17-Jan-2000 11:06:32-GMT,2082;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA11342 for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 04:06:31 -0700 (MST) Received: from postfix2.free.fr (postfix@postfix2.free.fr [212.27.32.74]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA24296 for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 06:06:30 -0500 Received: from 212.27.63.78 (lille1-63-78.dial.proxad.net [212.27.63.78]) by postfix2.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 574F87409E for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 12:06:28 +0100 (MET) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 12:06:22 +0100 From: Yannis Haralambous Subject: AFM files for Monotype fonts To: TeX Fonts List X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; Charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mailsmith 1.1.4 (Bluto) Message-Id: <20000117110628.574F87409E@postfix2.free.fr> Does anyone know where I can find AFM files for Monotype fonts not distributed by Adobe? [In fact, I need the AFM files of the Ehrhardt Expert package.] Thanks in advance Yannis +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Yannis Haralambous, Ph.D. yannis@fluxus-virus.com | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | 187, rue Nationale fax : +33 (0)3.20.40.28.64 | | 59800 Lille, France tél. : +33 (0)6.07.98.16.26 | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Visit the trilingual Atelier Fluxus Virus Web site: | | http://www.fluxus-virus.com | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ ...pour distinguer l'extérieur d'un aquarium, mieux vaut n'être pas poisson ...the ball I threw while playing in the park has never reached the ground 17-Jan-2000 17:11:14-GMT,2351;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA18345 for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 10:11:14 -0700 (MST) Received: from csc-sun.math.utah.edu (root@csc-sun.math.utah.edu [128.110.198.2]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA25940 for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 12:11:12 -0500 Received: from suncore.math.utah.edu (suncore0.math.utah.edu [128.110.198.5]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA18338; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 10:11:07 -0700 (MST) Received: (from beebe@localhost) by suncore.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA13343; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 10:11:08 -0700 (MST) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 10:11:08 -0700 (MST) From: "Nelson H. F. Beebe" To: Yannis Haralambous , TeX Fonts List Cc: beebe@csc-sun.math.utah.edu X-US-Mail: "Center for Scientific Computing, Department of Mathematics, 322 INSCC, University of Utah, 155 S 1400 E RM 233, Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA" X-Telephone: +1 801 581 5254 X-FAX: +1 801 585 1640, +1 801 581 4148 X-URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe Subject: Re: Ehrhardt Expert AFM files Message-ID: Yannis Haralambous writing on Mon, 17 Jan 2000 12:06:22 +0100 asks >> Does anyone know where I can find AFM files for Monotype fonts not >> distributed by Adobe? >> >> [In fact, I need the AFM files of the Ehrhardt Expert package.] I have a two-CD set of Monotype fonts, and I've extracted the AFM files for the Ehrhardt fonts and sent them privately to Yannis. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Nelson H. F. 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To: teTeX mailing list , TeX Fonts List Subject: dvips(k) state and maintainer Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 18:21:40 +0100 Sender: tinne@noether.cs.uni-dortmund.de Who is the one who currently maintains dvips? I have some trouble with partially encoded fonts with non-standard encoding and late postscript interpreters in recent hp printers. unfortunately, I have no idea who is the current maintainer. ctan has dvips versions up to 5.67, dvipsk to 5.78a, and http://www.radicaleye.com/dvipsalpha.html talks of 5.83 as being current. However, tetex 1.0.6 comes with 5.86. Below the description of the problem: I have written a short test text which uses a few characters of an expert font. When running dvips on the resulting dvi file with partial font encoding on, it shortens the definition of the Encoding vector to /Encoding 256 array dup 58 /ff put dup 63 /ffi put dup 64 /ffl put readonly def . Our postscript printers hp 2000n and clj 4050 complain and do not print: "Error: typecheck; OffendingCommand: definefont". They are right, since the postscript specs say "All unused posistions must be filled with the name .notdef" When inserting the following line after "... array", the error vanishs: 0 1 255 {1 index exch /.notdef put} for Ideas or references? Thank you, greetings, -- Karsten Tinnefeld tinnefeld@ls2.cs.uni-dortmund.de Fachbereich Informatik, Lehrstuhl 2 T +49 231 755-4737 Universität Dortmund, D-44221 Dortmund, Deutschland F +49 231 755-2047 20-Jan-2000 17:48:23-GMT,3268;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA29072 for ; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 10:48:22 -0700 (MST) Received: from sun06.ams.org (sun06.ams.org [130.44.1.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA09737; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 12:48:09 -0500 Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON by sun06.ams.org (PMDF V5.1-10 #27147) id <0FON00H01AS7B2@sun06.ams.org>; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 12:48:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from sun06.ams.org by sun06.ams.org (PMDF V5.1-10 #27147) with ESMTP id <0FON00EM2AS7SZ@sun06.ams.org>; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 12:48:07 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 12:48:06 -0500 (EST) From: Tom Kacvinsky Subject: Re: dvips(k) state and maintainer In-reply-to: <200001201721.SAA05712@goedel.cs.uni-dortmund.de> To: Karsten Tinnefeld Cc: teTeX mailing list , TeX Fonts List , tex-k Mailing List Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN Hi Karsten, I am CC'ing this to the tex-k mailing list. To answer your question, Tom Rokicki is the official maintainer of dvips(k). To answer your question about the encoding problem: Does the original Type 1 font you are subsetting (you wrote partially encoded but I think you really meant subsetted) have the following lines in it? /Encoding 255 array 0 1 255 {1 index exch /.notdef put} If it doesn't, it probably is a Fontographer generated font, which means that the encoding in the original font looks like this: /Encoding 255 array 256 assignments, including the necessary /.notdefs needed to fill out the 256 slots You can solve your problems either by (a) fixing the original font or (b) getting the latest snapshot of tetex, which uses Han The Thanh's writet1 module to handle font subsetting (instead of t1part). Tom def (or readonly def) On Thu, 20 Jan 2000, Karsten Tinnefeld wrote: > Who is the one who currently maintains dvips? I have some trouble with > partially encoded fonts with non-standard encoding and late postscript > interpreters in recent hp printers. > > unfortunately, I have no idea who is the current maintainer. ctan has > dvips versions up to 5.67, dvipsk to 5.78a, and > http://www.radicaleye.com/dvipsalpha.html talks of 5.83 as being > current. However, tetex 1.0.6 comes with 5.86. > > Below the description of the problem: > I have written a short test text which uses a few characters of an > expert font. When running dvips on the resulting dvi file with partial > font encoding on, it shortens the definition of the Encoding vector to > > /Encoding 256 array > dup 58 /ff put > dup 63 /ffi put > dup 64 /ffl put > readonly def > > . Our postscript printers hp 2000n and clj 4050 complain and do not > print: "Error: typecheck; OffendingCommand: definefont". They are > right, since the postscript specs say "All unused posistions must > be filled with the name .notdef" > > When inserting the following line after "... array", the error vanishs: > 0 1 255 {1 index exch /.notdef put} for > > Ideas or references? Thank you, greetings, > 20-Jan-2000 17:53:19-GMT,1299;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA29261 for ; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 10:53:13 -0700 (MST) Received: from sun06.ams.org (sun06.ams.org [130.44.1.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA09770; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 12:52:57 -0500 Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON by sun06.ams.org (PMDF V5.1-10 #27147) id <0FON00H01B03NC@sun06.ams.org>; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 12:52:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from sun06.ams.org by sun06.ams.org (PMDF V5.1-10 #27147) with ESMTP id <0FON00ERFB03SZ@sun06.ams.org>; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 12:52:51 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 12:52:51 -0500 (EST) From: Tom Kacvinsky Subject: Re: dvips(k) state and maintainer In-reply-to: To: Karsten Tinnefeld Cc: teTeX mailing list , TeX Fonts List , tex-k Mailing List Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN That should be /Encoding 256 array Sorry about the mix up... Tom > > /Encoding 255 array > 0 1 255 {1 index exch /.notdef put} > 20-Jan-2000 19:47:13-GMT,1083;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA02741 for ; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 12:47:07 -0700 (MST) Received: from Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Xenon.Stanford.EDU [171.64.66.201]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA10415; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 14:47:00 -0500 Received: (from rokicki@localhost) by Xenon.Stanford.EDU (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA10666; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 11:46:30 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 11:46:30 -0800 (PST) From: "Tomas G. Rokicki" Message-Id: <200001201946.LAA10666@Xenon.Stanford.EDU> To: tinnefeld@noether.cs.uni-dortmund.de, tjk@ams.org Cc: tetex@informatik.uni-hannover.de, tex-fonts@tug.org, tex-k@tug.org Subject: Re: dvips(k) state and maintainer Howdy! Yep, I do dvips. Can you send me the font? (And any other files.) I'll take a look. Tom, does the latest snapshot of tetex actually use the writet1 module to handle font subsetting in dvips? I wasn't aware that had happened yet . . . -tom 24-Jan-2000 7:26:42-GMT,979;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA18087 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 00:26:41 -0700 (MST) Received: from Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Xenon.Stanford.EDU [171.64.66.201]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA23893; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 02:26:39 -0500 Received: (from rokicki@localhost) by Xenon.Stanford.EDU (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA19580; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 23:26:23 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 23:26:23 -0800 (PST) From: "Tomas G. Rokicki" Message-Id: <200001240726.XAA19580@Xenon.Stanford.EDU> To: tinnefeld@noether.cs.uni-dortmund.de, tjk@ams.org Cc: tetex@informatik.uni-hannover.de, tex-fonts@tug.org, tex-k@tug.org Subject: Re: dvips(k) state and maintainer Just so you know: the dvips in the pretest works *great* on the files that Karsten sent out. That new writet1 looks good! Who did the work? -tom 24-Jan-2000 16:12:00-GMT,1396;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA28884 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 09:11:43 -0700 (MST) Received: from sun06.ams.org (sun06.ams.org [130.44.1.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA25313; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 11:11:41 -0500 Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON by sun06.ams.org (PMDF V5.1-10 #27147) id <0FOU00901KZC1J@sun06.ams.org>; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 11:11:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from sun06.ams.org by sun06.ams.org (PMDF V5.1-10 #27147) with ESMTP id <0FOU005RSKZCUH@sun06.ams.org>; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 11:11:36 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 11:11:36 -0500 (EST) From: Tom Kacvinsky Subject: Re: dvips(k) state and maintainer In-reply-to: <200001240726.XAA19580@Xenon.Stanford.EDU> To: "Tomas G. Rokicki" Cc: tinnefeld@noether.cs.uni-dortmund.de, tetex@informatik.uni-hannover.de, tex-fonts@tug.org, tex-k@tug.org Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN Han The Thanh (of pdftex fame) did the work on this module. Tom On Sun, 23 Jan 2000, Tomas G. Rokicki wrote: > Just so you know: > > the dvips in the pretest works *great* on the files that Karsten sent out. > That new writet1 looks good! Who did the work? > > -tom > 27-Feb-2000 15:48:39-GMT,10893;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA01735 for ; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 08:48:38 -0700 (MST) Received: from regulus.informatik.uni-hannover.de (te@regulus.informatik.uni-hannover.de [130.75.26.7]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA14091 for ; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 10:48:37 -0500 Received: (from te@localhost) by regulus.informatik.uni-hannover.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA29396; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 16:48:25 +0100 (MET) Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 16:48:25 +0100 (MET) From: Thomas Esser Message-Id: <200002271548.QAA29396@regulus.informatik.uni-hannover.de> To: tex-fonts@tug.org Cc: jfm@core.ucl.ac.be Subject: (fwd) bugs in .enc files MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------0B9651A05DDFA648A6482155" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------0B9651A05DDFA648A6482155 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jean-Fran=E7ois Mertens wrote: > I don't use teTeX, working currently on a Mac but it seems > clear to me that the .enc files I get with CMacTeX (as well as > most files in most distributions...) come from the teTeX distribution. > Making a search on CTAN led me to /fonts/utilities/vplutils, but > that directory contains no address whatsoever for bug reports, so > you may be the person best placed to get this corrected at the source. > > I recently went to ftp://sirius.ihep.su//pub/users/malyshev to download= > a couple of fonts (having bugs with my BaKoMa-extra fonts (eg msam6), I= > wanted to be sure to have the latest versions before sending a bug repo= rt > _ and those ARE correct). 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[130.239.20.144] (mac144.math.umu.se [130.239.20.144]) by abel.math.umu.se (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id UAA01836 for ; Sun, 19 Mar 2000 20:36:51 +0100 (CET) X-Sender: lars@abel.math.umu.se Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 19:40:58 +0100 To: TeX-fonts list From: Lars =?iso-8859-1?Q?Hellstr=F6m?= Subject: modes.mf and HP Laserjet 4050 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by csc-sun.math.utah.edu id LAA12918 In my work, we recently (earlier today) installed a HP Laserjet 4050, and naturally I looked in modes.mf to see if there was a mode for it. There is a mode for an HP Laserjet 4000, which I assume will work fine (should you happen to know otherwise, then please tell me of course). Anyway, as I noticed that the modes.mf that came with my TeX installation was dated % version = "3.3", % date = "Fri Jan 16 16:17:03 EST 1998" i.e., over two years ago, I had a look at CTAN to see if there was a newer version. Somewhat to my surprise, the only modes.mf that I found (fonts/amsfonts/sources/modes.mf) was dated % version = "3.2", % date = "Thu Nov 7 15:51:45 EST 1996" Thus if the home for modes.mf is not on CTAN, then where is it? (The BibTeX header doesn't give an URL.) Lars Hellström 20-Mar-2000 18:46:56-GMT,2093;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from suncore.math.utah.edu (suncore0.math.utah.edu [128.110.198.5]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA13201; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 11:46:56 -0700 (MST) Received: (from beebe@localhost) by suncore.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA13853; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 11:46:55 -0700 (MST) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 11:46:55 -0700 (MST) From: "Nelson H. F. Beebe" To: Lars =?iso-8859-1?Q?Hellstr=F6m?= Cc: beebe@csc-sun.math.utah.edu, TeX-fonts list X-US-Mail: "Center for Scientific Computing, Department of Mathematics, 322 INSCC, University of Utah, 155 S 1400 E RM 233, Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA" X-Telephone: +1 801 581 5254 X-FAX: +1 801 585 1640, +1 801 581 4148 X-URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe Subject: Re: modes.mf and HP Laserjet 4050 In-Reply-To: Your message of Mon, 20 Mar 2000 19:40:58 +0100 Message-ID: >> Thus if the home for modes.mf is not on CTAN, then where is it? I have an even later version: 3.4. Its header says: % Compiled 1991, 92, 93, 94, 95, 96, 97, 98 by K. Berry. This file is % not copyrighted and may be used freely. You can retrieve the latest % version from {\tt ftp://ftp.tug.org/tex/modes.mf}. This version is on the TeXLive 5 distribution that is nearing completion. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Nelson H. F. Beebe Tel: +1 801 581 5254 - - Center for Scientific Computing FAX: +1 801 585 1640, +1 801 581 4148 - - University of Utah Internet e-mail: beebe@math.utah.edu - - Department of Mathematics, 322 INSCC beebe@acm.org beebe@computer.org - - 155 S 1400 E RM 233 beebe@ieee.org - - Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 20-Mar-2000 19:13:31-GMT,1503;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from abel.math.umu.se (abel.math.umu.se [130.239.20.139]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA14198; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 12:13:29 -0700 (MST) Received: from [130.239.20.144] (mac144.math.umu.se [130.239.20.144]) by abel.math.umu.se (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id VAA02070; Sun, 19 Mar 2000 21:09:20 +0100 (CET) X-Sender: lars@abel.math.umu.se Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Your message of Mon, 20 Mar 2000 19:40:58 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 20:13:28 +0100 To: "Nelson H. F. Beebe" From: Lars =?iso-8859-1?Q?Hellstr=F6m?= Subject: Re: modes.mf and HP Laserjet 4050 Cc: TeX-fonts list Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by csc-sun.math.utah.edu id MAA14201 At 19.46 +0100 2000-03-20, Nelson H. F. Beebe wrote: >>> Thus if the home for modes.mf is not on CTAN, then where is it? > >I have an even later version: 3.4. Its header says: > >% Compiled 1991, 92, 93, 94, 95, 96, 97, 98 by K. Berry. This file is >% not copyrighted and may be used freely. You can retrieve the latest >% version from {\tt ftp://ftp.tug.org/tex/modes.mf}. Yes, _now_ I notice that the v3.3 version says that too. Silly of me. Lars Hellström 21-Mar-2000 21:07:27-GMT,891;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from freefriends.org ([63.85.55.109]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA23632 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 14:07:25 -0700 (MST) Received: (from karl@localhost) by freefriends.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA29994; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 16:06:30 -0500 Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 16:06:30 -0500 From: Karl Berry Message-Id: <200003212106.QAA29994@freefriends.org> To: Lars.Hellstrom@math.umu.se Cc: tex-fonts@csc-sun.math.utah.edu Subject: Re: modes.mf and HP Laserjet 4050 (fonts/amsfonts/sources/modes.mf) was dated The canonical location would be fonts/modes/modes.mf. I see that's at version 3.3, though, not 3.4. Sigh. I'll try to straighten that out. amsfonts is nothing I have control over or input into. The actual original location for modes.mf is ftp://tug.org/tex/modes.mf. 30-Mar-2000 18:59:49-GMT,1570;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from mail.arcor-ip.de (mail-ffm-p.arcor-ip.de [145.253.2.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA25199 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 11:59:43 -0700 (MST) Received: from nbgdi6-212-144-156-097.arcor-ip.net (212.144.156.97) by mail.arcor-ip.de; 30 Mar 2000 20:59:12 +0200 Message-ID: <38e3a4013902f730@mail.arcor-ip.de> (added by mail.arcor-ip.de) From: "Walter Schmidt" To: "tex-fonts" Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 20:58:11 +0100 (MEZ) Reply-To: "Walter Schmidt" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail/2 PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Lucidux fonts Hi, I have just tried to install (for use with TeX) the Lucidux fonts distributed with XFree86 4.0. I am astonished to see that these fonts are apparently lacking many common glyphs; e.g., as to Lucidux Sans: `guilsinglleft' `guilsinglright' `quotedblleft' `quotedblright' `quotedblbase' `endash' `emdash' and more. At least, these glyphs are not listed in the afm file. What is wrong here? Do I misunderstand what these fonts are made for? Are my afm's corrupt? -- TIA Walter -- Walter Schmidt Schornbaumstrasse 2, 91052 Erlangen, Germany pgp key (0xB3F3ACED, 1024 bit, DSS): see key fingerprint: CEE3 0783 8468 4B7F 1054 1543 83AD 20A5 B3F3 ACED 2-Apr-2000 0:37:48-GMT,2118;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA07712 for ; Sat, 1 Apr 2000 17:37:47 -0700 (MST) Received: from freefriends.org (freefriends.org [63.85.55.109]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA22859 for ; Sat, 1 Apr 2000 19:37:46 -0500 Received: (from karl@localhost) by freefriends.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA21730; Sat, 1 Apr 2000 20:35:27 -0500 Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 20:35:27 -0500 From: Karl Berry Message-Id: <200004020135.UAA21730@freefriends.org> To: info-gnu@gnu.org, tex-fonts@tug.org, bug-gnu-utils@gnu.org Subject: fontutils 0.7 available I have released a new version (0.7) of the GNU font utilities. It's available from: ftp://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/fontutils/fontutils-0.7.tar.gz and all GNU mirrors around the world (see http://www.gnu.org/software/software.html#HowToGetSoftware) This release updates the library license to the Lesser GPL version 2.1 (see http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/lesser.html). (The LGPL applies only to a few files in the distribution taken from the GNU C library; the rest of distribution is covered by the regular gpl.) It also makes some configuration and compilation updates. To compile these programs, you will need GCC and GNU Make. For the programs which do online graphics, you will also need an X11 server and the X11R4 or R5 libraries. The main purpose of these programs is to form a tool chain to generate Metafont or PostScript fonts from scanned images. I have numerous (public domain) scanned images of type specimens if anyone would actually like to try this (it's nontrivial and the fontutils don't currently support everything needed; for example, there is no provision for hints). Send bugs or suggestions to bug-gnu-utils@gnu.org. However, the fontutils are currently looking for a maintainer; I haven't been able to act on the many bug reports and good suggestions that have already been made. If you have time and interest, please email me. Thanks, karl@gnu.org 3-Apr-2000 17:13:07-GMT,3067;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from life.ai.mit.edu (life.ai.mit.edu [128.52.32.80]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA27284 for ; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 11:13:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from MAURITIUS.ai.mit.edu (maui [128.52.37.105]) by life.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/AI2.13/ai.master.life:2.18) with ESMTP id NAA21153 for ; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 13:13:04 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.3.0.20000403130921.01dcf6d8@mail.ai.mit.edu> X-Sender: bkph@mail.ai.mit.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3 Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 13:14:30 -0400 To: "tex-fonts" From: "Berthold K.P. Horn" Subject: Re: Lucidux fonts In-Reply-To: <38e3a4013902f730@mail.arcor-ip.de> (added by mail.arcor-ip.de) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" At 08:58 PM 3/30/2000 +0100, Walter Schmidt wrote:

> I have just tried to install (for use with TeX) the Lucidux fonts
> distributed with XFree86 4.0. I am astonished to see that these
> fonts are apparently lacking many common glyphs; e.g., as to
> Lucidux Sans:

> `guilsinglleft'
> `guilsinglright'
> `quotedblleft'
> `quotedblright'
> `quotedblbase'
> `endash'
> `emdash'

> and more. At least, these glyphs are not listed in the afm file.
> What is wrong here?  Do I misunderstand what these fonts are made for?
> Are my afm's corrupt?

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No. These fonts were made to cover all of the ISO Latin character
sets for Western Europe, as stated in the material that comes with
the fonts.  In particular, they cover ISO Latin 1, the character set
widely used on Unix.  They also cover the corresponding "pages"
(256 glyph blocks) of UNICODE.  This is in agreement with XFree86.

The particular glyphs you mention are not in these ISO Latin 8859
character sets.   As a result, these fonts do not cover all of the
Windows and  Macintosh character sets.

We may at a future date make versions of these fonts that include
extra glyphs.  These would be made available through Y&Y, Inc.

Regards, Berthold Horn

--
Berthold K.P. Horn mailto:bkph@ai.mit.edu http://www.ai.mit.edu/people/bkph (LT)



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19-Apr-2000 11:16:40-GMT,38527;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from solen.ce.chalmers.se (solen.ce.chalmers.se [129.16.20.244]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA03905 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 05:16:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from rasputin.ce.chalmers.se (rasputin.ce.chalmers.se [129.16.20.199]) by solen.ce.chalmers.se (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA02490; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 13:16:18 +0200 (MET DST) From: Florian-Daniel Otel Received: (from otel@localhost) by rasputin.ce.chalmers.se (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA17105; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 13:16:18 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 13:16:17 +0200 (MET DST) To: Ulrik Vieth , Sebastian Rahtz , tex-fonts@csc-sun.math.utah.edu Cc: otel@ce.chalmers.se Subject: Fontinst / afm2tfm question X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <14589.35650.427119.650450@rasputin.ce.chalmers.se> Reply-To: otel@ce.chalmers.se Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Multipart_Wed_Apr_19_13:16:17_2000-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --Multipart_Wed_Apr_19_13:16:17_2000-1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Hello there [First, please excuse if you get multiple versions of this mail, but i'm getting a little desperate. Second "newbie mode on" please :-)] For some time now i read about using PS fonts in LaTeX. So, i converted the fonts coming w/ CorelDraw (copyrighted version) to the KarlBerry naming scheme based on bitstream.map file (e.g. from CTAN). I tried to use fontinst (both on Linux and Solaris AFAICT the fontinst version is 1.801 ) to convert the .afm to the necessary .fd , .tfm and .vf files. All what fontinst does is create 4 .fd files (for 8r, OT1, T1 and TS1 enconding) that only contain \ProvidesFile{} and a \DeclareFontFamily{}{}{} . Nothing more. No other files, whatsoever. (Please see the detailed description at the end of this mail). Failing to use fontinst that i made a simple script to .afm -> (afm2tmf -T 8r.enc -v ) -> .vpl and `raw` .tfm (?!?!) -> (vptovf ) -> -> .vf and .tfm Problem is though that i dont have the .fd files. And creating them by hand (asumming i figure out how) for ~700 fonts is ...well.."challenging". So, my questions: 1) How can i fix fontinst/what is the problem 2) How can i create corresponding .fd files without fontinst. With many thanks, and sorry for the very long P.S. Florian (please reply directly to me, i'm not on the list) P.S.: Detailed description of using fontinst 1) Renamed the fonts from Corel to KB naming scheme based on bitstream.map 2) Trying to convert the following family: ...... baob8r Incised901BT-Bold baob8rc Incised901BT-BoldCondensed baoc8r Incised901BT-Black baoh8rx Incised901BT-Nord baohi8rx Incised901BT-NordItalic baol8r Incised901BT-Light baop8r Incised901BT-Compact baor8r Incised901BT-Roman baori8r Incised901BT-Italic ...... 3) I put the .afm and .pfb in a directory: shell-prompt> ls bao* baob8r.afm baob8rc.pfb baoh8rx.afm baohi8rx.pfb baop8r.afm baor8r.pfb baob8r.pfb baoc8r.afm baoh8rx.pfb baol8r.afm baop8r.pfb baori8r.afm baob8rc.afm baoc8r.pfb baohi8rx.afm baol8r.pfb baor8r.afm baori8r.pfb 4) In this directory i run shell-prompt> latex `kpsewhich fontinst.sty` This is TeX, Version 3.14159 (Web2C 7.3.1) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/fontinst/base/fontinst.sty LaTeX2e <1998/12/01> patch level 1 Babel and hyphenation patterns for american, french, german, ngerman, i talian, nohyphenation, loaded. LaTeX Warning: You have requested package `', but the package provides `fontinst'. (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/graphics/trig.sty LaTeX Warning: You have requested package `', but the package provides `trig'. ) No file fontinst.rc. ) *\latinfamily{bao}{} \bye INFO> parse family <> INFO> to make LaTeX font shape seek baor8r.mtx INFO> to make LaTeX font shape seek baorc8r.mtx INFO> to make LaTeX font shape seek baoro8r.mtx INFO> to make LaTeX font shape seek baori8r.mtx INFO> to make LaTeX font shape seek baor8rn.mtx INFO> to make LaTeX font shape seek baorc8rn.mtx INFO> to make LaTeX font shape seek baoro8rn.mtx INFO> to make LaTeX font shape seek baori8rn.mtx INFO> to make LaTeX font shape seek baok8r.mtx INFO> to make LaTeX font shape seek baokc8r.mtx INFO> to make LaTeX font shape seek baoko8r.mtx INFO> to make LaTeX font shape seek baoki8r.mtx INFO> to make LaTeX font shape seek baok8rn.mtx INFO> to make LaTeX font shape seek baokc8rn.mtx INFO> to make LaTeX font shape seek baoko8rn.mtx INFO> to make LaTeX font shape seek baoki8rn.mtx INFO> to make LaTeX font shape seek baob8r.mtx INFO> to make LaTeX font shape seek baobc8r.mtx INFO> to make LaTeX font shape seek baobo8r.mtx INFO> to make LaTeX font shape seek baobi8r.mtx INFO> to make LaTeX font shape seek baob8rn.mtx INFO> to make LaTeX font shape seek baobc8rn.mtx INFO> to make LaTeX font shape seek baobo8rn.mtx INFO> to make LaTeX font shape seek baobi8rn.mtx INFO> to make LaTeX font shape seek baos8r.mtx INFO> to make LaTeX font shape seek baosc8r.mtx INFO> to make LaTeX font shape seek baoso8r.mtx INFO> to make LaTeX font shape seek baosi8r.mtx INFO> to make LaTeX font shape seek baos8rn.mtx INFO> to make LaTeX font shape seek baosc8rn.mtx INFO> to make LaTeX font shape seek baoso8rn.mtx INFO> to make LaTeX font shape seek baosi8rn.mtx INFO> to make LaTeX font shape seek baod8r.mtx INFO> to make LaTeX font shape seek baodc8r.mtx INFO> to make LaTeX font shape seek baodo8r.mtx INFO> to make LaTeX font shape seek baodi8r.mtx INFO> to make LaTeX font shape seek baod8rn.mtx INFO> to make LaTeX font shape seek baodc8rn.mtx INFO> to make LaTeX font shape seek baodo8rn.mtx INFO> to make LaTeX font shape seek baodi8rn.mtx INFO> to make LaTeX font shape seek baom8r.mtx INFO> to make LaTeX font shape seek baomc8r.mtx INFO> to make LaTeX font shape seek baomo8r.mtx INFO> to make LaTeX font shape seek baomi8r.mtx INFO> to make LaTeX font shape seek baom8rn.mtx INFO> to make LaTeX font shape seek baomc8rn.mtx INFO> to make LaTeX font shape seek baomo8rn.mtx INFO> to make LaTeX font shape seek baomi8rn.mtx INFO> to make LaTeX font shape seek baoc8r.mtx INFO> to make LaTeX font shape seek baocc8r.mtx INFO> to make LaTeX font shape seek baoco8r.mtx INFO> to make LaTeX font shape seek baoci8r.mtx INFO> to make LaTeX font shape seek baoc8rn.mtx INFO> to make LaTeX font shape seek baocc8rn.mtx INFO> to make LaTeX font shape seek baoco8rn.mtx INFO> to make LaTeX font shape seek baoci8rn.mtx INFO> to make LaTeX font shape seek baoh8r.mtx INFO> to make LaTeX font shape seek baohc8r.mtx INFO> to make LaTeX font shape seek baoho8r.mtx INFO> to make LaTeX font shape seek baohi8r.mtx INFO> to make LaTeX font shape seek baoh8rn.mtx INFO> to make LaTeX font shape seek baohc8rn.mtx INFO> to make LaTeX font shape seek baoho8rn.mtx INFO> to make LaTeX font shape seek baohi8rn.mtx INFO> to make LaTeX font shape seek baox8r.mtx INFO> to make LaTeX font shape seek baoxc8r.mtx INFO> to make LaTeX font shape seek baoxo8r.mtx INFO> to make LaTeX font shape seek baoxi8r.mtx INFO> to make LaTeX font shape seek baox8rn.mtx INFO> to make LaTeX font shape seek baoxc8rn.mtx INFO> to make LaTeX font shape seek baoxo8rn.mtx INFO> to make LaTeX font shape seek baoxi8rn.mtx INFO> to make LaTeX font shape seek baou8r.mtx INFO> to make LaTeX font shape seek baouc8r.mtx INFO> to make LaTeX font shape seek baouo8r.mtx INFO> to make LaTeX font shape seek baoui8r.mtx INFO> to make LaTeX font shape seek baou8rn.mtx INFO> to make LaTeX font shape seek baouc8rn.mtx INFO> to make LaTeX font shape seek baouo8rn.mtx INFO> to make LaTeX font shape seek baoui8rn.mtx INFO> to make LaTeX font shape seek baol8r.mtx INFO> to make LaTeX font shape seek baolc8r.mtx INFO> to make LaTeX font shape seek baolo8r.mtx INFO> to make LaTeX font shape seek baoli8r.mtx INFO> to make LaTeX font shape seek baol8rn.mtx INFO> to make LaTeX font shape seek baolc8rn.mtx INFO> to make LaTeX font shape seek baolo8rn.mtx INFO> to make LaTeX font shape seek baoli8rn.mtx Font definitions written on 8rbao.fd. Font definitions written on ot1bao.fd. Font definitions written on t1bao.fd. Font definitions written on ts1bao.fd. No pages of output. Transcript written on fontinst.log. ..So i end up w/ only these last for font decription files and the fontinst.log. Any ideas ? Someone suggested that it is a "dos-ascii" .afm file but is not AFAICT. Anyway, i include at the end of this mail (sorry for make it so long) the .afm for the roman series (baor8r.afm) There is even a 'fontinst' shell script: #!/bin/sh tex -progname=fontinst \&tex ${1+"$@"} But i cannot find any documentation on its use, whatsoever. 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csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA05697 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 06:38:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from nbgdi6-212-144-156-086.arcor-ip.net (212.144.156.86) by mail.arcor-ip.de; 19 Apr 2000 14:38:17 +0200 Message-ID: <38fda8ba38fdf3a3@mail.arcor-ip.de> (added by mail.arcor-ip.de) From: "Walter Schmidt" To: "otel@ce.chalmers.se" Cc: "tex-fonts" Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 14:38:13 +0200 (MSZ) Reply-To: "Walter Schmidt" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail/2 PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Fontinst / afm2tfm question On Wed, 19 Apr 2000 13:16:17 +0200 (MET DST), Florian-Daniel Otel wrote: >1) How can i fix fontinst/what is the problem The answer was already given on the fontinst list; it seems as if it did not get through to you: The afm names must end with "8a" instead of "8r", then fontinst's \latinfamily command will see them and generate the pl, vpl, and fd files. Greetings Walter -- Walter Schmidt Schornbaumstrasse 2, 91052 Erlangen, Germany pgp key (0xB3F3ACED, 1024 bit, DSS): see key fingerprint: CEE3 0783 8468 4B7F 1054 1543 83AD 20A5 B3F3 ACED 19-Apr-2000 13:14:33-GMT,1833;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from solen.ce.chalmers.se (solen.ce.chalmers.se [129.16.20.244]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA06540 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 07:14:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from rasputin.ce.chalmers.se (rasputin.ce.chalmers.se [129.16.20.199]) by solen.ce.chalmers.se (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA11230; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 15:14:30 +0200 (MET DST) From: Florian-Daniel Otel Received: (from otel@localhost) by rasputin.ce.chalmers.se (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA17332; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 15:14:30 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 15:14:30 +0200 (MET DST) To: Lars =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Hellstr=F6m?= Cc: "tex-fonts" Subject: Succeeded (Re: Newbie question) In-Reply-To: References: <14588.46625.331292.642926@rasputin.ce.chalmers.se> X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <14589.44957.693026.137211@rasputin.ce.chalmers.se> Reply-To: otel@ce.chalmers.se Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII I renamed all the files to use the "8a" encoding and everything works perfect for one family. Many, many thanks and appologies for not seeing this question already answered to the list (as some pointed out). Two little questions still remain: 1) Is it possible to automate the fontinst process (i.e. as part of a shell script) for several families ?. Again, i have a 'fontinst' script but i cannot figure if/how to use it part of a shell script 2) As i asked in my original mail, is there a tool (i.e. other than fontinst) to create the font descripiton files (.fd) ? Many many thanks once again, Florian. 19-Apr-2000 13:55:14-GMT,1568;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from abel.math.umu.se (abel.math.umu.se [130.239.20.139]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA07485 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 07:55:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [130.239.20.144] (mac144.math.umu.se [130.239.20.144]) by abel.math.umu.se (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id QAA01478; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 16:50:39 +0200 (CEST) X-Sender: lars@abel.math.umu.se Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <14589.44957.693026.137211@rasputin.ce.chalmers.se> References: <14588.46625.331292.642926@rasputin.ce.chalmers.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 15:55:07 +0200 To: otel@ce.chalmers.se From: Lars =?iso-8859-1?Q?Hellstr=F6m?= Subject: Re: Succeeded (Re: Newbie question) Cc: "tex-fonts" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by csc-sun.math.utah.edu id HAA07487 At 15.14 +0200 0-04-19, Florian-Daniel Otel wrote: [snip] >Two little questions still remain: > >1) Is it possible to automate the fontinst process (i.e. as part of a shell >script) for several families ?. Again, i have a 'fontinst' script but >i cannot figure if/how to use it part of a shell script As I understand it, that is exactly how most of CTAN:fonts/psfonts/ is made, and hence the answer to your question is yes. Lars Hellström 20-Apr-2000 2:19:39-GMT,1441;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from comet.connix.com (root@comet.connix.com [198.69.10.4]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA28405 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 20:19:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from kale (mail@kale.connix.com [204.183.64.34]) by comet.connix.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA05025; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 22:19:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rtietjen by kale with local (Exim 2.05 #1 (Debian)) id 12i6X9-00013a-00; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 22:17:35 -0400 Subject: Re: Succeeded (Re: Newbie question) To: otel@ce.chalmers.se Cc: "tex-fonts" , Lars =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Hellstr=F6m?= Message-Id: X-Mailer: TkMail 4.0beta9 In-Reply-To: <14589.44957.693026.137211@rasputin.ce.chalmers.se> From: Richard Tietjen Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 22:17:35 -0400 look for Alan Hoenig's vfinst program on CTAN under support/ I think. It automates the proces: you feed it a batch of AFM files, it does a bunch of calculations and generates a couple of scripts containing the fontinst and installation commands. --+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+-- Richard Tietjen rtietjen@connix.com "Irony is what they make two-edged swords from." --+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+-- 23-Apr-2000 22:43:16-GMT,1926;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail4.ox.ac.uk [163.1.2.33]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA21438 for ; Sun, 23 Apr 2000 16:43:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from ermine.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.13]) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 12jV5s-0003JZ-00; Sun, 23 Apr 2000 23:43:12 +0100 Received: from max2.public.ox.ac.uk ([192.76.27.2] helo=localhost.localdomain ident=rahtz) by ermine.ox.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 12jV5s-0000m2-00; Sun, 23 Apr 2000 23:43:12 +0100 X-Mailer: 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid (via feedmail 8 Q); VM 6.71 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid From: "Sebastian Rahtz" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14595.31063.949275.818011@localhost.localdomain> Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 23:29:43 +0100 (BST) To: otel@ce.chalmers.se Cc: tex-fonts@csc-sun.math.utah.edu Subject: Re: Succeeded (Re: Newbie question) In-Reply-To: <14589.44957.693026.137211@rasputin.ce.chalmers.se> References: <14588.46625.331292.642926@rasputin.ce.chalmers.se> <14589.44957.693026.137211@rasputin.ce.chalmers.se> Florian-Daniel Otel writes: > 1) Is it possible to automate the fontinst process (i.e. as part of a shell > script) for several families ?. Again, i have a 'fontinst' script but > i cannot figure if/how to use it part of a shell script Alan Hoenig has put some nice packages on CTAN for this (look for vfinst), or CTAN:fonts/psfonts/tools has some tools I wrote in Perl which you may be able to disentangle. Its been some years since I looked at them. > 2) As i asked in my original mail, is there a tool (i.e. other than > fontinst) to create the font descripiton files (.fd) ? Not that I am aware of Sebastian 28-Apr-2000 18:25:44-GMT,3141;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from rm-rstar.sfu.ca (root@rm-rstar.sfu.ca [142.58.120.21]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA06131 for ; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 12:25:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from aldrington.ppp.cs.sfu.ca (rs5-annex1.sfu.ca [142.58.121.5]) by rm-rstar.sfu.ca (8.9.2/8.9.2/SFU-5.0H) with ESMTP id LAA18911; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 11:25:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from melissa@localhost) by aldrington.ppp.cs.sfu.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA09385; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 11:25:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200004281825.LAA09385@aldrington.ppp.cs.sfu.ca> Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v148.2.1) X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 2.2p1) From: "M.E. O'Neill" Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 11:25:19 -0700 To: Fontinst Mailing List , TeX Fonts Mailing List Subject: Italic Small Caps I was recently looking at some old metrics and FD files made by an ancient version of fontinst (1.335), and saw that they included italic small-caps (which were actually faked). This intrigued me for two reasons: (1) the name used for the italic small-caps shape; and (2) the fact that it included italic small caps at all, given that (lately at least) fontinst's \latinfamily does not seem to grok the concept of italic small caps. The FD file called the italic small-caps NFSS font shape `scit', which seemed curious to me, since fonts themselves seem to call themselves by names such as ``Minion Italic Small Caps'', and alphabetical ordering would also put `it' before `sc'. _The LaTeX Companion_, has little to say about how shape qualifiers should be ordered when combined. I also couldn't seem to find any guidance on the proper name from fontinst, because even when you have a font such as pmmrci8a.afm, it won't create italic small-caps font metrics for you. Thus, I have two questions: - Which should it be, `itsc' or `scit'? - Why doesn't \latinfamily make italic small-caps metrics? Some readers may feel that because real italic small-caps fonts are somewhat rare, \latinfamily doesn't need to support them, but I would disagree. Good typography demands italic small-caps (see Robert Bringhurst's _Elements of Typographic Style_). Not having a real italic small caps font isn't necessarily a problem, because an oblique version of a real roman small caps font could be an acceptable substitute. Even if a user doesn't have a real small caps font, faked italic small caps are no uglier than faked roman small caps. I realize that it's not all that hard for experts to use \installfont to make any fonts they want, including italic small-caps, but I was disturbed to discover that \latinfamily doesn't even try to make italic small caps metrics when the proper font exists! Comments welcome, M.E.O. P.S. We also might want to look at the long-standing problem where \textsc{Foo \emph{bar}} (and vice versa) doesn't do what it should. I don't think this one would be very difficult to fix (just test \f@shape in the code for \em and Do The Right Thing(tm)). 29-Apr-2000 15:31:49-GMT,2308;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from postfix1.free.fr (postfix@postfix1.free.fr [212.27.32.21]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA00523 for ; Sat, 29 Apr 2000 09:31:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from ujf-grenoble.fr (grenoble-53-15.dial.proxad.net [213.228.53.15]) by postfix1.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id E16C8280BF; Sat, 29 Apr 2000 17:31:44 +0200 (MEST) Message-ID: <390AF973.46F8A9B5@ujf-grenoble.fr> Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 17:02:11 +0200 From: Thierry Bouche X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [fr] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: fr,en,es MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "M.E. O'Neill" Cc: Fontinst Mailing List , TeX Fonts Mailing List Subject: Re: Italic Small Caps References: <200004281825.LAA09385@aldrington.ppp.cs.sfu.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit "M.E. O'Neill" a écrit : > > I was recently looking at some old metrics and FD files made by an > ancient version of fontinst (1.335), and saw that they included italic > small-caps (which were actually faked). this reminds me something... > - Which should it be, `itsc' or `scit'? whatever you want, as there are no standards at all. I heard that Alan Hoenig used `si'. If you have my minion metrics, you probably also have minion.sty where i say \let\scit\itsc, proving that i can't rememebr myself which i choosed... > - Why doesn't \latinfamily make italic small-caps metrics? It could probably. The rationale would be to first try the actual thing (needs a standard kb name); then by italising the sc in the sc font, hen by faking it totally. But, as it's out of nfss' scope (as are EC scsl fonts), probably noone will want to do that... Daniel Taupin found a workaround for \textsc{\emph{...}} by making small caps a family rather than a shape. People from the latex team said once that the proper `fix' would be to add a new nfss axis called `case' (making us rid of MakeUppercase troubles, etc.) but this was never implemented, afaik. Thierry PS When using a MM font with design size axis, you're far away from anything latinfamily can handle anyway (a typical font name would be pmnrci7d12.afm !) 30-Apr-2000 6:27:45-GMT,4032;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from rm-rstar.sfu.ca (root@rm-rstar.sfu.ca [142.58.120.21]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA16833 for ; Sun, 30 Apr 2000 00:27:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from aldrington.ppp.cs.sfu.ca (rs7-annex1.sfu.ca [142.58.121.7]) by rm-rstar.sfu.ca (8.9.2/8.9.2/SFU-5.0H) with ESMTP id XAA11777; Sat, 29 Apr 2000 23:27:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from melissa@localhost) by aldrington.ppp.cs.sfu.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA10097; Sat, 29 Apr 2000 23:27:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200004300627.XAA10097@aldrington.ppp.cs.sfu.ca> Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v148.2.1) In-Reply-To: <390AF973.46F8A9B5@ujf-grenoble.fr> X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 2.2p1) From: "M.E. O'Neill" Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 23:27:13 -0700 To: Thierry Bouche Subject: Re: Italic Small Caps (+ MM font tool mutterings) cc: Fontinst Mailing List , TeX Fonts Mailing List References: <200004281825.LAA09385@aldrington.ppp.cs.sfu.ca> <390AF973.46F8A9B5@ujf-grenoble.fr> I wrote: >> Which should it be [for italic small caps], `itsc' or `scit'? Thierry Bouche wrote: > whatever you want, as there are no standards at all. I heard that Alan > Hoenig used `si'. If you have my minion metrics, you probably also have > minion.sty where i say \let\scit\itsc, proving that i can't rememebr > myself which i choosed... Well, I would say that the members of these two mailing lists set the de-facto standards. If there is no standard right now, I'd propose that we use itsc, mirroring the names used for fonts (e.g., MinionMM-It, MinionMM-SC and MinionMM-ItSC). (Unless there is a good reason to use a two-letter code, other than saving people a couple of keystrokes.) > But, as [italic small caps fonts are] out of nfss' scope (as are EC > scsl fonts), probably no one will want to [add add italic small-caps > support to \latinfamily]... Well, maybe it's time for someone to overhaul NFSS? [Not that I'm volunteering: I like to steer clear of writing L@TeX inter@ls c@de.] > Daniel Taupin found a workaround for \textsc{\emph{...}} by making small > caps a family rather than a shape. People from the latex team said once > that the proper `fix' would be to add a new nfss axis called `case' > (making us rid of MakeUppercase troubles, etc.) but this was never > implemented, afaik. I think the obvious thing for NFSS is to see the font-shape attributes as coming from a set -- that way you could make whether or not old-style digits are used; or whether the font is artificially slanted or ``outline style'' part of that set too. (You might even be able to encode other attributes like underlining.) > PS When using a MM font with design size axis, you're far away from > anything latinfamily can handle anyway (a typical font name would be > pmnrci7d12.afm !) Actually, the TFMs I use have names like pmnrci8yc1095.tfm. And, yes they aren't made by \latinfamily; they aren't made by fontinst at all. They're made on-the-fly by FontKit, my Perl-based tool that generates metrics for multiple-master font instances. (If you're interested in the fun you can have with MM fonts and TeX, you could try checking out ). M.E.O. P.S. I've been thinking of releasing my current code for FontKit. I had hoped to clean up the code a little and make it a little less ad hoc and a lot better documented, but I've been sitting on it for a couple of years hoping I'd find time to do that (or better yet reimplement it >From scratch), and haven't. Is anyone eager to see me release FontKit? As it stands right now, it's actually fairly usable, at least if you're using Minion, Kepler, Cronos, Myriad, Tekton, or Nueva (which happen to be the MM fonts I have) and you don't have a problem using the LY1/TeXnANSI encoding rather than the T1/Cork+TS1+8r/TexLatin1 encodings. 2-May-2000 15:45:15-GMT,3874;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from ns2.ubcom.net (ns2.ubcom.net [212.72.160.2]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA21617 for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 09:45:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from vossnet.de (port118.ts1.hh.ubcom.net [212.72.168.119]) by ns2.ubcom.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA05084; Tue, 2 May 2000 17:44:49 +0200 Message-ID: <390EAE83.9A5E89F6@vossnet.de> Date: Tue, 02 May 2000 12:31:31 +0200 From: Hilmar Schlegel X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: Fontinst Mailing List , TeX Fonts Mailing List Subject: Re: Italic Small Caps References: <200004281825.LAA09385@aldrington.ppp.cs.sfu.ca> <390AF973.46F8A9B5@ujf-grenoble.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by csc-sun.math.utah.edu id JAA21618 Thierry Bouche wrote: > > "M.E. O'Neill" a écrit : > > I was recently looking at some old metrics and FD files made by an > > ancient version of fontinst (1.335), and saw that they included italic > > small-caps (which were actually faked). > > this reminds me something... > > > - Which should it be, `itsc' or `scit'? > > whatever you want, as there are no standards at all. I heard that Alan > Hoenig used `si'. If you have my minion metrics, you probably also have ci, i.e. small Caps font, Italic style > minion.sty where i say \let\scit\itsc, proving that i can't rememebr > myself which i choosed... > > > - Why doesn't \latinfamily make italic small-caps metrics? > > It could probably. The rationale would be to first try the actual thing > (needs a standard kb name); then by italising the sc in the sc font, hen > by faking it totally. MEO> Not having a real italic MEO> small caps font isn't necessarily a problem, because an oblique version MEO> of a real roman small caps font could be an acceptable substitute. Even MEO> if a user doesn't have a real small caps font, faked italic small caps MEO> are no uglier than faked roman small caps. Ugh! You have italic caps available, why you would want to fake them by slanting??? (Yes, it is essential here to mix fonts ;-) > > But, as it's out of nfss' scope (as are EC scsl fonts), probably noone > will want to do that... Those who could do it do not consider it as essential (perhaps even count is as an "advantage" to have such a restricted scheme). A more flexible, i.e. extendable scheme could help TeX to survive a bit longer in a world of developping software... > Daniel Taupin found a workaround for \textsc{\emph{...}} by making small > caps a family rather than a shape. People from the latex team said once Well, the only practical way is to define a family for dealing with the attributes. The reason is obviously that NFSS has no way to combine more than two font attributes for a family (aside from the encoding, which is only available in NFSS2): shape + series. For a workaround, which is a bit simpler, I considered it as sensible also to use \sl for scit since for proper font application there is not much room to use slanted versions (except for those fonts where you have real slanted designs). > that the proper `fix' would be to add a new nfss axis called `case' > (making us rid of MakeUppercase troubles, etc.) but this was never > implemented, afaik. I don't know if "case" will give us relief here. Indeed it is the restricted philosophy of axes, just similar to the problem of only 4 attributes beeing possible for one font name in M$-Win... > Thierry > > PS When using a MM font with design size axis, you're far away from > anything latinfamily can handle anyway (a typical font name would be > pmnrci7d12.afm !) mnci712.afm? Hilmar Schlegel ### 24-May-2000 21:32:03-GMT,1279;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from mail.arcor-ip.de (mail-ffm-p.arcor-ip.de [145.253.2.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA12341 for ; Wed, 24 May 2000 15:32:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from nbgdi6-212-144-156-048.arcor-ip.net (212.144.156.48) by mail.arcor-ip.de; 24 May 2000 23:31:20 +0200 Message-ID: <392c4a293943c9b4@mail.arcor-ip.de> (added by mail.arcor-ip.de) From: "Walter Schmidt" To: "tex-fonts" Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 23:30:31 +0200 (MSZ) Reply-To: "Walter Schmidt" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail/2 PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: KB codes needed Hi, I intend to to provide TeX metrics for several Type1 fonts distributed by Softmaker Two questions: What should I use as the KB code for the supplier (Softmaker)? I assume that I have to use "f", because there is nothing else available. (No, I don't want to start one more discussion about a new fontname scheme now !!!) What should I use as the KB code for the typface "Polo"? -- TIA Walter 27-May-2000 0:05:47-GMT,1894;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from jagger.cs.colostate.edu (jagger.CS.ColoState.EDU [129.82.46.125]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA24735 for ; Fri, 26 May 2000 18:05:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (hansenp@localhost) by jagger.cs.colostate.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA12462 for ; Fri, 26 May 2000 18:05:16 -0600 Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 18:05:16 -0600 (MDT) From: paul hansen To: tex-fonts@csc-sun.math.utah.edu Subject: question about latex fonts Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Can you direct me to a newsgroup or some other source of basic information about installing a font: adobe/janson? I have the files from CTAN and have placed them in what I believe to be the appropriate dirs in a tex/latex installation on RedHat6.1 linux. tfm files -> /usr/share/texmf/fonts/tfm/adobe/janson vf file -> /usr/share/texmf/fonts/vf/adobe/janson fd files and janson.sty -> /usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/psfonts copied the pjn.map to the psfonts.map The most vivid problem is when I run latex it says it can't find janson.sty, so I provide the full path and it continues on. I then run dvips. However, it is clear the font is not working (no bold, and I think it is defaulting to Times Roman -- it's hard to tell, as the two fonts are very similar). If you can help me, or point me in the right direction, I would be VERY, VERY appreciative! thanks very much, Paul +-=-+--=-+=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+ Paul A. Hansen Systems Administration Assistant Department of Computer Science email: hansenp@cs.colostate.edu Colorado State University phone: 970-491-5305 Fort Collins, CO 80526 27-May-2000 0:22:59-GMT,2297;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from vb.landmarknet.net (vb.landmarknet.net [207.242.12.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA25146 for ; Fri, 26 May 2000 18:22:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from PINGA ([63.75.120.127]) by vb.landmarknet.net (Netscape Messaging Server 3.62) with ESMTP id 245; Fri, 26 May 2000 20:21:44 -0400 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20000526202348.00b37180@ai.mit.edu> X-Sender: bkph@ai.mit.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 20:23:53 -0400 To: paul hansen , tex-fonts@csc-sun.math.utah.edu From: Berthold Horn Subject: Re: question about latex fonts In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed http://www.YandY.com/ly1/j.htm At 18:05 2000-05-26 -0600, paul hansen wrote: >Can you direct me to a newsgroup or some other source of basic information >about installing a font: adobe/janson? > >I have the files from CTAN and have placed them in what I believe to be >the appropriate dirs in a tex/latex installation on RedHat6.1 linux. > > tfm files -> /usr/share/texmf/fonts/tfm/adobe/janson > > vf file -> /usr/share/texmf/fonts/vf/adobe/janson > > fd files and janson.sty -> /usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/psfonts > > copied the pjn.map to the psfonts.map > >The most vivid problem is when I run latex it says it can't find >janson.sty, so I provide the full path and it continues on. I then run >dvips. However, it is clear the font is not working (no bold, and I think >it is defaulting to Times Roman -- it's hard to tell, as the two fonts are >very similar). > >If you can help me, or point me in the right direction, I would be VERY, >VERY appreciative! > >thanks very much, > > Paul > >+-=-+--=-+=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+ > Paul A. Hansen Systems Administration Assistant > Department of Computer Science email: hansenp@cs.colostate.edu > Colorado State University phone: 970-491-5305 > Fort Collins, CO 80526 -- Berthold K.P. Horn mailto:bkph@ai.mit.edu http://www.ai.mit.edu/people/bkph (LT) 27-May-2000 10:51:19-GMT,2026;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from kammer.uni-hannover.de (IDENT:root@zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.53]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA06744 for ; Sat, 27 May 2000 04:51:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de.kammer.uni-hannover.de (reinhard@zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.54]) by kammer.uni-hannover.de (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA04873; Sat, 27 May 2000 12:51:44 +0200 Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 12:51:44 +0200 Message-Id: <200005271051.MAA04873@kammer.uni-hannover.de> From: Reinhard Kotucha MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: paul hansen Cc: tex-fonts@csc-sun.math.utah.edu Subject: question about latex fonts In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.37 under Emacs 20.2.1 >>>>> "paul" == paul hansen writes: > Can you direct me to a newsgroup or some other source of basic > information about installing a font: adobe/janson? > [...] fd files and janson.sty -> /usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/psfonts > The most vivid problem is when I run latex it says it can't find > janson.sty, [...] Did you run the program `texhash' or `mktexlsr'? You should run one of them whenever you add files to the texmf tree. Regards, Reinhard -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Reinhard Kotucha Phone: +49-511-751355 Berggartenstr. 9 D-30419 Hannover mailto:reinhard@kammer.uni-hannover.de ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Microsoft isn't the answer. Microsoft is the question, and the answer is NO. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 30-May-2000 9:35:11-GMT,1537;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA24623 for ; Tue, 30 May 2000 03:35:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from regulus.informatik.uni-hannover.de (regulus.informatik.uni-hannover.de [130.75.26.7]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA21262 for ; Tue, 30 May 2000 04:30:28 -0400 Received: (from te@localhost) by regulus.informatik.uni-hannover.de (8.10.1/8.10.1) id e4U9Xkw04059 for tex-fonts@tug.org; Tue, 30 May 2000 11:33:46 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 11:33:46 +0200 (MET DST) From: Thomas Esser Message-Id: <200005300933.e4U9Xkw04059@regulus.informatik.uni-hannover.de> To: tex-fonts@tug.org Subject: (fwd) texmf/dvips/base/cork.enc Just forwarding... Can someone else please correct the file? Thomas -- >From owner-tetex-pretest@informatik.uni-hannover.de Tue May 23 22:26:53 2000 X-Authentication-Warning: vvv.vsu.ru: vvv set sender to vvv@vvv.vsu.ru using -f To: tetex-pretest@informatik.uni-hannover.de Subject: texmf/dvips/base/cork.enc: broken LIGKERN entries? From: Vladimir Volovich Date: 24 May 2000 00:22:47 +0400 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0803 (Gnus v5.8.3) Emacs/20.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Hi, the file cork.enc seems to contain broken LIGKERN entries: @{@} instead of {} it looks like someone have preferred a nice-looking manual to correctness of the file. ;-( Best regards, -- Vladimir. 6-Jun-2000 17:27:25-GMT,1269;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from mail.arcor-ip.de (mail-ffm-p.arcor-ip.de [145.253.2.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA12464 for ; Tue, 6 Jun 2000 11:27:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from nbgdi5-145-253-124-046.arcor-ip.net (145.253.124.46) by mail.arcor-ip.de; 6 Jun 2000 19:26:51 +0200 Message-ID: <393d345c393db9eb@mail.arcor-ip.de> (added by mail.arcor-ip.de) From: "Walter Schmidt" To: "tex-fonts" Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2000 19:26:13 +0200 (MSZ) Reply-To: "Walter Schmidt" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail/2 PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: track kerning Hi, apologizing that my question is a bit off-topic -- it is not special for TeX. I found the following piece of information in an afm file: StartTrackKern 3 TrackKern -1 6 0.10 144 -2.09 TrackKern -2 6 0.05 144 -4.02 TrackKern -3 6 0.00 144 -5.96 I know that this means, that letterspacing should vary with font size. However, what does this mean _quantitatively_? How do I have to read this information? TIA Walter 6-Jun-2000 19:48:13-GMT,3592;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from abel.math.umu.se (abel.math.umu.se [130.239.20.139]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA16376 for ; Tue, 6 Jun 2000 13:48:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [130.239.20.144] (mac144.math.umu.se [130.239.20.144]) by abel.math.umu.se (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id WAA00150; Mon, 5 Jun 2000 22:43:00 +0200 (CEST) X-Sender: lars@abel.math.umu.se Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <393d345c393db9eb@mail.arcor-ip.de> (added by mail.arcor-ip.de) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 21:48:10 +0200 To: "Walter Schmidt" From: Lars =?iso-8859-1?Q?Hellstr=F6m?= Subject: Re: track kerning Cc: "tex-fonts" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by csc-sun.math.utah.edu id NAA16377 At 19.26 +0200 0-06-06, Walter Schmidt wrote: >Hi, > >apologizing that my question is a bit off-topic -- it is not >special for TeX. > >I found the following piece of information in an afm file: > >StartTrackKern 3 >TrackKern -1 6 0.10 144 -2.09 >TrackKern -2 6 0.05 144 -4.02 >TrackKern -3 6 0.00 144 -5.96 > >I know that this means, that letterspacing should vary with >font size. However, what does this mean _quantitatively_? >How do I have to read this information? On p. 27-28, Adobe technical note 5004 (AFM specification) says: Normally track kerning is provided in different degrees of tightness. Within a track (a degree of tightness), the amount to decrease (or possibly increase) the amount of space between characters increases (or possibly decreases) with the point size of the font (for example, for tight track kerning, the amount to decrease the space between characters at 6 point might be 0.1 points and at 72 point it might be 3.78 points). These distances are measured along the width of the characters: parallel to the x-axis for horizontal writing directions and parallel to the y-axis for vertical writing directions. The data itself begins with the keyword TrackKern and is followed by the track kerning information TrackKern degree min-ptsize min-kern max-ptsize max-kern The degree is an integer where increasingly negative degrees represent tighter track kerning and increasingly positive degrees represent looser track kerning. min-ptsize, min-kern, max-ptsize, and max-kern are all numbers. Since the track kerning is a linear function, the minimum and maximum cut-off values (point sizes) are provided, along with the amount to track kern by, at the point size. The kerning amounts are given relative to the point size. From those four values, the track kerning function can be derived. The track kerning function is a linear function. The equation for the line is determined from the data provided and, therefore, the track kerning values for any point size can be determined. The track kerning values for any point size below/above the minimum/maximum point size are constant (the minimum kerning amount/maximum kerning amount). I must say it looks a bit confusing, though, since what follows appears to claim that min-kern and max-kern are in absolute points. They do give formulae for how the track kerning varies with at-size, but the asymptotic behaviour of those formulae gets absurd. (Maybe a case of programmer not thinking too hard of what the formula implemented really means.) Lars Hellström 6-Jun-2000 20:30:09-GMT,2692;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from june.cs.washington.edu (june.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.4]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA17492 for ; Tue, 6 Jun 2000 14:30:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from mackay@localhost) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/0.3j) id NAA44713; Tue, 6 Jun 2000 13:29:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mackay) Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 13:29:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Pierre MacKay Message-Id: <200006062029.NAA44713@june.cs.washington.edu> To: walter.schmidt@arcormail.de Subject: Re: track kerning Cc: tex-fonts@csc-sun.math.utah.edu In-Reply-To: <393d345c393db9eb@mail.arcor-ip.de> Track kerning is the wretched practice of distorting both the set width and the very shape of a letter to get an easy fit in the line. It's bad enough when the letterspacing is so reduced that combinations like vi produce accidental ligatures, but publications that indulge in it rarely stop there. Perhaps the worst example is the US weekly "The New Yorker'" a magazine which once had standards. The New Yorker has no shame about setting a line that is effectively in 33 percent condensed type right after a line that is set in letterspaced 20 percent extended type. This is often caused by the fact that the New Yorker doesn't know how to hyphenate. Until recently, I thought that Atlantic Monthly was proof against the blandishments of tracking seducers, but it is beginning to show up there too. The excuse would be given that the format is narrow columns and there is a deadline onproduction. I look at the narrow justified columns of the New York Times, and if they are using tracking at all, it must be in such infinitesimal amounts that my old eyes can't see it. The Economist which cared enough to design its own font occasionally drops in a Verrrry loose line, but I have not been able to see any overt use of tracking. Some of their columnar formats are even narrower than those of the New Yorker. In short, tracking seems to be the resource of people who just don't really give a damn any more. Goudy used to dismiss letterspacers in a quaintly Scottish way as "sheep stealers." (Some of my more remote ancestors probably indulged in sheep stealing, though it was more a lowland than a highland practice---the valley sheep are fatter.) I wonder what he would have said about people who distort his faces almost beyond recognition. Email: mackay@cs.washington.edu Pierre A. MacKay Smail: Department of Classics Emeritus Druid for 218 Denny Hall, Box 353110 Unix-flavored TeX University of Washington Seattle, WA 98195 (206) 543-2268 (Message recorder) 6-Jun-2000 20:53:02-GMT,1870;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA18242 for ; Tue, 6 Jun 2000 14:52:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from nautilus.netg.se (root@nautilus.netg.se [212.91.134.131]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA27495 for ; Tue, 6 Jun 2000 15:48:00 -0400 Received: from GREMLIN.us (r031.dip.netg.se [195.17.120.223]) by nautilus.netg.se (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id WAA14598 for ; Tue, 6 Jun 2000 22:52:30 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: nautilus.netg.se: Host r031.dip.netg.se [195.17.120.223] claimed to be GREMLIN.us Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.0.20000606224623.00bf6e90@mail.netg.se> X-Sender: bp@mail.netg.se X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2000 22:50:56 +0200 To: tex-fonts@tug.org From: BP Jonsson Subject: Correct "fontname"s for some OS digit fonts Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Hi, what are the correct fontname/fontinst names for such Adobe fonts as (so to speak) pplrc8a pplri8a pplb8a pplbi8a with old-style digits? TIA, /BP B.Philip Jonsson mailto:melroch@mail.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~__ A h-ammen pennuid i phith! \ \ __ ____ ____ _____________ ____ __ __ __ / / \ \/___ \\__ \ /___ _____/\ \\__ \\ \ \ \\ \ / / / / / / / \ / /Melroch\ \_/ // / / // / / / / /___/ /_ / /\ \ / /Melarocco\_ // /__/ // /__/ / /_________//_/ \_\/ /Eowine__ / / \___/\_\\___/\_\ Gwaedhvenn Angelmiel\ \_____/ / a/ /_adar Merthol naun ~~~~~~~~~Cuinondil~~~\_______/~~~\__/~~~Noolendur~~~~~~ || Lenda lenda pellalenda pellatellenda cuivie aiya! || "A coincidence, as we say in Middle-Earth" (JRR Tolkien) 6-Jun-2000 21:26:56-GMT,2015;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from dolomite.mint.net (dolomite.mint.net [216.227.128.33]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA19351 for ; Tue, 6 Jun 2000 15:26:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from PINGA (northconway-ppp-664.landmarknet.net [63.75.120.162]) by dolomite.mint.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA26991; Tue, 6 Jun 2000 17:26:50 -0400 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20000606172819.02a50a20@ai.mit.edu> X-Sender: bkph@ai.mit.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2000 17:29:25 -0400 To: "Walter Schmidt" , "tex-fonts" From: "Berthold K.P. Horn" Subject: Re: track kerning In-Reply-To: <393d345c393db9eb@mail.arcor-ip.de> (added by mail.arcor-ip.de) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Hi:

This must a very old, or a very unusual font.
These days most fonts give kerning pairs instead.
"Track kerning" is a poor approximation that
allows one to tune the space some text takes,
crudely.

Regards, Berthold.

At 19:26 2000-06-06 +0200, Walter Schmidt wrote:
Hi,

apologizing that my question is a bit off-topic -- it is not
special for TeX.

I found the following piece of information in an afm file:

StartTrackKern 3
TrackKern -1 6 0.10 144 -2.09
TrackKern -2 6 0.05 144 -4.02
TrackKern -3 6 0.00 144 -5.96

I know that this means, that letterspacing should vary with
font size.  However, what does this mean _quantitatively_?
How do I have to read this information?

TIA

Walter

--
Berthold K.P. Horn mailto:bkph@ai.mit.edu http://www.ai.mit.edu/people/bkph (LT) 6-Jun-2000 21:35:03-GMT,2899;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA19654 for ; Tue, 6 Jun 2000 15:35:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from dolomite.mint.net (dolomite.mint.net [216.227.128.33]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA28049 for ; Tue, 6 Jun 2000 16:30:07 -0400 Received: from PINGA ([12.38.103.69]) by dolomite.mint.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA30738; Tue, 6 Jun 2000 17:34:15 -0400 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20000606173234.02ab8860@ai.mit.edu> X-Sender: bkph@ai.mit.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2000 17:33:34 -0400 To: BP Jonsson , tex-fonts@tug.org From: "Berthold K.P. Horn" Subject: Re: Correct "fontname"s for some OS digit fonts In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.0.20000606224623.00bf6e90@mail.netg.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Hi:

It would be easier to answer this question if you gave the actual
font file names.  Then you could look things up at
http://www.yandy.com/usely1.htm
for example.

Regards, Berthold.

At 22:50 2000-06-06 +0200, BP Jonsson wrote:
Hi,

what are the correct fontname/fontinst names for such Adobe fonts as (so to speak) pplrc8a pplri8a pplb8a pplbi8a with old-style digits?

TIA,


/BP

 B.Philip Jonsson  mailto:melroch@mail.com
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~__
            A h-ammen pennuid i phith!                \ \
   __  ____ ____    _____________ ____ __   __ __     / /
   \ \/___ \\__ \  /___  _____/\ \\__ \\ \  \ \\ \   / /
   / /   / /  /  \    / /Melroch\ \_/ // /  / // /  / /
  / /___/ /_ / /\ \  / /Melarocco\_  // /__/ // /__/ /
 /_________//_/  \_\/ /Eowine__   / / \___/\_\\___/\_\
Gwaedhvenn Angelmiel\ \_____/ / a/ /_adar Merthol naun
~~~~~~~~~Cuinondil~~~\_______/~~~\__/~~~Noolendur~~~~~~
|| Lenda lenda pellalenda pellatellenda cuivie aiya! ||
"A coincidence, as we say in Middle-Earth" (JRR Tolkien)


--
Berthold K.P. Horn mailto:bkph@ai.mit.edu http://www.ai.mit.edu/people/bkph (LT) 6-Jun-2000 23:16:50-GMT,1545;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from mail.arcor-ip.de (mail-ffm-p.arcor-ip.de [145.253.2.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA22480 for ; Tue, 6 Jun 2000 17:16:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from nbgdi5-145-253-124-204.arcor-ip.net (145.253.124.204) by mail.arcor-ip.de; 7 Jun 2000 01:16:18 +0200 Message-ID: <393d8643393e5d4b@mail.arcor-ip.de> (added by mail.arcor-ip.de) From: "Walter Schmidt" To: "Berthold K.P. Horn" , "tex-fonts" Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 01:08:31 +0200 (MSZ) Reply-To: "Walter Schmidt" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail/2 PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20000606172819.02a50a20@ai.mit.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: track kerning On Tue, 06 Jun 2000 17:29:25 -0400, Berthold K.P. Horn wrote: >This must a very old, or a very unusual font. >These days most fonts give kerning pairs instead. >[...] ??? At small sizes, adding some general positive kerning may improve readability. OTOH, at large sizes most fonts need to be typeset a bit tighter, so as not to look like "letterspaced". And "track kerning" is the quantitative description of this strategy, for a particular typeface. [Unfortunately, doing so is not easy with TeX, and it isn't automatically supported by fontinst, either.] -- best wishes Walter 7-Jun-2000 12:12:54-GMT,2629;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA08794 for ; Wed, 7 Jun 2000 06:12:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from nautilus.netg.se (root@nautilus.netg.se [212.91.134.131]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA31176 for ; Wed, 7 Jun 2000 07:07:55 -0400 Received: from GREMLIN.us (r039.dip.netg.se [195.17.120.231]) by nautilus.netg.se (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id OAA17074; Wed, 7 Jun 2000 14:12:44 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: nautilus.netg.se: Host r039.dip.netg.se [195.17.120.231] claimed to be GREMLIN.us Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.0.20000607140420.00cd4dd0@mail.netg.se> X-Sender: bp@mail.netg.se X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 14:06:41 +0200 To: "Berthold K.P. Horn" From: BP Jonsson Subject: Re: Correct "fontname"s for some OS digit fonts Cc: tex-fonts@tug.org In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20000606173234.02ab8860@ai.mit.edu> References: <4.3.2.7.0.20000606224623.00bf6e90@mail.netg.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 17:33 06.6.2000 -0400, Berthold K.P. Horn wrote: >It would be easier to answer this question if you gave the actual >font file names. They are as follows: FontName Palatino-SC FullName Palatino Small Caps & Old Style Figures FontName Palatino-ItalicOsF FullName Palatino Italic Old Style Figures FontName Palatino-BoldItalicOsF FullName Palatino Bold Italic Old Style Figures FontName Palatino-BoldOsF FullName Palatino Bold Old Style Figures >Then you could look things up at >http://www.yandy.com/usely1.htm >for example. > >Regards, Berthold. > >At 22:50 2000-06-06 +0200, BP Jonsson wrote: >>Hi, >> >>what are the correct fontname/fontinst names for such Adobe fonts as (so >>to speak) pplrc8a pplri8a pplb8a pplbi8a with old-style digits? >> >>TIA, >> /BP B.Philip Jonsson mailto:melroch@mail.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~__ A h-ammen pennuid i phith! \ \ __ ____ ____ _____________ ____ __ __ __ / / \ \/___ \\__ \ /___ _____/\ \\__ \\ \ \ \\ \ / / / / / / / \ / /Melroch\ \_/ // / / // / / / / /___/ /_ / /\ \ / /Melarocco\_ // /__/ // /__/ / /_________//_/ \_\/ /Eowine__ / / \___/\_\\___/\_\ Gwaedhvenn Angelmiel\ \_____/ / a/ /_adar Merthol naun ~~~~~~~~~Cuinondil~~~\_______/~~~\__/~~~Noolendur~~~~~~ || Lenda lenda pellalenda pellatellenda cuivie aiya! || "A coincidence, as we say in Middle-Earth" (JRR Tolkien) 7-Jun-2000 14:19:21-GMT,4156;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from freefriends.org ([63.85.55.109]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA11615 for ; Wed, 7 Jun 2000 08:19:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from karl@localhost) by freefriends.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA18565; Wed, 7 Jun 2000 10:17:05 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 10:17:05 -0400 Resent-From: Karl Berry Resent-Message-Id: <200006071417.KAA18565@freefriends.org> Resent-To: tex-fonts@csc-sun.math.utah.edu X-Sender: peterlin@sizif.mf.uni-lj.si Reply-To: Primoz Peterlin Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 11:23:06 +0200 (METDST) From: Primoz Peterlin To: karl@cs.umb.edu cc: knjiga@biofiz.mf.uni-lj.si Subject: TeX naming scheme [Resending to tex-fonts --karl] Dear Dr. Berry, I've got a bunch of URW Type 1 fonts and am trying to construct TeX file names according to your naming scheme. While doing so, I've encountered a problem. The fonts are from URW CD targeted at Central and Eastern European market and uses Microsoft CP1250 encoding . However, the most recent naming scheme I have found does not provide a tag for CP1250 encoding. As far as I understand, I have to construct the .enc file for this encoding vector, and ask you for a code to denote this encoding. Is this correct? With kind regards, Primoz Peterlin % $Id: psfonts.map,v 1.2 2000/06/06 23:19:49 peterlin Exp $ % % Columns: % 1 TeX font name (see Karl Berry's TeX font naming scheme, % ftp://ftp.cs.umb.edu/tex/fontname/) % 2 PostScript FontName % 3 original file name ulgrNN LetterGotLEE-Medi LE21004L.AFM ulgbNN LetterGotLEE-Bold LE21006L.AFM uhvjNN NimbusSanDEE-UltrLigh NE19001D.AFM uhvlNN NimbusSanDEE-Ligh NE19002D.AFM uhvrNN NimbusSanDEE-Regu NE19003D.AFM uhvrNN NimbusSanLEE-Regu NE19003L.AFM uhvbNN NimbusSanDEE-Bold NE19004D.AFM uhvbNN NimbusSanLEE-Bold NE19004L.AFM uhvcNN NimbusSanDEE-Blac NE19006D.AFM uhvjiNN NimbusSanDEE-LighItal NE19022D.AFM uhvriNN NimbusSanDEE-ReguItal NE19023D.AFM uhvriNN NimbusSanLEE-ReguItal NE19023L.AFM uhvbiNN NimbusSanDEE-BoldItal NE19024D.AFM uhvbiNN NimbusSanLEE-BoldItal NE19024L.AFM uhvciNN NimbusSanDEE-BlacItal NE19026D.AFM uhvlNNc NimbusSanDEE-LighCond NE19042D.AFM uhvrNNc NimbusSanDEE-ReguCond NE19043D.AFM uhvrNNc NimbusSanLEE-ReguCond NE19043L.AFM uhvbNNc NimbusSanDEE-BoldCond NE19044D.AFM uhvbNNc NimbusSanLEE-BoldCond NE19044L.AFM uhvcNNc NimbusSanDEE-BlacCond NE19046D.AFM uhvliNNc NimbusSanDEE-LighCondItal NE19062D.AFM uhvriNNc NimbusSanDEE-ReguCondItal NE19063D.AFM uhvriNNc NimbusSanLEE-ReguCondItal NE19063L.AFM uhvbiNNc NimbusSanDEE-BoldCondItal NE19064D.AFM uhvbiNNc NimbusSanLEE-BoldCondItal NE19064L.AFM uhvciNNc NimbusSanDEE-BlacCondItal NE19066D.AFM uhvlNNx NimbusSanDEE-LighExte NE19082D.AFM uhvrNNx NimbusSanDEE-ReguExte NE19083D.AFM uhvbNNx NimbusSanDEE-BoldExte NE19084D.AFM uhvcNNx NimbusSanDEE-BlacExte NE19086D.AFM uplrNN URWPalladioTEE-Regu PE63013T.AFM uplmNN URWPalladioTEE-Medi PE63014T.AFM uplbNN URWPalladioTEE-Bold PE63016T.AFM uplriNN URWPalladioTEE-ReguItal PE63033T.AFM uplmiNN URWPalladioTEE-MediItal PE63034T.AFM uplbiNN URWPalladioTEE-BoldItal PE63036T.AFM % $Log: psfonts.map,v $ % Revision 1.2 2000/06/06 23:19:49 peterlin % Substituted Dante for original Karl Berry's site. % % Revision 1.1 2000/06/06 22:58:04 peterlin % Metriène datoteke za pisave Postscript, ki jih uporabljamo pri % knjigi Linux z namizjem KDE. Datoteka fonts.map je poskus % preslikave v imena datotek, kot jih uporablja TeX. % -- Primo¾ Peterlin, In¹titut za biofiziko, Med. fakulteta, Univerza v Ljubljani Lipièeva 2, SI-1000 Ljubljana, Slovenija. primoz.peterlin@biofiz.mf.uni-lj.si Tel: +386-1-5437632, fax: +386-1-4315127, http://sizif.mf.uni-lj.si/~peterlin/ 7-Jun-2000 14:49:25-GMT,1401;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from mail.arcor-ip.de (mail-ffm-p.arcor-ip.de [145.253.2.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA12560 for ; Wed, 7 Jun 2000 08:49:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from nbgdi5-145-253-124-077.arcor-ip.net (145.253.124.77) by mail.arcor-ip.de; 7 Jun 2000 16:48:52 +0200 Message-ID: <393e60d4393f9edc@mail.arcor-ip.de> (added by mail.arcor-ip.de) From: "Walter Schmidt" To: "tex-fonts" Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 16:48:33 +0200 (MSZ) Reply-To: "Walter Schmidt" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail/2 PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: KB codes needed On Wed, 24 May 2000 23:30:31 +0200 (MSZ), Walter Schmidt wrote: >I intend to to provide TeX metrics for several Type1 fonts >[...] >What should I use as the KB code for the supplier (Softmaker)? FYI: I have chosen "5" now, in the hope that it's still unused. Can this be "officially" registered in the fontname documentation? TeX metrics for Softmaker's versions of Franklin Gothic, Futura and Sabon are now available from . So far, documentation is provided in German only. -- best wishes Walter 9-Jun-2000 5:22:19-GMT,996;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from relay2.vsu.ru (mail.vsu.ru [62.76.169.17]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA09271 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2000 23:21:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: by relay2.vsu.ru (Postfix, from userid 5) id 57EF71A2B; Fri, 9 Jun 2000 09:20:50 +0400 (MSD) Received: (from vvv@localhost) by vvv.vsu.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA03585; Fri, 9 Jun 2000 09:18:29 +0400 X-Authentication-Warning: vvv.vsu.ru: vvv set sender to vvv@vvv.vsu.ru using -f To: tetex-pretest@informatik.uni-hannover.de, tex-fonts@csc-sun.math.utah.edu Subject: bug in EC.enc From: Vladimir Volovich Date: 09 Jun 2000 09:18:29 +0400 Message-ID: Lines: 6 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0803 (Gnus v5.8.3) Emacs/20.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi, the file texmf/dvips/base/EC.enc has a buggy entry: /ldot instead of /ydieresis (unless i misunderstand something). Best regards, -- Vladimir. 9-Jun-2000 12:59:19-GMT,1337;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from coreserver.core.ucl.ac.be (coreserver.core.ucl.ac.be [130.104.4.39]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA18080 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2000 06:59:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from core.ucl.ac.be ([130.104.121.62]) by coreserver.core.ucl.ac.be (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id 157; Fri, 9 Jun 2000 15:03:20 +0200 Message-ID: <3940EA16.E09BBB0C@core.ucl.ac.be> Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 14:59:01 +0200 From: jfm Reply-To: jfm@core.ucl.ac.be Organization: CORE, =?iso-8859-1?Q?Universit=E9?= Catholique de Louvain X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en-GB,en,en-US,fr-FR,fr,fr-BE,fr-CH,fr-CA,es,es-ES,es-AR,es-CO,es-MX,nl,nl-BE,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: vvv@vvv.vsu.ru CC: tetex-pretest@informatik.uni-hannover.de, tex-fonts@csc-sun.math.utah.edu Subject: bug in EC.enc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by csc-sun.math.utah.edu id GAA18081 > the file texmf/dvips/base/EC.enc has a buggy entry: /ldot instead of > /ydieresis (unless i misunderstand something). Cf msg of Thomas Esser of feb 27 in this (tex-fonts) list. Jean-François Mertens. 21-Jun-2000 19:12:40-GMT,1216;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from mail.arcor-ip.de (mail-ffm-p.arcor-ip.de [145.253.2.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA13383 for ; Wed, 21 Jun 2000 13:12:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from nbgdi5-145-253-124-085.arcor-ip.net (145.253.124.85) by mail.arcor-ip.de; 21 Jun 2000 21:11:46 +0200 Message-ID: <3951137339569450@mail.arcor-ip.de> (added by mail.arcor-ip.de) From: "Walter Schmidt" To: "tex-fonts" Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 21:11:34 +0200 (MSZ) Reply-To: "Walter Schmidt" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail/2 PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: kerning of accented letters Hi, I see that many fonts define kern pairs like, e.g. KPX A p -12 but there is never a corresponding KPX Adieresis p -12 Is this a bug or a feature? Thank you in advance for any enlightening reply! Walter -- Walter Schmidt Schornbaumstrasse 2, 91052 Erlangen, Germany 21-Jun-2000 20:36:29-GMT,3739;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from suncore.math.utah.edu (suncore0.math.utah.edu [128.110.198.5]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA15623; Wed, 21 Jun 2000 14:36:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from beebe@localhost) by suncore.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA27541; Wed, 21 Jun 2000 14:36:28 -0600 (MDT) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 14:36:28 -0600 (MDT) From: "Nelson H. F. Beebe" To: tex-fonts@csc-sun.math.utah.edu Cc: beebe@csc-sun.math.utah.edu X-US-Mail: "Center for Scientific Computing, Department of Mathematics, 322 INSCC, University of Utah, 155 S 1400 E RM 233, Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA" X-Telephone: +1 801 581 5254 X-FAX: +1 801 585 1640, +1 801 581 4148 X-URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe Subject: Re: kerning of accented letters Message-ID: Walter Schmidt asks: >> ... many fonts define kern pairs like, e.g. >> KPX A p -12 >> but there is never a corresponding >> KPX Adieresis p -12 >> Is this a bug or a feature? I characterize it as anglocentric insensitivity, which I set out to quantify: In one collection of 41 .afm files (mostly Adobe's), I found only 6 with the additional ligatures: AntiqReg.afm: FontName URWAntiquaT-RegularCondensed BCharBo.afm: FontName CharterBT-Bold BCharBoI.afm: FontName CharterBT-BoldItalic BCharI.afm: FontName CharterBT-Italic BCharReg.afm: FontName CharterBT-Roman GroteBo.afm: FontName URWGroteskT-Bold with kern pairs for these accented letters: AntiqReg.afm: Adieresis Odieresis Udieresis [URW] BCharBo.afm: AE Aring Eth Lslash Oslash {Bitstream] BCharBoI.afm: AE Aring Eth Lslash Oslash {Bitstream] BCharI.afm: AE Aring Eth Lslash Oslash {Bitstream] BCharReg.afm: AE Aring Eth Lslash Oslash {Bitstream] GroteBo.afm: Adieresis Odieresis Udieresis [URW] In the Bitstream 500-font collection, I found 437 fonts with kerns for accented letters (10256 kerns in all, an average of 23.5/(font with such kerns)). In the Monotype disk 1 collection of 2842 fonts, 788 had accented-letter kern pairs (75,247 in all, an average of 95.49/(font with such kerns)). In the Monotype disk 2 collection of 601 fonts, 84 had accented-letter kern pairs (6012 in all, an average of 71.57/(font with such kerns)). In my 43-font URW collection, 35 had accented-letter kern pairs (4781 in all, an average of 136.6/(font with such kerns)). URW, a German firm, has the best record for such kerns, followed by Monotype, a venerable American firm. The American Bitstream is a distant third. Monotype's collection has a lot of Adobe fonts (1982 out of 3444 total). Of the 1982 Adobe fonts, 401 had accented-letter kern pairs, an average of 52.9/(font with such kerns). However, it would appear that about 80% of the Adobe fonts lack accented-letter kern pairs, and since Adobe fonts are widespread, particularly embedded in printers, the total worldwide effect is that accented letters are not often kerned, when they could be, and should be, for proper font balance. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Nelson H. F. Beebe Tel: +1 801 581 5254 - - Center for Scientific Computing FAX: +1 801 585 1640, +1 801 581 4148 - - University of Utah Internet e-mail: beebe@math.utah.edu - - Department of Mathematics, 322 INSCC beebe@acm.org beebe@computer.org - - 155 S 1400 E RM 233 beebe@ieee.org - - Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 21-Jun-2000 21:51:56-GMT,2102;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from dravite.mint.net (dravite.mint.net [216.227.128.32]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA18193 for ; Wed, 21 Jun 2000 15:51:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from PINGA (northconway-ppp-673.landmarknet.net [63.75.120.191] (may be forged)) by dravite.mint.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA01280; Wed, 21 Jun 2000 17:51:47 -0400 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20000621174947.00aa0428@ai.mit.edu> X-Sender: bkph@ai.mit.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 17:52:15 -0400 To: "Walter Schmidt" , "tex-fonts" From: "Berthold K.P. Horn" Subject: Re: kerning of accented letters In-Reply-To: <3951137339569450@mail.arcor-ip.de> (added by mail.arcor-ip.de) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" At 21:11 2000-06-21 +0200, Walter Schmidt wrote:
Hi,

I see that many fonts define kern pairs like, e.g.

  KPX A p -12

but there is never a corresponding

  KPX Adieresis p -12

Is this a bug or a feature?

Thank you in advance for any enlightening reply!

Blame the monoglottal English-speaking folks.
Also, there is some resistance to very large tables since in the old
days some software had limitations on how large the tables could be.

These days some software just replicates kern pairs based on
the base characters, which tends to work OK except for overhangs,
particularly with "i" as base  characters.

URW's Kernus would make such extra kern pairs if asked based
on what characters actually occur in a given language. 

Regards, Berthold.

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Berthold K.P. Horn mailto:bkph@ai.mit.edu http://www.ai.mit.edu/people/bkph (LT) 27-Jun-2000 22:48:22-GMT,2053;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from sizif.mf.uni-lj.si (peterlin@sizif.mf.uni-lj.si [193.2.69.15]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA02660 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 16:48:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (peterlin@localhost) by sizif.mf.uni-lj.si (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA21058 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 00:48:19 +0200 (METDST) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 00:48:19 +0200 (METDST) From: Primoz Peterlin X-Sender: peterlin@sizif.mf.uni-lj.si To: tex-fonts@csc-sun.math.utah.edu Subject: CP1250-encoded Type 1 to {vf,tfm,fd} Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Hello, I am facing a task of preparing a set of Type 1 fonts for use with LaTeX. Type 1 fonts -- PFB, AFM and PFM -- in question come from a CD that was sold by URW in the Central Europe, and uses Microsoft codepage 1250 (plus an odd dozen un-encoded characters) rather than Adobe Standard Encoding. What I would like to have is a set of TFM, VF and FD files using T1 (Cork) encoding. I believe that Fontinst (1.801 is the last stable release, right?) is exactly the tool I need. However, I am somewhat lost with it, and the manual is less helpful that I would have wished. There is an example of using the \latinfamily command early in it, but I think examples using individual low-level commands would also be helpful. For a start, I believe I have to write a mapping file (etx?) for CP1250 and somehow feed it to Fontinst. Is this what \reencodefont command is for? Do I need the etx file for the source (CP1250) or the target (T1) encoding? Best regards, Primoz -- Primo¾ Peterlin, In¹titut za biofiziko, Med. fakulteta, Univerza v Ljubljani Lipièeva 2, SI-1000 Ljubljana, Slovenija. primoz.peterlin@biofiz.mf.uni-lj.si Tel: +386-1-5437632, fax: +386-1-4315127, http://sizif.mf.uni-lj.si/~peterlin/ 28-Jun-2000 9:59:27-GMT,2053;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tibre.ujf-grenoble.fr (tibre.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.238.31]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA16321 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 03:59:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr (mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.241.5]) by tibre.ujf-grenoble.fr (Pro-8.9.3/8.9.3/Configured by AD & JE 25/10/1999) with ESMTP id LAA14286; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 11:58:54 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from bouche@localhost) by mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr (8.7.6/8.6.9) id LAA27809; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 11:58:53 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 11:58:53 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <200006280958.LAA27809@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> From: Thierry Bouche To: Primoz Peterlin Cc: tex-fonts@csc-sun.math.utah.edu Subject: Re: CP1250-encoded Type 1 to {vf,tfm,fd} In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.22 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Concernant « CP1250-encoded Type 1 to {vf,tfm,fd} », Primoz Peterlin écrit : « » Hello, » » I am facing a task of preparing a set of Type 1 fonts for use with LaTeX. » Type 1 fonts -- PFB, AFM and PFM -- in question come from a CD that was » sold by URW in the Central Europe, and uses Microsoft codepage 1250 (plus » an odd dozen un-encoded characters) rather than Adobe Standard Encoding. » What I would like to have is a set of TFM, VF and FD files using T1 (Cork) » encoding. simply name them as if they were standard encoded (8a) and this should work OK with latinfamily. the first job of latinfamily is to reencode the fonts to 8r, the originally declared encoded doesn't matter much. Thierry Bouche, Grenoble. __ « Ils vivent pour vivre, et nous, hélas ! nous vivons pour savoir. » Charles Baudelaire, Paris. 10-Jul-2000 23:32:13-GMT,2658;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from june.cs.washington.edu (june.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.4]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA10928 for ; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 17:32:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from mackay@localhost) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/0.3j) id QAA38598; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 16:32:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mackay@june.cs.washington.edu) Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 16:32:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200007102332.QAA38598@june.cs.washington.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: june.cs.washington.edu: mackay set sender to mackay@june.cs.washington.edu using -f From: Pierre MacKay To: tex-fonts@csc-sun.math.utah.edu, TeXhax@tex.ac.uk, mackay@cs.washington.edu Cc: alain@u.washington.edu, blondell@u.washington.edu, cconnors@u.washington.edu, dph@u.washington.edu, jjc@u.washington.edu, lbliquez@u.washington.edu, mackay@cs.washington.edu, mbuchan@u.washington.edu.mlangdon@u.washington.edu, mrh@u.washington.edu, shinds@u.washington.edu, dmachle@u.washington.edu Subject: upgrade of ibycus4 Greek Polytonic font After a year of reasonably favorable comments, I have decided to include the unhinted type1 font IbycusHTG-Regular in the basic ibycus4 package. I have also made all the small changes that have been suggested to me over the past year. Ibycus4 is, as before, wrapped up in a SysV package (sorry, but it's what I know) in either ibycus4.tgz or ibycus4.zip. The significant changes are in the TFMs (all of them---there was an error in one ligature) the VFs, the PFA, PFB and AFM files, Uibycus.fd and psibycus.RME. You may find it useful to know that the XHEIGHT in Adobe EM/1000 units is 430 taken from the top of the tau, the CAPHEIGHT is 680 and the rather notional Ascender is 700 (there aren't many good places to measure an ascender in a traditional Greek font.) Owing to the use of iota subscript, etc., the concept of a Descender value is pretty meaningless, but it is there in the AFM. To the Happy Few: if the letters TLG mean something to you, take a look at: http://www.ucd.ie/~classics/heslin/diogenes I have installed it, and my colleagues are green with envy. End to end search of TLG version E (3692 text files) in 2:30 minutes on a 170MHz Cycle5 Sparc 5 clone. Diogenes works equally well on version E and D of the disk. -- Email: mackay@cs.washington.edu Pierre A. MacKay Smail: Department of Classics Emeritus Druid for 218 Denny Hall, Box 353110 Unix-flavored TeX University of Washington Seattle, WA 98195 (206) 543-2268 (Message recorder) 29-Jul-2000 23:50:24-GMT,4340;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tsukuba.m17n.org (root@tsukuba.m17n.org [192.47.44.130]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA28830 for ; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 17:50:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from fs.m17n.org (root@fs.m17n.org [192.47.44.2]) by tsukuba.m17n.org (8.9.3/3.7W-19991231100513) with ESMTP id IAA02146; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 08:50:14 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from werner@m17n.org) Received: from rigel.univie.ac.at (root@dhcp29.m17n.org [192.47.44.69]) by fs.m17n.org (8.9.3/3.7W-19990906215257) with ESMTP id IAA10627; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 08:50:13 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost (sx0005@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rigel.univie.ac.at (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA03425; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 01:50:11 +0200 Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 01:50:10 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <20000730.015010.71574947.sx0005@gnu.org> To: tex-fonts@csc-sun.math.utah.edu, fontinst@cogs.susx.ac.uk Subject: problem with Thai font From: Werner LEMBERG Reply-To: Werner LEMBERG X-Mailer: Mew version 1.95b43 on Emacs 20.6 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear font experts, I'm trying to create an intelligent Thai encoding for TeX which uses ligatures. This is not a trivial task -- I've already written a file `thai.enc' intended for use with afm2tfm which is 43kByte large and contains 486 LIGKERN commands (either `|=:>' or `=:|>'). Unfortunately, afm2tfm fails. It makes assumptions on the encoding vectors which I haven't forseen, and which are finally fatal. Older PS and TTF Thai fonts often use Adobe's Standard Encoding glyph names for Thai glyphs so that the US version of Windows 3.1 (together with US Adobe Type manager) accepts it. Now we have the Adobe Glyph List, and I have prepared the encoding file accordingly to use correct glyph names. Example: /AE => /uni0E26 % THAI CHARACTER LU It is written in the dvips info file: The Afm2tfm program creates the TFM and VF files for the virtual font corresponding to a PostScript font by "reencoding" the PostScript font. Afm2tfm generates these files from two encodings: one for TeX and one for PostScript. The TeX encoding is used to map character numbers to character names while the PostScript encoding is used to map each character name to a possibly different number. In combination, you can get access to any character of a PostScript font at any position for TeX typesetting. What I haven't known before is that the set of glyph names must be identical for the TeX encoding and the PostScript encoding (maybe the word `reencoding' implies that, but this statement is lacking). This assumption is probably useful for error checking, but in my case it is very inconvenient since I have to accomodate the large set of LIGKERN commands to the incorrect glyph names in the old font. Since TeX only uses glyph indices, and the PostScript encoding vector is completely independent from the TeX encoding vector (which is only used for writing the VF file), using two different glyph name sets doesn't harm. While replacing glyph names is doable (with e.g. a small script), it has a fatal consequence. Thai ligatures can be easily handled (in about 40 lines or so) if you can group glyphs into classes with similar properties, and if you have context patterns of length 3 -- I should use Omega :-). As you know, TeX only has patterns of length 2, and afm2tfm provides no direct interface to TeX's grouping mechanism in ligature programs (which thus increases the number of rules by a factor of approx. 10.). Inspite of TeX's short patterns the problem can be solved by introducing an additional `alias group', i.e., a group of glyphs which are identical to the glyphs in the original group but have different glyph indices. With other words, I need that the PostScript encoding vector puts glyph `/foo' twice at positions x and y, and my TeX encoding vector then accesses glyph index x as `/bar' and glyph index y as `/bar1'. But due to the reasons explained above this fails. Is there any clean solution to this? What about fontinst? Does it provide a similar restriction? Or is the only solution to either hack afm2tfm or to write the VPL file manually? Werner 31-Jul-2000 15:54:42-GMT,1527;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA11346 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 09:54:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from relay20.smtp.psi.net (relay20.smtp.psi.net [38.8.20.2]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA17484 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 10:49:44 -0400 Received: from [38.32.115.146] (helo=nbgeorge) by relay20.smtp.psi.net with smtp (Exim 3.13 #3) id 13JHtl-0006yD-00 for tex-fonts@tug.org; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 11:54:38 -0400 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000730225756.007e9790@pop.tiac.net> X-Sender: georges@pop.tiac.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 22:57:56 -0400 To: tex-fonts@tug.org From: "George A. Stewart" Subject: TexLive4 CD Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I purchased the Lucida Bright + Lucida New Math package from YandY. I am attempting to use the fonts with the Web2C package on the TeXLive 4 CD. I found the following map file: ../TeX/texmf/fontname/yandy.map This file contains three columns of information: ... hlcbot8a LucidaTypewriterBoldOblique lbtbo ... etc. The third column corresponds to the file name that was provided by yandy for the pfb and tfm files. I suppose the first column is the name that the Web2C wants to use. How do I tell TeX to use this map file? Thanks for your help. George A. Stewart TUG member 31-Jul-2000 16:06:24-GMT,1698;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA11710 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 10:06:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from dolomite.mint.net (dolomite.mint.net [216.227.128.33]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA17521 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 11:01:17 -0400 Received: from PINGA (northconway-ppp-591.landmarknet.net [63.75.120.89]) by dolomite.mint.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA08788; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 12:05:52 -0400 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20000731120558.01f97410@ai.mit.edu> X-Sender: bkph@ai.mit.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 12:06:55 -0400 To: "George A. Stewart" , tex-fonts@tug.org From: "Berthold K.P. Horn" Subject: Re: TexLive4 CD Cc: support@yandy.com In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20000730225756.007e9790@pop.tiac.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" At 22:57 2000-07-30 -0400, George A. Stewart wrote:

I purchased the Lucida Bright + Lucida New Math package from YandY...

I have passed your question on to Y&Y technical support
mailto:support@yandy.com  They will reply to you.

Regards, Berthold.

--
Berthold K.P. Horn mailto:bkph@ai.mit.edu http://www.ai.mit.edu/people/bkph (NC) 31-Jul-2000 18:56:22-GMT,1509;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA17414 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 12:56:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail2.ox.ac.uk [163.1.2.1]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA17772 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 13:51:24 -0400 Received: from ermine.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.13]) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 13JKjU-0006mb-00; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 19:56:12 +0100 Received: from max90.public.ox.ac.uk ([192.76.27.90] helo=spqr2.oucs.ox.ac.uk ident=rahtz) by ermine.ox.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 13JKjT-0000Ma-00; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 19:56:12 +0100 X-Mailer: 21.1 (patch 8) "Bryce Canyon" XEmacs Lucid (via feedmail 8 Q); VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 8) "Bryce Canyon" XEmacs Lucid From: "Sebastian Rahtz" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14725.51230.581014.170215@spqr2.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 19:40:30 +0100 (BST) To: bkph@ai.mit.edu Cc: tex-fonts@tug.org, support@yandy.com Subject: Re: TexLive4 CD In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20000731120558.01f97410@ai.mit.edu> References: <3.0.6.32.20000730225756.007e9790@pop.tiac.net> <4.2.2.20000731120558.01f97410@ai.mit.edu> Berthold, you really must stop sending email messages written in HTML, its just *so* uncool... sebastian 31-Jul-2000 18:56:17-GMT,1958;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA17408 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 12:56:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail1.ox.ac.uk [129.67.1.1]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA17769 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 13:51:19 -0400 Received: from ermine.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.13]) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #3) id 13JKjP-00022W-00; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 19:56:07 +0100 Received: from max90.public.ox.ac.uk ([192.76.27.90] helo=spqr2.oucs.ox.ac.uk ident=rahtz) by ermine.ox.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 13JKjO-0000e6-00; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 19:56:06 +0100 X-Mailer: 21.1 (patch 8) "Bryce Canyon" XEmacs Lucid (via feedmail 8 Q); VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 8) "Bryce Canyon" XEmacs Lucid From: "Sebastian Rahtz" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14725.51157.346319.329431@spqr2.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 19:39:17 +0100 (BST) To: georges@tiac.net Cc: tex-fonts@tug.org Subject: Re: TexLive4 CD In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20000730225756.007e9790@pop.tiac.net> References: <3.0.6.32.20000730225756.007e9790@pop.tiac.net> George A. Stewart writes: > I found the following map file: > > ../TeX/texmf/fontname/yandy.map > > This file contains three columns of information: > > ... > hlcbot8a LucidaTypewriterBoldOblique lbtbo > ... > > etc. > > The third column corresponds to the file name that was provided by yandy > for the pfb and tfm files. I suppose the first column is the name that the > Web2C wants to use. > > How do I tell TeX to use this map file? you dont need to tell *TeX* anything. its dvips that needs to know. edit its config.ps and add a line p +yandy.map sebastian 31-Jul-2000 19:20:33-GMT,1847;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA18198 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 13:20:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from dolomite.mint.net (dolomite.mint.net [216.227.128.33]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA17804 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 14:15:35 -0400 Received: from PINGA (northconway-ppp-115.landmarknet.net [63.75.118.120]) by dolomite.mint.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA22558; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 15:19:55 -0400 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20000731151859.027286f0@pop.tiac.net> X-Sender: yandy@pop.tiac.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 15:20:57 -0400 To: "Sebastian Rahtz" , bkph@ai.mit.edu From: Y&Y Support Subject: Re: TexLive4 CD Cc: tex-fonts@tug.org In-Reply-To: <14725.51230.581014.170215@spqr2.oucs.ox.ac.uk> References: <4.2.2.20000731120558.01f97410@ai.mit.edu> <3.0.6.32.20000730225756.007e9790@pop.tiac.net> <4.2.2.20000731120558.01f97410@ai.mit.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 19:40 2000-07-31 +0100, Sebastian Rahtz wrote: Berthold, you really must stop sending email messages written in HTML, its just *so* uncool... ======================================================== Oops, sorry. I send maybe a few dozen email messages each day and the only ones I have to remember to send plain ASCII are to died-in-the-wool Unix people :-). So my default setting is to send "styled" email and I sometimes forget to turn this off when responding to about three places that don't seem to like this...less than 1% of my outgoing email. -- Y&Y Support mailto:support@YandY.com http://www.YandY.com/unique.htm (PG) 31-Jul-2000 19:20:44-GMT,1847;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA18202 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 13:20:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from dolomite.mint.net (dolomite.mint.net [216.227.128.33]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA17807 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 14:15:45 -0400 Received: from PINGA (northconway-ppp-115.landmarknet.net [63.75.118.120]) by dolomite.mint.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA22696; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 15:20:13 -0400 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20000731151859.027286f0@pop.tiac.net> X-Sender: yandy@pop.tiac.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 15:20:57 -0400 To: "Sebastian Rahtz" , bkph@ai.mit.edu From: Y&Y Support Subject: Re: TexLive4 CD Cc: tex-fonts@tug.org In-Reply-To: <14725.51230.581014.170215@spqr2.oucs.ox.ac.uk> References: <4.2.2.20000731120558.01f97410@ai.mit.edu> <3.0.6.32.20000730225756.007e9790@pop.tiac.net> <4.2.2.20000731120558.01f97410@ai.mit.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 19:40 2000-07-31 +0100, Sebastian Rahtz wrote: Berthold, you really must stop sending email messages written in HTML, its just *so* uncool... ======================================================== Oops, sorry. I send maybe a few dozen email messages each day and the only ones I have to remember to send plain ASCII are to died-in-the-wool Unix people :-). So my default setting is to send "styled" email and I sometimes forget to turn this off when responding to about three places that don't seem to like this...less than 1% of my outgoing email. -- Y&Y Support mailto:support@YandY.com http://www.YandY.com/unique.htm (PG) 31-Jul-2000 19:25:07-GMT,2101;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA18382 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 13:25:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail4.ox.ac.uk [163.1.2.33]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA17824 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 14:20:09 -0400 Received: from ermine.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.13]) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 13JLB2-0006QG-00; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 20:24:40 +0100 Received: from max63.public.ox.ac.uk ([192.76.27.63] helo=spqr2.oucs.ox.ac.uk ident=rahtz) by ermine.ox.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 13JLB1-0007Cp-00; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 20:24:40 +0100 X-Mailer: 21.1 (patch 8) "Bryce Canyon" XEmacs Lucid (via feedmail 8 I); VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 8) "Bryce Canyon" XEmacs Lucid From: "Sebastian Rahtz" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14725.54177.114189.6257@spqr2.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 20:29:37 +0100 (BST) To: support@YandY.com Cc: bkph@ai.mit.edu, tex-fonts@tug.org Subject: Re: TexLive4 CD In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20000731151859.027286f0@pop.tiac.net> References: <4.2.2.20000731120558.01f97410@ai.mit.edu> <3.0.6.32.20000730225756.007e9790@pop.tiac.net> <4.2.2.20000731151859.027286f0@pop.tiac.net> Y&Y Support writes: > Oops, sorry. I send maybe a few dozen email messages each day and the only > ones I have to remember to send plain ASCII are to died-in-the-wool > Unix people :-). So my default setting is to send "styled" email and I > sometimes forget to turn this off when responding to about three places that > don't seem to like this...less than 1% of my outgoing email. It isn't a Unix issue. Its email-reading software thats the issue, not dependant on the operating system why not use the standard that is there, MIME, if you want to send non-ASCII material? [1] Sebastian [1] waiting to be told that it *was* mime-encoded... 3-Aug-2000 18:16:33-GMT,3038;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from knatte.tninet.se (knatte.tninet.se [195.100.94.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA25081 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 12:16:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 7102 invoked from network); 3 Aug 2000 20:16:20 +0200 Received: from sheridan.tninet.se (HELO algonet.se) (195.100.94.102) by knatte.tninet.se with SMTP; 3 Aug 2000 20:16:20 +0200 Received: from [195.163.227.94] (sdu94-227.ppp.algonet.se [195.163.227.94]) by sheridan.tninet.se (BLUETAIL Mail Robustifier 2.2.1) with ESMTP id 359461.326579.965sheridan-s2 ; Thu, 03 Aug 2000 20:16:19 +0200 X-Sender: lars@abel.math.umu.se Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20000730.015010.71574947.sx0005@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 21:00:47 +0200 To: Werner LEMBERG From: Lars =?iso-8859-1?Q?Hellstr=F6m?= Subject: Re: problem with Thai font Cc: tex-fonts@csc-sun.math.utah.edu, fontinst@cogs.susx.ac.uk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by csc-sun.math.utah.edu id MAA25083 At 01.50 +0200 0-07-30, Werner LEMBERG wrote: >Dear font experts, > > >I'm trying to create an intelligent Thai encoding for TeX which uses >ligatures. This is not a trivial task -- I've already written a file >`thai.enc' intended for use with afm2tfm which is 43kByte large and >contains 486 LIGKERN commands (either `|=:>' or `=:|>'). > [snip] > >Inspite of TeX's short patterns the problem can be solved by >introducing an additional `alias group', i.e., a group of glyphs which >are identical to the glyphs in the original group but have different >glyph indices. With other words, I need that the PostScript encoding >vector puts glyph `/foo' twice at positions x and y, and my TeX >encoding vector then accesses glyph index x as `/bar' and glyph >index y as `/bar1'. But due to the reasons explained above this >fails. > >Is there any clean solution to this? What about fontinst? Does it >provide a similar restriction? Or is the only solution to either hack >afm2tfm or to write the VPL file manually? There are no such mapping restrictions (you can put a glyph in as many slots as you want) in fontinst v1.9, and it also provides a mechanism for renaming glyphs. fontinst v1.8 (and before) has a bug which may be a problem for you: although you can put a glyph in as many slots as you like, fontinst will only remember that it has been put in one of these slots when it is writing the ligkern program for another slot. This means that a \ligature{LIG}{bar}{baz} might merely generate a LIG D x D z for the bar in slot x, although it should also have generated a LIG D y D z for the bar in slot y. It is possible to work around this bug by declaring the same glyph under several names, e.g. \setglyph{bar1} \glyph{bar}{1000} \endsetglyph but the bug is fixed in fontinst v1.9. Lars Hellström 8-Aug-2000 14:04:09-GMT,3314;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA15829 for ; Tue, 8 Aug 2000 08:04:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from inec.kiev.ua (root@inec.kiev.ua [194.44.4.65]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA31147 for ; Tue, 8 Aug 2000 08:58:08 -0400 Received: from g-auto.pul.kiev.ua (xlgauto@inec3.inec.kiev.ua [194.44.4.78]) by inec.kiev.ua (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA18552 for ; Tue, 8 Aug 2000 16:58:21 +0300 (EEST) Received: from vik [192.168.0.80] by g-auto.pul.kiev.ua [127.0.0.1] with SMTP (MDaemon.v3.1.1.R) for ; Tue, 08 Aug 2000 16:50:44 +0300 Message-ID: <000801c0013f$895cc660$5000a8c0@vik> From: "Victor Mergel" To: Subject: help Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 16:49:56 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01C00158.AE77A3C0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-MDRcpt-To: tex-fonts@tug.org X-MDRemoteIP: 192.168.0.80 X-Return-Path: VIK@g-auto.pul.kiev.ua X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: tex-fonts@tug.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C00158.AE77A3C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear friends, I have got new computer in my office. I put Miktex i got from the Net = and now there are some error arose in my PhD thesis (before the change = of the computer it was no a single one).=20 Now there are 2 types of errors: 1. Overfull \hbox ...... 2. ! \textfont 7 is undefined (character ^). What should I do to correct it? Sincerely Yours, Victor Merg ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C00158.AE77A3C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear friends,
 
I have got new computer in my = office. I put=20 Miktex i got from the Net and now there are some error arose in my PhD = thesis=20 (before the change of the computer it was no a single one). =
Now there are 2 types of = errors:
1. Overfull \hbox = ......
2. ! \textfont 7 is undefined = (character=20 ^).
What should I do to correct = it?
 
Sincerely Yours,
          &nbs= p;      =20 Victor Merg
------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C00158.AE77A3C0-- 8-Aug-2000 16:34:44-GMT,1805;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA19444 for ; Tue, 8 Aug 2000 10:34:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail3.ox.ac.uk [129.67.1.180]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA31351 for ; Tue, 8 Aug 2000 11:29:13 -0400 Received: from ermine.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.13]) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 13MCKo-0004DE-00; Tue, 08 Aug 2000 17:34:35 +0100 Received: from max23.public.ox.ac.uk ([192.76.27.23] helo=spqr2.oucs.ox.ac.uk ident=rahtz) by ermine.ox.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 13MCKo-0002Vv-00; Tue, 08 Aug 2000 17:34:34 +0100 X-Mailer: 21.1 (patch 8) "Bryce Canyon" XEmacs Lucid (via feedmail 8 Q); VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 8) "Bryce Canyon" XEmacs Lucid From: "Sebastian Rahtz" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14736.13373.154234.569957@spqr2.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 17:24:29 +0100 (BST) To: tex-fonts@tug.org, VIK@g-auto.pul.kiev.ua Subject: Re: help In-Reply-To: <000801c0013f$895cc660$5000a8c0@vik> References: <000801c0013f$895cc660$5000a8c0@vik> > and now there are some error arose in my PhD thesis (before the change = > of the computer it was no a single one).=20 > Now there are 2 types of errors: > 1. Overfull \hbox ...... > 2. ! \textfont 7 is undefined (character ^). > What should I do to correct it? > Send a test file, and the log file, to a general TeX help group. tex-fonts is rather a specialized mailing list, and the chances that your problem is really font-related is very very small... Sebastian Rahtz 9-Aug-2000 8:51:44-GMT,152682;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA12952 for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 02:51:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from inec.kiev.ua (root@inec.kiev.ua [194.44.4.65]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA32281 for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 02:55:53 -0400 Received: from g-auto.pul.kiev.ua (xlgauto@inec3.inec.kiev.ua [194.44.4.78]) by inec.kiev.ua (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA03949; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 10:47:04 +0300 (EEST) Received: from vik [192.168.0.80] by g-auto.pul.kiev.ua [127.0.0.1] with SMTP (MDaemon.v3.1.1.R) for ; Wed, 09 Aug 2000 09:59:53 +0300 Message-ID: <000e01c001cf$50b0dc80$5000a8c0@vik> From: "Victor Mergel" To: "Sebastian Rahtz" , References: <000801c0013f$895cc660$5000a8c0@vik> <14736.13373.154234.569957@spqr2.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Subject: Re: help Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 09:59:07 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000B_01C001E8.755F6380" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-MDRcpt-To: tex-fonts@tug.org X-MDRemoteIP: 192.168.0.80 X-Return-Path: VIK@g-auto.pul.kiev.ua X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: sebastian.rahtz@computing-services.oxford.ac.uk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C001E8.755F6380 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear Sebastian, The main file is Disre.tex. Victor Mergel ----- Original Message ----- From: Sebastian Rahtz To: ; Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2000 7:24 PM Subject: Re: help > > and now there are some error arose in my PhD thesis (before the change = > > of the computer it was no a single one).=20 > > Now there are 2 types of errors: > > 1. Overfull \hbox ...... > > 2. ! \textfont 7 is undefined (character ^). > > What should I do to correct it? > > > > Send a test file, and the log file, to a general TeX help > group. tex-fonts is rather a specialized mailing list, and the > chances that your problem is really font-related is very very small... > > Sebastian Rahtz > > ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C001E8.755F6380 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="Disre.tex" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Disre.tex" \documentclass[12pt, a4paper]{report} \usepackage[cp1251]{inputenc} \usepackage[ukrainian, russian, english]{babel} \usepackage{graphicx} \usepackage{makeidx} \usepackage{multicol} \usepackage{showkeys} \usepackage{amsmath} \usepackage{amsfonts} \usepackage{amsthm} \renewcommand{\thesection}{\arabic{chapter}.\arabic{section}.} \renewcommand{\thesubsection}{\arabic{chapter}.\arabic{section}.\arabic{s= ubsection}.} \newcommand{\RC}{\mathcal R} 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=CD=E5=F5=E0=E9 =E2=E8=EA=EE=ED=F3=BA=F2=FC=F1=FF \eqref{leo11}. = =D2=EE=E4=B3 $$1-F(t)\leq (\ln t)^{-\alpha}\int\limits_t^\infty(\ln u)^\alpha\,dF(u),$$ =F2=EE=E1=F2=EE $$(1-F(t))(\ln t)^{\alpha}\leq \int\limits_t^\infty(\ln u)^\alpha\,dF(u),$$ =E7=E2=B3=E4=F1=E8 =EE=F2=F0=E8=EC=E0=BA=EC=EE $$\lim\limits_{t\rightarrow\infty}(1-F(t))(\ln t)^\alpha =3D0.$$ =CD=E5=F5=E0=E9 =F2=E5=EF=E5=F0 =E2=E8=EA=EE=ED=F3=BA=F2=FC=F1=FF = \eqref{leo12}. =D2=EE=E4=B3 =EF=F0=E8 =E4=EE=F1=F2=E0=F2=ED=FC=EE = =E2=E5=EB=E8=EA=E8=F5 $u$ =EC=E8 =EE=F2=F0=E8=EC=E0=BA=EC=EE: \begin{multline*} \alpha \int\limits_{\ln t}^t(\ln u)^{\alpha -1}u^{-1}(1-F(u))\,du\geq\\ \geq(1-F(t))\alpha \int\limits_{\ln t}^t(\ln u)^{\alpha -1}u^{-1}\,du=3D(1-F(t))\left[(\ln t)^\alpha -(\ln(\ln t))^\alpha\right]\geq\\ \geq(1-F(t))(\ln t)\frac \alpha2, \end{multline*} =E7=E2=B3=E4=F1=E8 $$\lim\limits_{t\rightarrow\infty}(1-F(t))(\ln = t)^\alpha =3D0.$$ =D2=E5=EF=E5=F0 =F9=EE=E1 =EE=F2=F0=E8=EC=E0=F2=E8 = =F2=E2=E5=F0=E4=E6=E5=ED=ED=FF =EB=E5=EC=E8 \ref{leo1} = =E4=EE=F1=F2=E0=F2=ED=FC=EE =EF=E5=F0=E5=E9=F2=E8 =E4=EE =E3=F0=E0=ED=E8=F6=B3 =EF=F0=E8 $t\rightarrow\infty$ =F3 = =F0=B3=E2=ED=EE=F1=F2=B3: $$\int\limits_1^t(\ln u)^\alpha\,dF(u)=3D\left.-(1-F(u))(\ln u)^{\alpha}\right|_1^t+\alpha \int\limits_1^t(\ln u)^{\alpha -1}u^{-1}(1-F(u))\,du.$$ \end{proof} \begin{proof}[{\bf =C4=EE=E2=E5=E4=E5=ED=ED=FF =EB=E5=EC=E8 \ref{leo2}}] =CD=E5=F5=E0=E9 =E2=E8=EA=EE=ED=F3=BA=F2=FC=F1=FF \eqref{leo21} =B3 = $00$ =B3 =EA=EE=ED=F1=F2=E0=ED=F2=E0 $c>0$ =F2=E0=EA=B3, =F9=EE \begin{equation}\label{umo3} E|\ln \xi _{N,x,k}|^{1+\varepsilon }0$ = =F2=E0=EA=E5, =F9=EE =E4=EB=FF =E2=F1=B3=F5 $N>N_0,$ $$ \frac{uB_k}{(N-1)}\leq S_N\leq \frac{uA_k}{(N-1)} $$ =E4=E5 $A_k=3D(f(x)+\delta )e^{\psi (k)},\,\,B_k=3D(f(x)-\delta )e^{\psi (k)},$ =B3 =E4=EB=FF $0\leq j\leq k-1$ =F2=E0 $N>N_0,$ = =EE=F2=F0=E8=EC=E0=BA=EC=EE \begin{multline} \int\limits_1^\infty (\ln u)^\varepsilon u^{-1} q_j(N,u)\,du \leq\\ \leq \int\limits_1^\infty (\ln u)^\varepsilon u^{-1}\left( N-1\right) ^j \left( \frac{u A_k }{(N-1)} \right)^j \, \left(1- \frac{u B_k }{(N-1)} \right)^{N-1-j}\,du. \end{multline} =D2=EE=E1=F2=EE \begin{multline} \lim\limits_{N\rightarrow \infty }\int\limits_1^\infty (\ln u)^\varepsilon u^{-1}q_j(N,u)\,du\leq \\ \leq A_k^j\int\limits_1^\infty (\ln u)^\varepsilon u^{j-1}e^{-B_ku}\,du\leq A_k^j\int\limits_1^\infty u^{\varepsilon+j-1}e^{-B_ku}\,du<\\< A_k^jB_k^{-(\varepsilon+j)}\Gamma(\varepsilon+j)<\infty, \end{multline} =F9=EE =E4=EE=E2=EE=E4=E8=F2=FC =F2=E5, =F9=EE $I_2<\infty $. =D2=E5=EF=E5=F0 =F0=EE=E7=E3=EB=FF=ED=E5=EC=EE =E4=EE=E4=E0=ED=EE=EA = $I_1$. =C2=F0=E0=F5=EE=E2=F3=FE=F7=E8 =F2=E5, =F9=EE $F_{N,x,k}(0)=3D0$ =E2=E8=EA=EE=F0=E8=F1=F2=E0=BA=EC=EE =EB=E5=EC=F3 \eqref{leo2} =F2=E0 = =EE=F2=F0=E8=EC=E0=BA=EC=EE \begin{multline} I_1=3D\int\limits_0^1(-\ln u)^{1+\varepsilon }\,dF_{N,x,k}(u)=3D\\=3D(1+\varepsilon )\int\limits_0^1(-\ln u)^\varepsilon u^{-1}\,dF_{N,x,k}(u)=3D\\=3D(1+\varepsilon )\int\limits_0^1(-\ln u)^\varepsilon u^{-1}\left[ 1-\sum\limits_{j=3D0}^{k-1}q_j(N,u)\right]\,du. \end{multline} =C2=E8=EA=EE=F0=E8=F1=F2=EE=E2=F3=FE=F7=E8 ${{N-1}\choose j}>(N-j)^j$ = =F2=E0 \eqref{umo4}, =EE=F2=F0=E8=EC=E0=BA=EC=EE, =F9=EE =B3=F1=ED=F3=BA $N_1$ =F2=E0 $\delta = _1>0,$ =F2=E0=EA=B3, =F9=EE =E4=EB=FF =E2=F1=B3=F5 $N>N_1$ =E2=E8=EA=EE=ED=F3=BA=F2=FC=F1=FF = $$S_N>\frac{A_{1k}u}{(N-1)},\quad 1-S_N>1-\frac{B_{1k}u}{(N-1)}, $$ =E4=E5 $A_{1k}=3D(f(x)-\delta _1)e^{\psi (k)},\,\,B_{1k}=3D(f(x)+\delta _1)e^{\psi (k)}.$ =D2=EE=E1=F2=EE \begin{multline} I_1\leq (1+\varepsilon )\int\limits_0^1\left(1-\sum\limits_{j=3D0}^{k-1}\frac{(N-j)^j}{(N-1)^j} A_{1k}^ju^j\left( 1-\frac{uB_{1k}}{(N-1)}\right)^{N-1-j}\right) u^{-1}( -\ln u) ^\varepsilon\,du<\\<(1+\varepsilon )\int\limits_0^1\left(1-\sum\limits_{j=3D0}^{k-1}\tilde{A}_{1k}^ju^j\exp \left\{u\tilde{B}_{1k}\right\}\right) u^{-1}( -\ln u) ^\varepsilon\,du =3D\\=3D(1+\varepsilon)\int\limits_0^\infty t^\varepsilon\left(1-\sum\limits_{j=3D0}^{k-1}\tilde{A}_{1k}^j\exp{-tj}\e= xp \left\{-\tilde{B}_{1k}e^{-t}\right\}\right)\,dt =3D:(1+\varepsilon )\int\limits_0^\infty h(t)\,dt, \end{multline} =E4=E5 $\tilde{A}_{1k}\:\tilde{B}_{1k}$-- =E4=E5=FF=EA=B3 = =E4=EE=E4=E0=F2=ED=B3 =EA=EE=ED=F1=F2=E0=ED=F2=E8. =CF=EE=EA=E0=E6=E5=EC=EE =F2=E5=EF=E5=F0, =F9=EE $h(t)=3Do(t^{-2}),$ = =EF=F0=E8 $t\rightarrow \infty.$ \begin{multline} \lim\limits_{t\rightarrow \infty}t^2h(t)=3D\lim\limits_{t\rightarrow \infty}t^{\varepsilon+2}\left(1-\sum\limits_{j=3D0}^{k-1}\tilde{A}_{1k}^j= \exp{-tj}\exp \left\{-\tilde{B}_{1k}e^{-t}\right\}\right)=3D\\=3D\lim\limits_{t\rightar= row \infty}\frac{-\sum\limits_{j=3D0}^k\tilde{A}_{1k}^j\exp\left\{-tj -\tilde{B}_{1k}e^{-t}\right\}(-j+\tilde{B}_{1k}e^{-t})} {-(\varepsilon+2)t^{-(\varepsilon+3)}}=3D\\=3D\lim\limits_{t\rightarrow \infty}\frac1{\varepsilon+2}\left(\tilde{B}_{1k}e^{-t}\exp \left\{-\tilde{B}_{1k}e^{-t}\right\}t^{(\varepsilon+3)}\right) +\\+\frac1{\varepsilon+2}\sum\limits_{j=3D1}^k\lim\limits_{t\rightarrow \infty}-j\tilde{A}_{1k}^j\exp\left\{-tj -\tilde{B}_{1k}e^{-t}\right\}t^{(\varepsilon+3)}+\\+\frac1{\varepsilon+2}= \sum\limits_{j=3D1}^k\lim\limits_{t\rightarrow \infty}\tilde{B}_{1k}e^{-t}\tilde{A}_{1k}^j\exp\left\{-tj -\tilde{B}_{1k}e^{-t}\right\}t^{(\varepsilon+3)}=3D0 \end{multline} =CE=F2=E6=E5 $\forall_{\varepsilon_2>0}\quad\exists_{A_2>0}\;:\;\forall_{t>A_2}\quad h(t)<\varepsilon_2t^{-2},$ =E0 =F2=EE=E4=B3 $$(1+\varepsilon )\int\limits_{A_2}^\infty h(t)\,dt<(1+\varepsilon )\int\limits_{A_2}^\infty \varepsilon_2t^{-2}\,dt=3D\frac{(1+\varepsilon)\varepsilon_2}{A_2}<\infty= .$$ =C7=E2=B3=E4=F1=E8 $I_1<\infty.$ =D2=E0=EA=E8=EC =F7=E8=ED=EE=EC =F0=B3=E2=ED=EE=F1=F2=B3 \eqref{umo3}, = \eqref{umo1}, \eqref{umo2} =E4=EE=E2=E5=E4=E5=ED=B3. =D9=EE=E1 =E7=E0=E2=E5=F0=F8=E8=F2=E8 =E4=EE=E2=E5=E4=E5=ED=ED=FF = =EB=E8=F8=E8=EB=EE=F1=FF =EF=EE=EA=E0=E7=E0=F2=E8, =F9=EE =EF=F0=E8 = $N\rightarrow \infty$ \begin{equation}\label{umo5} E\zeta _{i,k}=3D\int\limits_{\mathbb{R}^m}E(\zeta _{i,k}\,|\,X_i=3Dx)f(x)\,dx\rightarrow \int\limits_{\mathbb{R}^m}(-\ln f(x))f(x)\,dx \end{equation} =C7 =EB=E5=EC=E8 =D4=E0=F2=F3 =EE=F2=F0=E8=EC=E0=BA=EC=EE \begin{multline} \lim\limits_{N\rightarrow \infty }\sup \int\limits_{\mathbb{R}^m}|E(\zeta _{i,k}\,|\,X_i=3Dx)|^{1+\varepsilon}f(x)\,dx \leq \\ \leq \int\limits_{\mathbb{R}^m}|\lim\limits_{N\rightarrow \infty}\sup E(\zeta _{i,k}\,|\,X_i=3Dx)|^{1+\varepsilon }f(x)\,dx=3D\\ =3D\int\limits_{\mathbb{R}^m}|\ln f(x)|^{1+\varepsilon }f(x)\,dx<\infty \end{multline} (=EF=EE =F3=EC=EE=E2=B3 \eqref{asymeq}). =C7=E2=B3=E4=F1=E8, =E2=E8=EA=EE=F0=E8=F1=F2=EE=E2=F3=FE=F7=E8 = =EB=E5=EC=F3 \eqref{loeve} =EE=F2=F0=E8=EC=E0=BA=EC=EE \eqref{umo5}, =F9=EE =E7=E0=E2=E5=F0=F8=F3=BA =E4=EE=E2=E5=E4=E5=ED=ED=FF = =F2=E5=EE=F0=E5=EC=E8. \end{proof} \begin{proof}[{\bf =C4=EE=E2=E5=E4=E5=ED=ED=FF =F2=E5=EE=F0=E5=EC=E8 = \eqref{kons}}] =CD=E5=F5=E0=E9 $\zeta (z)=3D\sum\limits_{k=3D0}^\infty \frac 1{k^z},\,\,Re(z)>1$ =E4=E7=E5=F2=E0 =F4=F3=ED=EA=F6=B3=FF = =D0=B3=EC=E0=ED=E0 =F2=E0 $$ \zeta (z,v)=3D\sum\limits_{k=3D0}^\infty \frac 1{(v+k)^z},\,Re(z)>1,v\neq 0,-1,-2\dots- $$ =F3=E7=E0=E3=E0=EB=FC=ED=E5=ED=E0 =E4=E7=E5=F2=E0 = =F4=F3=ED=EA=F6=B3=FF =C3=F3=F0=E2=B3=F6=E0 (=E4=E8=E2., =ED=E0=EF=F0=E8=EA=EB=E0=E4 \cite{margu}), =F1=F2.52). =D2=EE=E4=B3 $\zeta (2,k-1)=3D\zeta (z)$. =CF=F0=E5=E4=F1=F2=E0=E2=E8=EC=EE $DH_{k,N}$ =F3 =E2=E8=E3=EB=FF=E4=B3 \begin{multline}\label{disp} DH_{k,N}=3D\left.\left[\sum\limits_{i=3D1}^ND\zeta_i+\sum\limits_{i\neq j}cov(\zeta_i,\zeta_j)\right]\right\slash N^2 =3D\\=3D\frac{D\zeta _{i,k}}N+2\frac{\sum\limits_{i0$ =B3 =EA=EE=ED=F1=F2=E0=ED=F2=E0 $c>0$ =F2=E0=EA=B3, =F9=EE \begin{equation}\label{kons5} E|\ln^2 \xi _{N,x,k}|^{1+\varepsilon }=3DE|\ln \xi _{N,x,k}|^{2+2\varepsilon }0$ = =F2=E0=EA=E5, =F9=EE =E4=EB=FF =E2=F1=B3=F5 $N>N_0,$ $$ \frac{uB_k}{(N-1)}\leq S_N\leq \frac{uA_k}{(N-1)} $$ =E4=E5 $A_k=3D(f(x)+\delta )e^{\psi (k)},\,\,B_k=3D(f(x)-\delta )e^{\psi (k)},$ =B3 =E4=EB=FF $0\leq j\leq k-1$ =F2=E0 $N>N_0,$ = =EE=F2=F0=E8=EC=E0=BA=EC=EE \begin{multline} \int\limits_1^\infty (\ln u)^{1+2\varepsilon} u^{-1} q_j(N,u)\,du \leq\\ \leq \int\limits_1^\infty (\ln u)^{1+2\varepsilon} u^{-1}\left( N-1\right) ^j \left( \frac{u A_k }{(N-1)} \right)^j \, \left(1-\frac{u B_k }{(N-1)} \right)^{N-1-j}\,du. \end{multline} =D2=EE=E1=F2=EE \begin{multline} \lim\limits_{N\rightarrow \infty }\int\limits_1^\infty (\ln u)^{1+2\varepsilon} u^{-1}q_j(N,u)\,du\leq \\ \leq A_k^j\int\limits_1^\infty (\ln u)^{1+2\varepsilon} u^{j-1}e^{-B_ku}\,du\leq A_k^j\int\limits_1^\infty u^{2\varepsilon+j}e^{-B_ku}\,du<\\< A_k^jB_k^{-(2\varepsilon+j+1)}\Gamma(2\varepsilon+j+1)<\infty, \end{multline} =F9=EE =E4=EE=E2=EE=E4=E8=F2=FC =F2=E5, =F9=EE $I_2<\infty $. =D2=E5=EF=E5=F0 =F0=EE=E7=E3=EB=FF=ED=E5=EC=EE =E4=EE=E4=E0=ED=EE=EA = $I_1$. =C2=F0=E0=F5=EE=E2=F3=FE=F7=E8 =F2=E5, =F9=EE $F_{N,x,k}(0)=3D0$ =E2=E8=EA=EE=F0=E8=F1=F2=E0=BA=EC=EE =EB=E5=EC=F3 \eqref{leo2} =F2=E0 = =EE=F2=F0=E8=EC=E0=BA=EC=EE \begin{multline} I_1=3D\int\limits_0^1(-\ln u)^{2+2\varepsilon }\,dF_{N,x,k}(u)=3D\\=3D(2+2\varepsilon )\int\limits_0^1(-\ln u)^{1+2\varepsilon} u^{-1}\,dF_{N,x,k}(u)=3D\\=3D(2+2\varepsilon )\int\limits_0^1(-\ln u)^{1+2\varepsilon} u^{-1}\left[ 1-\sum\limits_{j=3D0}^{k-1}q_j(N,u)\right]\,du. \end{multline} =C2=E8=EA=EE=F0=E8=F1=F2=EE=E2=F3=FE=F7=E8 ${{N-1}\choose j}>(N-j)^j$ = =F2=E0 \eqref{cons6}, =EE=F2=F0=E8=EC=E0=BA=EC=EE, =F9=EE =B3=F1=ED=F3=BA $N_1$ =F2=E0 $\delta = _1>0,$ =F2=E0=EA=B3, =F9=EE =E4=EB=FF =E2=F1=B3=F5 $N>N_1$ =E2=E8=EA=EE=ED=F3=BA=F2=FC=F1=FF = $$S_N>\frac{A_{1k}u}{(N-1)},\quad 1-S_N>1-\frac{B_{1k}u}{(N-1)}, $$ =E4=E5 $A_{1k}=3D(f(x)-\delta _1)e^{\psi (k)},\,\,B_{1k}=3D(f(x)+\delta _1)e^{\psi (k)}.$ =D2=EE=E1=F2=EE \begin{multline} I_1\leq \\ \leq(2+2\varepsilon )\int\limits_0^1\left(1-\sum\limits_{j=3D0}^{k-1}\frac{(N-j)^j}{(N-1)^j} A_{1k}^ju^j\left( 1-\frac{uB_{1k}}{(N-1)}\right)^{N-1-j}\right) u^{-1}( -\ln u) ^{1+2\varepsilon}\,du<\\<(2+2\varepsilon )\int\limits_0^1\left(1-\sum\limits_{j=3D0}^{k-1}\tilde{A}_{1k}^ju^j\exp \left\{u\tilde{B}_{1k}\right\}\right) u^{-1}( -\ln u) ^{1+2\varepsilon}\,du =3D\\=3D(2+2\varepsilon)\int\limits_0^\infty t^{1+2\varepsilon}\left(1-\sum\limits_{j=3D0}^{k-1}\tilde{A}_{1k}^j\exp{-= tj}\exp \left\{-\tilde{B}_{1k}e^{-t}\right\}\right)\,dt =3D:(2+2\varepsilon )\int\limits_0^\infty h(t)\,dt, \end{multline} =E4=E5 $\tilde{A}_{1k}\:\tilde{B}_{1k}$-- =E4=E5=FF=EA=B3 = =E4=EE=E4=E0=F2=ED=B3 =EA=EE=ED=F1=F2=E0=ED=F2=E8. =CF=EE=EA=E0=E6=E5=EC=EE =F2=E5=EF=E5=F0, =F9=EE $h(t)=3Do(t^{-2}),$ = =EF=F0=E8 $t\rightarrow \infty.$ \begin{multline} \lim\limits_{t\rightarrow \infty}t^2h(t)=3D\lim\limits_{t\rightarrow \infty}t^{3+2\varepsilon}\left(1-\sum\limits_{j=3D0}^{k-1}\tilde{A}_{1k}^= j\exp\{-tj\}\exp \left\{-\tilde{B}_{1k}e^{-t}\right\}\right)=3D\\=3D\lim\limits_{t\rightar= row \infty}\frac{-\sum\limits_{j=3D0}^k\tilde{A}_{1k}^j\exp\left\{-tj -\tilde{B}_{1k}e^{-t}\right\}(-j+\tilde{B}_{1k}e^{-t})} {-(3+2\varepsilon)t^{-(4+2\varepsilon)}}=3D\\=3D\lim\limits_{t\rightarrow= \infty}\frac1{3+2\varepsilon}\left(\tilde{B}_{1k}e^{-t}\exp \left\{-\tilde{B}_{1k}e^{-t}\right\}t^{(4+2\varepsilon)}\right) +\\+\frac1{3+2\varepsilon}\sum\limits_{j=3D1}^k\lim\limits_{t\rightarrow \infty}-j\tilde{A}_{1k}^j\exp\left\{-tj -\tilde{B}_{1k}e^{-t}\right\}t^{(4+2\varepsilon)}+\\+\frac1{3+2\varepsilo= n} \sum\limits_{j=3D1}^k\lim\limits_{t\rightarrow \infty}\tilde{B}_{1k}e^{-t}\tilde{A}_{1k}^j\exp\left\{-tj -\tilde{B}_{1k}e^{-t}\right\}t^{(4+2\varepsilon)}=3D0 \end{multline} =CE=F2=E6=E5 $\forall_{\varepsilon_2>0}\quad\exists_{A_2>0}\;:\;\forall_{t>A_2}\quad h(t)<\varepsilon_2t^{-2},$ =E0 =F2=EE=E4=B3 $$2(1+\varepsilon )\int\limits_{A_2}^\infty h(t)\,dt<2(1+\varepsilon )\int\limits_{A_2}^\infty \varepsilon_2t^{-2}\,dt=3D\frac{2(1+\varepsilon)\varepsilon_2}{A_2}<\inft= y.$$ =C7=E2=B3=E4=F1=E8 $I_1<\infty.$ =D2=E0=EA=E8=EC =F7=E8=ED=EE=EC =F0=B3=E2=ED=EE=F1=F2=B3 \eqref{kons5}, = \eqref{kons3}, \eqref{kons4} =E4=EE=E2=E5=E4=E5=ED=B3. =D2=E5=EF=E5=F0 =EF=EE=F2=F0=B3=E1=ED=EE =EF=EE=EA=E0=E7=E0=F2=E8, = =F9=EE =EF=F0=E8 $N\rightarrow \infty$ \begin{equation}\label{kons7} E\zeta_{i,k}^2=3D\int\limits_{\mathbb{R}^m}E(\zeta _{i,k}^2\,|\,X_i=3Dx)f(x)\,dx\rightarrow\zeta(2,k-1)+ \int\limits_{\mathbb{R}^m}(\ln f(x))^2f(x)\,dx \end{equation} =C7 =EB=E5=EC=E8 =D4=E0=F2=F3 =EE=F2=F0=E8=EC=E0=BA=EC=EE \begin{multline} \lim\limits_{N\rightarrow \infty }\sup \int\limits_{\mathbb{R}^m}|E(\zeta _{i,k}^2\,|\,X_i=3Dx)|^{1+\varepsilon}f(x)\,dx \leq \\ \leq \int\limits_{\mathbb{R}^m}|\lim\limits_{N\rightarrow \infty}\sup E(\zeta _{i,k}^2\,|\,X_i=3Dx)|^{1+\varepsilon }f(x)\,dx=3D\\ =3D\int\limits_{\mathbb{R}^m}|\ln f(x)|^{1+\varepsilon }f(x)\,dx<\infty \end{multline} (=EF=EE =F3=EC=EE=E2=B3 \eqref{asymeq}). =C7=E2=B3=E4=F1=E8, =E2=E8=EA=EE=F0=E8=F1=F2=EE=E2=F3=FE=F7=E8 = =EB=E5=EC=F3 \eqref{loeve} =EE=F2=F0=E8=EC=E0=BA=EC=EE \eqref{kons7}. =D2=E5=EF=E5=F0 =E2=E8=EA=EE=F0=E8=F1=F2=EE=E2=F3=FE=F7=E8 \eqref{kons7} = =F2=E0 =F2=E5=EE=F0=E5=EC=F3 \eqref{asym} =EE=F2=F0=E8=EC=E0=BA=EC=EE: $$ \lim\limits_{N\rightarrow \infty }D\zeta _{i,k}=3D\lim\limits_{N\rightarrow \infty }(E\zeta _{i,k}^2-(E\zeta _{i,k})^2)=3D\zeta (2,k-1)+I_1-H^2, $$ =E4=E5 $H$ = =E5=ED=F2=F0=EE=EF=B3=FF =F2=E0 $$ I_1=3D\int\limits_{\mathbb{R}^m}f(x)\ln ^2\left( f(x)\right)\, dx. $$ =D2=EE=E4=B3, =E2=E8=EA=EE=F0=E8=F1=F2=EE=E2=F3=FE=F7=E8 \eqref{konseq}, = =EE=F2=F0=E8=EC=E0=BA=EC=EE, =F9=EE =EF=E5=F0=F8=E8=E9 = =E4=EE=E4=E0=ED=EE=EA =E2 \eqref{disp} =EF=F0=FF=EC=F3=BA =E4=EE 0, =F2=EE=E1=F2=EE $$ \lim\limits_{N \rightarrow \infty } \frac{D\zeta _{i,k} }{N} =3D 0. $$ =D6=B3=EA=E0=E2=EE =E2=B3=E4=EC=B3=F2=E8=F2=E8, =F9=EE =F3 = =E3=E0=F3=F1=B3=E2=F1=FC=EA=EE=EC=F3 =E2=E8=EF=E0=E4=EA=F3 = $I_1-H^2=3D\frac{m }{2}$. =D2=E0=EA=E8=EC =F7=E8=ED=EE=EC =EB=E8=F8=E5 = =E7=E0=EB=E8=F8=E8=EB=EE=F1=FC =EF=EE=EA=E0=E7=E0=F2=E8, =F9=EE \begin{equation} Cov(\zeta _{i,k},\zeta _{j,k})=3DE\zeta _{i,k}\zeta _{j,k}-(E\zeta _{i,k})^2\rightarrow 0 \end{equation} =EF=F0=E8 $N\rightarrow \infty $. From separability theorem ,we know that there exist $N_0$ such that $x\neq y$ and $N>N_0$ $$ v(x,R_N(u))\cap v(y,R_N(w))=3D\emptyset $$ where $v(x,R_N(u))$ is defined in Theorem 1. Consequentely we obtain $$ P\{e^{\zeta _{i,k}}N_0)$. Similar to the proof of theorem1, we obtain $$ \lim_{N\rightarrow \infty }\Sigma _1=3De^{-\frac{uf(x)}{e^{-\psi (k)}}% }\sum_{m=3D0}^{k-1}\frac{(A_xu)^m}{m!}, $$ where $A_x=3Df(x)e^{\psi (k)},$ $$ \lim_{N\rightarrow \infty }\Sigma _2=3De^{-\frac{wf(y)}{e^{-\psi (k)}}% }\sum_{m=3D0}^{k-1}\frac{(A_yw)^m}{m!}, $$ where $A_y=3Df(y)e^{\psi (k)}$ and $$ \lim_{N\rightarrow \infty }\Sigma _3=3D\lim_{N\rightarrow \infty }\sum_{m=3D0}^{k-1}\sum_{l=3D0}^{k-1}[\frac{(N-2)^{l+m}}{l!m!}\left( = \frac{A_xu}{% N-1}\right) ^m\left( \frac{A_yw}{N-1}\right) ^l $$ $$ \exp \{-\frac{(uA_x+wA_y)(N-2-l-m)}{N-1}\}]=3D $$ $$ =3D\exp \left\{ -\frac{(wf(y)+uf(x))}{e^{-\psi (k)}}\right\} = \sum_{l=3D0}^{k-1}% \frac{(f(x)u)^le^{l\psi = (k)}}{l!}\sum_{m=3D0}^{k-1}\frac{(f(y)w)^me^{m\psi (k)}% }{m!}. $$ Therefore $$ \lim_{N\rightarrow \infty }P(e^{\zeta _{i,k}} patch level 1 Babel and hyphenation patterns for american, french, german, = ngerman, n ohyphenation, loaded. 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