May 2001 18:35:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: from laptop-1 ([200.1.1.42]) by server-1.pragma-ade.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA15692; Fri, 25 May 2001 18:12:13 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20010525012041.009bdcb0@server-1> X-Sender: hagen@server-1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) To: Y&Y Support From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: [pdftex] acrobat 5 Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20010524125724.02f00f08@pop.tiac.net> References: <3.0.6.32.20010524181658.016883e0@server-1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 01:20:41 +0200 At 01:07 PM 5/24/01 -0400, Y&Y Support wrote: >At 18:16 2001-05-24 +0200, Hans Hagen wrote: > >>all) or maybe i've missed some important settings? (Given that i encounter >>some more bugs, as well as that other bugs are reported on this list), if I >>had that large a company as adobe, i would put some people on testing >>before shipping -) > >It is possible to get on their beta test list, although not easy. i used to be even in the alpha but those alpha/beta programs are killed with a release and i think that all info gets lost >(iv) do not respond at all to bug reports in between development cycles --- >simply discard them, since at that time no programmer is assigned to the >product; Why do you think that i've given up reporting bugs at all? >(v) make it next to impossible to report bugs (it cost me $20 of >"technical support" phone time to report a bug in Distiller - which, >of course, was not fixed); I even was so stupid to joint the dev ass to get the documentation which when available was also put on the web, and indeed, questions/bug reports are rewarded with 10K "okay, now you've lost one credit point" again ... mails >One consequence is that we have seen the same bugs repeated on a regular >basis, >more or less every time a new release of an application comes out --- just >when it comes to fonts for e.g.: >(i) treat strings as null delimited - causing problems with character code 0; >(ii) treat control characters (0--31) incorrectly; >(iii) do not deal correctly with repeated encoding (glyphname appears in more >than one place in encoding vector); >(iv) crash when the size of the Subr vector is smaller *or* larger than >required; >(v) crash when the size of the CharStrings array is smaller *or* larger >than required. >(vi) crash when there are no Subrs or no OtherSubrs; >etc. etc. I really wonder why they keep on changing font handling, which is pretty old ps based stuff anyway, isn't it? Somehow it's a pitty that it goes downwards that way. Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma@wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 25-May-2001 21:12:08-GMT,10374;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA28786 for ; Fri, 25 May 2001 15:12:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 6C63B2AE8C; Fri, 25 May 2001 23:13:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from doud01-linux (csgsystems.com [205.144.146.240]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4PLCNm32631 for ; Fri, 25 May 2001 23:12:23 +0200 Received: from localhost (IDENT:don@localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by doud01-linux (8.11.2/8.11.2) with SMTP id f4PLBNs03244 for ; Fri, 25 May 2001 16:11:23 -0500 From: Don Doumakes To: pdftex@tug.org Message-ID: <20010525161122.O912@doud01-linux.csgsystems.com> Reply-To: don_doumakes@csgsystems.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Balsa 1.1.1 Lines: 213 Subject: [pdftex] pdflatex bookmark problem Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 16:11:22 -0500 I've recently upgraded to RedHat 7.1. Since the transition, pdflatex has stopped producing bookmarks in my PDF files. Here's an example run from a system that hasn't yet been upgraded: This is pdfTeX, Version 3.14159-13d (Web2C 7.3.1) (testplan.tex[/usr/share/texmf/pdftex/config/pdftex.cfg] LaTeX2e <1998/12/01> patch level 1 Babel and hyphenation patterns for american, french, german, ngerman, i talian, nohyphenation, loaded. (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/article.cls Document Class: article 1999/01/07 v1.4a Standard LaTeX document class (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/size10.clo)) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/graphics/graphicx.sty (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/graphics/keyval.sty) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/graphics/graphics.sty (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/graphics/trig.sty) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/config/graphics.cfg) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/graphics/pdftex.def))) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/misc/url.sty) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/misc/moreverb.sty (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/tools/verbatim.sty)) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/misc/boxedminipage.sty) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/misc/fancybox.sty Style option: `fancybox' v1.2 <1998/02/27> (tvz) ) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/misc/ulem.sty) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/ae/ae.sty (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/fontenc.sty (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/t1enc.def) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/ae/t1aer.fd))) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/fontenc.sty (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/t1enc.def) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/t1enc.def)) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/inputenc.sty beta test version (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/latin1.def)) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/fancyhdr/fancyhdr.sty) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/psnfss/pifont.sty (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/psnfss/upzd.fd) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/psnfss/upsy.fd)) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/hyperref/hyperref.sty (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/hyperref/nameref.sty) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/hyperref/pd1enc.def) Implicit mode ON; LaTeX internals redefined (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/hyperref/backref.sty)) *hyperref using default driver pdftex* (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/hyperref/hpdftex.def) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/ifthen.sty) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/eepic/epic.sty Enhancements to Picture Environment. Version 1.2 - Released June 1, 1986 ) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/misc/ecltree.sty ECL Tree graph macro by isozaki, Nov. 12, 1990 ) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/tools/multicol.sty) No file testplan.aux. (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/supp-pdf.tex (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/supp-mis.tex loading : Context Support Macros / Missing ) loading : Context Support Macros / PDF ) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/graphics/color.sty (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/config/color.cfg)) Warning: pdflatex (file csglogo.png): can't handle alpha channel correctly, str ipped (please report bugs to pdftex@tug.org) LaTeX Warning: Reference `yer_diagram' on page 1 undefined on input line 64. LaTeX Warning: Reference `yer_diagram' on page 1 undefined on input line 66. (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/ae/t1aett.fd) [1[/usr/share/texmf/dvips/config/pdft ex.map] <./csglogo.png>] [2 <./pbi.png>] LaTeX Font Warning: Font shape `OMS/aer/m/n' undefined (Font) using `OMS/cmsy/m/n' instead (Font) for symbol `textbullet' on input line 110. [3] [4] [5] [6] (testplan.aux) LaTeX Font Warning: Some font shapes were not available, defaults substituted. LaTeX Warning: There were undefined references. LaTeX Warning: Label(s) may have changed. Rerun to get cross-references right. ) Output written on testplan.pdf (6 pages, 212723 bytes). Transcript written on testplan.log. The working directory now contains: -rw-rw-r-- 1 doud01 doud01 3326 May 25 15:38 csglogo.png -rw-rw-r-- 1 doud01 doud01 175718 May 25 15:38 pbi.png -rw-rw-r-- 1 doud01 doud01 4114 May 25 15:47 testplan.aux -rw-rw-r-- 1 doud01 doud01 12032 May 25 15:47 testplan.log -rw-rw-r-- 1 doud01 doud01 2121 May 25 15:47 testplan.out -rw-rw-r-- 1 doud01 doud01 212723 May 25 15:47 testplan.pdf -rw-rw-r-- 1 doud01 doud01 9406 May 25 15:38 testplan.tex Now, I run the same command against the same source code, this time on a RedHat 7.1 box: This is pdfTeX, Version 3.14159-13d (Web2C 7.3.1) (testplan.tex[/usr/share/texmf/pdftex/config/pdftex.cfg] LaTeX2e <1999/12/01> patch level 1 Babel and hyphenation patterns for american, french, german, ngerman, i talian, portuges, russian, spanish, nohyphenation, loaded. (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/article.cls Document Class: article 1999/09/10 v1.4a Standard LaTeX document class (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/size10.clo)) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/graphics/graphicx.sty (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/graphics/keyval.sty) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/graphics/graphics.sty (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/graphics/trig.sty) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/config/graphics.cfg) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/graphics/pdftex.def))) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/html/url.sty) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/misc/moreverb.sty (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/tools/verbatim.sty)) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/misc/boxedminipage.sty) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/misc/fancybox.sty Style option: `fancybox' v1.2 <1998/02/27> (tvz) ) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/misc/ulem.sty) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/ae/ae.sty (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/fontenc.sty (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/t1enc.def) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/ae/t1aer.fd))) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/fontenc.sty (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/t1enc.def)) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/inputenc.sty (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/latin1.def)) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/fancyhdr/fancyhdr.sty) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/psnfss/pifont.sty (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/psnfss/upzd.fd) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/psnfss/upsy.fd)) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/hyperref/hyperref.sty (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/hyperref/pd1enc.def) Implicit mode ON; LaTeX internals redefined (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/hyperref/backref.sty)) *hyperref using default driver hpdftex* (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/hyperref/hpdftex.def) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/ifthen.sty) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/eepic/epic.sty Enhancements to Picture Environment. Version 1.2 - Released June 1, 1986 ) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/misc/ecltree.sty ECL Tree graph macro by isozaki, Nov. 12, 1990 ) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/tools/multicol.sty) No file testplan.aux. (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/supp-pdf.tex (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/supp-mis.tex loading : Context Support Macros / Missing ) loading : Context Support Macros / PDF ) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/graphics/color.sty (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/config/color.cfg)) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/hyperref/nameref.sty) Warning: pdflatex (file csglogo.png): can't handle alpha channel correctly, str ipped (please report bugs to pdftex@tug.org) LaTeX Warning: Reference `yer_diagram' on page 1 undefined on input line 64. LaTeX Warning: Reference `yer_diagram' on page 1 undefined on input line 66. (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/ae/t1aett.fd) [1[/usr/share/texmf/dvips/config/pdft ex.map] <./csglogo.png>] [2 <./pbi.png>] (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/ae/omsaer.fd) [3] [4] [5] [6] (testplan.aux) LaTeX Warning: There were undefined references. LaTeX Warning: Label(s) may have changed. Rerun to get cross-references right. ) Output written on testplan.pdf (6 pages, 212723 bytes). Transcript written on testplan.log. This time, testplan.out is empty: -rw------- 1 don don 3326 May 24 13:29 csglogo.png -rw------- 1 don don 175718 May 24 16:59 pbi.png -rw------- 1 don don 4114 May 25 15:47 testplan.aux -rw------- 1 don don 11901 May 25 15:47 testplan.log -rw------- 1 don don 0 May 25 15:47 testplan.out -rw------- 1 don don 212723 May 25 15:47 testplan.pdf -rw------- 1 don don 9406 May 25 13:40 testplan.tex Surely I'm not the first to encounter this. Is there a fixed version available? If not, can anyone suggest an older version? _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 25-May-2001 22:17:08-GMT,2778;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA29874 for ; Fri, 25 May 2001 16:17:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 06A062AE98; Sat, 26 May 2001 00:18:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mailgateway2.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway2.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.212]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4PMHom00507 for ; Sat, 26 May 2001 00:17:50 +0200 Received: from remote142-167.home.uni-freiburg.de ([132.230.142.167]) by mailgateway2.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 153Psw-0004Xz-00; Sat, 26 May 2001 00:16:43 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.20010526001432.3e27247a@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) To: don_doumakes@csgsystems.com, pdftex@tug.org From: Heiko Oberdiek Subject: Re: [pdftex] pdflatex bookmark problem In-Reply-To: <20010525161122.O912@doud01-linux.csgsystems.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 00:14:32 +0200 At 16:11 25.05.2001 -0500, Don Doumakes wrote: >I've recently upgraded to RedHat 7.1. Since the transition, pdflatex has >stopped producing bookmarks in my PDF files. > >This is pdfTeX, Version 3.14159-13d (Web2C 7.3.1) Very very old, current is 14h. >Babel and hyphenation patterns for american, french, german, Very old, current is 3.7... >(/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/graphics/pdftex.def))) A current one is available at http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/pdftex.def >(/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/misc/fancybox.sty >Style option: `fancybox' v1.2 <1998/02/27> (tvz) Upgrade to v1.3 2000/09/19. The versions before contain bugs and can be the cause of your problems. >(/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/hyperref/hyperref.sty >(/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/ifthen.sty) It is better to load ifthen before hyperref to give hyperref a chance to detect the package. Yours sincerely Heiko _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 26-May-2001 12:01:08-GMT,2723;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA07351 for ; Sat, 26 May 2001 06:01:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 617612AE8C; Sat, 26 May 2001 14:02:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from blaubaer.kn-bremen.de (blaubaer.kn-bremen.de [195.37.179.254]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4QC16m03078 for ; Sat, 26 May 2001 14:01:06 +0200 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by blaubaer.kn-bremen.de (8.9.1/8.9.1) with UUCP id NAA26401 for pdftex@tug.org; Sat, 26 May 2001 13:59:42 +0200 Received: (from ms@localhost) by lucien.kn-bremen.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA08607 for pdftex@tug.org; Sat, 26 May 2001 12:31:13 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] Degree Celsius Message-ID: <20010526123112.A8381@lucien.kn-bremen.de> Mail-Followup-To: pdftex@tug.org References: <3ADF1A7F.11961.A6BE035@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3ADF1A7F.11961.A6BE035@localhost>; from spanke@isas-dortmund.de on Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 05:03:59PM +0100 Organization: ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Strasse 8, D-28359 Bremen X-Disclaimer: The views expressed are my own and not necessarily that of my employers. Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 12:31:13 +0200 On 2001-04-19 17:03:59 +0100, Jörg Spanke wrote: > > Use \usepackage{ae} and you will be on your way. > Thank you for the hint. I have downloaded the ae.zip for fptex, > installed it and it works! Is it possible to put this in the pdfTeX > manual or FAQ? It's already in there: http://www.dante.de/faq/de-tex-faq/ 10.2.4 Warum sind die Buchstaben in meiner pdf-Datei von schlechter Qualität? Best regards Martin -- http://www.tm.oneiros.de/calendar/2001/ _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 27-May-2001 8:30:09-GMT,4383;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA17821 for ; Sun, 27 May 2001 02:30:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 77D8A2AE8B; Sun, 27 May 2001 10:31:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from lorica.ucc.usyd.edu.au (lorica.ucc.usyd.edu.au [129.78.64.15]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4R8Uam12356 for ; Sun, 27 May 2001 10:30:36 +0200 Received: from mail.usyd.edu.au (p2488.net10.usyd.edu.au [10.0.9.184]) by lorica.ucc.usyd.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA20699; Sun, 27 May 2001 18:29:23 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <3B10BD1A.3308D77F@mail.usyd.edu.au> From: Robert Howlett X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Y&Y Support Cc: "pdftex@tug.org" Subject: Re: [pdftex] AR 5 not working with pdftex? References: <0F36CD681E3DD311B49E00805F3160BC01AF078B@crs27.crl.aecl.ca> <0F36CD681E3DD311B49E00805F3160BC01AF078B@crs27.crl.aecl.ca> <5.1.0.14.2.20010524071102.029a0250@pop.tiac.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 18:38:50 +1000 Y&Y Support wrote: > > It should be pointed out that these "problems" with Acrobat > are not universal, but a function of how the PDF is produced. > For example, we don't see any of these problems > with PDF from Y&Y TeX and Distiller 4.0 or Distiller 5.0. Since Distiller is an Adobe product, it is not surprising that the Adobe reader behaves correctly with the pdf Distiller produces. Surely Adobe would check that carefully before releasing the new version! But they will take no noticed of non-Adobe produced pdf, even if it meets with the Adobe-produced pdf specifications. Are you saying that that pdftex's pdf does not comply with those specifications? > > This could be a result of numerous work arounds for > "misfeatures" that went into the system to deal with > bugs in previous versions of Acrobat. > > http://www.yandy.com/download/mtpsample.pdf > http://www.yandy.com/download/mtpguide.pdf > http://www.yandy.com/download/mtpfoam.pdf > http://www.yandy.com/download/scenesem.pdf > Are these documents relevant to this discussion? I couldn't see any connection. > At 19:50 2001-05-24 +1000, you wrote: > >Quoting "Beuthe, Thomas" : > > > > > Embedding all of your fonts is something you should always > > > consider doing anyway, as the portability of the document > > > would not be guaranteed otherwise. This was an issue > > > with the default installation of 4.0 distiller. > > > By default it didn't embed the more common fonts, > > > and as a result, it caused problems across platforms > > > (Windows versus Mac) > > > >We certainly don't want to have to completely embed > >all fonts forever more -- really, embedding just the > >characters one uses ought to be enough. I wouldn't > >mind changing my <'s to <<'s as a temporary measure > >if I thought Adobe would fix the problem soon --- but > >I rather expect that it will take them the best part > >of a year. > > > >Bob Howlett > >------------------------------------------------- > >This mail sent through IMP: www-mail.usyd.edu.au > >_______________________________________________ > >pdftex mailing list > >pdftex@tug.org > >http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex > > -- > Y&Y, Inc. Support mailto:support@YandY.com http://www.YandY.com (MT) > > _______________________________________________ > pdftex mailing list > pdftex@tug.org > http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex Bob Howlett _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 27-May-2001 20:13:07-GMT,3560;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA22714 for ; Sun, 27 May 2001 14:13:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id C19B22AE82; Sun, 27 May 2001 22:14:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from dravite.mint.net (dravite.mint.net [216.227.128.32]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4RKDvm14637 for ; Sun, 27 May 2001 22:13:57 +0200 Received: from PINGA.YandY.com (northconway-ppp-69.landmarknet.net [63.75.118.74]) by dravite.mint.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA25686 for ; Sun, 27 May 2001 16:12:54 -0400 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20010527161145.00a7c020@pop.tiac.net> X-Sender: yandy@pop.tiac.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 To: "pdftex@tug.org" From: Y&Y Support In-Reply-To: <3B10BD1A.3308D77F@mail.usyd.edu.au> References: <0F36CD681E3DD311B49E00805F3160BC01AF078B@crs27.crl.aecl.ca> <0F36CD681E3DD311B49E00805F3160BC01AF078B@crs27.crl.aecl.ca> <5.1.0.14.2.20010524071102.029a0250@pop.tiac.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_33774044==_.ALT" Subject: [pdftex] Acrobat 5.0 Reader and "extra LaTeX + SliTeX" fonts Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 16:13:05 -0400 --=====================_33774044==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed There have been rumors that Acrobat 5.0 Reader has some problem with PDF files made using the "extra LaTeX and SliTeX" fonts in the AMS copyrighted (BSR/Y&Y/AMS et al) "CM" fonts at http://www.ams.org/index/tex/type1-fonts.html specifically the "line" and "circle" fonts. Being unable to reproduce any such problem, I wonder whether any one has a sample PDF file that demonstrates this problem, and an explanation of how it was produced? Regards, Louis. -- http://www.YandY.com/unique.htm --=====================_33774044==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
There have been rumors that Acrobat 5.0 Reader has some problem with PDF
files made using the "extra LaTeX and SliTeX" fonts in the AMS copyrighted
(BSR/Y&Y/AMS et al) "CM" fonts at
    http://www.ams.org/index/tex/type1-fonts.html
specifically the "line" and "circle" fonts.

Being unable to reproduce any such problem, I wonder whether any one
has a sample PDF file that demonstrates this problem, and an explanation
of how it was produced?

Regards, Louis.

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http://www.YandY.com/unique.htm --=====================_33774044==_.ALT-- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 28-May-2001 7:11:11-GMT,3261;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA28328 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 01:11:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 15AC22AE82; Mon, 28 May 2001 09:12:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp9.xs4all.nl (smtp9.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.135]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4S7BNm16930 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 09:11:24 +0200 Received: from server-1.pragma-ade.nl (s340-isdn2606.dial.xs4all.nl [194.109.190.46]) by smtp9.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA05770; Mon, 28 May 2001 09:10:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: from laptop-1 (laptop-1.pragma-ade.nl [200.1.1.25]) by server-1.pragma-ade.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA23501; Mon, 28 May 2001 09:04:44 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20010528001155.0128bc60@server-1> X-Sender: hagen@server-1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) To: Robert Howlett From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: [pdftex] AR 5 not working with pdftex? Cc: "pdftex@tug.org" In-Reply-To: <3B10BD1A.3308D77F@mail.usyd.edu.au> References: <0F36CD681E3DD311B49E00805F3160BC01AF078B@crs27.crl.aecl.ca> <0F36CD681E3DD311B49E00805F3160BC01AF078B@crs27.crl.aecl.ca> <5.1.0.14.2.20010524071102.029a0250@pop.tiac.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 00:11:55 +0200 At 06:38 PM 5/27/01 +1000, Robert Howlett wrote: >Since Distiller is an Adobe product, it is not surprising that >the Adobe reader behaves correctly with the pdf Distiller produces. >Surely Adobe would check that carefully before releasing the >new version! But they will take no noticed of non-Adobe produced >pdf, even if it meets with the Adobe-produced pdf specifications. i didn't test it with the new adobe products [since i don't even distiller 5 (yet)], but there were times that acrobat would export ps code that distiller could not handle. Also, the pdf code produced by the photoshop 4 that i have on this machine, is definitely kind of non portable, maybe pdf/x will solve these problems, Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma@wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 28-May-2001 15:43:08-GMT,2963;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA02436 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 09:43:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 483702AE82; Mon, 28 May 2001 17:44:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.riodata.de ([62.16.139.11]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4SFh5m19273 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 17:43:06 +0200 Received: from artinet.artcom-gmbh.de (62.16.147.178) by mail.riodata.de (5.5.031) id 3B125E0200000243 for pdftex@tug.org; Mon, 28 May 2001 17:41:05 +0200 Received: (from uartcom@localhost) by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id RAA14121 for tug.org!pdftex; Mon, 28 May 2001 17:42:04 +0200 (MEST) >Received: by artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de (Smail3.2 #1) id m154P9D-004wwRC; Mon, 28 May 2001 17:41:35 +0200 (MEST) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= To: pdftex@tug.org Message-ID: <20010528174135.A9462@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mail-Followup-To: pdftex@tug.org References: <20010502132310.0D74E454F@mail.cs.uu.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010502132310.0D74E454F@mail.cs.uu.nl>; from otfried@cs.uu.nl on Wed, May 02, 2001 at 03:23:10PM +0200 Organization: ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Strasse 8, D-28359 Bremen X-Disclaimer: The views expressed are my own and not necessarily that of my employers. Received: from artcom8 by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de; Mon, 28 May 2001 17:42 MES Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [pdftex] /Rotate page attribute (was: redundant objects with includegraphics) Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 17:41:35 +0200 On 2001-05-02 15:23:10 +0200, Otfried Cheong wrote: > Speaking about 'pdfpages', I suggest that while we are at it, we add a > primitive "\pdflastximagerotation" to return the value of the /Rotate > page attribute of an included PDF page. It would allow 'pdfpages' to > rotate them back the way they are supposed to look. I suggest instead strongly that pdfTeX honours the /Rotate page attribute and includes the page rotated as intended in the pdf. This bug just flew into our faces... :-{{ Best regards Martin _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 28-May-2001 17:11:07-GMT,3344;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA03399 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 11:11:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 81B842AE82; Mon, 28 May 2001 19:12:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp8.xs4all.nl (smtp8.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.134]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4SHBem19707 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 19:11:40 +0200 Received: from server-1.pragma-ade.nl (s340-modem4036.dial.xs4all.nl [194.109.175.196]) by smtp8.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA27801; Mon, 28 May 2001 19:10:39 +0200 (CEST) Received: from laptop-1 (laptop-1.pragma-ade.nl [200.1.1.25]) by server-1.pragma-ade.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA02166; Mon, 28 May 2001 18:50:58 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20010528184903.014f2b60@server-1> X-Sender: hagen@server-1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) To: Martin =?iso-8859-1?Q?Schr=F6der?= From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: [pdftex] /Rotate page attribute (was: redundant objects with includegraphics) Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: <20010528174135.A9462@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> References: <20010502132310.0D74E454F@mail.cs.uu.nl> <20010502132310.0D74E454F@mail.cs.uu.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.daimi.au.dk id f4SHBem19707 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 18:49:03 +0200 At 05:41 PM 5/28/01 +0200, Martin Schröder wrote: >On 2001-05-02 15:23:10 +0200, Otfried Cheong wrote: >> Speaking about 'pdfpages', I suggest that while we are at it, we add a >> primitive "\pdflastximagerotation" to return the value of the /Rotate >> page attribute of an included PDF page. It would allow 'pdfpages' to >> rotate them back the way they are supposed to look. > >I suggest instead strongly that pdfTeX honours the /Rotate page >attribute and includes the page rotated as intended in the pdf. indeed, as one can always analyze the dimensions of the xform >This bug just flew into our faces... :-{{ btw, what is the status of the font bug analysis? Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma@wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 28-May-2001 17:48:06-GMT,2570;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA03743 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 11:48:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 2C7942BA75; Mon, 28 May 2001 19:49:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from shining.home.chalvatzis.de (ffmdi5-212-144-212-201.arcor-ip.net [212.144.212.201]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4SHmBm19947 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 19:48:11 +0200 Received: from shining (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by shining.home.chalvatzis.de (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f4SHlAu01391 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 19:47:11 +0200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Michail Chalvatzis Reply-To: michail@chalvatzis.de To: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01052819471002.00651@shining> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.daimi.au.dk id f4SHmBm19947 Subject: [pdftex] dedicated pages Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 19:47:10 +0200 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, is there any possibility to produce a pdf-file with only dedicated pages. when I run pdflatex it produces the output with all pages included. The problem is that the file is growing and I only need some pages of the document as a pdf-file. any suggestions? thanks best regards michael - -- e-mail: mailbox@chalvatzis.de www: http://www.chalvatzis.de/ extract from Netscape's README: *And remember,it's spelled M-i-c-h-a-i-l,but it's pronounced "Michael"! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7Eo8ePq8H+SA6t60RAmenAJ9fC3ANqi3BMU739V41r6D7dxjLXACfexkL 6Qce/bYchudr/3YpuXCjmO4= =oeDa -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 28-May-2001 21:49:06-GMT,2535;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA05938 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 15:49:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 410212AE82; Mon, 28 May 2001 23:50:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mailgateway2.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway2.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.212]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4SLnvm21003 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 23:49:57 +0200 Received: from remote142-167.home.uni-freiburg.de ([132.230.142.167]) by mailgateway2.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 154Use-0003Dp-00; Mon, 28 May 2001 23:48:52 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.20010528230627.4457f246@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) To: michail@chalvatzis.de, pdftex@tug.org From: Heiko Oberdiek Subject: Re: [pdftex] dedicated pages In-Reply-To: <01052819471002.00651@shining> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 23:06:27 +0200 At 19:47 28.05.2001 +0200, Michail Chalvatzis wrote: >is there any possibility to produce a pdf-file with only dedicated pages. >when I run pdflatex it produces the output with all pages included. >The problem is that the file is growing and I only need some pages of the >document as a pdf-file. There are several possibilities, depending what you really want: * \include, \includeonly (provided by LaTeX) * package pagesel (available on CTAN) * with ConTeX you can extract some pages AFAIK. * a LaTeX solution is package pdfpages for extracting some pages (available on CTAN) * converting to PostScript, use of psutils (psselect, ...) and reconverting to PDF. * ... Yours sincerely Heiko _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 28-May-2001 21:21:07-GMT,2215;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA05690 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 15:21:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 345D22AE82; Mon, 28 May 2001 23:22:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from hal.kabsi.at (charme.kabsi.at [195.202.128.72]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4SLL2m20863 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 23:21:03 +0200 Received: from gobin (cm.med.3284842061.kabelnet.net [195.202.182.77]) by hal.kabsi.at (8.10.2/) with SMTP id f4SLJbd0001119818; Mon, 28 May 2001 23:19:37 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <001701c0e7bc$728412e0$4db6cac3@kabsi.at> From: "Andreas Matthias" To: , References: <01052819471002.00651@shining> Subject: Re: [pdftex] dedicated pages MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 23:23:31 +0200 From: "Michail Chalvatzis" > is there any possibility to produce a pdf-file with only dedicated pages. > when I run pdflatex it produces the output with all pages included. > The problem is that the file is growing and I only need some pages of the > document as a pdf-file. Take a look at `pagesel.sty'. Greetings, Andreas _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 29-May-2001 1:01:06-GMT,2229;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA07680 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 19:01:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 5B0C42AE82; Tue, 29 May 2001 03:02:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from wizard.ucc.ie (wizard.ucc.ie [143.239.211.92]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4T11Om21639 for ; Tue, 29 May 2001 03:01:25 +0200 Received: from cs.ucc.ie (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wizard.ucc.ie (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA20430 for ; Tue, 29 May 2001 02:00:36 +0100 Message-ID: <3B12F4B4.37FB47@cs.ucc.ie> From: Frank Boehme X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.10 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: [pdftex] TeXtrace! Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 02:00:36 +0100 Hi, There was just this *very* interesting announcement on freshmeat: http://freshmeat.net/projects/textrace/ I believe Péter Szabó, the author, will soon himself post to this list. He has written a tracer that converts TeXfonts into Type 1 fonts. He reports that it works for the EC fonts! Frank -- Dr Frank Boehme | Email: f.boehme@cs.ucc.ie National University of Ireland, Cork | phone: +353-21-4903163 Dept of Computer Science | fax: +353-21-4903113 Cork, Ireland | _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 29-May-2001 7:41:06-GMT,2630;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA12033 for ; Tue, 29 May 2001 01:41:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id D80D12AE82; Tue, 29 May 2001 09:42:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp1.xs4all.nl (smtp1.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.131]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4T7fnm23056 for ; Tue, 29 May 2001 09:41:49 +0200 Received: from server-1.pragma-ade.nl (s340-isdn2319.dial.xs4all.nl [194.109.189.15]) by smtp1.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA10707 for ; Tue, 29 May 2001 09:40:49 +0200 (CEST) Received: from laptop-1 (laptop-1.pragma-ade.nl [200.1.1.25]) by server-1.pragma-ade.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA04347 for ; Tue, 29 May 2001 09:12:32 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20010529090500.01beea90@server-1> X-Sender: hagen@server-1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) To: pdftex@tug.org From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: [pdftex] dedicated pages In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.16.20010528230627.4457f246@localhost> References: <01052819471002.00651@shining> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 09:05:00 +0200 At 11:06 PM 5/28/01 +0200, you wrote: >At 19:47 28.05.2001 +0200, Michail Chalvatzis wrote: >* with ConTeX you can extract some pages AFAIK. there's indeed a whole bunch of features in context for selecting, combining and manipulating pdf files Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma@wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 29-May-2001 8:05:07-GMT,2173;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA12239 for ; Tue, 29 May 2001 02:05:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 4A54B2AE8C; Tue, 29 May 2001 10:06:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from shining.home.chalvatzis.de ([145.253.163.27]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4T85am23224 for ; Tue, 29 May 2001 10:05:37 +0200 Received: from shining (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by shining.home.chalvatzis.de (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f4T84Xg00814 for ; Tue, 29 May 2001 10:04:33 +0200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Michail Chalvatzis Reply-To: michail@chalvatzis.de To: Subject: Re: [pdftex] dedicated pages X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] References: <01052819471002.00651@shining> <001701c0e7bc$728412e0$4db6cac3@kabsi.at> In-Reply-To: <001701c0e7bc$728412e0$4db6cac3@kabsi.at> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01052910043300.00797@shining> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.daimi.au.dk id f4T85am23224 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 10:04:33 +0200 Thanks for your help, I will have a lookt at the tools... Michael -- e-mail: mailbox@chalvatzis.de www: http://www.chalvatzis.de/ extract from Netscape's README: *And remember,it's spelled M-i-c-h-a-i-l,but it's pronounced "Michael"! _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 29-May-2001 12:03:07-GMT,1844;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA14244 for ; Tue, 29 May 2001 06:03:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 64E592AE82; Tue, 29 May 2001 14:04:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from wisbech.cl.cam.ac.uk (mta1.cl.cam.ac.uk [128.232.0.15]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4TC3Zm24183 for ; Tue, 29 May 2001 14:03:35 +0200 Received: from pallas.cl.cam.ac.uk ([128.232.8.88] helo=cl.cam.ac.uk ident=rf) by wisbech.cl.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.092 #1) id 154iCn-0006pM-00; Tue, 29 May 2001 13:02:33 +0100 To: michail@chalvatzis.de Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] dedicated pages In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 28 May 2001 19:47:10 +0200." <01052819471002.00651@shining> From: Robin Fairbairns Message-Id: Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 13:02:32 +0100 the uk faq covers this, of course. i bet the german one does too http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?label=conditional _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 30-May-2001 12:13:07-GMT,2424;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA02262 for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 06:13:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 7E5C82AE82; Wed, 30 May 2001 14:14:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (ns.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4UCDdm29911 for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 14:13:40 +0200 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA28767 for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 14:12:34 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA05970 for pdftex@tug.org; Wed, 30 May 2001 14:11:50 +0200 (MET DST) From: Han The Thanh To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] /Rotate page attribute (was: redundant objects with includegraphics) Message-ID: <20010530141150.A5721@anxur.fi.muni.cz> References: <20010502132310.0D74E454F@mail.cs.uu.nl> <20010528174135.A9462@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20010528174135.A9462@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de>; from ms@artcom-gmbh.de on Mon, May 28, 2001 at 05:41:35PM +0200 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 14:11:50 +0200 > I suggest instead strongly that pdfTeX honours the /Rotate page > attribute and includes the page rotated as intended in the pdf. > > This bug just flew into our faces... :-{{ yes I will do so by the end of this month. At the moment I have no time for it at all. Thanh _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 30-May-2001 12:34:17-GMT,3164;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA02459 for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 06:34:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id DF80D2AE93; Wed, 30 May 2001 14:35:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.riodata.de ([62.16.139.11]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4UCY6m30087 for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 14:34:06 +0200 Received: from artinet.artcom-gmbh.de (62.16.147.178) by mail.riodata.de (5.5.031) id 3B125E02000021D7 for pdftex@tug.org; Wed, 30 May 2001 14:32:00 +0200 Received: (from uartcom@localhost) by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id OAA29724 for tug.org!pdftex; Wed, 30 May 2001 14:33:04 +0200 (MEST) >Received: by artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de (Smail3.2 #1) id m15559E-004wwRC; Wed, 30 May 2001 14:32:24 +0200 (MEST) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] /Rotate page attribute (was: redundant objects with includegraphics) Message-ID: <20010530143223.C29226@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mail-Followup-To: pdftex@tug.org References: <20010502132310.0D74E454F@mail.cs.uu.nl> <20010528174135.A9462@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <20010530141150.A5721@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010530141150.A5721@anxur.fi.muni.cz>; from thanh@informatics.muni.cz on Wed, May 30, 2001 at 02:11:50PM +0200 Organization: ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Strasse 8, D-28359 Bremen X-Disclaimer: The views expressed are my own and not necessarily that of my employers. Received: from artcom8 by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de; Wed, 30 May 2001 14:33 MES Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 14:32:23 +0200 On 2001-05-30 14:11:50 +0200, Han The Thanh wrote: > > I suggest instead strongly that pdfTeX honours the /Rotate page > > attribute and includes the page rotated as intended in the pdf. > > > > This bug just flew into our faces... :-{{ > > yes I will do so by the end of this month. At the moment I have no time for > it at all. The end of _this_ month is tomorrow. That would be perfect. :-)) I'm working on it. The rotation is already right but now TeX has to know about it... Btw: I'm starting from the patch by Otfried Cheong. Best regards Martin -- http://www.tm.oneiros.de/calendar/2001/ _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 30-May-2001 15:28:06-GMT,2546;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA05104 for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 09:28:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 4C2432AE8B; Wed, 30 May 2001 17:29:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4UFSGm31115 for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 17:28:16 +0200 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA00684 for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 17:27:15 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA24005 for pdftex@tug.org; Wed, 30 May 2001 17:27:13 +0200 (MET DST) From: Han The Thanh To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] /Rotate page attribute (was: redundant objects with includegraphics) Message-ID: <20010530172713.A23770@anxur.fi.muni.cz> References: <20010502132310.0D74E454F@mail.cs.uu.nl> <20010528174135.A9462@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <20010530141150.A5721@anxur.fi.muni.cz> <20010530143223.C29226@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20010530143223.C29226@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de>; from ms@artcom-gmbh.de on Wed, May 30, 2001 at 02:32:23PM +0200 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 17:27:13 +0200 > The end of _this_ month is tomorrow. That would be perfect. :-)) uf, sorry. I meant the end of June. > I'm working on it. The rotation is already right but now TeX has > to know about it... > > Btw: I'm starting from the patch by Otfried Cheong. yes I will happily include it. Regards, Thanh _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 31-May-2001 13:13:12-GMT,2692;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA18524 for ; Thu, 31 May 2001 07:13:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 136552AE8F; Thu, 31 May 2001 15:14:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from clichy.dfki.uni-sb.de (clichy.dfki.uni-sb.de [134.96.187.26]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4VDD7m03956 for ; Thu, 31 May 2001 15:13:07 +0200 Received: from dfki.de (acc-207 [134.96.188.207]) by clichy.dfki.uni-sb.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA05670; Thu, 31 May 2001 15:12:01 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <3B164322.3BA08207@dfki.de> From: Berthold Crysmann Organization: DFKI GmbH X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.17 i686) X-Accept-Language: en, de, fr, pt MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Frank Boehme Cc: pdftex Subject: Font conversion [Was: [pdftex] TeXtrace!] References: <3B12F4B4.37FB47@cs.ucc.ie> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 15:12:02 +0200 Dear all, in order to avoid duplication of effort: I am currently converting several fonts from mf to pfb, using the aforementioned textrace. So far, I have converted the tipa (without xipa, as they have been converted already by Taco Hoekwater) and ecc fonts. As far as I have checked, the output is fine when using anti-aliasing. Without, char's are still ok, but a bit uneven on screen, due to the lack of hinting. Conversion of concmath is currently running. Next on my agenda are cmbright and concrete. Is anyone interested in the fonts in this state? If so, I would upload them to CTAN. Is there anyone with a decent font editor who would like to autohint the so far unhinted type1 fonts? Cheers, Berthold -- Berthold Crysmann Deutsches Forschungszentrum Kuenstliche Intelligenz (DFKI) GmbH Stuhlsatzenhausweg 3 D-66123 Saarbrücken _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 31-May-2001 13:39:06-GMT,4150;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA18744 for ; Thu, 31 May 2001 07:39:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 67E5F2BA73; Thu, 31 May 2001 15:40:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.riodata.de ([62.16.139.11]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4VDd6m04169 for ; Thu, 31 May 2001 15:39:07 +0200 Received: from artinet.artcom-gmbh.de (62.16.147.178) by mail.riodata.de (5.5.031) id 3B15136C00000F46 for pdftex@tug.org; Thu, 31 May 2001 15:36:57 +0200 Received: (from uartcom@localhost) by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id PAA11340 for tug.org!pdftex; Thu, 31 May 2001 15:38:04 +0200 (MEST) >Received: by artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de (Smail3.2 #1) id m155SdL-004wwRC; Thu, 31 May 2001 15:37:03 +0200 (MEST) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] /Rotate page attribute: patch available Message-ID: <20010531153702.Y29226@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mail-Followup-To: pdftex@tug.org References: <20010502132310.0D74E454F@mail.cs.uu.nl> <20010528174135.A9462@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <20010530141150.A5721@anxur.fi.muni.cz> <20010530143223.C29226@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <20010530172713.A23770@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010530172713.A23770@anxur.fi.muni.cz>; from thanh@informatics.muni.cz on Wed, May 30, 2001 at 05:27:13PM +0200 Organization: ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Strasse 8, D-28359 Bremen X-Disclaimer: The views expressed are my own and not necessarily that of my employers. Received: from artcom8 by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de; Thu, 31 May 2001 15:38 MES Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="/3yNEOqWowh/8j+e" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 15:37:03 +0200 --/3yNEOqWowh/8j+e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline As promised earlier, I've made a patch for pdftex 14h which lets it honour the /Rotate attribute of page objects. http://www.oneiros.de/tex/pdftex/pdftex-linux-014i-pretest-ArtCom-20010530.zip This contains the new source code with rcs files, binaries for Linux-i386 and a test case. I've attached the README below. Have fun Martin -- http://www.tm.oneiros.de/calendar/2001/ --/3yNEOqWowh/8j+e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="README.014i-pretest-ArtCom-20010530" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit This is a patched version of pdfTeX 0.14h-released-20010417 named 0.14i-pretest-ArtCom-20010530 compiled for Linux-i386 which contains the patch by Otfried Cheong (see http://tug.org/pipermail/pdftex/2001-May/008262.html). With this patch pdftex honours the /Rotate flag for included pages (see pdfspec v1.3 p. 78). The directory "test" contains a test case: test/rotate.014h.pdf is the output of unpatched pdftex test/rotate.pdf is the output of the patched pdftex Applying this patch fixes the problem. To apply the patch, replace the files "epdf.h" and "pdftoepdf.cc" in "src/texk/web2c/pdftexdir" of pdftex-14h by these patched versions, and compile normally. On Linux-i386 you can use the enclosed binaries. Please report bugs to Martin Schröder . --/3yNEOqWowh/8j+e-- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 31-May-2001 15:37:05-GMT,2416;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA20473 for ; Thu, 31 May 2001 09:37:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id B592F2BA81; Thu, 31 May 2001 17:38:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from clichy.dfki.uni-sb.de (clichy.dfki.uni-sb.de [134.96.187.26]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4VFbom04856 for ; Thu, 31 May 2001 17:37:50 +0200 Received: from dfki.de (acc-214 [134.96.188.214]) by clichy.dfki.uni-sb.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA10571; Thu, 31 May 2001 17:36:46 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <3B16650F.B18CA2A0@dfki.de> From: Berthold Crysmann Organization: DFKI GmbH X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.17 i686) X-Accept-Language: en, de, fr, pt MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex Subject: Re: Font conversion [Was: [pdftex] TeXtrace!] References: <3B12F4B4.37FB47@cs.ucc.ie> <3B164322.3BA08207@dfki.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 17:36:47 +0200 As I have received two messages now where someone mistakes me for the author of the conversion script, I would like to briefly state that this is not so. So the credit for textrace is due to Péter Szabó as well as to the author of autotrace, . As a mere user, I noticed the long run-time of the conversion (ecc took roughly 10 hours), and wanted to avoid duplication. Sorry for the confusion, it was not intentional. Berthold -- Berthold Crysmann Deutsches Forschungszentrum Kuenstliche Intelligenz (DFKI) GmbH Stuhlsatzenhausweg 3 D-66123 Saarbrücken _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 31-May-2001 22:06:04-GMT,3166;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA26529 for ; Thu, 31 May 2001 16:06:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 8EF532AE82; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 00:07:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from spike.rna.nl (wierda.demon.nl [212.238.60.175]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4VM6Bm06910 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 00:06:11 +0200 Received: from localhost (pbnfi [192.168.1.86]) by spike.rna.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id D33D2A852; Thu, 31 May 2001 23:55:18 +0200 (MET) From: Sherlock Holmes Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: [pdftex] TeXtrace! Cc: pdftex To: Frank Boehme X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.388) In-Reply-To: <3B12F4B4.37FB47@cs.ucc.ie> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v388) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20010531215520.D33D2A852@spike.rna.nl> Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 23:54:50 +0200 According to the README > 2e. What are TeXtrace's drawbacks and limitations? > """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" > -- the newest pdftex (3.14159-14f-released-20000525 (Web2C 7.3.1)) > cannot read the .pfb > files produced by TeXtrace. This is considered a serious limitation > and > will be fixed in a early July 2001. There is _no_ problem with older > pdftex's (including 3.14159-13d (Web2C 7.3.1)) and _any_ other font > utilities Is this still true for pdftex 14h? Also: according to freshmeat the version is 0.50. But the .tar.gz expands to textrace-0.42. Is there a 'real' 0.50 version? Thanks, SH On Tuesday, May 29, 2001, at 03:00 AM, Frank Boehme wrote: > Hi, > > There was just this *very* interesting announcement on freshmeat: > > http://freshmeat.net/projects/textrace/ > > I believe Pter Szab, the author, will soon himself post to this list. > He has written a tracer that converts TeXfonts into Type 1 fonts. He > reports that it works for the EC fonts! > > > > Frank > > > -- > Dr Frank Boehme | Email: f.boehme@cs.ucc.ie > National University of Ireland, Cork | phone: +353-21-4903163 > Dept of Computer Science | fax: +353-21-4903113 > Cork, Ireland | > _______________________________________________ > pdftex mailing list > pdftex@tug.org > http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex > _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 1-Jun-2001 3:20:04-GMT,2229;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA29578 for ; Thu, 31 May 2001 21:20:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: by tug.org (Postfix, from userid 504) id 94F3A2BA89; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 05:21:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from quasimodo.uol.com.br (quasimodo.uol.com.br [200.231.206.27]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f513K1m08329; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 05:20:02 +0200 Received: from bgenetouol (bsa-1-as02-7-a45.gd.uol.com.br [200.197.118.109] (may be forged)) by quasimodo.uol.com.br (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id AAA24522; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 00:17:39 -0300 (BRT) From: "Bernhard Enders" To: Cc: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Subject: [pdftex] OT1 encoding and pdf fonts Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 00:20:21 -0300 When I make pdf documents from a latex source that uses OT1 encoding I get bitmapped fonts. I´m using PDFLaTeX and it works fine with T1 encoding. What is the problem here? How can I get the correct fonts to install or something like this? Thanks a lot... Bernhard Enders Institute of Physics University of Brasilia Brasília - DF - Brazil _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex